spring loaded candle
Brandon has a surprise. Collin is celebrating Christmas. Pip makes a decision.
Turning off a substation
Surprised scoring
What does it have in it’s pockets?
spring loaded candle
Merry Christmas everyone
Things I heard in 6th grade…
I’m too old to not know how to spell minutes…
Running out of book
Haiku:
Soaring through the air
All eyes watching filled with hope
Landing, the crowd roars
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Keywords
power outage, storm damage, volleyball game, middle school teams, candle lantern, Boy Scout camping, Miss Havisham, Estella, Provis, Herbert, Jaggers, Wemmick, Pip, Dickens
Speakers
Brandon (58%), Collin (36%), Speaker 1 (3%), Speaker 2 (1%), Speaker 3 (1%), Speaker 4 (<1%), Speaker 5 (<1%)
Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out with your
host, Brandon and
Collin on this week's show, spring
loaded, candle ahoy.
Ahoy. What's going on? Oh, not a lot. My my zoom thing has been playing this game with me. It's like a new game that we play that when I open it, it says I'm not gonna respond to that. So it'll open and it'll start loading, and it'll just be like, not responding. Oh, no. And then I close it, and then I open it again, it's like, Okay, I'm ready now, and I don't,
I've thrown my fit. You may, yeah,
it's been like being dumb for a bit, and it doesn't appear to know that we're on the clock tonight. So we gotta
get on here. We sure do
I gotta. Yeah, got a message earlier today, and the city was like, hey, what about if we shut the power down at nine o'clock?
Wouldn't that be fun? Crazy? What are they doing this for?
Again? So apparently one of the substations is messed up, so potentially from the bunch of storminess that we had the other day. There's there were several people alleged, they reported like seeing flares at the substation. That doesn't sound good,
so that doesn't
and so they're apparently turning off the power at nine o'clock to address the substation problem. Now, they usually do this kind of thing, like two o'clock in the morning.
I don't really know why they're doing it now, but whatever. Well, unless they're expecting it to take a while, I
don't know. Well, it says from nine to
11, we'll see. I don't that doesn't true. Make any sense? Yeah, I don't know.
That's what they said. That's what the message says. Maybe they know what they're fixing and they just have to, like, turn it off, slot in anything, like, pull the thing out, stick in a new one, and then juice her back up. I don't know. That sounds like something they would do. Okay? I'll let you know later how this goes. So, yeah, recording this week, get all kinds of messed up, right? And have severe weather, you know, with us the other day.
Yes, good. It's all fun, right?
So we had some exciting high wind action. I think there may have been a small bit of hail, definitely not as big as they thought it was going to be, but it was
a wee bit of Hail. Yes, yay, yeah. And then,
so that was fun. And then now, apparently it damaged the power station, so cut it down. The only other thing I did this week is we went the the middle school girls had their first volleyball game. Volleyballing time. Yes, school. So it was very good. They did very well. It was good job. So, sounds very exciting, yeah, that's pretty much all I've done this week. I've been
dodging storms, watching volleyball, right?
So I was out playing music with some people this afternoon. I had to scurry home so that we could do things and then do this, try to get this done before they turn my power off.
What the heck city? What's going on here? I don't know.
Well, at least they're keeping it exciting. That's for sure. That's true, yeah,
the best, the best thing about the so that, like the volleyball game, right? So they played through us. Apparently, we have like 90,000 girls playing volleyball, right? Oh, which is not bad, right? But we have no we have three teams. There's like, a team and a B team and a C team, right? Oh, yeah, like, full teams, right? There's not, like, there's not a lot of sharing happening between the squads. That's crazy, yeah, I know. So, I mean, that's good, though, right? It's cool. Yeah, so like, the eighth graders are basically the A team, and then the seventh graders are basically the B team. There was like, some switching in between there, right? And then the sixth graders are, like, the whole C team, yeah. So the A Team, girls are very good. It's very impressive. B team did excellent, and sixth graders did. It was our first game ever. So it was very funny. The best thing about it was, like, when they scored, they were like, surprised. When you watch their face, some of them, they'd like, they'd score, and they'd be like,
wait, no way. What happened? That's amazing. I. Great. There's no way that was me.
What happened? They're like, shocked, like, really a point no
on to the next one. Just keep Well, that's good. I'm glad that, and hopefully they at least had, had enjoyed it first ever. That's pretty
big, yeah, as a first ever, because they don't, they don't, I don't, most of them don't play. There is no other like, six years, the first year you can play the school game. And I don't think any of them play outside journal anywhere. So, so, yeah, so we'll see. We'll see how it goes. Yeah, I think have another game this week. I probably won't go to that one, but we'll see how they do. We'll see how their second game goes, right. We'll see how they feel about the second right.
Yep, this one, and then there's more,
yeah, because you get, like, the first games, you're all like, jittery, jittery, excited. Yeah, you know you don't exactly know the rotation. Because they were worried. They were like, well, we don't know the rotation. I was like, first of all, that's the coach's job, right? And then he will just tell you to go over there, right? So you don't have to know the rotation, because he will tell you, right?
Like, don't worry. Yeah, that's not on you to remember. It's okay,
yeah, it's the first game anyway, and he probably is trying to figure out the best places for people, like, who is going to be best in what spot, you know? So, like,
that's not, don't worry about that.
Focus on the game. Yeah?
Calling the ball, right? You know, just focus on the volleying. Okay, try to do that. And then
not the rotating.
Yeah, it'll tell you what to do there. It's fine, and then they'll blow the whistle so like you can't, it's fine. Don't worry about it.
That's great, yeah? Well, good. I'm glad. I'm glad they was a volleyball in time. That's very nice.
It was very fun. They do
good on their next game too.
Well, my week was not very exciting. However, I did write down an observation for you, okay, and then we should probably get into the book, because, okay, that's fair, yeah, crunch time here before the power goes off or they literally before the man in the dark for the man comes in and cuts us down. What I found in my closet? Oh, okay, hold on. Hold on. Okay. This is, this is related to me, not having power. This is, this is, guess what this is. This is a great game. I love this game. What he has, what happens?
What does it have in its pockets. Yes, yes,
okay, um, okay. So related to not having power, I'm going to guess it's like a wind up flashlight. No, it's better than that. Oh, what is it?
Shake flashlight? No, no, I found my Boy Scout camping candle lantern.
I am so jealous.
That is amazing. I know what that's complete with reflectors, baby.
Let's go My goodness, that is fantastic. I don't think like Man, what's what an ingenious little thing.
This is the greatest thing of all time. Yes, right. I used to think so much, and I still have it. I found it. I was digging around. I know I have this somewhere. I must find this. Lo and behold, I want to see if I light it later. I'll send you a picture that can be the show
yes card this week. I love that.
No, that's perfect. Oh, I had the Yeah, because those candles were so thick and so amazing. I don't know if you can buy
replacement candles for them anymore, but I have some candles also
now, of course, I immediately went to the supply store in the sky and found those candles. Oh, they Okay, good. Yes, they are out there. They are out there, and I am looking at this thing. Oh, man. But the thing is, is that trying to find this with the reflectors? That's the
Yeah, well, I had to buy the reflector separately. Yeah, they're separately, but I still have them. I dug them out. One of them is slightly bent. It's fine. Everything's fine. That's, don't worry
about it. Totally okay. Yeah, light reflector because it had the three on the top, or. Was it just the, I forget what it so, the
reflector that I have is, like, the, it, like, makes the top thing that sits on top of it, like the lid thing, yes, yeah, right. And I also have one that, like, it just, like hangs off the side and, like, projects the light in a forward direction.
Yes, that's the one I remember. And then I also remember the, yeah kind of was like, I also
have, like, what the Collin lantern ish hat that sits on there?
Yes, oh, my goodness, I am fantastic. This is great. This is great news. I know
so excited, and they work so well. I think it was like, What are you yelling about? And I was like, I
found it. Yes, yeah. Yes, it was here somewhere.
Now I have just discovered a technology that I did not know existed. This is, I'm going to send you this picture. This is, it is not just let me know when that comes through, because I did not know that this existed. It's not, oh, it's so just as many. No, it's not a single candle Brighton. Oh, it's three. Oh, I thought that was just like the reflection. I know this.
This is a three. So this is actually bigger than this is. This is bigger
than the camping one, the little mini, long burning thing.
Yeah, I know this is cool too.
But also I secretly, I don't know where my little lantern went, but I desperately need that one. I need one in life, and the other one. That's true. It's just
so simple. It's just a candle with a spring on the bottom that, as it burns, it just shoves it
up further up. Boom. It's great. Yeah. I mean, why? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I'm beautiful. Megan is in the other room and she's gonna hear this, but I'm secretly adding this to the my cart. Tell her thank you. Leave it right there. Surprise. This is fantastic. This is great news. This is much rejoicing. I was very excited. You know what? In all the news that's going around in the world, this is my
favorite news of the day. It's not really hard to have best news of the week be this.
You know, that's
what you're for in this show. Ladies Gentlemen, distractions from the real world. Yes, we know it sucks out there. We're aware. We are. We're here to take your mind off of it with burrow where camping discoveries of ancient candle lantern 30 years ago in the closet.
I really need to make sure people understand, like, we're gonna have this picture as a short, that's for sure, but, like, it's a cylinder. It's a metal cylinder that, like, collapses, collapses down. So it's like, the height of, like, what a soda can, but not as thick, yeah, less. And then, I mean,
when it's collapsed, it's small, yeah?
And then you pull up in the it extends upward, but it's the glass that's, like, the viewing window, or whatever. And then in the from the bottom, it had a little, I think the base was a little plastic screw, or metal screws on screws plastic, and it pushes this candle that's like the size of, I don't know, like the handle of a screwdriver or something,
yeah, yeah. And it's, there's a metal collar at the top that pushes so the candle stays, yeah, it holds, like it was opening so the candle pokes through the collar, and as it burns right, the candle burns down, but the spring pushes it up so that it's always in the globe, globe, glass globe, That's what lanterns have. And globe, yes,
so whatever. Oh,
yeah, yeah. So yes, there's,
there's my exciting observation. I'm very happy for this. This is, this is made my week, that's for sure. My okay, my so my observation is not nearly as exciting about this, but I did think immediately of Susan when this happened, so she will be happy to hear this. So here I here's I journaled this down, and it says it is March. It is March 7 at 11:58am, I am at a Jimmy John's Mariah Carey's. All I Want For Christmas free is you is blaring over speakers, Merry Christmas everyone.
She will approve this message. That is 100% for sure. We just had to take down our winter Christmas tree, or not Christmas tree, right? We leave a tree up. It's like just so that the house doesn't feel quite so forlorn, so quickly, right? Should have another tree like, it's a small because we have two Christmas trees, right? There's one in the bedroom and then one in the living room. So the bedroom one is like skinnier, right? Okay, so for the for the winter, the big Christmas tree gets put away, and all of the Christmas ornaments get put away, right? Okay, skinny tree comes out to the living room and gets adorned with, like, Woodland critters and pine cones. Okay, right? There's like owls and like a moose, right? And like, so it's just like winter vibes, so that she still leaves, like, the Christmas Village up because it's lighted, but it's mostly just like buildings in snow. So, like, it's not like, overtly Christmas, you know? So she leaves that out, and then we have the winter tree, so that it's not just so stark, so soon, yes, all of a sudden your house has no lights. And she's like, Oh, man.
Oh, but yes, I was sitting there waiting for my sandwich, and, like, it just was creeping up in the background. And I was like, What is that song? Because, like, the previous song was some thing from modern day that I don't know. And then it flipped to this, and it starts off, fade in, yeah, cross fade in. Like, what? And also I'm then I actually like, I'm looking more over and over at the guys who are making my sandwich, and they just hang their head, because obviously this is not one of those radio stations, like a local radio station. This is just Jimmy John's, Jimmy John's station, right? That they have access to. And what was funny is, when it ended, I said, so which one of you had that on your playlist? And a lady next to me said, I thought it was a little early to be starting Christmas. And I said, you know, see, I was gonna say it's too late for it, but here you are coming out saying that's early. That's fair. We don't know Oh, so then I grabbed my sandwich and I walked out, but I was very much just like in this weird like, what is happening right now? At first, I was thinking, surely it's not that song. Am I just mistaking it for something else? It was 100% that song, and everybody else also stopped immediately what they were doing and just listened in astonishment.
Everybody, I imagine, like everybody's head, like, slowly turned simultaneously. Everybody recognized at the same time what's happening.
Yes, there were seven of us in that and I guarantee you all of us. I didn't see the people behind me, but definitely the two people in front of me just stopped and didn't just kind of tilted their head a little bit. They were trying to figure out what was going on. And it was just a little bit of, you know, holiday cheer in March,
you know, just in time for st Patty's day. Look
at that Absolutely. That's how we do. We keep it going on for St Patrick's Day. Is you? Is you? Yeah, absolutely. So that's that was my, that was my, my observation this week. Pretty good observation. Well, I don't know about that, but it
happens actually, I also have another installment of things I heard in sixth grade. Yes, absolutely. Just for you. Just real quickly, right? So I don't remember what we were doing, right for what we were writing, even this girl, she just, all of a sudden, she stopped, and she looked, she kind of like looked at her friend, and just out loud, all of a sudden, he
goes, I'm too old to not know how to spell minutes. I Oh
yes, yes, you
are, yes, you are, you are just the
way she said, I'm so
hilarious. There was, there's a sudden crashing of reality into that, into her life at that moment, I
wish I could remember what we were even writing, or what I don't know. I don't know what we were doing, where this would have been like necessary, right? But it was, apparently, and she
that's fantastic.
It was pretty funny.
Oh my goodness. Well, I hope, well, maybe it'll remember this now maybe,
I hope so, maybe this will be the turning point right where she
she remembers how to spell it because of this incident, right? Yeah, this is the thing, bam. So there we go.
Oh, my goodness, that's too, too funny. I love it.
You all right, so now on to old PIPA Reno here.
Ah, yes, now I will. I will. Listeners, you may be thinking back to the last time we recorded and Brandon made the mistake. I of uttering the phrase, well, we haven't heard about a Stella in a while.
No, yeah, because then we flip to literally the next page. I know
the first sentence, I promise you, I did not read this. Okay, I knew it was no, I promise you. Why should I pause to ask how much of my shrinking from Provis might be traced to Estella.
It was so it was too perfect. We had finished it, and I was like, Haha, that's funny. You're right. We haven't heard from her. And then I sent out to read the other day, and I was just like, hug my head. Of course. We're back. We are back, and we are back with like a vengeance, like, Pip is on a mission right now.
Yeah, like we're this is we postulated, like, Do you think he'll go talk to Haversham about this situation? And, I mean, we thought we, what we actually said was, I think we're pretty sure he's going to, because he's very predictable, and there's really no reason for him to, but he just is going to, because he's insane, and so he's decided that he's going to go, not like, reveal the whole situation, because he's still kind of like, I'm not like, because at least we know that Miss Haversham is not like, trustworthy, right? So, yes, that's at least, at least we, we know that, okay, we've come so far as to understand that is a thing. So we're not gonna go like, Oh, hey. I'm gonna tell you all about this random convict that is like, hanging out at my house. Okay, we're not gonna do that, but like, he just is gonna, I don't even know what his whole goal was here, like this, I already wanted from this.
This was what I was trying to figure out, because in this moment, he's basically like, all I can think about is to go talk to Estella and Habersham. And I don't know why. I don't know why, because he there's no reason for him to do this. He doesn't need to go lord it over them or inform them of anything. But now he's like, No, I just, I have to, I have to go tell somebody I don't know I was struggling with this. Of like, yeah, why? Because this is also, this is in my mind. This is also a big shift in how PIP has responded in other things previously. I think the only other time where he's been like, taken up with gusto and direction is to help Herbert with finance when they were putting their affairs in order. Yes, exactly between that and then, like him, secretly funding Herbert from behind the scenes. Like that's the only other time he's taken any initiative and anything else, and now it's with this news of provost and who he is, and what this connection is. I just, I just have to go talk to these two people. I sure Pip, I guess you need to whatever.
Maybe it's because he doesn't really know where else to go. Like he's, he's, at this point, he's basically said, I have, I have, like, turned so far away from like, Joe and bitty that I can never get right. And so, like, even though, like, he just keeps he brings it up randomly that he should have he should be there. Like, he realizes now that his place all along was there, he's basically, like, I've come too far and done too many weird things to go there, so I'm gonna go here, but like he ends up he goes to wimex later, and that's makes much more sense, like, oh yes, in the overall, excuse me. Really. We go here for plot, because when we get here, right, we have a bit of, like, measuring contest here with right? So, yeah,
we see Bitly drum. Bitly right drumming at the end.
Hey, they're the board thing or whatever. And right? He's blue boar, the blue board, yeah. And he's like, there too. And he they're like, both not giving an inch right? Like, oh, well, I'm by the fire, and then, well, I'm gonna sit by the fire, and then, like, this really awkward thing comes where pips breakfast gets brought but he's not gonna get up, because he's not gonna relinquish his place at all, because, because Bentley is there. And like, there's just this weird like, like, they don't ignore they, like, ignore each other for a long time. And then they pull the like, Oh, I didn't see you there, yeah?
Like, because he reached for the poker and he's like, Oh, were you there? And then they have these very short turfs of like, do you stay here long? Can't say, Do you can't say, said, I like, oh my gosh, okay, this is really what we're doing, yeah? Because also remember the. Last time they interacted, Pip discovered that Drummle had knowledge of Stella, knew her, and now he so he's obviously angry by that. Well, that's
why he's he knows that's why he's here, right? Yes, because he's like, it comes up later that he's like, going out riding alone whatever.
Well, he keeps saying the the lady and I are to be blah, blah, blah. He never says her name,
though, yeah. But PIP knows, like, the way that he's speaking and looking at him like, he knows, like, Pip doesn't like you. You would also know, as a reader, like, very clearly
what's happening. Yeah, he says this, like three times, like, I say, look here, you sir, the lady won't ride today. The weather won't do and I don't dine because I'm going to dine at the ladies, okay, yes, we get it, we understand. And PIP is definitely and they're squaring off in front of the fire, and his food's getting cold, and the wait staff is like pleading with him to please do something. Hurry up.
Oh, it's, it's, yeah.
So that's basically chapter 43 we get like this, like awkward thing of them like doing that, right? And then,
sorry, he goes out. He leaves. And I think there's interesting that as Dremel, he goes out, but he comes back for a smoke and a light. And PIP is pretty sure that Orlick is the one who's helping him.
Yeah, he did say that. He did mention, like, what he say? Dremel leaned down from the saddle and lighted his cigar and laughed with a jerk of his head towards the coffee room windows, the slouching shoulders and ragged hair of this man whose back was towards me reminded me of Orlick. That's all we get. We don't know for sure,
but like, but it
probably is like, like, because this is this book and the same like six characters just keep showing back up again. But yes, we're all connected. Also, it would make sense that he is equating Orlick to Bentley, because they're but we, but we know that Orlick is a no good sleaze bag, oh, right, yeah. And we know that Bentley is a no good sleaze bag, right? And so, like, that's fair. I think, I think also he may just be equating, or, like, with this situation, just because it's not good and Bentley sucks, and so, you know who else sucks, or, like,
all of them. Yeah, you know,
maybe so, yeah,
this is, this is pretty much just a way for him to get to his hometown and encounter trouble and the tension rises.
Yeah, because, like he did, he did try to go to Stella's first Oh, but then she was gone, and he was like, she doesn't go without me anywhere. And he was like, Oh crap, something's up, yeah. And then, because all the other times, like he's been told to get her with her, yes, yeah. But now she went by herself, and so now he's like, oh. And then he gets there, and then Bentley's and he's like, double
Oh, double they up, Oh, yeah. So now
we have more awkward. Oh, oh, this one hurt. This one is rough, right?
I don't, I don't know what to do with this one. Yeah, yeah, because now he goes, we just jump straight to he's at the dressing table with Miss Havisham and Estella. And Estella is knitting, yeah?
And he's like, he basically just comes out. And he's like, I found out who my patron is. It is an unfortunate discovery, right? Or it is not a fortunate discovery, and is not likely ever to enrich me and reputation, station, fortune, anything. There are reasons why, I must say, no more than that, this is not my secret,
but another's right, weird statement,
yeah, so
you know, he's, he basically, kind of says the same thing that he said to Jaggers, is, like you did not, you know, basically, like you misled me by not telling me what's happening. Yes, right? Like, but she was like any conclusion that you made on your own. The fact that Jaggers is my lawyer and this other person's lawyer is purely coincidence, and I have nothing to do with it and like. But when I fell into this mistake I have so long remained in, at least you led me on. Yes, she returned. Yes, I let you go on and. And he says to her, was that
kind Oh? And she
like, screams like, Ah, who am I, right? Who am I, for God's sake, that I should be kind like, Yeah, that's true. That's your PIP. We've been saying that all along. I don't know why this is a prize to you, right?
Yeah, yeah. He's Yeah. She's kind of, kind of, like, the same thing that. I mean, she's responding very much the way Estella has responded before, of like, yeah, what do you I am, who I am, what he's talking about here. And then it's yeah. So he's like, Yeah, okay, well, we'll just, we'll just move on here. But he doesn't they,
well, here's the here's the point that I think, like he does make this point, which I think is very good of him, right? He says, In humoring, my mistake, Miss Habersham, you punished practice on perhaps you will supply whatever term expresses your intention without offense, your self seeking relations, yeah, and he's like, look, I have been thrown along Hmong family of your relations, Miss aversham, and have been constantly among them since I went to London. I know them to have been honest under my delusion as myself and I should be false and base if I did not tell you whether it is acceptable to you or not, and whether you are inclined to give credence to it or not that you deeply wronged both Mr. Matthew Pocket and his son, Herbert,
yes, yeah, he's basically coming out into the defense of Mr.
Pocket Herbert. He's saying like you may not like some people of your family, right, but I'm here to tell you that they're good people, and it's wrong what you did, and it is wrong that you did this
to them. And she tries to retort and say what they're your friends. I love how he responds. He said they made themselves my friends when they supposed me to have superseded them when they thought I was getting your money, and I, he said, and when and when? Sarah pocket, Mr. Gianna and Miss Mistress Camilla, were not my friends. They were still friends to me. Even though they thought I was getting your money, even though they're related to you, they still befriended me, and she was, I don't think she was expecting this,
no, because he's like, what do you what do you want? And he's like, I am not so cunning as you you see, just want, you know, I just need you know this. Because he was like, You're, you're like, you're, I mean, part of this He's telling her, like, look, you're like, vengeful streak, because he also has more insight onto what happens now that we know who Provis is, yeah, right. He's like, look, you're hurting all these people that have nothing to do with this. You're unintentionally hitting the bystanders, and they're not the people you think they are like, maybe, like, Sarah sucks.
But like, Well, yeah, maybe a little
Matthew and Herbert. Oh, you know, they have no ill will towards you whatsoever, yeah? And he's basically standing up with them, saying, like, he's very wrong.
And then he asks, basically, yeah, he asked her to keep doing the thing that he's done. He's like, also, I've been doing this in a certain way to keep the, you know, them taking taken care of. Could you please continue to do that? Because I'm about to not have any of that. Yeah.
Well, he's also, it sounds like he's planning on
leaving. Yes, yeah, he's
planning on leaving because he, he has said multiple times he doesn't want Provost money anymore. He's done, yeah, but he also doesn't want to leave Herbert alone without and so
well, he's also been talking like, with Herbert, that the only option is to leave with Provost somewhere. Yes, right. Like they in order to, like, make the situation safer for like, both of them, like, they need to go away, yes, right? And so, like, if he goes away, like, even if he's going to be, like, having provost's money, like, because provost will be there with it, right? Like, he can't get it to
Herbert, No, he can't do what he's been doing, yeah, because he's leaving,
he will not be in Herbert's vicinity, you know? So, yeah, so he's like, he asked her to do that, right? And then we get then he turns to Estella, right? And basically he hits her with, look, I have been desperately in love with you since I first met you. Okay, I know that you don't love me, even though everyone saw he's like, Are you sure?
Okay? Just checking. Yeah, but
are you but really okay, but, but no, but okay. And then he. Like, looks at her, and it's like,
but Bentley, but Bentley sucks of all people like,
he's the worst people like you. There are people he basically says, like, there are people out there that even if you don't, like, feel the same way about them as they do about you. They will be better to you than he will. Yes, right? Yes, that's basically what he's saying. He's like, I know, like, you can't, you know you're the thing and blah and whatever. But they're, you can't there. He's not good. And you could be able to find somebody better than Drummle, right? So that's basically this part, right? And MS Habersham is, like, very she keeps, he's saying that she keeps, like, clutching her heart, her heart. And when he says things like this to her,
and she's looking from what them back and forth and back and forth like she is, yeah, not like, I don't know. I think in one hand, you would think that she would be enraptured and enjoy, like, loving, loving this of what's happening. But she's seeing this, and she's, I don't think she likes what she's seeing like, or at least, or I don't know, maybe she's doing this out of joy.
Oh well, I don't know she feel I don't know, because she feels like, upset about it, right?
Yeah, I got more upset out of this. But also I'm like, I don't know it's mishappish. I can't, yeah, because
whenever he's like, I thought and hoped you could not mean it like that. When I say, I love you, you don't feel anything, right? You're so young and tried and beautiful. Shirley is not your nature. She's like, it is. And then she's like, Oh, swoon, right? However, she's like, No, say it like that to him, right? Yeah, yeah.
Why? And oh, oh. And then we get to him saying, You cannot love him. Estella, her fingers stopped for the first time as she retorted, rather angrily, what have I told you? Do you still think, in spite of it, that I do not mean what I say? And then she says, and he says, you would never marry him.
Estella. She's like, I'm bored, bro, yes.
Then she says, she says, I am going to be married to him. Yeah, because, because you're right. She's like, basically, she's going off script here with Miss havership plan, yes. She's like, I'm bored. I don't like just being flung about. And, you know, whatever, whatever i this will at least be interesting to me, and to do,
yeah, like, it's just yeah, she's just like, I just don't, I'm just sitting around being introduced to people being doted on, and it's not interesting. And I'm like, don't like it, so at least I'll have something to do, which is a weird way of saying, right, yeah. And like, he after this, I guess again, right? She, he's like, surely you can't love him. And she's like, bro, I don't love anybody, yeah, like, whatever. Like, I don't care. Like, but, uh, he's like, so distressed by this that he decides he's just gonna walk back. He does. I don't really, we don't really know how far away this is, right? It's not, uh, insignificant distance. But he's like, so distraught that he's just gonna walk back right, walk all the way to London.
I love that. One of their parting words, Estella says, Oh, don't worry about me being a blessing to him for I won't. I will give him nothing
of me. You're like, Oh, my goodness.
Okay, and you're right. He just gets so like, he doesn't know what to do, but he knows that he doesn't want to sit, he doesn't want to talk to people, he doesn't want to. And I, I really, I did empathize with him in that moment of, like, when you you're in, your head is spinning and so full of just, like, insert name of emotion here. Yeah, you don't the last thing you want is to have to make idle chit chat and banter with people is to have
to, and he definitely is not
going back to the inn. Oh, no, we'll be there, right? Definitely not going there, no. So he just
walks back to London.
And I guess it's a good thing that he does do that.
That is true. Well, I mean, I mean, he was gonna walk up to the door either way, yes, but yes, we get a rather exciting cliffhanger, right, like, because where he gets to the door,
right? And there is a new
Yeah, the gay garden. Credit Card guy, yeah, he's like, Oh, I've got a note for you, and you're to read it here under my lantern light, like that weird sentence, but okay, and
please, yeah, the note says, Please read this here, right? Also, we need to talk about just how there's this, this just very strange detail, right here that you don't have in 2026 because he immediately, he holds it up and read inside, and he immediately recognizes wimex
handwriting, handwriting, right?
He's like, yes in wimex script, right? Because, if you're communicating solely by handwritten notes all the time, you do have an idea of what how people write. So like, yeah, outside of like, Susan and dad, I tell who else has who else is writing things, right? Because both of them are, like, so distinct, yeah, right, that, like, and some of my kids, right? Because they're clearly like, Oh, those are so terrible. Like, I know exactly, right? You always recognize those ones, the ones you're like, oh, boy, I can't hardly read this. I know exactly who this is, nice. Well, you know, this is not a thing that you do anymore. No. So that was a thought that I had. But the note says, in all caps. I don't know if it writes in all caps or not, but in the text,
in the text, we had
all caps for us, don't
go home. What a fantastic clip hair for a serially released newspaper like writing, what a fantastic way to just be like, I'm gonna get lots of readers next time.
Yeah, really saved that one for close to the end here, like, I'll get them finally with this one, yes, oh, but so yeah, so he, he just turns around and he leaves. He goes to some just random,
we would consider these a like, by the night, like, like a motel on the side. It's not nice in there. It is not a nice motel. This is true.
Yeah, it was pretty not great. What a doleful night, how anxious, how dismal, how long. There was an inhospitable smell to the room of cold soot and hot dust. And as I looked into the corners of the tester over my head, I thought, what a number of Blue Bottle flies from the butchers and earwigs from the market and grubs from the country must be holding up in there lying by for next summer.
And then he starts thinking about, what if any of them ever tumbled down. And then I fancy that I felt light falls on my face, a disagreeable turn of thought, yes, then suggesting other and more objectionable approaches. Up my back, he's basically feeling bugs crawling all over.
He's in not a great place. Here he keeps like, right like in his dreams, like he's just haunted by this, don't go home, right? Like, that's what's sort of happening here, yeah.
And it's been turned over in different phrases. Like, you can't go home, you won't go home. You can't, like, don't, don't not go like, it was just very it's a lot going on in there with him,
yes, yeah. And so like, when he gets up in the morning, he immediately leaves, which,
as you do, right? Yes.
So yeah, I did like the I had left directions that I was to be called at seven for it was plain that I must see Weck before seeing anyone else, yes, and equally plain that this was a case in which his Walworth sentiments only could be taken, yes, right? So we can't go to work to see women, right? This is, this is, this is personal. Mick, okay, so we must not conflate this with work. Mick, right. This is personal whimmick. So we must go to the castle.
We're going to the castle, yes.
And and he was very much relieved to get out of here, because he didn't really sleep that often.
Turns out that's not a problem,
no, right? So
he gets there and he like, it's like, early morning still, and no one's not really up yet. If he's like, wimex like, Ha, so you did come home after all, yes, but I didn't go
home. He goes, Ah,
good, good, well, and then we find wimex
Like, yes, very devious, right? I was a very, I
love this whimper. I know we need. He was prepared. He went to not just the one gate, but he. Just like, I didn't know where you were coming home, so I went to all of them, and I'm going to make sure I need to go back and pick them up so that, you know, you don't want evidence around. I mean, what?
Yeah, he's like, it would never do to it's a good rule never to leave documentary evidence, if you can help it. You don't know when it may be put in. Oh, like, also just in the next sentence, he's like, I'm awful sorry to ask you this, but would you mind toasting the sausage for the aged? And he's like, Oh, yes, of course. And then he says this because, like, the this Mary Ann lady who's like, the maidest servanty lady, she just like, comes by to, like, help out with stuff. He's like, okay, you can go right. And she leaves. And he's like, All right, now, Pip
now, he literally says, Now, Pip,
like, and very conspiratorially, and again, we get this, like, a very gig in circles. It is fantastic. Like Mr. Jaggers again, right?
Like he says something, you know, he keeps talking about how he accidentally heard I was at a place where I took you once, but I'm not but, but you know where I'm not going to say or name that place
I accidentally heard yesterday morning, said we make being in a certain place where I once took you, even between you and me, it is well, not to mention names, when avoidable.
So we went to the jail.
Yeah, I heard by chance yesterday morning that a certain person, not all together, uncolonial pursuits and not unpossessed of portable property. I don't know who it may really be. We won't name his. Person had made some little stir in a certain part of the world where a good many people go, not always in gratification of their own inclinations, and not quite irrespective of the fence. Right? Right was there so Australia?
Right because prisoners were sent there.
Right by disappearing from such place and being no more heard of thereabouts, conjectures have been raised in theories formed. I also heard that you at your chambers in Garden Court temple had been watched and might be watched again by whom I wouldn't go into that said women, right. It might clash with official responsibilities. I heard it, as I have in my time. Heard other curious things in this same place.
And then he's very specifically says, I don't tell you on information received. Basically he's saying, I didn't hear this second hand. I heard I heard
it like somebody I hear from a guy who heard from a guy like, I
heard this. I This is what I heard, yes, yeah.
So yeah.
And then they go to toasting the aged and having, oh
yeah, something, have some breakfast and some stuff or whatever. So then they kind of figured out, like they're trying to form a plan, right? Like, he asks him also about this copy song person, and if he's alive, right? He's like, you can don't answer. He like, basically, again, we're playing games. So he's like, You don't have to say it out loud, just nod, right. And so he asked if he's alive, is he in London? Nod, right. Okay.
Anyway, questioning over, yeah, let's talk about other things.
Oh, oh man. So yeah, we've got Oh. And also, right? The other part of this, like, he's not done talking in circles, though he's like, I went through the Garden Court, not finding you, I went to find Herbert, and without mentioning any name or going into details, I gave him to understand that if he was aware of anybody Tom jack or Richard being about the chambers or about the immediate neighborhood. He had better get Tom jack or Richard out of the way while you were out of the way. Yes, and I like this, he would be greatly puzzled. And he was like, Oh, he was,
he was puzzled, not to less, because I gave him my opinion, right? It's not safe, right? He's like, Tom Jack. He keeps giving multiple names, like, I don't, I don't know the guy. But if it
was like, if there was some guy, I don't know his name, you know, whatever, yeah, but
you just imagine poor Herbert sitting there being like, yeah, what is
going on, yeah. But basically they like, it comes to pass that they've decided that Herbert's woman, her. Also doesn't so Herbert's girl, Oh, does not like Pip pip, because at all he's like, have you? Are you acquainted with this woman? He's like, not personally, I'd love this.
Yeah. He says the truth was that she had objected to me as an expensive companion who did Herbert no good, and that when Herbert had first proposed to present me to her, she had received the proposal with such very moderate warmth that Herbert had felt himself obliged to confide the state of the case to me with a view to the lapse of the little time before I made her acquaintance. And he's like, anyway, also,
it is true. He's like, I didn't bother telling women on this but basically was just like, Yeah, I haven't. I've only communicated with her through Herbert. Anyway, Herbert's girlfriend, Clara, right? Her she also has an aged parent. Yes, wow. Who is about and they have, they have another room in the house or above, wherever they are, wherever he is, down by the shipyard place, yes, the share place. You say yes, and he's like, Hey. So they took him there this Tom jack or Richard, to this place, you know. And if you should want to slip him out board on some sort of foreign pack boat, there he is ready to go.
He's ready absolutely,
yeah, so that's where he is, and he's basically like we I made it clear to Herbert that he should be moved when you were not around, so that the suspicion would not be to you. Yes, being associated
with him, Yep, yeah, got him like that. Oh, so yeah, this is bad.
It's like, yeah. It's all about diverting suspicion and confusion. It for the same reason I recommended that even if you came back last night, you should not go home, it brings in more confusion. And you want confusion?
Yes, oh, well, boy, do we ever have that, right?
We absolutely do. And then we mix like, well, I've done all that I can. And now he's switching back to a from a Woolworth point of view, and
as he's putting his coat on, right, it's like a very hilarious transition, like, he puts his coat on, he's getting ready to go, and he's sort of like, okay, well, I can't talk about this anymore because I'm getting ready to leave. And he's like, you can stay here, like, if you're good to go, like, you can stay here for today, for a while. You know, you know he'll be up presently, and you can spend some time with the aged, which they do by I soon fell asleep before what makes fire and the age and I enjoyed one another's company by falling asleep before it more or less all day he fell asleep. Well, I mean, he didn't sleep last night, though, in the roach motel. So like, you know this isn't so bad. So, yeah, so when I when it was quite dark, I left the age preparing the fire for toast, and I inferred from the number of teacups, as well as from his glances at the two little doors on the wall that Miss skiffins was expected. Oh, he's like, All right, well, they're gonna do their thing, and I'm gonna just get out of the way. I'm just gonna go and figure out what the heck to do now. So yeah,
also there, wimick did give one last piece of advice, where he said, avail yourself of this evening to lay hold of his portable property. You don't know what may happen to him. Don't let anything happen to the portable property.
Oh, yes, yes, which is just code for money, right? This is code for money. Get his money, yeah. So in case something does happen, you have it yes, because they gave it like whatever was left in the account, Jaggers returned right since he had made himself known, that was the deal, so it's around somewhere.
So yeah, like, that's what?
And then, and then he's off. Yeah, oh, this, these three. I It's probably just because they were much more actiony. They were much for PIP himself, too.
I'm also probably, I'm pretty like, if these last several aren't actually, there's gonna be a problem, right? Like, because surely now, like things have to be cranking on, right? Yes, like things have to be happening. Like, big time.
There's no way they can't, yeah, at this point, like there's what, there are so many things in motion at this time between. I mean, obviously the net closing in around Provis, obviously the the you. Yeah, whatever his name was around Estella and Habersham. What's the guy's name? Coppin company and or whatever?
Oh, copy song. This copy song, fellow, yes,
this is we're moving here, and I expect the next ones to be equally as
we'll see. I don't know what the Yeah, who knows what in the world is about to be happening here, but I don't, I don't know. We're running out of book, right? We are. I think there's only 59 chapters. Yes, 59 chapters. And we're on 46 so it's getting there. We're getting there, all right, boom. And this afterward is, by the way, fake in my book. Oh, this afterward that I have is just like, because I was flicking through here, and it's just like, not, it's not part of the story. It's like, talking about Dickens. So, like, oh,
okay, so it's
not a real afterwards. Whoever put this Yeah, version together, an afterword written by Annabelle Davis golf, just about Dickens things probably about, like, some of the stuff in the book that you were supposed to get while you're reading it. So, right later, but it's better than reading when they put that stuff in the beginning, right? Well, that's true. Unlike classic novels, they put it in the forward, yeah, and you're like, ah, the forward, where it tells you all about the book. You're like, wait, wait a minute. I don't hold on.
Now, fantastic. I haven't read the book yet. Yes,
it's okay to read that on your second read, but if you've read it for the first time, you don't need to read the forward about the somebody else telling you about how this book works, because you haven't read the book yet. So it doesn't make any sense to put it at the beginning. So in this case, it's placed in the correct spot, but it's
called the wrong thing. So
So, yeah, we'll see what on earth is gonna happen. Like, is Pip gonna leave? Like, does he I don't really know where we're at right now because, like, it feels like we're gearing up to, like, run away.
It does where we're going.
That's the thing, right? I have a suspicion that he's actually, I don't know I have it. I am thinking that he's not actually ultimately going to run away, and that hopefully he'll be steered back to a forge, but probably
not doubt it, because he's pretty stubborn about this. I know I just, I can hope, yeah, so I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I wouldn't put it past Dickens. You're like, and he ran away, and it's like, nine years later.
It's the last it's the last paragraph, and it just says, nine years.
Yes, that's Ruby. It'll be something dumb like that. Like, see, I don't really know, and I don't know what, yeah, I'm not really sure. I don't know he, yeah, that's a possibility. He could but I don't know. Like, gets his hands on the public property, and then ducks and then narcs on promise, yes. And then he gets a big double cross pit. Will not do that, though, he's not going to do that. He's not gonna do that. Betray him for his money. That's not something he would do. That's not very Pippy of him. You know what? We'll see. So I have no idea. I have absolutely no idea what's about to happen.
Well, yes, I have a haiku, a haiku, yay. Before my power disappears, I know we got it. We're doing great on time.
Now I know I'm just really, like, freaked out, like, Who knows if nine o'clock is the real time? This would be, like,
the other thing, you could just be sitting around for an additional, like, 30 minutes waiting for something to happen. And I know, like, because it's not like, it's gonna be kind of weird if exactly at nine o'clock, everything just goes, let me yeah, let me know. But like, also, the other other thing is, you could just be waiting minutes upon minutes upon minutes.
Yeah, so we'll see what's about to happen here. But okay, anyway, just to be safe. Yes. Do you have any other closing thoughts before we left here?
I do not. I do not. I think we're all good on my end. So all right, okay, here we go, bang,
soaring through the air,
all eyes watching filled with hope landing. The crowd roars,
hey, they're nice, nice.
And then the girls turn to look at each other.
Go, me. I. The second haiku of the faces turn surprise reaches across their face. Yeah, something shock, shock, shock and awe.
The point total climbs. Shocked faces stare at scoreboard.
See, okay, okay, this is good. This is good. No, I like that. Very nice. Okay, look. We started and ended with volleyball, wonderful, wonderful, boom, okay, kept it up in the air all that time. Got it nice.
That's because we're a professional organization who values continuity. That's yes we it is, and whimsy
also continuity, also continuity, because that's what we do here. How many do here? We do we're staying, yes, cotton, ooh, is he? How many? You know what? That doesn't show up in here? Oh, it does. One time, one time, well, and on that we'll, well, yeah, bombshell, boom. We're continuous. And we'll
get my lantern ready, please,
and the countdown has started. Okay, very good. Love you.
Love you too. Bye. You.
