shaky shaky the thing
Brandon learns about Irish Chinese food. Collin learns about flooring. Pip learns some news.
Changing the entire plan!
Great continuity
Irish Chinese food…
The spice bag
shaky shaky the thing
Collin and flooring saga
Random things I heard from 6th grade
Can you sharpen my pencil…abracadabra!
Pip discovers some news.
Haiku
Endless carpet rows
Two shades nearly the same cream
Still we stand, unsure
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SUMMARY KEYWORDS
weather, allergies, parent-teacher conferences, tornado drill, Chinese food, Irish Chinese food, McDonald's CEO, flooring, sensory sensitivity, wool carpet, Estella, Herbert, Clara, Magwitch, Jaggers, murder acquittal, housekeeper, child destruction, blackmail, Estella's mother, Pip, Miss Eversham, London, jury confusion, false witnesses, personal capacities, violent struggle, scratches, brambles.
SPEAKERS
Collin Funkhouser, Brandon
Collin Funkhouser 00:00
Hey. Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon and Collin on this week's show, shaky, shaky. The thing, Ahoy,
Brandon 00:19
ahoy. How's it going? Pretty good. How are you
Collin Funkhouser 00:23
Oh, it is. Well, I don't know if I'm ready. Look, this isn't gonna turn into the two guys talk about the weather podcast, but I'm not ready for the weather tomorrow. I mean, this
Brandon 00:35
has been two guys talking about the weather for a long time. This is a podcast set in the Midwest, Collin, that's just kind of how it is, right? If we don't talk about the weather, every once in a while, people will doubt that we actually live here. They'll start saying lies like Missouri's part of the South, which is, of course, untrue. So we can't have that, nope, right?
Collin Funkhouser 00:54
So I know, I know tomorrow the high, in case people are wondering, as we record this right now. The high is going to be 65 the low is negative one.
Brandon 01:06
Oh, you how you're going to be lower than me.
Collin Funkhouser 01:09
Now, that's, that's the that's the feel. The real feel is negative one. But yes, with the wind chill and everything involved, we go, I
Brandon 01:16
haven't looked at the windshield numbers. I just had like 17. So I mean, negative is not out of the question. But like, yes, yeah, I think our high Monday, like 30, yes, high next Friday, 80. So it is officially springtime misery.
Collin Funkhouser 01:39
It is. I'm very excited about this. Oh, man, to say the least, which means that my sinuses, my allergies, are pumped and ready for this tomorrow.
Brandon 01:51
No, you might not either. They're not great. I have the tingling in the nose, right? They're like, oh, oh, here comes the sinus drainage. I so great, that's gonna be something so, so I have my customary tea. So everything's fine. Everything will be fine, yes, although it will not be fine again, because this coming Friday is parent teacher conferences again. So, oh, we're still doing again, again. I don't know. I don't know who wants this, right? Oh, yeah, I don't really know who's asking for this. Nobody I talked to is asking for this, granted, that's like four people. So, like, the pool is not, but the half day with parent teacher conferences from like two to six is really not.
02:53
That's really not it, right? Like,
Brandon 02:57
that's really no good. I don't like that. That's a lot of Parent Teacher conferencing. That is a lot, and it's the spring one, the one that usually nobody comes to, like, because, like, by spring. Like, if I haven't called you already, like, it's fine, right, right? Like, by now, yeah. By now, we're, this is like, the end of third quarter, right? So, like, by now it's like, it's fine, right? Whatever. Like, if you haven't heard from me or like us in general, because we tend to like message, like, as a group, right? Like, oh, we're, you know, like, because if we say like we are having, it's like more gravitas than if you're like, I was wondering, right? Like, all of those parents and people like, they already know, so, like, nobody is going to be receiving like, brand new information at the third quarter, right? It's not really like, hey, shock your kid's like, failing, right? That would be weird. Like, you know what I mean. So, like, so I don't really know how many people to expect to come, and if nobody comes, I'm gonna try really hard to not fall asleep at my desk.
Collin Funkhouser 04:29
Oh no, just like sitting there for like hours and hours. So we'll see, I guess. Oh, and so again, how many hours is that? Again? Four. Oh, ish, right, yeah,
Brandon 04:47
right, because you know somebody's coming before two o'clock. It always happens, right? Like, no matter what the posted hours are, somebody will come before it starts. That's just like. The rules. It's like, how it works. The unwritten rules are, somebody will come
05:06
and be like, hey,
Collin Funkhouser 05:08
no matter. Yeah, it could be so there will be one person and, and that's kind of thing of like, one person a makes it all worth it, right? Because then you need to be there, but also disrupts everything
Brandon 05:22
next, like, I'm not ready, like, mentally or emotionally for this shenanigans, right? I have to have, like, 45 more minutes till people are supposed to be here and you're here. What's going on? Oh, no, nope. So we'll see how that goes. That's the big that's the big thing for this week. We're also supposed to have another drill on Monday, like we've been doing all the emergency drills right at school, you know. And we're supposed to have another tornado drill Monday. But if it's like five degrees, I don't know if that's going to happen, and that would be okay if we cancel it, because we already had one, and we did a good job. So we all got into the place in less than, in less time than we were supposed to be in there. So I really feel like, I really feel like we probably don't need to do it again. No, and it's really, I really don't want to do if it's gonna be five, like,
Collin Funkhouser 06:29
no, especially No, see, that's, but it's, it just changes, kind of like, the entire plan. Then, I don't know, like, it's, that's true, but we already did, like, two, so you know what's one more? Really, you know what? Right? Right? It's fine. It's fine. I don't
Brandon 06:52
know I was thinking this week I have a thought share with you right now. This comes way back, because we have constant, great continuity on the show, right? It's just what we do, right? We talked a few weeks ago about Chinese food, right, and how it is the savior of us. All right? Absolutely. Now I would like to just preface the following with this statement, right? I am aware that just saying Chinese food does not do justice to the probably hundreds of regional cuisines in China, right? I'm aware of this. Okay, I know that a blanket statement is not helpful, because a lot of stuff from like this, Szechuan and like other places, not the same, right? So like Hunan or whatever, those are gonna be different, okay? But I also need to know, I also need everyone should know that I am from southern Missouri. And southern Missouri style Chinese food is also kind of different, right? Like, every place in southern Missouri, basically, like, if you say Chinese food, there's going to be certain things on the menu, many of them not actually Chinese, right? I'm aware of this, right? Like, so, like that you get kind of stuck in this like, box, right, where you if you want, like, a certain type of Chinese food, you cannot get it in southern Missouri, right? Like, if you want, like, I don't know, like, certain things are not going to be found here, because that's just, like, a regional thing, and like, in Missouri, they're like, no alternative food is like this, at least in some taste. So if you're looking for like, dim sum, right, not gonna find that, right? If you're looking for like, certain types of, like, steam buns, not finding those anywhere. I've tried, I've looked, they don't exist, right? Like, not gonna be a thing, right? You're gonna get, like, orange chicken. Okay, there's right, however Tasty, tasty. So I know that I am a fan of, like, not actual Chinese food. Okay. Now I said all that to say I have discovered through the power of the Internet, what the Irish called Chinese food this week. Oh, and I don't really know how to process,
Collin Funkhouser 09:31
oh, no,
Brandon 09:33
okay, it's, I don't know what to do with this, like, information, and it's like, difficult for me to think about. Mostly it involves, well, I mean, here, this is just a screenshot of something. I'm just gonna say, I don't know, right? Look, I don't know. I just, like, took this random screenshot. Of us Google search for Irish Chinese food, and this is what pops up, right? It's just things like this. No, not what. What is happening? I don't know. Sent a picture.
Collin Funkhouser 10:10
There we go. I don't think I'm sitting down. And this is the Yeah. So what
Brandon 10:21
you're looking at here, near as I can figure, right, the most important part of Irish Chinese food is something called the spice bag, which appears to be chicken, some sort of fried chicken, spices of unknown origin, and french fries, aka chips, chips, right? And there's in a bag, and you just like them about and then you put them on the plate. And then what some of the things I saw, they just take every other thing and just put it like some fried rice, yep, on there. Little bit of noodle, yep, bam, on there, and then they just have some. They just refer to it as curry sauce. Oh, and they just sort of dump it over the top. This one appears to have like an egg roll or a spring roll, and those little other brown things are something called a chicken ball, which is apparently an Irish Chinese delicacy. I'm okay with that. That's what it is, right? And so I just don't know how to feel about this, right? Like it's, it
Collin Funkhouser 11:35
doesn't even look tasty.
Brandon 11:38
I mean, yeah, now, I mean, okay, first of all, let me, let me also preface this. Irish listeners, would I eat this if I was in Ireland? Yes, okay, I would give it a shot. Okay, I just need you know that I am open to the spice bag conversion, all right, but just seeing it for the first time is kind of appalling, right? Like, shockingly Brown, it is shockingly Brown, right? I know they're Irish, are not gonna like this, but it is giving very British vibes, okay, sorry, I'm sorry. It's a sore subject. But, like, it it, at least, I know, right? I heard I was watching a thing about it, and the guy did describe American food as at least looking vaguely Chinese, which, fair, like, it's definitely not like official, it's just, you know, it's vaguely of China, and I accept that, right? And so, because I love pretend Chinese food, I would be willing to give it a shot, but I was just so appalled by the myriad of things piled on top of each other, covered in curry sauce that I just didn't really know how to handle, like the chips and the rice and the noodles all simultaneously.
Collin Funkhouser 13:06
It's the it's the, yeah,
Brandon 13:10
do you need all of them? That's really, I mean, I feel like, just like chicken and chips with Currys like, I feel like that is fine, fine, right? I feel like rice and chicken and curry salt fine, like noodles and whatever, and curry salt fine. I don't know about all of them. Yeah, guys and and fries, yep, and, like a hint of vegetable. There's like a onion in there, right? Like a sliver of carrot,
Collin Funkhouser 13:43
just, you know, no vegetables in here at all.
Brandon 13:47
I mean, that's okay. I mean, as a person who loves cashew chicken, a made up Chinese food by a Chinese man, so, like, it's like, kind of Chinese by proxy, right? Like it's there's no vegetables in there, so I'm not, I'm not staying that all Chinese food must have vegetables. Obviously untrue, right? But like, it's just, I just was so appalled. I was shook, really, is what I was like. I was just, I did the internet decided to show me this this week, and I was looking at it going, I don't know how to process this.
Collin Funkhouser 14:30
And I think, well, the whole you're right, you're used to seeing certain things on you're used to seeing it visually. It's one thing re it's to me, it's always, Hey, I can't really tell the difference based off the description or even what you're calling this. I really need to see it. And, yeah, I've never seen anything like that. Yeah, life. And it's a, you know? It's interesting. It is
Brandon 14:53
a thing, right? It is a thing, right? Again, what? Should I be willing to eat this? Well, yes, of course, that's silly. So like I just need any before any Irish people out there get super offended by my comment, right? Know that I will, if I ever make it to Ireland, I will investigate this further, right? So I just know that put a pin in there for if that ever happens, which, who knows. But I just, upon just seeing it, I was so appalled. Also, how much salt is in there. That's really the, oh, don't know if my doctor would let me eat that, right? I think you're getting, like, your sodium level, honestly, crash the little monitor will, like, break, like,
Collin Funkhouser 15:46
you may be able to, you know, double up on meds.
Brandon 15:49
Maybe, maybe, yeah, that thing to extra hydrate before
Collin Funkhouser 15:54
and after, right? Oh, yeah, absolutely. I don't, you know, that's not really my cup of tea. But you know, different, different.
Brandon 16:04
Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. I just need to share that with you also. I just needed you to know that this existed.
Collin Funkhouser 16:11
I really look right that picture. I just can't get that out of my head. It's not
Brandon 16:15
just one, it's not just that one, right? There's other ones, right? We'll find a good we'll find a good spice bag. Put it maybe candidate for show notes here for you Collin, but like, just like random things in you know, you go, it's inspired by Chinese cuisine. Yes, is the most commonly sold Chinese takeaway in Ireland, there you go.
Collin Funkhouser 16:46
I when I think spice bag, my first thought went to boil bags like you get at a Cajun restaurant. Yeah, those, those are delicious. I do enjoy those. This thing, maybe not. Who knows?
Brandon 17:02
It's different. It is different. That is true. So like, I don't know. I don't know.
Collin Funkhouser 17:09
The option is there, should the occasion ever arise?
17:16
True? There you go. So I
Brandon 17:19
just, I just needed to share this with you as well. I just feel like you needed to know about needed to know about this for continuity sake again as well, because we have, you know, we are all about continuity here on the over the podcast. Would you like to wrap around and bring back random topics from before? You know, totally normal behavior. That's fine. I just needed you to see that so well. All right, that was my I
Collin Funkhouser 17:47
appreciate that. I appreciate that.
Brandon 17:53
In other restaurant news, have you seen the memes about the McDonald's CEO not eating the burger thing yet? Have you seen this?
Collin Funkhouser 17:59
And then, have I seen every other CEO or other other thing great shooting videos of them eating their own food?
18:06
I love it. It's so good.
Collin Funkhouser 18:08
Have I haven't eaten that, and I
Brandon 18:18
it's so good. It's so good. I can't believe they released that. I can't believe someone's like, yes, that is, this is the take we're going with. I know guys couldn't even, like, fake the bite, right? Like, cut to somebody else ate. And they're like, ego, you know, yeah, no, I couldn't pretend
Collin Funkhouser 18:50
seeing his reaction. And then he did, did, and then he released another video, and like, where he's didn't know, no, I'm I'm sorry. And of course, people were saying, like, yeah. You know, the former CEO used to eat have a burger in every single restaurant he ever went through, and then all this stuff. And, you know, it's, I, yeah, no, it's just it was not, I don't know who said, Hey buddy, here's, here's what you need to do for good PR, to help us. You, You of all people need to help us sell this new burger and this new thing that we're trying. Like, no, no, I don't care. No, I don't need to see you, the CEO, eating your burger. That's not, no, it's just bad. Bad. PR, people, come on, don't do that. It really
Brandon 19:41
is, it really is bad. I don't know. I don't know who approved this was like, Yes, this is what we're going with, right? We're gonna go and this take will be good. Like, who looked at that? It was like, Oh, this is good, right? Like, I that's the most what? The most distressing parts about all of this is it somebody looked at that and went, Oh yeah, that's the one absolutely keep it like,
Collin Funkhouser 20:13
so bad. Do it one more time? Just like,
20:17
one, yeah, really,
Collin Funkhouser 20:21
like, we're not even trying at this point. We're just gonna sweet, oh, you know what? We're being authentic. Brandon. We're being authentic online because that's what the people want. They want authentic. They don't want high, highly polished and produced and cut, fast cut montages. They just want an authentic single cut thing.
Brandon 20:41
It's all, I mean, that might be true, but like, I don't think this is what they meant by
Brandon 20:53
take a dainty bite of a burger and say words like, I don't even know how to hold it. Like, brother, what do you mean? You don't know how to hold it's a hamburger. It's like, it, I know it's named after a city in Germany, but like, this is like the American cuisine here, guys, you can't, you can't be telling me you've never eaten a hamburger before. Like, what? What are you doing? What are these lies? Okay with that? How did you how did you get a CEO that's never eaten a hamburger at a hamburger restaurant? I think that sentence really just defines everything that's wrong with modern McDonald's, though, right? Because we've talked about how they lost the plot and they don't really understand their job anymore. Apparently, it's because the CEO doesn't even eat hamburger.
Collin Funkhouser 21:44
No, no. He's trying to go after lattes and all sorts of stuff. Instead of that,
Brandon 21:50
market is oversaturated, you're not going to win in the latte market, right? The random drink thing? Okay, there's it just can't. There's not even a point in competing in random icy drink market because it is so saturated with 80 bazillion places, like everywhere you go, you can get some sort of weird icy drink thing, right? So you your cut of the margin is not going to be that big. I just give up, right? Don't even worry about it. You can have one in case somebody also wants it. But like, why are you not? You got to focus on, on the on the thing that brought you there, right? Can be serving janky french fries and not good burgers, because you want to be in the drink market that people like on Instagram, twirl it and then take a like, tiny drink out of it. Like, that's not what you can't make any money there. What are you doing? You have to shaky, shaky, shaky, right? The thing like, you're never going to compete in there. No one's going to be like, oh, man, yes, let's go there for that. Specifically, we can get it there when there's other things. But like, yeah, so again, we've lost the plot. It's all the inside of McDonald's is as brown as an Irish spice bag, right? It's just terrible. No whimsy, no fun. It's just there's no fry guys. Okay, I'm still this is my Hill. Okay, I'm dying on this hill, right? McDonald's started sucking as soon as the fry guys went away, yep, okay, as soon as all of the whimsy left and there was no more characters, they painted over all the murals. Right? Took away all the bright colors. Nope, no. Good anymore. Bad. Learn lessons.
Collin Funkhouser 24:01
Man, and that's, yeah,
Collin Funkhouser 24:10
we are of occasion to be redoing some flooring in our house, and I have been looking at swatches of carpet samples and kitchen samples until my eyes have bled.
Brandon 24:30
Oh, yeah. Doesn't take very long. How many shades of grayish brown Have you looked at?
Collin Funkhouser 24:39
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, like, I can't say like, every our house is, like, it's tan and white and the walls are a light blue upstairs, like, Oh, it did all the bedrooms upstairs light blue with white trim. And it's all kind of just like, light and nice and and, yeah, but all
Brandon 24:59
the flub. All the most popular floor colors I know are, like, weird, dark gray, brown,
Collin Funkhouser 25:05
yeah, so this, this is, this becomes an issue, because the high I don't like, like, I don't like dark flooring. I'm not, I'm sorry. I don't like, yeah, I don't like dark Ooh, here's it is I don't like dark carpet. This is what I learned
Brandon 25:23
about that's fair, okay, well, even dark flooring, right? It's very like you have a dog, yeah, a white dog, yes. So there you go. That's all you need to know.
Collin Funkhouser 25:37
Problem number one, our our current carpet is like a like, it's like a cream thing, tan, whatever, whatever. It's just all one solid color. And this is the other thing brand that I have, I have been introduced to of of you don't just have solid colors. Then they have like, two colors mixed in and make it speckled. And then they have a tri color, where it looks like there's like, pepper and stuff in there, and that's meant to add depth and hide stains. And I'm going, it just comes pre dirty, is what you're saying. And I
Brandon 26:12
don't I like that better than, like, solid color carpet, sure.
Collin Funkhouser 26:19
Now, pattern is something different than this, like, because it'll be like, Oh, this the base color in this is a very faint light sky blue. And then they'll add in flecks of white, and then flecks of, like, a dark gray black in there.
Brandon 26:35
And that's a little bit weird, yeah, right.
Collin Funkhouser 26:37
This is but so that's what they do. It's so I also learned about myself that, shockingly, texture of of the flooring is important. So not just the car, the plushness of the carpet, but so in our kitchen right now, we just have linoleum, sheet linoleum, yeah, whatever is vinyl. What I don't know what it's called vinyl, yeah, and it's fine. I don't really care. I live in an old house. It's 106 years old this year.
Brandon 27:08
And yeah, so the vinyl is a vibe, right? Yeah, final is a vibe. Also.
Collin Funkhouser 27:14
It's very practical, because I don't have even floors. So if you come in and you're like, Yo, I want flooring. They say, sweet. Here is hardwood. Here is blank, here is whatever, whatever. And I'm going, cool.
27:31
I don't flat. I don't have flat, right?
Brandon 27:34
Nothing is, can you not use the How about that rubberized stuff?
Collin Funkhouser 27:38
So that's where we're having to so we have that option of, it kind of looks like it's like a fake tile, yeah, right, yeah. Kind of like warp. You can, like, bend, it's Yeah. Now, however, where it bends is going to be determined on, like, how it's placed, because the the like, little ridge in our kitchen runs the lengthways of the kitchen, which is where they lay this kind of fake tile. And so if overlaps, and where
Brandon 28:10
it'll buckle on that, if it's like on a seam, it'll be, yes, I mean, I guess you could lay, you could just lay the opposite way, right? You cover the seam first and then work towards the thing. That will be a little annoying to cut all the end tiles, but, like, yes, you could do that just to make sure that you don't have a, like, the seam right on, like the buckle that separates comes off.
Collin Funkhouser 28:34
So the first thing, yeah, so what they're going to do is they're end up going to be doing some like, leveling and beveling and like, smoothing this out to, like, build up around the mound and like, slowly taper off towards the edges to make it go. This is what sounds like a lot of work and money. This is what you're this is to pay, yeah, that sounds like a lot of hours of labor. That's what I mean. Yes, I am thankful Our kitchen is not more square feet. That's all I'm going to
Brandon 29:04
say. I mean, that's true, yeah.
Collin Funkhouser 29:07
But they immediately then take you over and they show you all of the like, hardwood, fake, fake hardwood stuff. It's produced, and we're going through this, and they're talking about it. And I'm like, I already, like, I do our home does have the original hardwoods in it. I can't do hardwood anything,
Brandon 29:31
oh yeah, because it won't hold up. It won't look right, because there's real hardwood right there, right?
Collin Funkhouser 29:38
Literally touching, yeah, fake, like. And then there was this, oh yeah, no, you can't do that. Well, Hmm,
Brandon 29:47
let's see. Here's the vinyl flooring. Just roll it back out, cut, cut, done well.
Collin Funkhouser 29:56
And even then, with the vinyl flooring, all they have that. That if to make look like wood, and
Brandon 30:01
that reason want that most of it just looks like tile.
Collin Funkhouser 30:06
This is it? This. I want something that looks like it's supposed to be tile. I don't want but, and then they're like, oh, here, look at all this stone. It's like rough hewn stone. And no, I just want something that looks like garden path in my kitchen? Yeah? Why am I walking on gravel? No, thank you. I don't
Brandon 30:26
want that. No, listen, you have to go full blown whimsy. Then right, put in a well there, well, right, like a stone well with a bucket. Yeah, shrubbery, another matching shrubbery, but a slightly different height to get a three level effect, going down, yeah. And then you have
Brandon 30:52
some like foliage about right? I guess you go, it'd be done Narnia kitchen. There you go.
Collin Funkhouser 30:59
But what they do? So I am used to the old style vinyl and old style linoleum, things that are very slick. They're very slick and smooth. What they've done with the more modern ones is they've given them this texture on the surface to make them grippy and safer. But if you feel it with your hands, it's very unsettling to apparently what I have learned, both Megan and I highly like sensory sensitive people. It turns out
Brandon 31:32
about you, for sure, I could have told you that already,
Collin Funkhouser 31:38
the lady, the lady at the at the store that we've been going back to, and bless her heart, she shockingly after we've been working there, going back and forth. Now she's on vacation, so I think she's just trying to signal to us, like, please stop coming back. But I'm not, because she said, she said on the note, I'm not coming back until they pick a floor. And then she just left, you know what? Yeah, call me when they're done. At one point, she did say, so we're she said, so we're learning we have some OCD and sensory issues,
Brandon 32:12
right? Not learning? Yeah. No, exactly
Collin Funkhouser 32:17
this is yeah. We're learning. We're learning it applies to way more areas in our life than we thought
Brandon 32:22
it did well. I mean, also, like, you're not going to be like, walking around on your hands once you get it right, so it's going to be mostly a non issue. My only question is, how textured is it? Is it to the like, how difficult is to wipe off? That's the real question, right?
Collin Funkhouser 32:40
Like, imagine, imagine. Okay. So how do I Stephen, like, okay. So, you know those little things that you can get that are, like the 3d stickers, where, if you feel your the ridges on it, on your where, it's like, or like the hologram stickers where, oh yeah, it's like, rough, kind of really rough. Okay, it's not nearly that bad, okay, I'm gonna say it's more like the the nylon webbing of a new cars seat belt. So, nylon webbing, yes, okay, where it's like, you can tell it's manufactured, and it's just like, it's obviously
Brandon 33:27
fine. It's not a coarse texture.
Collin Funkhouser 33:30
Okay, there were some that were coarse, and my first thought was, how do you scrub this? Like, yes,
Brandon 33:36
like, that would be my, would be my only question, right? Is, like, how do you clean it? If you like, spill a bunch of stuff, because it's your kitchen and you spill things. I so lots. Noah, is there. And so this becomes your kids. You like to sometimes be like, Hey, we're gonna bake this thing surprise like, Oh no, Brandon.
Collin Funkhouser 34:04
Brandon, happy pie. Day I woke I came into my kitchen and I found that my the other three fourths of my family, baked nine mini pies. That's a lot of pies. Holy cow, many personal pies.
Brandon 34:23
I don't want to hear okay, there really are just they're all channeling their inner dad, right? They're like, oh, we need too many pies for a singular occasion.
Collin Funkhouser 34:34
Well, and then I was told that I needed to clean it up because they needed to make room for more.
Brandon 34:40
This was just the first batch of pies, so I had to come in. Is it doing calculating pie with pies like, what is happening right now? What is going on?
34:52
So anyway,
Collin Funkhouser 34:55
we are sick of flooring and what we've decided. Is a, like a Baltic stone, Oh, tile thing, because here's the here's the thing. My kitchen, the walls are like a very, very, very light seafoam, like it's very light. All the trim is white. My counter, my, my, my cabinets and all the drawers are white. My, my, my countertop is like a deep dark, like dark gray green. And so our current setup is, our flooring is actually like a dark green, which matches the countertop. I'm not changing the countertop, so I'm like, I have to have something that matches, and I don't want to go any lighter in here, because then it's gonna be, like, white floor, white walls, white trim, white cabinets. Like, it's a bit much,
35:52
people, there's a lot, yeah. So anyway,
Collin Funkhouser 35:56
all that to say is that we've been pestering people. And one guy who came out to do measuring and kind of start getting his quotes and stuff, was like, you know, was like, you know? He's like, Oh, he's like, I don't know. I don't understand. He's like, Oh, you know, is this You guys having fun, basically? And I'm like, no, no, I'm having because my floor needs to be replaced. It's ripping over there. This is not fun. This is utilitarian. Stop, stop. Dang.
Brandon 36:21
Way to shoot down the flooring guy, that's harsh, bro, sorry.
Collin Funkhouser 36:27
So yeah, my first thought was like, No, this is horrible, and I hate every aspect of this, yeah. But what came out was, oh, yeah, let's go anyway.
Brandon 36:36
Anyway. So good, you know,
Collin Funkhouser 36:40
stop asking me questions. Oh dear, yes. So the flooring saga continues.
36:49
That is quite the saga.
Collin Funkhouser 36:53
I actually had to tell Megan at one point when we were picking out carpet, for some reason the kitchen was easier for me to pick between. And I think it's because when all the carpet was the exact same, and I was just picking hues, and then as soon as you would turn in the light a different, oh, this is the other thing. All of the lighting above the displays of carpet is not human lighting like this is not the kind of lighting that you have in your home. I guarantee you, every single light bulb in your home is 38 and to 52% dimmer than what they have above this, so the color is completely off. So what I was having to do was, like, take these little samples, walk over into a far corner of the store and like, loom over them so I could actually see what these are going to look like. And it would be like, Oh, this carpets yellow. Why would I? Who would put in yellow? But when you look at under the bright light, it's like, oh, it looks kind of creamy, but oh no, this is just straight yellow. Anyway, I hit it. I told Megan, this is going to be the one time where we're, we're ultimately, I am not going to like anything that we look at ever, and we're just going to pick something that is close enough. And we have to move on, because, like, I there's going to be no perfect carpet. I will not be happy standing here. It's not going to be what I want. Because the other thing that was introduced to us, Brandon, was the technology of, well, people put different carpet on their stairs versus the rest of the floor. Why? And I went, why? Then they went, well, because in the bedrooms and the hallways, you want a plush carpet because it's nice and cushy underneath your feet in the on the stairs, you do not want a plush carpet because it shows where. So you want a tighter pile, basically more knit thing. And so people put a knit or tight pile, low pile on the stairs, and then the plusher carpet everywhere else, which means you have to match across piles, which I
Brandon 39:05
think I would just rather go tight pile everywhere. See, this is right, like, because, because the plush carpet, it wears down really fast, right? Like, it shows where really quick in any, like, in a hallway or, like, in, like, the entrance to, like, a bedroom, right? It's gonna show, like, really bad. So, like, you would want a tighter pile, just because it's more durable and it doesn't show wear near as much. In my opinion, it's just my opinion as me. But like, Yeah, but like, though, the bigger, more plush carpet it does, it wears out very quickly.
Collin Funkhouser 39:41
This is, this was a discussion. And also, like, do you get, like, a synthetic or a more natural one, and one wears better, but one's more stain resistant versus the other one, and all of
Brandon 39:53
a sudden you do have kids and a dog, I know, like, I really feel like staying and you, you are there. So a stain resistant. Stay resistant is like really high priority, right? You did just make a whole bunch of pies in your house. And you have a dog, and you are, you are about, right?
Collin Funkhouser 40:10
So eyes were made in my house. I had nothing to do with them.
Brandon 40:14
Yes, you were near, you were by. That's why I didn't say that you made them. I said that you your household. I should rephrase, your household just made pies of your children who are notoriously messy, and then you, me are the spiller of many things. And then you have a dog, yes?
Collin Funkhouser 40:35
So now it's they kept asking like, Well, what do you like best? And unfortunately, I'm going, No, I don't know, because I haven't garbage all of the options. I can tell you exactly what I don't like based off of what I have seen. So I just have to see a lot more variety, honestly,
Brandon 40:53
yeah, but you could say, like,
Collin Funkhouser 40:55
don't show me any more like, these four. So that's what else you got. That's ultimately what I ended up having to do, is basically say, I know I don't like this. This is not good. If it's close to this, this is not okay. And and then I also learned that carpets, when they're like, Oh, they're stain resistant. Speaking of, look, okay, chemicals are great, and they help with a lot of things, but I learned that when they add stain resistance to the carpets, which every manufacturer does to each individual thread, okay, I need you to conceptualize the amount of chemicals that are going into carpet ready. Each individual thread is dunked through an R 22 or whatever it is stain resistance thing. Then the whole thing is woven. Once the entire thing is woven, they dunk the entire roll in the same chemical. They let it come back up and and then they let it
Brandon 42:08
dry, and then make sure you get it all, you know you're missing.
Collin Funkhouser 42:12
And it makes me like, like, again. I'm sure these chemicals have been tested, and there's no possibility that they have any issues at all.
Brandon 42:22
Hmm. All. It's fine.
Collin Funkhouser 42:24
It makes me think very differently, of like, laying on a plush carpet and, like, you know, getting it all in your face.
Brandon 42:33
So what you're saying is, you're good. You're looking into wood floors and rugs, is what you're saying. Now you're gonna, like, everything.
Collin Funkhouser 42:44
Oh, well. And then the lady was like, she's like, Oh, well, if you don't want the chemicals we have, they make carpet out of out of wool, you can get wool carpets.
Brandon 42:59
Oh, oh, dear. I don't like the sound of the cost of that, even though wool is a naturally renewing resource, because it just is it sheeps. But like, Yep, I don't, I don't think I want to know the cost of wool carpeting.
Collin Funkhouser 43:17
Yeah. He was, like, tell me, like, let's, let's look at this. And so we actually, like, we're looking at it, because, like, I just want to see what those options were. And I started to really like it. Like, really like it. And then I checked the price. Yes, most carpet is between like, three to $4 a square foot, like most somewhere in there, you can get cheaper, whatever, but like three to $4 a square foot, fine wool carpet. You're you're you start at eight, and you go up to, like 15 or more per square Oh, dear. Oh, my, and, and listeners, you may be going, well, $8 that's fine. Okay, we're gonna take $8 times, right? Like, yeah. Like, let's say 900 square foot, if you have a living room, and if you have bedrooms, I'm not including a kitchen or a dining area or a bathroom. If a home is, you know, 1500 square feet, 900 maybe carpet, you're already just in carpet. You're looking at $7,200 and then you have installation on top of that, and then you have the pad, and like so quickly you're at like 12
44:48
carpet, no,
Collin Funkhouser 44:52
no, so pretty rough. I backed slowly away. I closed it and I went, No, not, not doing that.
Brandon 45:01
Yeah, it's pretty even
Collin Funkhouser 45:08
at like, $4 like, I have too much. What can I What? No, there's too much carpet in my life. I don't this is not good. Not good. She's a lot.
45:21
That's, oh, my, I know,
Collin Funkhouser 45:26
especially because, like, for, because, yeah, it's, it's typically, what they say is installation will run about half of the cost of the carpet. Yeah, right, like, so, or whatever. Like, it's fine, but like, you just whatever I I didn't like that, and I went, you know what? Maybe that yellowish carpet that looks kind of stained already, maybe that's what I mean.
Brandon 45:51
It's not so bad, is it like it's okay, it's fine.
Brandon 46:03
It's Bye, yeah, see,
Collin Funkhouser 46:09
totally fine. Oh, but you know, you know who wasn't fine, or
Brandon 46:15
that's true. Yeah, you know who's not fine at all. Wait, I have another segue. Oh, are you? Oh, sorry, it's okay. I do have, I was wondering if you wanted a sixth grade quote of the week, randomly, right?
Collin Funkhouser 46:32
Random thing I heard
Brandon 46:36
from six Yes. Okay, yeah. So you go. You go once again, ladies and gentlemen, we play the game where I say to Collin a random phrase that I've heard in 60 classroom with no context whatsoever, and then tell him the story behind it. Here we go, Collin, here we go, can you sharpen my pencil? Abracadabra, I
Collin Funkhouser 47:09
it Yes. Was this like, was this a feigned attempt to ask somebody like nicely, or were they trying to convince them to do something?
Brandon 47:18
No, they, they, they were just being all mouthy, right? And so this kid comes up and he's asking me if I would sharpen his because I have a handheld pencil sharpener at my desk, because the wall mounted one sucks, and the electric one that I have is terrible. So I unplugged it because it doesn't work, and it eats colored pencils anyway. So I was, I was sharpening them so they could, like, helping them sharpen pencils to do their project thing they're working on, right? And I'm sharpen it. And this kid comes up and he's like, Hey, we sharp my pencil. And they were like, Hey, you can't ask like somebody else was like, you have to say the magic word. And he just looks at me dead in the face, and goes, Abracadabra. This girl comes up right after that, and she goes, Can you sharpen my pencil? Abracadabra? It
Brandon 48:07
is a magic word. It was just so funny. It's just the delivery. He was just like, Abracadabra. You
Brandon 48:22
You know what is so ridiculous,
Collin Funkhouser 48:25
yes, so there you go. That is that is perfect,
Brandon 48:35
but not great, is our boy pimp here? Oh, doing all kinds of shenanigans. Well, let's see 46 right? 46 right? So, yeah, first off, 46 isn't too bad. We're not too bad. Yeah, I had
Collin Funkhouser 48:54
completely at some point, for some reason, and maybe it's because it's referenced more during these, these chapters and previously my brain. It finally clicked in my brain that he calls where he lives, the temple. Yes, it's like the courtyard thing, or whatever. Yeah, right, yeah, it's weird. And I was going, Well, is there? So I actually looked this up. Apparently, the inner temple was where all the barristers and all of the lawyers used to live and hang out together. Ah, it was like, it's one of the like, that was the place to be. It was. It's one of London's four historic Inns of Court where there was a professional association of barristers with origins dating back to the 14th century. Now I'm just reading off from this thing, and I was trying to decide, is that where he's actually living? Or was he trying to refer to his DOMA style as the temple, kind of like he refers to wimex, you know, the castle or whatever. Yeah, I because his place certainly isn't a temple. No, a temple to
50:18
like of solitude, right? Yeah, yeah.
Brandon 50:22
I don't really know. I don't know if Yeah, and this might be another thing where I'm missing some context from somewhere, but like, I'm not real sure. I just know that that's what he calls it. And then there's like, that's just what he refers to it as. And I don't know why, but yeah, that is weird. I don't it doesn't sound like, that's where he is, because it doesn't sound like, I just figured that was like the temple court or something. I was like, like, the address almost right, like, that's kind of how I was thinking about this.
Collin Funkhouser 50:52
Yeah, it is the it is a garden, it is a court, but it is an actual place called the Temple. And then there was, like, the inner temple. It was more supposed to be kind of a anyway, like it. I just I saw it. I was like, huh, this is very interesting of I, for some reason, my brain just finally latched on that today. And I was like, Oh, he's been calling it that a while, but now trying to see, is there more meaning behind this, or is he just referring it to it as the place that it is?
Brandon 51:25
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Collin Funkhouser 51:27
Yeah. Anyway, so that's because right off the bat, he says, turning from the temple gate as soon as I had read the morning. Anyway, he is, uh, he's off to the races here. Yeah.
Brandon 51:41
He's like, I don't remember where we go. He's, uh, their go to. He's on his way to Herbert's girlfriend's house, yes, right? And so he's going through the, like, shipbuilding part of London, right? A place where he doesn't normally traverse, and so he's, like, trying to figure out, like, where he is and like, he's just sort of taking in new sites, you know, like new places and new sites and smells and All of these things where he's like, he's going by the rope makers and these old holes, and they're oozing slime and dregs of tide in the yards of shipbuilders and ship breakers. What rusty anchors blindly biting into the ground through though for years off duty? What mountainous country have accumulated casks and timber. How many rope walks that were not the old green like, he's just, like, kind of taking it all in. Wow.
Collin Funkhouser 52:48
This is nothing totally different. And I did get the feeling like he was overwhelmed by it. I think it was more I think
Brandon 52:56
he's just sort of taking it in, yeah. Oh, this is new. I've never been over here, you know,
Collin Funkhouser 53:01
like almost in a refreshing sense, to him, to have something new and novel in his life, yes.
Brandon 53:08
But he goes to, it's Clara's house, right? Because this is Provis is in the upstairs room, right? And so he goes, Dad, right? Yeah, he's going to visit Herbert, you know, because Herbert's there, and then he's going to stop up and say they're going to check in on him, just kind of like, get delay, because this is where he's brought him, and he hasn't seen him since he brought him here, right? So he's, he's coming to see and he's just, he's very kind of think the House is very nautical as well, right? The dad is upstairs, carrying on all kinds of ways. Yeah, right. He's going all, all kinds of crazy, and, like, he, the big revelation here is that, like, at first, like he finally meets Clara, and he kind of is like, dang, yeah, this is a good person, right? Like this, like, she is an actual, genuine good person. And he's kind of like, taken aback by that. And he's also kind of like good job Herbert, like
Collin Funkhouser 54:45
might have passed for a captive fairy and and he loves how he loves watching how they interact, of how she's how Herbert is, is doting and kind of protective over her, how she's deferential and kind. Kind to him and how, like, they just, like, really compliment one another really well. During the simple interaction of of Herbert talking about, like, what's in this basket of food and and it doesn't, listening to it, you go, Oh, well, obviously the first instinct is going to be that's not a lot of food. That seems kind of simple, but, but PIP is more struck by how they're interacting this, this interaction as a whole between them and how wholesome and wonderful it is.
Brandon 55:30
I mean, this is the first like healthy relationship he's potentially ever seen, right? Like, thinking about it, like Joe and his sister, like his sister was all, like, demanding and, like, threw things at Joe all the time. And like, it was not, it's not, it's not like the worst, but it wasn't great, right? And then we see, like, we hear about, like, Miss havisham's relationship, we see, we've seen the pockets right in that whole fiasco, like the parents and then, like, Herbert and Claire are like, Oh, okay, okay, we kind of saw it's kind of that way with, like, Women in Miss skiffins, right? Right. They're also a pretty, like, chill, pretty good relationship. But like this one, for some reason, he's, like, very taken aback by this one, just like how they're interacting and how, like, at ease they are around each other, and just like how well they clearly want to be around each other.
Collin Funkhouser 56:36
Well, he's definitely estella's name does come up one time here, and I think that's also on his mind through this and watching them in that
Brandon 56:45
whose name is Estella, oh yes, yeah, of course, because her name always comes up every five seconds.
Collin Funkhouser 56:51
Sorry, yeah, she comes up kind of at the end here, where he's like, I thought about her, and I walked away quickly,
Brandon 56:57
yeah, because I was like, Oh yeah, that would because if you compare Herbert and like, Clara and then, like, imagine PIP and Estella. Like, there's no way it could
57:09
be that good, right? Like, yep.
Brandon 57:13
So he's really, he is kind of like, wow. Okay, dang, okay, wow. And after that, they go upstairs, and they have to go past the room of the father here, who is carrying on and muttering and looking at his telescope and doing stuff. And they get upstairs, river, basically, yeah, they get upstairs, and they meet with Provis out there, and they are sort of like plotting, what is the next step right? And they they're trying to figure out, like, how do they check in? But, like, not make it obvious that they're checking in, right? Yeah, and to make sure that everything is okay and if you need anything, or if, like, whatever. And so we come to the classic example, right? The old standby right throughout literary history, this is the thing that happens, right? They come up with a plan, not this, not the first part. They're going to signal by window shade, right? Then, if he, if it's like, at a certain like, halfway down. It means good to go, right? This is, this is classic stuff, right? Spy movies throughout the ages have used this. Apparently, Charles Dickens was aware of this. This is like a time honored spy craft, tool of moving the window shade to a certain position, messaging Premier. But the way that they're going to see the window is they're gonna be rowing down the river.
Collin Funkhouser 59:13
Good job Herbert, because they need to find a way to not draw basically. Herbert's like, Hey, how about, instead of putting Provost on a ship and getting more people involved, Pip, what if you and I just row him down the river and so yeah, in order to not draw suspension or attention, we just need to be rowing all the times. Yeah.
Brandon 59:35
He's basically like, yeah. If you row 50 times, no one will pay any attention to the 51st and he's got a point, right? If this becomes the regular habit, then, like, no one will pay any money. They'll be like, that's the really guy, yeah, whatever. Like, and so that's what they start doing to, like, help them figure that out, yeah, so that there won't. Be any more players in the thing, and then they can just do it. So they he's just like, alright, just gonna go buy a boat.
Collin Funkhouser 1:00:07
Now, yeah, he's gotta buy a boat, yeah.
Brandon 1:00:13
And that's what they do. He practices. They practice doing it.
Collin Funkhouser 1:00:17
Well, there is this phrase here where he says, again, this reflection of, not reflection of but his perception. And he's processing this Clara and Herbert. He says, When I had taken leave of the pretty, gentle, dark eyed girl and of the motherly woman who had not outlived her honest sympathy with a little affair of true love. I felt as if the old green copper rope walk had grown quite a different place. We on the way in. He's got this kind of overwhelm and awe, and maybe a little bit like a, I'm not sure about this. He said old barley might be as old as the hills, and might swear like a whole field of troopers, but there were redeeming youth and trust and hope enough in chinks basin to fill it to overflowing. And then I thought of Estella and of our party, and went
1:01:09
home very sadly, very sadly. That's fair, right, yes,
Brandon 1:01:18
but as they're practicing rowing, right? He has more thoughts about this kind of at the very end, right, where him and Herbert are talking about the tide, right? Because the river is very tidal here through London, right? So it's pulling back and forth. And he has this interesting remark where it's like, in short, I was always full of fears for the rash man who was in hiding, Herbert, had sometimes said to me that he found it pleasant to stand at one of our windows after dark, when the tide was running down, and to think that it was flowing with everything it bore towards Claire, but I thought with dread that it was flowing towards Magwitch, and any black Mark on its surface might be his pursuers going swiftly, silently and surely to take him.
Collin Funkhouser 1:02:09
So again, he's he's got this, not probably healthy level of paranoia, given what we know about certain things. It's often and he's just now on edge, and now he's seeing danger and everything around him. No matter where he goes. He can't simply enjoy the river going. And I think part of this is now PIP doesn't have, hey, guess what? He doesn't have any great expectations to look forward to anymore. Herbert can look at that window and watch the river, and is longing for this wonderful thing out there and this great thing Clara, right? He has this expectation of her, and now PIP has nothing. He just has, I gotta smuggle it.
Brandon 1:02:51
Yeah, random dude out of here, I guess.
Collin Funkhouser 1:02:55
Yeah, that's yes, that's pretty that's true.
Brandon 1:03:02
Chapter 47 I had to read a lot of this, like twice, because I was like, What on earth is happening?
Collin Funkhouser 1:03:09
Oh, I skimmed this very I tried
Brandon 1:03:13
and I went. I listened to this one again, too. I have no idea these are allusions to something that is completely lost on me. And when I was trying to look up some things about this, like it wasn't recommending these chapters for things that the book was alluding to, and I was like, What?
Collin Funkhouser 1:03:36
What is? What the heck. I have no idea, right?
Brandon 1:03:40
No idea either. So I don't know exactly what is going on. I'm sure that this means something, and then I it is just going over my head, right? Like, Oh, I am sure that people in 1850 understood what was happening, right? Oh, to a T. They understood, maybe not everybody, but, like, whatever, basically, well, Pip says, Sorry, go ahead.
Collin Funkhouser 1:04:09
No, as I said, we start off with PIP complaining about being broke and missing a Stella.
Brandon 1:04:14
So, yeah, you know. So, yeah, in order to distract himself, he decides to go to a play, right? He's gonna go to the theater, which is a plan for if you're dodging creditors. And do I so like he's talking about, is this Trevor? He's talking about, like, selling jewelry. Yes, he says, like, he doesn't want, he still doesn't want the money, because he gave the he gave the money back to
Collin Funkhouser 1:04:48
he told Herbert to take it back to
Brandon 1:04:50
pro, oh, to mag. Wish, yeah, the provost. So, like, he gave it back to him. He unopened, right? And so he, like, doesn't want any of that in there. And. So he is, like, trying to deal with this on his own for the first time in ever, really. So, like, that part's interesting, and he just needs a distraction, right? He needs to be distracted. And so he goes back to the theater with where wopsle was performing, right? He's still there too. He's still there and he sees some plays.
Collin Funkhouser 1:05:34
I don't understand anything here. I don't either.
Brandon 1:05:42
Yeah, it's, it's not a it's, it's like, the first one was Hamlet, right? And these are just like other plays, and basically they're not good, is kind of what we're getting that it's not, yeah, this is all like, very bad. It's not produced well, but it's talking about, like, the costuming is weird, right? And it's the plays are not great, right? And they're strange, and they go on and on and on about them. That part's not important, right? The important part is that in the middle of one of the performances, we also find out that he goes twice, right? We don't find out until the next chapter that those two instances were about a week apart, which is a weird place to put that information in the following chapter. But anyway, on the second performance, like there was like Mr. Wopsle sees him, right, I observed with great surprise that he devoted it to staring in my direction as if he were lost in amazement. There was something so remarkable in the increasing glare of Mr. Wopsles eye, and he seemed to be turning so many things over in his mind and to grow so confused that I could not make it out. I sat thinking of it a long after he had attended to the clouds and the large watch watch cases, and I still could not make it out right. And he so he's like, wattles, like staring at pip in the middle of this program, and has this really bemused look on his face. And PIP is like, what is he doing? Why are you? Why is he looking like that? But afterwards, he goes down and he talks to him, and we discover something, right? It was the strangest thing said wopsle drifting into his lost look again, and yet I could swear to him right. Becoming alarmed, I entreated Mr. Watt to explain his meaning, please. That's great, right? He was like, there was a he was like, were you not with him? And Pip was like, What are you talking about? And then he goes on and on and on and on and on. And basically, Mr. Wopsle relates to pip. He's like, hey, Pip, do you remember all those Christmases ago when you and I and Joe tredged out to the marches. Marches marched out to the marches, rather in search of the convicts with the officers. And he's like, yeah, and then he's like, he says something like, boy, do I ever but I didn't tell him that. And he was like, Do you remember the two that we came upon them? And he's like, Yeah. And he's like, I saw one of them was sitting behind you. And he's like, which one? And he was like, it was the one that was all beat up, and PIP is on, like, super, mega High Alert now, like alert, right? Because this means that compison was behind him, right, like a ghost, right? I cannot exaggerate the enhanced disquiet into which this conversation threw me, or the special and peculiar terror I felt that competence having been behind me like a ghost, for if he had ever been out of my thoughts for a few moments together, since the hiding had begun, it was in those very moments that he was closest to me and to think that I should be so unconscious and off my guard after all, my care was as if I had shut an avenue of 100 doors to keep him out, and then had found him at my elbow. Done so not only it, we had questioned before, a few chapters ago, if you. Was even still alive, right? Nobody really knew the answer to this question, but turns out the answer is probably yes. So Is he our mystery watcher? Right? We don't know. Has he been watching PIP this whole time? Surely, because this book is how it is. This cannot be a coincidence, because this book has no coincidences in it, really, except for PIP seeing Jaggers at havershams house that one time and making whole false assumptions about 800,000 things from that one thing. I guess that was a coincidence, technically, but everything else is like, oh yes, every character comes back, every character we see again. Okay, so what is up with this? Right? Holy cannoli, so this is, this is terrible. Yeah, Pip does not like this. And he he goes home, and he's just, like, waiting for Herbert. Like, just like, he's like, paranoid that's the foot falls on the stairs. Will not be Herbert, but it is, and it's fine. He's also there was, there's nothing to be done, saving to communicate to wimick what I had found out, right? And so they're just, it's still the waiting game, right? But now there's something worse, right? Boom, more. We must be more. And we were very cautious, indeed, more cautious than before, if that were possible. And I, for my part, never went near chinks basin, except when I rode by. And then I only looked at Mill Pond bank as I looked at everything else. So yeah, he's even more paranoid. Oh yeah, and I'm, like, high alert, right? And again, not necessarily unfoundedly,
Collin Funkhouser 1:12:12
nope, no, oh no, you're being stalked by somebody who you know has ill intent towards the person you are harboring, well,
Brandon 1:12:21
and potentially you right? Because you're an accomplice of that person, and he probably knows that, right? If he's been following that person, maybe he knows the pip in in cahoots with him. I don't know, right? I don't know. Very weird. So that is one shocking piece of information in this, these three chapters, however, the next potentially shocking piece of information is coming up right now. Holy cow. Fire all the revelations being made immediately, because, right, as in chat 48 you have anything to say about the chapter? No, it was very long and confusing, and I didn't know what was happening.
Collin Funkhouser 1:13:19
Took place
Brandon 1:13:21
the you. The he's on his way home right, strolling, trying to decide where to eat, right? He's just sort of like wandering about,
Collin Funkhouser 1:13:30
right? He just put his boat away, didn't he?
Brandon 1:13:33
Yeah, and he's just sort of strolling around. And he feels a hand upon his shoulder, and it is Mr. Jaggers hand, and he passed it through my arm as we're going in the same direction, Pip, we must walk together for Where are you bound? And he's like, home, I guess I don't know. He's like, don't you know? He's like, Well, I don't. Oh, he says, I returned, glad for once to get the better of him in cross examination. I do not know, for I have not made up my mind, you are going to die, and I suppose, no, maybe I don't know. Anyway, they have this, like very awkward conversation in which PIP will refuse to reveal to him, and he's thinking about dinner, and he's like, Jaggers is like, you should come eat with me. It'd be great. Whammy is coming. So I changed my excuse to an acceptance, and he walks with Jaggers to the office and hangs out there for a little bit, and then they go to the house, right? And we have, we're hanging out. We make, is there? But this is work we make. Oh yeah. And he makes several comments during the course of this chapter where this is, like, there, I it felt like there's twin mimics, and I'm currently with the wrong one. Uh, which is a really funny way to put how women splits his personality up between these things. But we do have right. Wick does say, Uh oh. He says, Did you send that note of Miss Havisham to Mr. Pip wimick? He says, Well, no, because you told me to send it, but then he walked into the office, so I just kept it. So here it is. He also makes a point to hand it to Jaggers and not directly to pip, because he is deferring to Jaggers in all things, because he's in office mode, right? And the note basically says, I need you to come see me about that thing that we talked about.
Collin Funkhouser 1:15:49
Okay, really, really direct.
Brandon 1:15:54
This is the Herbert thing, right?
Collin Funkhouser 1:15:57
No, no, it is, but it's just like it is, it is two lines. And it is basically like, I need to see you about the thing we talked about, great, what? That's so wonderful. It's great. And then Jaeger goes into something about He, who is it? Who do you think he's referring to when he's referring to the spider? Quick question, oh, it's, it's Bentley. Bentley. You think? You think Bentley's the spider, or is it a Stella?
Brandon 1:16:27
Ah, it's Bentley, because whenever he first started calling him that, it was when Bentley came to dinner with the other guy. Oh, that's
Collin Funkhouser 1:16:34
right, okay, yeah, I was little like, I see why I've slept since then.
Brandon 1:16:39
Yeah, they came to dine. They all dined together, and it was Bentley, and then the other random guy who had, like, a weird name, I can't remember, like, so we called him that. Yeah, that comes up that Bentley is to be married to the person and that, like, pips, like, I knew it, but like, I didn't want to think about it. And then we get, like, this very awkward interaction, right? Where it's like, well, you know, it's gonna go one of two ways, right? He's either he's either it'll either be fine, or he's gonna beat her beater. It's like, what he's like, Well, that's just how those people like that, like, what? What a weird sentence, right? It's like, yeah, yeah, he either beats or cringes, right? Those are the two choices,
1:17:44
you know. So that's
Brandon 1:17:48
weird, and he's like, I'm right, you know, I'm right. Ask women's like, Yep, he's right. That's it.
Collin Funkhouser 1:17:57
Okay, okay. He hosts drumble, right in this instance too
Brandon 1:18:03
well, he says, here's to Mrs. Bentley Drummle. Oh, right, taking a decanter of choice wine from his dumbwaiter and feeling for each of us and for himself, and may the question of supremacy be settled to the lady's satisfaction, right to the light, to the satisfaction of the lady and gentlemen. It never will be right. But then, then Molly is like this, the maid lady, yes, yeah, how slow you are today. She was at his elbow when he addressed her putting a dish upon the table, and she withdrew her hands from it. She fell back a step or two, nervously muttering some excuse with a certain action of her fingers as she spoke, arrested my attention. Right? The action of the fingers was like the action of knitting. And she stood looking at her master, not understanding whether she was free to go, or whether she had or he had more to say to her and would call her back if she did go and the her look was very intent. Surely I had seen exactly such eyes and such hands on a memorable occasion very lately.
Collin Funkhouser 1:19:20
Hmm, yep, and we find out, well, at least PIP has a now. And look, if there's someone who's going to make this connection, it's the one person who has been obsessed and has googled and gaga
Brandon 1:19:35
over, I believe, yes, Googling, right, Googling, right,
Collin Funkhouser 1:19:38
nonstop, obsessed, continually thinking and processing and noticing every little aspect of Estella. He puts two and two together and he goes, Ah, I am looking at estella's Mom. Well, yeah,
Brandon 1:19:53
he says, I looked again at those hands and eyes of that housekeeper, and thought of the inexplicable feeling that had come over me when I. Last walked not alone in the ruined garden and through the deserted brewery, I thought about the same feeling I had come back when I saw a face looking at me and a hand waving to me from a stagecoach window, and now it had come back again and flashed about me like lightning when I had passed in a carriage, not alone through a sudden glare of light in a dark street. So all of those times where he was like, what is I recognize something in her. What is it? What am I seeing? It was Molly. Bang, right. Bang. This is what he believes, right. So now, after this happening, right? It was, the rest of the evening was very dull. Whitmock just sort of sat there and do his thing and do his business, blah, blah. And then they leave, right? And when makes, like, Oh, yes, I will walk with you, because I'm leaving as well. And then, like, we make on the way, like a few as he's walking down the street right, he's like, shedding his his work personality away, and he's like, he's like, I had not gone half a dozen yards down Jared Street in the Walworth direction before I found that I was walking arm in arm with the right twin and that the wrong twin had evaporated into the evening air. And women's like, Well, glad that's over.
Collin Funkhouser 1:21:30
And when it even says he's like, I have to be too, you know, screwed, screwed tight or whatever, whenever I'm around him, then I can be now. And I died more comfortably
1:21:39
unscrewed. I yellow sex.
Brandon 1:21:46
So he's like, Ah, okay, well, now and then, then he's like, Hey, so have you met the Miss Bitly Drummle? And he's like, yeah, no. He's like, why you're asking? No, no reason. No reason. Anyway, how is the aged parent? How is Miss gift?
Collin Funkhouser 1:22:09
Really trying to get into this?
Brandon 1:22:12
Yeah, but then he does come back, and he's like, Hey, what do you know about this housekeeper lady? And he's like, Well, I can tell you part of it. I don't know all of it, but what I do know, I'll tell you we are in our private and personal capacities. Of course, he's like, yes, yes. Of course. He's like, Ah, well, let me tell you, apparently, this woman was tried for murder and was acquitted because Mr. Jaggers was for her, of course. So Jaggers was her lawyer, and he acquitted her in this murder case. Did she murdered some other woman? Right? Alleged, alleged, allegedly, oh, they allegedly. Right? Yeah, was found dead in a barn. Right? There had been a violent struggle, perhaps a fight. She was bruised and scratched and torn and been held down by the throat and choked. There was no reasonable evidence to implicate any person but this woman, and you know, but Jaggers got her off right? And basically was like, no, look, there was a question about the scratches on the hands, right? And like, they were like, is it fingernail scratches? Like somebody trying to stop you from choking them? And Jagger's like, no, no. She went through the brambles. Look, look, there's a torn dress on the bramble bush. See, it's fine. That was the big key piece of evidence that got her off, right?
Collin Funkhouser 1:23:54
Well, and, but the bulls, he has a boulder point here, doesn't he?
Brandon 1:23:58
Yeah, which is kind of weird, because it's like, intense. Yeah, it is intense, because the hypothesis was that she was in the process of getting rid of her child, who was approximately three years of age this time. So she was, they used the phrase destroying her child, and he was like, that's what she was doing, but you're not charging her for that, so it doesn't matter. Yep, right? That's basically what he says. He was like, she couldn't have murdered this woman because she was murdering someone else. Was getting rid of right? She was, her alibi was she was getting rid of her child, right? Huh? So she couldn't have been up to murder because she wasn't even there, because she was somewhere else,
Collin Funkhouser 1:24:50
destroying her child. Just wild,
Brandon 1:24:54
yeah, he says you are not trying her for the murder of her child, right? So I. As to this case, if you will have scratches, we will say for anything we know they may have accounted for them, salting, for the sake of the argument, that you have not invented them. Bang. So Mr. Jaggers did such a good job of confusing the jury that the woman was acquitted, right? And immediately after that, this woman came to work for Mr. Jaggers. Weird, yeah, and he says, we make, by any chance, do you remember the sex of the child? It's like, yes, it is said to have been a girl. Hmm. Said, Yeah,
Collin Funkhouser 1:25:38
yep, yep. And they then he says, anything else? Nope, I destroyed your letter. Okay? And they ended,
Brandon 1:25:48
Oh, yeah. He's all spycraft women. He's like, I read your letter and I burned it. Nothing to report. I don't even remember what letter he wrote him. Let's be honest with
Collin Funkhouser 1:25:59
you, he was asking, he asked for. He put it out by post where he was trying to get, like, hey, just so you know, I'm good, and you let me know if anything happens.
Brandon 1:26:10
Oh, okay, okay. Like, like, just, oh yeah. Just, like, if there's any change, he was being all vague
Collin Funkhouser 1:26:15
and Minecraft, you about it? Yeah, okay, yeah. When they burned it, so that I burned it cool. So now,
Brandon 1:26:24
now we are left in a bit of an interesting state, right? Because we have now PIP now has two very interesting pieces of information. He knows that compison is alive and in London, yep, and he knows, potentially, the identity of estella's mother, and he has been summoned to Miss eversham's house. Ah, so nothing could possibly go wrong now, no,
Collin Funkhouser 1:27:00
it ended so well the last so I think, yeah, right. Like, why are we even, you know?
Brandon 1:27:12
Yeah, so we have this new information. Boy, Howdy do we? And we're going to go see Habersham, which is a totally nothing bad could happen.
1:27:28
Bad idea. Yeah.
Brandon 1:27:30
So here we go.
Collin Funkhouser 1:27:34
This is, man, yeah, this one was quite the, the roller coaster of of information and because what they, what PIP is trying to piece together is like, he's also trying to be like, Why is Molly here? If that, if that is her real name, yeah, exactly. And he even point. He even asks women he's like, because you said that he tamed her. How did he tame her? And what Weck is basically saying is, well, he got him off he got her off of murder. And what we are realizing is he's blackmailing her,
1:28:16
yeah? But yeah, yeah, yeah.
Collin Funkhouser 1:28:19
He went to her and said, the only way we're getting off of this is basically if we say that you murdered your child, yeah, and, which means you have to give your child away to somebody else, yes, somebody named. Allegedly, that's what you said. Yeah, yes, yeah. And, and then, like the first, the true heartlessness of that, I guess, from Jagger's perspective, that just utterly what a just wretched and horrible situation to be done, because it also then leads credence of like, well, if that's true, then she she did do the other murdering allegedly, because we know that Jaggers is not above falsifying character witnesses. Oh no, definitely.
Brandon 1:29:21
We saw that before, yes, so that's why, when PIP first came to his office, that's what they were doing. So yeah,
Collin Funkhouser 1:29:28
he was saying, No, you don't look like it. Go find somebody else work, which, man. So there's a whole lot of that going on. So yeah, we'll see. I want to know, oh, so much, so much of what's
Brandon 1:29:43
Yeah, I think chapter 49 here is
Collin Funkhouser 1:29:45
about to be quite interesting. It's gonna be a banger, that's for sure.
Brandon 1:29:50
Yeah, well, I don't know about that, but it'll be written well. And then only 10 left too.
Collin Funkhouser 1:29:58
So. We are in the we are barreling
Brandon 1:30:04
towards the climax here. Still have no idea exactly what's supposed to be happening. Like, I don't. There's, like, no way any of this gets wrapped up in like, a satisfactory manner. So, like, I it. Nope, we'll see what's going on here.
Collin Funkhouser 1:30:27
And, Oh well, I can hopefully round us out here with with a little bit of a haiku,
1:30:41
beautiful. Okay,
Collin Funkhouser 1:30:44
endless carpet, Rose two shades, nearly the same cream. Still, we stand unsure. It's a big deal. It's a big item. It's gonna be fine, I'll survive, or something.
Brandon 1:31:17
Too bad, Barney is not around, right? No carpet, barn mule for you, right? I bet he had, I bet he had your answers,
Collin Funkhouser 1:31:28
poor bang around, but we'll see. And so that saga continues. So, all right, just who knows what's gonna happen? So we'll, we'll do this thing against You.
1:31:41
All right, okay,
Brandon 1:31:43
Love you too. Bye. You.