pottle of strawberries

In which Brandon (sort of) lost his voice, Collin critiques a local establishment, and we forget what chapters we read. 

• Brandon is back to school

• Stumbled upon an anomaly 

• What is your preferred salad dressing?

• What is your third favorite salad dressing?

• Brandon - thousand island dressing

• Collin - Italian

• Plus delta chart

• Chapters 19-21

• Brandon Haiku:

• A single question

• With proud implications

• Girl, where's the pizza

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SUMMARY KEYWORDS

podcast, salad dressing, survey results, staff responses, salad dressing preferences, house salad, blue cheese dressing, ranch dressing, 1000 Island dressing, client meetings, kidney stones, LASIK surgery, London, Mr. Jaggers, Pip's expectations, Pip, Mr. Pocket Jr., Bernard's Inn, decay, strawberries, London, Miss Havisham, Sarah, lisping guy, expectations, reality, torment, optimism, lodgings, backstory.

SPEAKERS

Collin, Brandon

Collin Funkhouser  00:04

Collin, welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out with your host, Brandon and Collin on this week's show, puddle of strawberries, ahoy.

Brandon  00:18

Ahoy. What's going on? Not a lot. I was, like, trying to make sure that it was a meeting. It was being deceptive. Good. How are you just reviving the first week back at school after Christmas break? Little rough, nice.

Collin Funkhouser  00:33

I was gonna ask, yeah, how's your is your throat doing?

Brandon  00:36

Okay? The first day was completely destroyed. So, like, whenever you're like, Hey, I can't record today. And I was like, oh, oh, good.

Brandon  00:51

So it's fine, perfect, better after that. But the first Tuesday, it was like, frog over here, pretty rough. Well, you know, okay, my children are very loud humans, so I speak over them. Yeah, yeah. I told them once today, I was like, do? I was like, I don't want to have to speak over you, but I can,

Tori L.  01:24

so I need you to calm it down.

Brandon  01:26

And then, like, five minutes later, they were right back up. So I just started talking it like it's so loud, and they just stopped and stared at me.

Speaker 1  01:34

Yes, this is how loud I must be to speak over you. So stop it.

Collin Funkhouser  01:39

Do you see how this is a problem.

Brandon  01:44

You see how this cannot function, right? You see how this is not a sustainable practice, so it's all right. So yeah, did a lot of stuff, finished up, a couple things from before break, right? We had, like a project that we had to finish up.

Speaker 2  02:03

So did that, and so I have have a question for you. Collin, oh no. Oh no, I have

Tori L.  02:13

it is time for our yearly

Brandon  02:19

survey graphing survey results thing, right? Yes. So I did my customary example, right? I sent the email to the staff, okay, and I asked them the a question, right? A survey question so that I can graph the results to kind of show the kids what a good graph looks like, right? Yeah, I have stumbled upon an anomaly. Oh, right. When I asked this question, I got, like, I've done this two years, right? And it like takes forever for the responses to trickle in and right? I get, like, a couple here, right, like, whatever. I got so many responses within five minutes of me some the first response came within 30 seconds of sending this email. I What question did you ask? Collin, oh, no, I asked the staff. What is your preferred salad dressing? And the tsunami of responses, what? Apparently, the people I work with have exceptionally strong opinions about salad dressing. Oh, I crazy. 70 responses. I don't even know 70 people work there. Last year, for reference, when I asked the potato question, I got 35

Collin Funkhouser  04:02

more than doubled this Yeah, 71

Tori L.  04:08

responsive, Wow,

Brandon  04:10

I did not know. Like, I did not know 71 people worked this building, but it was, did they forward this on to their friends? Like we're I don't know. I don't know there's so many new people in the building this year that I did get a lot of responses. I mean, I was like, Who is that? Felt kind of bad, like, new high school teachers, right? And like, I'll never go over that really people are or, like, new whatever. So I was like, there's a couple people. I was like, Who is this person?

04:40

In a minute? Don't know you

Speaker 2  04:45

well, this is it was shocking. I was not expect that to wasn't

Brandon  04:51

expecting that. Yeah, I wasn't. Either I was not either I learned a lot about a lot of people. I one of the I got, I. Yeah, lots of one of the one of them has that very, very strong opinions about caesar dressing, right? That is apparently the only allowable answer. All of the dressings must be thrown in the trash. That's what I heard from so I even gave them like I gave them I remember to give them choices, right? Because when I asked the pizza question, it went off the rails, right? It was all bad. People had the wackiest responses. And I was like, I can't even graph that. No one else is gonna say that. And they didn't. And like, I'm not just gonna make a huge grab for like, one response. No, you don't want that. So I learned to give choices, right? And so I gave them six. Maybe. What ranch? Blue cheese, 1000 Island vinaigrette, honey mustard, Caesar. Is there another one? Perhaps, is what I gave him. And Hot dang, it was nuts. So I don't so Collin really, what I want to know is what, what is your third favorite salad dress? It was coming.

06:20

Oh, this one is okay, okay.

Brandon  06:23

Oh, for reference, for reference, I did in my email state that this was, like a house style salad, okay, this is, that's important, right? Like that. I feel like that's important, so I like nothing crazy, just like a normal, like house style salad,

Collin Funkhouser  06:38

yeah, this is probably going to say a lot about me on a house salad. Okay, third is going to be an Italian,

Brandon  06:52

okay, oh, that was on the list too. That was the other one. I missed the Italian dress. That was the Dark Horse one on the list

Collin Funkhouser  06:57

like, yeah, yeah, mine would be Italian. What about you? What's your favorite? What's your Well, this

Brandon  07:06

is one of those. It changes a lot, right? There was a period of time in my life where I did go through a very large Italian dressing phase, right? This side note, this conversation is probably going to upset all of our international listeners. It's like, the most American thing of all time, right? But like, I would say, currently, I think my third favorite would probably be 1000 Island dressing. Okay, yeah, I I probably because it's the most common I do like a French dressing, but that's like, very rarely. Do they even have that in any place. So, like, I'm going to say 1000 Island dressing is probably my third favorite. It's going on the third favorite list.

Collin Funkhouser  07:46

I'm realizing I probably have just never had a good 1000 Island dressing. That's fair, because I think the only time we would ever have it was at Mimi's, and she'd buy the like, the wishbone 1000 Island.

Brandon  08:01

Oh, yeah, yeah, that's not great, right? Like, I was talking like a restaurant is

Collin Funkhouser  08:05

like, much better, yeah, yeah. I think that's just why, like, that is my default. Like, what's 1000 Island taste like that? Okay, that is a fair point, right?

Brandon  08:15

That will allow that a caveat here, because that is not good. Yeah, wish that is not a good representation, in my opinion. No, no, no anymore.

Collin Funkhouser  08:33

I'm gonna listen intently and grab their blue cheese, okay if they don't, if they don't, and true, okay if they don't have that, I'm just going to default to ranch immediately.

Brandon  08:45

However, you and at least 50% of the staff

Collin Funkhouser  08:50

that is, of course, welcome to the Midwest people. This is, yeah,

Brandon  08:54

right, yes. I'm sorry, all of our French listeners, yeah, the obvious choice for a this is a Midwest school. It was ranch dressing. It was

Collin Funkhouser  09:04

like, I know, I know, I know. And then I'm gonna go Italian, although I guess that'd be kind of a weird restaurant if they didn't have ranch but they did have Italian, but it could be out, so I'm just going,

Brandon  09:20

that's true. Or sometimes you're like, This is the go to. But every once in a while, you're just like, you don't need to switch it up a little bit, yeah, right. So you switch it up to like, Oh, I'm gonna go here. Yeah, I'm pretty much the same way. I'm gonna go either it depends on the day. It is going to be ranch and blue cheese dressing, and then 1009 is going to be a strong third currently, right? So, yeah, definitely, I've been, I don't eat. It's like, this opportunity doesn't come up, like, all the time. But like, I have been in a strong, like, blue cheese phase, right? So, like, that is where I am going. But like, yeah. It's going to be either ranch or blue cheese, just for simplicity, how salad and then 1000 Islands is a strong, strong third place. So, okay, yeah,

Collin Funkhouser  10:15

I, yeah, we had, I, we had,

Brandon  10:20

we had had salad the other night, and, yeah, I was immediately asking for a blue cheese. And I don't know

Collin Funkhouser  10:30

I was here, Collin critiques a local establishment blue cheese dressing. I The variety of of, obviously, you just never know, like, oh, you use the same word for the stressing. But yeah, this is not what my expectations were. This was definitely the ranchiest blue cheese that I had had. That is unfortunate. It was, it was a weird it was a weird take. But there we were eating my blue cheese ranch dressing

Brandon  11:06

we went to at the beginning of the year. I think I mentioned that we went to, like, a steakhouse with some of our friends before school started, right? And they had the, like a, like a wedge salad thing happening, right? And I got blue cheese on that. And it was like, it had, like, actual, just, like blue cheese chunks in it, like, just, like there was just like, Oh, and there's also this dressing, but mostly it's just like actual bits of blue cheese. I was like, Okay, this is there we go, like, that's just had, like, a very large amount of actual blue cheese just crumbled over top. She was like, Okay, this, this is now the default. This is what I want at all times.

Collin Funkhouser  11:47

How do I make sure? Yeah, it's like, the one time I ordered an actual espresso shot, I was go. I went through a phase where that's all I got. I'd go to coffee shops and I would get

Brandon  12:04

that is, you definitely do not need that. That is awful.

Collin Funkhouser  12:07

Just get just shots of espresso. That's all I got. And I forget, it's been a while since I but I get a long shot of espresso, and I one time the barista, oh, pulled it exactly right. And then after that point, I would just like, wander aimlessly, right, Chase into that high ever since,

12:33

looking for that one repeat time, yes, yeah, yeah.

Collin Funkhouser  12:39

And then every time based being like, sorely disappointed, right?

Brandon  12:45

Your new expectation is so high now that you're like,

12:48

Oh, dang it,

Collin Funkhouser  12:51

because I had a long shot of espresso from a boutique coffee bar in Canada one time, and

12:59

it was now it's ruined forever.

Collin Funkhouser  13:06

Oh, well, oh, well, I don't do that anymore. Just do it, just being clear. I don't

Brandon  13:11

that's good, not

13:14

just like the

Brandon  13:15

best thing you just chase forever, like, I'm just gonna drink so much. Yeah, right. Italians are, of course, laughing at us right now. Why?

Collin Funkhouser  13:24

Fine. That's exactly what you are supposed to do. I thought, yes,

Speaker 2  13:32

yeah, no, yeah, yeah. Anyway, yeah. So what kind of glad you're back

Collin Funkhouser  13:41

and you're, you're, you're, you're, I think you're becoming this cornerstone of the community there at school. I think more and more people will start eagerly looking forward

Brandon  13:53

to this extremely random questions from the sixth grade science,

Collin Funkhouser  13:57

yes, yeah. They never will see you. They don't know, actually, like, where you are in the bill, true, they don't know what I

Brandon  14:03

look like. Oh, is this the weird question guy? Oh, okay, yeah, it's fine,

Collin Funkhouser  14:13

exactly, exactly. And they're just like, I don't know, whatever. And they like, tell their friends, like, yeah, there's this guy sends out these

Brandon  14:20

questions, I don't really Yeah, but true, but I did learn that if you need quick responses to an email, make it about salad dressing.

Collin Funkhouser  14:28

Oh no, you're gonna, you're gonna email half this as far as like,

Brandon  14:32

forward, just yeah, like, also, yeah, just like, Oh yes, I need blah blah blah. Also, tiny dressing is trash. And then blah, blah, blah, I might just see that. Just slip in these subtle jabs to their favorite dressings as they and then they'll then I'll get responded. They'll know they read it like Ha got him. Also, you did read the email.

Collin Funkhouser  14:58

Also, you could just be. Building, like the World's Strangest database of them.

Brandon  15:09

It's true. It's true. I now have french fry preferences and salad dressing favorites, right?

15:16

Like, where do we go from

15:19

here? The world's slowest

Collin Funkhouser  15:23

database, database and file,

Brandon  15:26

only one question per year.

Collin Funkhouser  15:29

Oh, oh, do I have the dirt

Brandon  15:35

brainstorming next year's right? Got to start, to start now, right? Yeah, see if I can top this salad dressing conundrum. Who knows? I don't know what I'm gonna do for next year. But also I keep it figure, if you keep it short and food related, you're about you're bound to get more responses, right like so that's my plan. I figured if I make it innocuous and random, surely people have time to respond with one to two words to an email.

Speaker 2  16:04

So keep it short. Simple, yeah, keep it short.

Brandon  16:10

It is, is panic inducing when you have to send an email to a bunch of teachers because they are very judgy, right? So you cannot spell anything correctly. Otherwise they'll just be like, actually. So do you know how panicked I was to send an email that had the word vinaigrette in it?

Collin Funkhouser  16:31

Like, how many times did you

Brandon  16:35

at least? Three? At least?

16:38

Oh, God, this is right. Yeah, being like, like, oh no.

16:53

All the dictionaries

Brandon  16:56

exactly, looking at the website like, okay, looking up online, okay, there it is, there, okay, going over and over and over, make sure I didn't screw it up.

Collin Funkhouser  17:14

Sounds like sounds like me. Whenever I send an email to clients, and I'm just like, I'm supposed to be professional. You pay me a lot of money to take care of your pets, I need to,

Brandon  17:23

like, really, if they don't pay you a lot of money to spell. So it's fine, like,

17:29

no, but also,

Brandon  17:37

oh yeah, I catch, I catch spelling mistakes. So we're fine. All good, yeah, I am not good at spelling all the kids always ask me, like, how do you spell this mic out? No idea.

Collin Funkhouser  17:49

Let's look it up. Let's find out. Because I am not good at that. I spelled all the words wrong in school. So, you know,

Speaker 2  18:02

whatever look where I am, yeah,

18:06

teaching science where it's like, yeah, we can abbreviate everything, right?

Collin Funkhouser  18:10

Oh, yeah, no. I got in a real bad habit of, especially in science writing, of not using the word the to declare to like, get through sentences, yeah, that's kind of weird stuff,

18:25

like abbreviating everything with chemical symbols and math mutations.

Collin Funkhouser  18:33

I have not, I have not used the word carbon and ages carbon. Yeah, right, absolutely. No. I use the little delta symbol anytime I'm like, and I need to change this.

18:47

Just see, there you go. I did. I did.

Collin Funkhouser  18:52

When I was writing up an SOP for dog in cat body language, I was talking about them having a reaction to certain movements.

19:03

And I wrote just like rxn, there you go. That's fine. You don't figure it out. People

Brandon  19:14

bad. We, although you can't take this slightly too far when you have to bring other people into this, it's pretty annoying. We a couple superintendents ago, we used to have to have staff meetings, right? And we talked about like, procedure and stuff, and they would put out chart paper on the walls, and they made what he called a plus delta chart, right? So you had to write either things that were positives, like things that were going well, or things you needed to change. It was just like, so annoying to have to do that all the time that it was like, a T chart, right? And it was like, on this side was the plus, this side was the Delta, and all the time he would just refer to it as the plus delta chart. I was like, do.

Collin Funkhouser  20:00

Come on, it doesn't doesn't sound as cool when you say it out loud,

Brandon  20:06

really, does? I bet that sounds really Yeah, I didn't think that. I was like, I bet that sounds really cool in his head. The second you say that out loud, it's like the cringy scene of all time, right? Dang it.

Collin Funkhouser  20:20

But I'm kind of committed, so we're just gonna lean in.

Brandon  20:24

Yeah, that's kind of what it felt like. So it's a bit you can go too far can go,

Brandon  20:38

yes, that's my week. What have you

Collin Funkhouser  20:42

been up to, we have had, it's been this week. Was the last week?

20:48

Oh yes, we

Collin Funkhouser  20:54

it's this is, this is the weird, the weird time of, of of the year where I'm not like, we're not, like, super busy with like, businessy things, but also people are coming out. For some reason, I have had like 14 potential clients reach out to us in like, the first eight days of the month, which is not normal. Is awkward. Yeah, very awkward. And we've been doing, like, client meetings and all this stuff, so it's been really busy from that side. But there's, like, hardly any visits. Plus we had two clients who had some emergencies come up. And so like, every day I was calling them to be like, do you still need us tomorrow? And they'd be like, Yes, I still need you tomorrow. Okay, well, I'll add them. Do you still need us tomorrow? Like it was like, every No, that's awkward, too

21:49

here. Well,

Collin Funkhouser  21:50

one of the guys, okay, here's your PSA helpful tip, everybody, don't ignore your kidney stones, because you can get blood infections from those.

22:02

Ah, from those ah, uh huh.

Collin Funkhouser  22:09

And that was, that's fun. And then, like his his heat pump,

Brandon  22:15

that is not the correct word, no.

Collin Funkhouser  22:19

But also this client, like we walked in and our staff member was like, yeah, the his air conditioner is making this weird noise. And she sent me a video, and I was like, That is bad. Turn it off. And she sent me a video, and she's like, the thermostat thinks it's 92 degrees in the house.

Brandon  22:37

And so like, Oh no, I did have to ask, like,

Collin Funkhouser  22:40

is it 92 degrees in the house? And she said, No, I'm in a coat, and I'm like, and so

22:48

the thermostat was

Collin Funkhouser  22:49

calling for heat, sorry for calling for air conditioning for like, all night, and nothing was happening. Like, all night. It was frozen. The compressor was locked up, and it was just like, so I'm over there, like, pulling on levers and trying to disconnect it and all this stuff, and contacting the client who is in hospital with blood infection, calling emergency contacts. It was grand, let me tell you, it's grand. And then he's like, Oh yeah, I've been gone for so long now that my massive saltwater tank is going to need some maintenance. I'm like,

Brandon  23:25

Hmm, we don't do that.

Collin Funkhouser  23:29

My team doesn't do that. Okay?

Brandon  23:31

Like, I all that is true. You do have experience,

Collin Funkhouser  23:35

and we have done this before, back of the woods, right? Yeah. I'm like, Well, I guess I'm Dustin on deck. Yeah, on deck here. So having him walk me through he has, he's built this, like, massive RO system in his basement, which is fantastic. Geez, yeah, it's amazing. And so, like, taking care of that, and take care of some other stuff that came up. And, you know, it's just like, it's been weird. And then train somebody on Adventure hike this week, which was good, because we've had trouble. People get very excited about this. They're like, Oh, I love hiking. I love walking dog. I'm sure I'll love hiking dogs for three hours. JJ, consistently been Jay, I actually do not like that. Collin, which is, which is fine, which is why we do this, right? I don't just throw people at this. I yeah, I hike with them. We talk about stuff. I observe how they're acting. I observe how they're handling the leashes. Because the other thing that we do is we don't hike with standard six foot leashes. We have the big. Long thing, yes, long lines, yeah, yeah. Long lines is weird, and it's just different. And so trying to gage, how is this person going to handle this, keeping the good pace, taking good breaks, monitoring how things are going, all this stuff, like it's it's an ordeal and a half, and so I'm like, out there, the guy at the end was like, damn, this is great. How many of these do you do a week? And I'm like, more now that you're happy about it. Okay? The real

Brandon  25:35

question is, how many of these do you Let's

Collin Funkhouser  25:40

go, because it's been solely dependent on me doing these are true, yeah, marketed or advertised or pushed these at all. We just take the existing clients who find out about them randomly while they're scrolling, and ask about them. Like, okay, yeah, that's what we're doing.

Tori L.  25:57

I can't, I can't do all these

Collin Funkhouser  26:00

and so, yeah, no, that's a lot, right? Like, okay, so now we've got this, we've got equipment all set. We're good to go. Now we can actually start doing so that was a good, a good highlight to this.

26:14

And then, and we

Collin Funkhouser  26:17

did the Megan had her LASIK done. She had eye surgery. Oh, yeah, that's right, yeah, so that was, Oh, that was fun. She's recovering from that. Had a lot of those talks of, like, you, if I like, this is a big deal, right? It's on the eyes. So, like, something goes weird. What do we do, right? Like, okay, well, yeah, fine. And it was fine. And the thing was, is that they said, Okay, your appointment. Could get this ready. What would you think if a surgery center said your appointment is from 11 to one,

Brandon  27:01

that Oh, dear. So this is gonna be one of those things where I did there. It's different when I think, right. So I would imagine, if they say it's from 11 to one, that you should think whether a normal person would think that it is. You get there, it starts at 11. It takes until one, right? That's not what a man did it? No, no. It was like you will be seen sometime between 11 and one. Yes, yes.

Collin Funkhouser  27:33

We're gonna be there between eight and two. Yes. This was, this was our operation window. Is what this was, people, yeah, and so we were the first ones to show up. Like, so they do, we've learned they do cataract surgeries in the morning, and then they do LASIK in the evening, in the afternoons. And I Okay, okay. I wonder if this is because, like, cataracts are more intensive than what they're doing or something,

Tori L.  28:04

probably, right? Probably, yeah, that's a good guess. We're gonna go with that great. And so

Collin Funkhouser  28:14

we show up, and we're the we're the first ones there, and I we check in. And the other thing that they said was, when we did the initial consult and everything, they were like, You must bring this paperwork bill out at the time of your surgery. And we were like, Okay, we will, don't worry, we'll remember. We almost forgot it. We did it. Okay, guys, we're holding the paper. Nice. Megan gets called back at 1126, geez. Okay. She gets called back. I have the paperwork in my hand. I'm like, okay, they're gonna ask us about the paper. I'm I'm like, plugging stuff into my laptop. I've got a lot of work that I've lined up to do. Okay? I've got calls to make. I'm doing some paperwork, I'm filling out business licenses, I'm getting connected to their Wi Fi. I'm going to be like, super, mega productive, because Megan's going to get out one o'clock, and then we're going to go to lunch. It's great. At 1136 Collin, she's being taken back. She'll be done in about 10 minutes. You should probably go get the car. So I like stop everything immediately. And I said, Oh, I've got this paperwork that we were told to break. And they said, Oh, she signed a different copy back there. What?

Brandon  29:52

This is exactly how I

Collin Funkhouser  29:55

don't know where they did it already is, but I. Bro, TWICE, TWICE. We stressed about this. It was it the car the night before, when we left, we almost, then didn't bring it in. What? And so I go get the car, and I'm sitting there, and I'm just like, What? What has happened? What is time? I don't know. Oh, and the other the other thing, the other thing, it was great. When Megan went back at 1126 he said, and I want mcallisters When I'm done, I was, like, awesome. I'll make it for 115 Megan said, No, I don't want to be cold. Make it for like, or I don't mind if it's cold, so make it for like, one, and even if I'm a little late, it'll be fine. And so at 1136 when they said she'll be out in 10 minutes, yeah, you're like, so I had, I had ordered it through the app so that I had to call them right? And I'm like, Yo, can you check your screen? I think there's my name up there. I don't need that at one I need that now. And also your drink selection didn't allow me to say no ice in the sweet tea, so please also put no ice.

Brandon  31:07

Oh, dear. I bet they loved that. That was our favorite thing of all time, wasn't it?

Collin Funkhouser  31:12

Was I need this rushed and please do this different thing for me as well, which we all know restaurants love it.

Brandon  31:21

They do love that, right?

Collin Funkhouser  31:25

Exceptions you make them to Yeah, yeah.

Brandon  31:27

The more highly specialized you make the thing, the more they

Collin Funkhouser  31:31

love it. They do this, just a fact, stare in this to serve people, and

31:35

this is what, yeah, right, yeah.

Collin Funkhouser  31:39

So I've got to get that. And I'm just like, What on Earth the only thing I anyway, we get her in, and she's she's fine, she's great, and doing eye drops, and everything's going well. But, like, I'm stuck on this paperwork because they were really, like, it was in the console, face to face with the people. It was in all the other paperwork in the folder they sent us with. It was like a giant, basically a giant pulsating arrow, like, do not forget this. And then we show up with it and our folder, and they're just like, Ah, no, she's got another copy. I don't know. Like, is this one of those, like, green Eminem things of like, if you have you heard the story, like the green Eminem's,

32:27

I don't know that. No, I'm not sure.

32:33

Let me

Brandon  32:35

I'm, I don't know. Okay, hold on. I'm very confused now, like, is it is I'm what? You know. I think I'm lost. I don't I know that some people swear that Eminem's taste

Speaker 2  32:48

different and that this isn't true. No, but okay, no. Um Van Halen, okay. Rock Band, okay.

Brandon  32:56

Follow me. Oh yes, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, yes,

33:00

for our for our listeners,

Collin Funkhouser  33:03

the there's story goes that this is the green Eminem writer. All bands would have a writer about like their preferences for what they wanted and how things were to be done. It Van Halen had a clause demanding that a bowl of Eminem's with all the brown ones were removed, right? And I think so i got this box. This is the brown whatever. They didn't. They wanted all of the brown Eminem's removed from a bowl of them. And what they would do is they would walk into the green room, they would look at the bowl, and if it had brown Eminem's, they'd walk back out and, like, cancel their show.

Tori L.  33:42

And at first glance, this makes

Collin Funkhouser  33:45

you think like they are being snobbish and whatever divas. But actually, because their rock production at the time was, like, highly technical, and that had a lot of safety issues and concerns. What they realized was it was about the care of the show prep people and the in the venue reading through because they knew, Okay, if you didn't remove the brown M M's, you didn't set up the lights

Brandon  34:19

or the fire, like, what else didn't you do? Yeah, it was like a it wasn't that they wanted, like, they didn't want the brown Eminem's. It was like, to make sure that you actually read the whole thing, right? That's kind of what it like. Did you actually read this? And did you actually go through and do the things that we asked you to? Yeah, it's like, a kid's like, a catch, right? Like, ah, a trap.

Collin Funkhouser  34:39

It's a trap. Yeah, yeah. It's like, you also see this with companies who they'll, they'll send different memos out to different groups within their company to announce like product releases or upcoming initiatives, so that when a memo gets leaked to the press, they can, oh. Yeah, that language was only used in memo, you know, version two, and that was only sent to five people. So one of those five people is leaking to the press, like, this is well known anyway, like they have this stuff in there. And so I'm wondering, was this piece of paper, the brown Eminem that if we walked in and didn't have it, they would know we didn't read any of the other instructions. And maybe, like, I don't this is, this is where my brain is going as I'm sitting waiting for my wife to get the car. But I'm just like, what, what? Why? Why this piece of paper like this, and even, like, even after the fact, Megan was also like, had me sign a piece of paper, like, why I had it? Like, what is going on? I'm like, I know they it was, I I'm fully convinced that this is a technique to see if patients are doing their homework and feeding

Speaker 1  35:53

it could be, it could be, right. It could be, I don't know

Brandon  36:01

that was stinking sneaky eye doctors, what are you doing? Doctors, exactly that was, that was our week.

36:11

It was

Collin Funkhouser  36:13

not it was busy, but also, just like, weirdly busy. It was the last week because we have, like, Monday and Tuesday. I did love venture hike on Wednesday to train, and when I'd have to do that, like, it's two hours down, it's three hours on the ground and it's two hours back. So like nothing happens, like, oh yeah, today, and then the next day was eye surgery, and then we're here today. Like, Whiplash galore. You I, you know, who was also experiencing some sort of whiplash carriage ride, maybe carrot ride, and

Brandon  36:55

true and chapter 21 kind of Yes, yes.

Collin Funkhouser  37:00

That was weird. Man's Pip, and some weird expectations that are not being met.

Speaker 2  37:05

Is our friend. Pip, yeah. Pip, yes, hooray. Pip, you've been saying that one. Haven't you

Brandon  37:15

saving that one? Thought about that one a little while. My train meme, I say, and save sitting around for a while that was shocking. That was

Collin Funkhouser  37:21

shockingly fast, by the way, I was just, okay, okay, fair. Oh, my goodness.

37:33

This is another one where it

Tori L.  37:36

feels like purely by accident, the way

Brandon  37:41

that we've decided to chunk this book up to read it is that there's one chapter that is like, obscenely long for kind of no reason, and then, like, the other two chapters are like, fine, and sometimes one of them is like, really short. Like, that's what it's the way that we accidentally are doing this, which is good, because I don't think I can handle two of these, like, obscenely long chapters back to back, but, like, there's always one. It's like, just hugely big, and that is chapter 19, right? Like, for, again, I'm not entirely sure. Well, okay, but here's now. Now, the problem is now I'm on my toes, right? Old Charles here has got me, like, on edge, because, like, kind of the way that this book is working, it's very cyclical, right? Like, you'll just, like people, just like, walk by a random person at some point, and then they show up a good leader to be, like, a really important thing, right?

Speaker 2  38:50

Oh, the so. So now, when we're at the lawyer's office and there is all these, like, random people around, I'm going which one of you was coming back, right?

Brandon  39:05

Because we passed Mr. Yeager on the stairs, right? Just like someone the stairs one time, and now he's like a big thing, right? We saw spoilers for chapter 21 again, that is another returning character, right? Our we've got this cyclical pattern with this mysterious convict thing happening, right? We have all these people. They're just like, keep showing back up, right? And they're always introduced first as, like, just like, a random event, kind of inconsequential, again, like Mr. Yeager is like, he just, like, walks by him on the staircase, and now he's sitting in his office in the middle of London, doing all this crazy so, like, as this scene is playing out, and we have PIP coming to the office, and we have him, like, waiting around for him to come back because he's in like, court or whatever, he's indisposed at the moment, there are all these other characters around. Also wanting to see the lawyer. And so my brain is going, who? Who are we gonna see again? It could be one or two. Could be nobody, I don't know, but I'm like, on edge now, like, is he you're gonna see you? Is it you? I don't know.

Tori L.  40:21

It's yeah, that's all I was thinking about in this weird capture, right? It goes in, it does all this stuff. It's very strange

Collin Funkhouser  40:37

you're right the whole time, because it's like, it is a big world. And the way he introduces characters is either shockingly suddenly or like they were passed by, like, you said, like, it is, yeah, and I know, like, I literally said, nothing new to what you I'm not adding to anything here, but it, it is a different like, there's no build up, there's no even, like, it's just everything's on the table, yeah, when you're doing this, and with PIP being in so much motion right now, as

41:09

true, a lot like, it does feel kind of,

Collin Funkhouser  41:12

and I guess it kind of, kind of head spinny, is that? Because that's what PIP is going through right now as well. Of like, okay, like here in what we started? We started in chapter. What 19 right? Did I get this right? Is that right?

41:27

I don't know. Did I what did I do here? Did I read the wrong one?

Speaker 2  41:34

Oh, no. Or did I not read enough? I should? I don't know.

41:40

I own

Speaker 2  41:44

Hold on. I thought we left. Oh, you know what? I think I made what we read a chapter anyway. So wait, we started on chapter 20, didn't we? Or 19? Or maybe I did. Maybe I messed up here. Maybe I did. Maybe I have my bookmark in the wrong spot here, because I don't remember him talking about his drive to Britain in the carriage. Did we talk about that last Oh no, I think totally messed up this. Uh, no, because we ended. Oh no, maybe I did too. Why am I in the wrong spot? Oh man, we ended on chapter 21

Collin Funkhouser  42:22

we did for this reading. Or did we start on chapter 20? Oh, no, no, I didn't reread this.

Speaker 2  42:35

Maybe I reread something on accident because I thought we had last left with

Collin Funkhouser  42:41

PIP float in the pipe, floating up as as he was in the window. And then we were going to start in chapter 19. We really should look if we could record this, that would be really helpful here. Okay, so did you? Did you start on. You start on. Chapter 21

Brandon  43:02

I don't know what I've done. Hold on.

43:06

I think I

Collin Funkhouser  43:11

because we definitely did not talk about Mr. Weck. That is 100% true.

Brandon  43:22

And chapter 20, hold on here. This is

Collin Funkhouser  43:26

he was writing in the stagecoach. But chapter 19 was him going into, like, all of the shops and people like being deferential to him because he had come into money and like, or at least that's how he was reading it. Okay, hold on, okay, yes, okay, 15. Then we did 1617, 18, yeah, so last week was 1617, and 18. Okay, so this is 1920, 21

43:59

yes, okay, okay, all right,

Collin Funkhouser  44:02

my notes, also my notes for last week were a bit weird because we did it in person,

Brandon  44:07

and that's true, so it's a little bit wonky. Okay, that's what I thought. But then I thought maybe I forgot to read. It's one of those things where I also read all this stuff, like a week ago, and so I'm like, Ah, yeah. So, okay, okay, okay, okay, so we did all right, so we'd have, because, yeah, all right. So we're okay.

Collin Funkhouser  44:30

I jumped ahead earlier. A little bit. I jumped ahead earlier. What you said is still true, and we still see that in chapter 19 here, although I'm about to leave this town setting. However, I don't know, I don't know who we're talking to connection or what random connections are going

Brandon  44:46

to have. Yeah, I was thinking mostly about chapter 20. I think, yes,

Collin Funkhouser  44:50

chapter 20. Spoiler alert, there's so many things happening, things right happening, people talking, going to hear like that gets a little like, ah.

Brandon  45:00

Yeah, that's true. That's what I was thinking about. I forgot about chapter 19 a little bit. And I think that's because it's like, all of a sudden at the end of chapter 19, there's like a this is the end of part one. You're like, what I didn't know? There's parts of this book. What are you talking about? What's going on, right? And I think that kind of threw me for a loop here, and messed me up a bit. But, yeah. So anyway, rewind back to the lawyer's office. In a minute, we are getting ready to leave, right? We're getting we haven't left yet, and he's he is saying his final goodbyes and spending his last days in the village, and it's really awkward. And this chapter, right? This is, this is another chapter where you're like, man, Pip sucks. Like, this,

Speaker 2  45:55

terrible, right? So he, like, he does all this stuff, and he, he does a,

Brandon  46:01

like it just like the way that he talks to people, and it doesn't help that, like you said, like he now

Tori L.  46:10

is sort of going about and sort of playing what he thinks,

Brandon  46:18

having some means is like, right, yeah. And he's just like, Oh, yeah. Here is my, you know, blah, blah, blah. That's where he, like, buys the clothes. Is that right?

Collin Funkhouser  46:30

Is that this one? He's buying the clothes where he comes in. And at first I was like, Where is he says, oh, first, I do have to say little foreshadowing. Here he is going out in his clothes. He goes with Joe. He feeling, he's feeling so good that he goes with Joe to church. And I love this phrase where he says, with all the novelty of my emancipation on me, because they they burn the documents of his indentures. Yeah. He says I went to church with job and thought perhaps the clergyman wouldn't have read that about the rich man and the kingdom of heaven if he had known all basically, yeah, I think he was feeling a little hot in his seat around this little allegory that's talked about the rich man getting to heaven and the dangers of this, because he's like, Well, I'm obviously a rich man now, and this is uncomfortable for me to hear. Yeah, I don't

Brandon  47:24

want to hear about that stuff, right? Like, it's fine, but yeah, so yeah, go ahead. His interaction with Joe is also very awkward and like, weird, like, it's Joe's kind of, like, indifferent about everything. And, you know, Pip is kind of acting all big and stuff. And Joe's basically like, I don't

47:41

care. Shut up. Like, I stopped, yeah, and

Brandon  47:45

this chapter, yeah, that's why I think I forgot about this, because this chapter feels like two chapters, because so much stuff happens, because it's so long, right?

47:53

Then he does and goes

Brandon  47:57

shopping, right? And then he like, he goes in, and the store owner is like, Don't pay any attention to him, right? Like, whatever. And he's like, Oh, well, I actually have this, and I'm gonna pay for it and I want to do this. And he's like, Oh, yep.

Collin Funkhouser  48:22

He comes out, and he's like, bossing the guy around. And he's also like, working on finding different kind of material, and talking about, oh, this is all the rage, and people will do this. And I think later, he's also just like, Oh, and don't forget about me. Like, I know you're going to London and you won't be buying from these kind of places, so, but yeah, maybe stop by every now and then and

Brandon  48:46

purchase from me. Like, oh boy, yeah. And he like, he does observe the change that comes over the shop owner, and he finds it, yeah, interesting. He talks about how this is his first real brush with what this world is like, because when he walks in, like, he is kind of dismissed, and he's like, whatever, blah, blah, blah, and then he talks about how he can see the change pass over the shopkeeper, and how he like, jumps up to me, do me a favor

Collin Funkhouser  49:20

of stepping into my shop, right? Yes, be an honor. You could Exactly.

49:26

And then

Brandon  49:28

after that scene, after he does all of his shopping, he does go and this, like is repeated, but in a worse and just a very odd way, with the old Mr. Pumblechook, right? Why? Because he did this. This was so annoying, so much now, right? Because, because in the whole rest of the book, pumblechook was he's always talking down to pip, talking about what a terrible miss. Green he was, and like, how he's a terrible child and how he should be so lucky that his sister brought him up by hand and blah, blah. And he mentions that here again somewhere too. But like, he keeps, like, shaking his hand and saying, If you will allow me dear sir. And he like, keeps getting him, like wine and like getting him more food. And he just shakes his hand goodbye about 80 times, and it's just keep Collin Pip, my dear friend, and it's like sucking up this happening right now. Oh, it is so awful. It's awful. And the port

Collin Funkhouser  50:36

where Mr. Pumblechook is talking to him about the business venture all of a sudden,

Brandon  50:41

yeah, oh, yeah. If only there could be some capital. You see, just some startup capital blow up, yeah.

Collin Funkhouser  50:48

Oh, and the person who supplied, they would, they would need to be, only need to show up and collect their their profits and then leave. Like, yeah, they wouldn't. And PIP said something like, yeah, say, No more. And I was like, Oh, no. Is Pip being like, drawn into this, or is he genuinely being like, stop talking. I don't, yeah, I can't really

Brandon  51:10

tell. You can't really read him. He doesn't really give us a good

Tori L.  51:14

idea about that, right? And it's so it's so

Brandon  51:21

awkward and so terrible.

Collin Funkhouser  51:26

Yes, oh no, opinions, oh yeah. Pip says, he says, Wait a bit, is what he says. And I like, I read that. Like, I don't know if he's Hey easy Now calm down, or if he really is, like, well, you just wait a little longer, then you'll have your investor. Oh no. Like, I Yeah. Plus, with all, like, the wine and stuff going on, yeah, just really, this is weird and not not good.

Brandon  51:52

And then so he goes home, and he's, like, so anxious to leave you, like, packs and repacks his bag, like 50 million times, but it only has like five things to put in the bag. So it's really kind of a sad, awkward scene. And then also, and he has, doesn't have to leave for a couple days anyway, but he's also, he goes, and he's getting ready to leave, and he goes back to pumblechook, and he puts his clothes on, and he's gonna go say goodbye to miss Habersham, right? But we have this very weird line where he says, My My clothes were rather a disappointment. Of course, probably every new and eagerly expected garment ever put on since clothes came in fell a trifle short of the wearer's expectations. But after I had my new suit on some half an hour and had gone through the immensity of posturing with the Mr. Pumblechook's very limited dressing glass in the futile endeavor to see my legs, it seemed to fit me better, like, like, I feel like. I can't tell if this is him being like, Oh, I I expected the clothes to be nicer, but I'm only in the village, and so the tailoring is not going to be up to my expectation. Or if he's looking at himself going like, it doesn't feel like me.

Speaker 2  53:22

Well, I can't, I can't tell which one of those things is happening right here.

Collin Funkhouser  53:29

Well, right because part of this is the previous time that we had seen PIP get dressed up, was when he got dressed up in the ill fitting thing to go to church with Joe. And yeah, towards the beginning, right where he Yeah, like things were weird and his arms were tailored differently, and like he felt very stiff and stuck, yeah. And so I think yeah, like, I kind of thought it was more along the lines of, he was disappointed by basically the fit, finish and feel of the clothes, because he thought that they would have been so much better because he paid so much money for them, and, oh yeah, true pomp and circumstance and things around them. And he was told to get these. And this is the clothes of somebody coming into money, and I'm going to get this now, and he puts it on. And much like those things that you, you know, monitor scroll on the internet, and you get, you know, you start to be envious of that thing. If only I had that, if only I had that, would be better. And he puts it on, and he's like,

Brandon  54:34

Oh, I'm not and, yeah, it doesn't feel good. It still feels weird, kind of just clothes, right? Like, still kind of feels wrong because it's all, like, stuffy collars, really high. Like, yeah,

Collin Funkhouser  54:46

that's kind of what I took from this, just because of how his imagination has been so, like, big up until now, and very earthly of now, they're just close, like, and they're going to be uncomfortable because. Yes, you have to wear a high collar, though, yeah, yes. But then he does, he does go on to see that Miss Havisham, Havisham, and this is a very interesting

Brandon  55:18

this is, this is just more Miss Irish room being an awful human, right?

Tori L.  55:22

Like, yeah, yeah.

Brandon  55:27

Because he goes, and he's like, Oh, hi, Miss Puckett is still here. And he's like, I'm here to see Miss average room. And she is, like, taken aback that this is Pip. She's like, What did? What? What are you doing? What is, what is, why are you wearing that like she's very confused by all this. And he goes, and he goes in to say, Mitch Habersham, and he's like, Oh, shoot. So she takes him in the room, right? And she's like, he goes to tell her, and she like, makes a point to be like, No, No, you stay and listen to this. Right? To Sarah pocket, right he she like, doesn't dismiss her like she wants her to sit and listen to this exchange right where, again, we're playing it weirdly close to the vest, because, again, we don't know the quote. We don't know who the mysterious Ben defector is, right, you know? And so he's like, Oh yes, I have had this good four soon since I saw you last, and I'm very grateful for my time with you. And she's like, Oh yes, Mr. Jagers has told me, and you're going to him tomorrow, yes. And she's like, You are adopted by a rich person. He's like, yes, not named No, right? And so he's like, she's just grilling him on all these questions right in front of Sarah. And then, and then, right, she does slip in the What does she say? She says, she says, and you know that you shall always go by the name Pip, right. You will always keep the name Pip, you know? And he said, Yes, and that was in the stipulations of the contract, right? So, like again, just in case you were not sure if some other random rich person decided to sponsor, right, that is your clue that it was Miss Everton, right? She throws that in there just to, like, a hint, right? Like, you know, it was me, yes, right? I know that you don't know, but, like, it was right, like, yeah. And she does that right in front of Sarah, just, like, smack, like, just slapping her in the face, Yep, yeah. And then it, like, so distressed her, and it was, like, so rude that it says Sarah pocket conducted me down as if I were a ghost who must be seen out, right? Yeah, I said, Goodbye, Miss pocket, but she merely stared, and did not seem collected enough to know that I had spoken.

Collin Funkhouser  58:21

Obviously this was a, yeah, an immense jab, for sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he, he goes back and, like, and he did this,

58:36

what, like a week

Brandon  58:37

before, because he, yeah, it's it, the timeline here is again, iffy. Yeah, yeah. Now those six days which were to have run out so slowly, had run out fast, and we're gone. I feel like all of these the preceding events happened in that week, maybe. And like he thought it was taking forever, and then kind of right here, it's like, oh, it's the end? And I gotta go, right? And so they're up having their Joe and video up having their breakfast. And he's just kind of like awkwardly

59:11

moving around and getting ready.

Brandon  59:15

He uses the word portmanteau about 700 times. All of a sudden we can't say suitcase or luggage or bag. We just, we change it to portmanteau only in this part of the chapter for everything, he just says the word over and over and over and over,

59:33

yeah, and it's very weird.

Collin Funkhouser  59:36

And he's got a bad dream that night too. You can just tell how anxious he is of things, yeah, along the way, and he's, he's, you know, going this way, and that he's chasing things.

59:47

And this, this

Collin Funkhouser  59:50

then leaving was also like, this is the most awkward leaving of all time, because, yeah, he just, he just all, he. Says is, well, I suppose I must be off.

Tori L.  1:00:05

And he turns and, yes, he just walks off, as if it

Collin Funkhouser  1:00:09

was, what do you say? As if it were unexpected. And it just only occurred to me, well, I need to go down. And he just walks away. And then they're throwing shoes at him. And I'm wondering, is this a custom that I

Brandon  1:00:21

I think this has to be some sort of custom, right? Because on the one hand, it makes him happy that they're like, bidding him goodbye in this way, yeah. But on the other hand, he's glad that it's like, really early in the morning, because it wouldn't do for other people to see this like, he can't imagine what a Stella would say, like, CS, and if they

Collin Funkhouser  1:00:42

had done this right at the at the by the coach, right, yeah, like, Oh, could you imagine if other people had seen this, right?

Brandon  1:00:51

And it's, it's very weird. And he, like,

1:00:58

he doesn't show

Brandon  1:01:00

his emotions to anybody, but he has a lot of feelings when he's leaving. Oh, yeah, right. So he says, I broke into tears by the post at the end of the village, right? Lay my hand upon he said, Goodbye. Oh, my dear, dear friend, right? So he's talking about Joe and the village right heaven knows that we need never be ashamed of our tears, for they are the rain upon the blinding dust of Earth overlying our hard hearts. It was better after that had cried than before. More sorry, more aware of my own ingratitude, more gentle if I had cried before, I should have had Joe with me.

Collin Funkhouser  1:01:42

That that, that sentence of the heaven knows we need never be ashamed of tears. Like, yeah, I sat with that one for a while. I was like, true, right? Huh?

Brandon  1:01:54

Yeah, that's a stickens guy, right? Yeah, wow. Like, he'll bore you to death and all sudden you slam me one of those. Where did that come from?

Collin Funkhouser  1:02:06

I know. And here with with PIP, he's like, obviously, this is a reflection on this time later. But, yeah, you know. But he's realizing, like you, you needn't have have hidden those like these are important these, these would have helped you more. You would have had more, you know, encouragement, and you would have had more support. And you would have had more here had you would have just shown these emotions, and it also changes you too, right? Because it would have helped him. While he's crying, he's seeing clearer of of really, what he what was really important to him, yeah, and why he's crying, because it says it's this. They, they wash the blinding dust of the earth. They wash away the stuff that's key, that's in our, in our eyes, that we, you know, that's just there, and he could have seen clearly what he was going through, of what was happening.

Brandon  1:03:08

Well, he's, he was in such a rush to leave, yeah, right. And now he's sad to be going, you know, he was so excited, but now he's leaving everything and the people that actually know, I think deep down, he knows that he's leaving the people that actually care about him, yeah? Because, because of the brush with the shopkeepers, because of the sudden change of attitude of pumblechook, right? He's kind of seeing like, oh, there's a lot of fake people out there, so much so that he's like, talking about as he's traveling through the mist. He's he's like, when he sees, like, the shadow of a person he is. Think it makes him think about Joe. He's like, could that be Joe? Right? Oh, like, oh, that's Joe, right, yeah. Like, and then again, right? Dickens likes to end the chapter with another, like, smack in the face, right? We're we changed again and yet again. And it was now too late and too far to go back. And I went on, and the mists had all solemnly risen now, and the world lay spread before me, right? Like it's kind of like the past, and his old self is disappeared, being swallowed by the mist like blank slate time, right? And now all that rises up to meet Him is new. He's leaving behind everything he knows, even if that is just bitty. And Joe, really, he's leaving all that behind and is blank, like the mist, blank canvas, right? Just sheer, white only. And so,

Speaker 2  1:04:42

yeah, yeah, that's a rough one. Like it is, it is, and especially in the context of, like,

1:04:51

there are times when

Collin Funkhouser  1:04:55

growing, I mean, just growing up can feel like that. Of. Of, I reached that point where my it can feel as though, well, my childhood is, is no longer there, right? It's, it's, and you see these memes pop up sometimes, of like, you know, of what's it? What is it? The the world you long for can never be gone back to of, of of people often, yeah, like,

Brandon  1:05:22

those nostalgia posts where it's, like, the aisles of, like, torza us and like,

Collin Funkhouser  1:05:26

yes, yeah, the world that you're seeking no longer exists. Yeah, it's kind of, what's what's happening here in a pip right? This, and this is obviously, again, this reflection back on but in this moment, this the past is now, like, you said, like, okay, that part's over, that part's over, and it does, it's not it means like it's all gone well.

Brandon  1:05:45

I mean, it also is like the safe and the known are

Tori L.  1:05:48

also gone, right? Comfort is gone, like all that is gone. So, yeah, it's a big,

Brandon  1:06:01

big change, right? And we even signify that, because it would be, then there's just this random footnote. This is the end of the first stage of picks

Tori L.  1:06:09

expectations, yeah, first of all,

Collin Funkhouser  1:06:13

that's a weird way to say in part one. Okay, I just want to say that. But what you see now, and what I hope is this, where this is going is that this is the of pips, first, expectations, what is true first? So we're going to see good thing changing and expectations in life. How is chip pips expectations of life and his road forward going to be different now, because we saw this ends with him getting everything he wanted

1:06:55

in the beginning, right he how he

Collin Funkhouser  1:06:57

longed for more, how he was so excited for more, how he just felt like he was special and needed to go. And he gets this call and his like it's even calls Miss Havisham, his fairy godmother, right? We're kind of ending, albeit on a slightly sad note, but if you stopped here, it's a and all of Pip's dreams came true because he got called off. And now we're going to see what life is like in

Brandon  1:07:23

this expectation. I should raise two thirds of the book left. Got it.

Brandon  1:07:33

Got him so, yes, he immediately his expectations are lowered immensely because it gets to London, and he's like, I It's a lot dirtier than i don't know

Collin Funkhouser  1:07:49

i love this, because he said we Britons had, at that time particularly settled that it was treasonable to doubt our having and our being the best of everything. Otherwise, while I was scared of the immensity of London, I think I might have had some faint doubts whether it was not rather ugly, crooked, narrow and dirty.

Brandon  1:08:09

So nothing's changed. That's good.

Collin Funkhouser  1:08:21

He's even, like, he's even acknowledging that he himself was kind of like, whitewashing the situation in real time.

Tori L.  1:08:32

Yeah, right. Like, he kind of was, he goes

Brandon  1:08:38

out here and he's, he's kind of going through it, and he, he gets the carriage over. And the dealing with the carriage drivers like Chris, he's trying to be like, we have a very like Crocodile Dundee moment, where PIP is like, trying to engage in this conversation. And the London cab drivers like, are you gonna pay me or get out? What are you doing?

1:09:00

Yes, yes. But also he, like,

Brandon  1:09:03

doesn't care. He's like, sure. He's like, are you gonna pay me or what? He's like, Well, surely, like, do it get out my cap? Yeah.

Collin Funkhouser  1:09:11

But also, like, the carriage is also, like, dingy and moldy, yeah, not.

Brandon  1:09:17

And we get to Mr. Jaggers office, and, oh, my days, it's all dilapidated, yes, and like, dark and dingy. And I do do, like, the the office is lit only by skylight. Somehow, I don't really understand what's going on here, like, and it's like a random dude here, just like one out with one one eye, guy in a velveteen suit and knee breeches who's sick, like, wipes his nose and just reads his newspapers, like waiting around that guy. I'll come back in a minute. Mike, oh yeah. Mike, so PIP wait. It's like, you can wait in the office and PIP waits for like, 37 seconds. It was like, Nope, it's too stuffy and dingy in here. I'm gonna go for a little stroll, and it's just still dingy and stuffy outside while I looked about me here and exceedingly dirty everything. He goes by the building the Newgate Prison, and a guy is like, Hey, if you pay me, I'll let you come in here, as you can see, the hanging. And he's like, No, I'm good, bro, watch the court case. Like, no, no, I must. I He like, makes up the things. Like, I would love to, but I have an appointment you see? Yeah, and he pays the guy to leave him alone, basically, and gets out of there. Runs way. He goes back to the office. Nobody's back yet, but there's a lot of other people around right, also waiting to see the lawyer. There's like, groups of people and like, all kinds of stuff. And this part is really weird, because Jaggers comes back, and he, like, addresses them. He's like, You, what are you doing here? I thought I told you that.

Collin Funkhouser  1:11:13

Blah, blah, blah. And, yeah, did you pay? Did you pay? Like, he's asking, like, Did you pay? Did you pay? And it's yeah, one person. He's like, um, what did he person of, oh, he's like, Yeah, I told you not to do like, I told you not to think. I told you not to show up, and I told you I don't want to take your business.

1:11:36

And he's like, it's like, Whoa, yeah. Okay. And

Brandon  1:11:40

then there's one guy that stands out, who, I don't know if this is like a speech impediment, oh, this is an accent. But there's like, a Jewish guy here who is, like, begging him to be helped. And he's like, like, No, you have to help, because this guy said you can help. And he's like, What

1:12:00

are you talking about? Go

Collin Funkhouser  1:12:01

away. In this particular one, Mr. Jagger says, he says, You're too late. I'm on the other way. I'm helping the other guy. Yeah. And so the this character is like, Oh no, I'll pay you more if you'll take our side.

Brandon  1:12:18

It's very weird. It's like, this whole thing. And again, I don't know if this is supposed to be a dialect or, like,

1:12:26

it's like a lisp, is what

Brandon  1:12:27

it Yeah, like a lisp, right? It's what it sounds like, right? Like, Collin couldn't have gone to, yeah, there's, like, that's enough of you. Like, it's a very awkward we're so, we're, we're painting the picture that there's a lot of people that need help. Mr. Yeager is in high demand, whether that's because he's a good attorney or because he has a reputation for, like, getting things done because he's like,

Speaker 2  1:12:53

shifty, I don't Well, I don't really know.

Collin Funkhouser  1:12:58

But no, no, we get back to the office and we got Mike comes back, we figure out real fast Mr. Jaggers, exact character and what he's willing to do, because we have a conversation with

1:13:15

Mike here. And

Collin Funkhouser  1:13:19

basically, I believe what I'm understanding through this conversation is that Mike has paid somebody to lie on the stand. Yes, yes, that is what's happening. And Jaggers. Jaggers, his only complaint isn't he doesn't say, How dare you bring somebody to lie on the stand. He says, Have him pass by because he wants to see, does he look like a pastry chef?

Brandon  1:13:43

Yeah. And he does not like, he's dressed him up in an apron, a little hat, and he's like, where did you find this guy? He's also very drunk.

Tori L.  1:13:52

He's very like, he's like,

Brandon  1:13:54

is he prepared to swear? And he's like, Well,

1:13:59

in a general way,

Collin Funkhouser  1:14:00

he's like, he'd swear to anything. And Jaggers is like, oh my goodness, yeah.

Brandon  1:14:07

He's like, this one is not good enough. Somebody basically, he's like, this isn't good enough. You got to try harder and find something better. And it's like, Wait a minute.

Tori L.  1:14:21

This was yes, yeah. And then he eats.

Collin Funkhouser  1:14:27

Pit makes a point here to say that point out that Mr. Jaggers is he eats standing up, which obviously means like he's busy. He's not gonna take pleasant no pleasantries here, and

Brandon  1:14:39

he does have a weird habit of leaning on chair, right? Yes, he like, he does the I'm gonna put my foot up on the chair and lean on it thing. It reminds me of uh Riker from Star Trek The Next Generation. He does that all the time, right? He's always like leading or like sitting backwards in the chair, like. It's very awkward. Sometimes he, like, does that, and that's what it reminds me of. That's what made me think of it's a very strange connection, I know, but like,

1:15:07

it's fine. Works. It works. It works.

Collin Funkhouser  1:15:11

And he's telling him where he's going to go stay,

Brandon  1:15:15

yeah, he's like, we're gonna go. And it's like, an inn, where he says the word in it's Bernard's inn, and right and

Collin Funkhouser  1:15:21

to whom's to whom's room, is he going to go stay the young Mr. Pocket? Have we?

Speaker 2  1:15:28

Surely, we've never encountered anybody else with the name of pocket. No, never, right, purely coincidence. We've never encountered somebody by the name of pocket before, ever, not in the previous chapter. So thankfully,

1:15:40

yeah, yeah, move on,

Brandon  1:15:42

yeah, yeah, because it's totally not anything happening here. So he goes with the clerk, right? This whimmick guy. And, yeah, this is, it starts out a little bit awkward, because we're also kind of, like, cold and, like, whatever. He's, like, you've been here before, blah, blah.

Tori L.  1:16:02

And then, like, he kind of,

Brandon  1:16:06

right, he again, he says you may get cheated, robbed or murdered in London, but there are plenty of people anywhere who do that for you. Again, sounds like nothing's changed London.

Brandon  1:16:20

But he like, kind of softens up to pivot a little bit like, he kind of was like, okay, because he like, goes to shake his hand, and he's like, Hey, all right, you know, but that's not so bad. Like, kind of

Collin Funkhouser  1:16:30

wimick Again, the world that wimick lives in, when somebody holds out your hand, you're they want something, asking for something, yeah. And we also saw this with with Habersham too, like of she was always expecting people to want something, to want something, yeah, and here PIP is just genuinely like

1:16:51

expressing that. And yeah,

Collin Funkhouser  1:16:53

was there? Was there? I was trying to, oh, there was something. Did we make say something? Like, they all, like, bad things happen to all of them and, like, this weird, like, have there been other pips before coming through this? Am I making that up in this?

Brandon  1:17:13

I don't remember that part.

Collin Funkhouser  1:17:15

Like, oh, that you all, they all get into trouble eventually, or something like that. Maybe I'm Oh,

Brandon  1:17:20

he does say, You'll, uh, because he sucks about, was that him that said that, or was that Jagger? Jagger says that when he's talking about, oh, like, coming back for like, money or whatever, and he's like, Oh, I'll get, you know, I'll be in charge of this, because we make is the guy that dispenses the funds, right? And but Jagger says something like, and if you need extra or if something happens, just let me know. That happens to everybody all the time, right? So it was a weird he's like, I'm sure you'll run on a foul of something at some point, right? He says something

Collin Funkhouser  1:17:53

like that, yeah, Mr. You're right. Mr. Jaggers says, But I shall, by this means, be able to check your bills and to pull you up if I find you out riding the constable, of course, you'll go wrong somehow. But that's no fault of mine. Yeah, and I think you're Yeah, we make says some of the same thing too. But anyway, it was very like, Oh, and of course, you're going to end up, this is going to end up horribly for you.

1:18:13

Like, Oh, okay. But yes,

Collin Funkhouser  1:18:16

wemmick takes him to Bernard's Inn.

Brandon  1:18:18

And, yeah, my depression was not alleviated by this announcement. For I had supposed this establishment to be a hotel by Mr. Bernard, to which the blue boar in our town was a mere public house, whereas I now found Bernard to be a disembodied spirit or a fiction, and it's in the dingiest collection of shabby buildings ever squeezed together in the rank corner as a club for Tom cats.

Brandon  1:18:46

Dang was not good, boss, dang not good, right? The word shabby is tossed around a lot here, like a flat burying ground like that. Yes, it had even the trees were dismal and the sparrows were dismal and the cats were dismal, and the houses were dismal and the mice were dismal, like everything was, the crippled flower pots, the cracked glass, the dusty decay and the miserable, makeshift wild to let, to let, to Let, glared at me from empty rooms.

Collin Funkhouser  1:19:21

Oh, yes, as if, as if no new wretches ever came there and the vengeance of the soul of Bernard were being slowly appeased by the gradual suicide of the present occupants and their unholy interment into the gravel. Oh yes, this

Brandon  1:19:38

is an odd place to be, right? This is like, it's like, those, right? Like, the modern day equivalent, are those, like, rent by the week hotel rooms. They're like, you know, they're kind of all, like, the doors are not on, like, it's not no, well, we, you.

Collin Funkhouser  1:20:00

Yeah, I have to, because then he goes, I have to, he goes on. He really lays this on. After this thus far my sense of sight, while dry rot and wet rot and all the silent rots that rot and neglected roof and cellar rot of raft and mouse and bug and coat near in hand

1:20:18

goes in, right, yep.

Brandon  1:20:22

So funny, but there is a door, right? There is a door with the name Mr. Pocket on it, and so that's where it leaves him, right? And he does. He This is the part where he sticks out his hand, and Weck looks at him. He goes, Oh, to be sure, yes, you're in the habit of shaking hands. I was really confused, thinking he must be out of the London fashion. But yes, yes, yes. And he shakes his hand. He's like, all right, all

1:20:51

right, all right. Oh, so he just sort of sits around

Brandon  1:21:00

because, you know, I opened the staircase window and nearly beheaded myself, for the lines had rotted away and came down like a guillotine. He's looking around, and he's just kind of wait, because they said, the note on the door said that I'll I'm out. I'll be back shortly, but the idea of shortly, Mr. Pocket Jr's idea of shortly was not mine, for I had nearly maddened myself with looking out for half an hour, and had written my name with my finger several times in the dirt on every pane of the window before I heard footsteps on the stair. Gradually there rose before me the hat head, neckcloth, waistcoat, trousers, Boots of a member of society of about my own standing. He had a paper bag under each arm and a puddle of strawberries in one hand, and he was out of breath. First of all, I am unfamiliar with the measurement of a puddle like what I what does that mean?

1:22:05

I don't know.

Collin Funkhouser  1:22:08

I don't know. I don't know.

Brandon  1:22:11

I don't forgot to look. It's a measure. Oh, it's a half gallon. But it this says it's an archaic form you from measuring liquids,

Tori L.  1:22:22

which is not a strawberry, but anyway, it

Brandon  1:22:26

is approximately a half gallon from the word from Old French. Okay, there you go. Boom. Anyway, my

Collin Funkhouser  1:22:33

brain, just like my brain had in my head, just clipped this to pot, and so I didn't even like, I'm going back. I had to rewrite this,

Speaker 2  1:22:39

like, puddle. What? Oh, yeah, say, it says a puddle of strawberries. And I read that and went, what?

Brandon  1:22:46

What does that mean? Like, I was just like, envisioning, like, a, you know, like a little basket of strawberries, like you get the thing, like you get in all the markets or the grocery store or whatever. But, uh, I did, I forgot to look it up before now, but a pothole is apparently a half a gallon of strawberries, so quite more substantial amount than I was originally envisioning when this scene played out, which makes more sense when he's like, I thought you'd but it is weird that he has a whole half gallon of strawberries. He's like, Oh, I thought you would like a bit of fruit for dinner, like boy all, it's a lot of fruit, man.

Collin Funkhouser  1:23:29

And then PIP has a reaction immediately, for a reason that I had, I felt as if my eyes would start out of my head.

Brandon  1:23:38

Yeah, any. And it's funny because Mr. Pocket Jr is just, he's just going on, right? He's just talking, and he's like, Oh, this door sticks. And he's like, putting down the stuff. He was fast, I do like he was fast making jam of his fruit by wrestling with the door while the later bags were under his arm. I begged him to allow me to hold them. He relinquished him with an agreeable smile and combated with the door, as if it were a wild beast. It yielded so suddenly, at last, that he staggered back upon me, and when I staggered back upon the opposite door, and we both laughed, but still, I felt as if my eyes must start out of my head, and as if this must be a dream. And so he's just talking again, and he's laughing and blah blah. He's putting this stuff down on the table, and he's apologizing for the meager furnishings of the lodgings. And he's like, Oh, I hope you like it. And we had to rent some furniture. And I know it's nothing fancy at your expense, right? Yeah, your expense, obviously. And he's like, but I hope if you don't find the table clause agreeable, that's not my fault. They came from the coffee house. Yeah. All this really weird, you know, it is. Lodgings are not by any means, splendid, big, but, uh, you know, because he, he goes on talking about, my father hasn't any i. I have my own bread to earn, and my father hasn't anything to give me, and I shouldn't be willing to take it if he had. And he's like, this is the sitting room and this is the carpet, and it's musty and blah, blah. And then all of a sudden he like, just stops, right? And as I stood opposite to Mr. Pocket Jr, delivering him the bags one two. I saw the starting appearance come into his own eyes as I knew to be in mine. And he said, falling black back, Lord, bless me. You're the prowling boy.

Speaker 2  1:25:35

And you, I said, are the pale young gentleman. Oh, and End of Chapter and scene.

1:25:48

What? What? Kid Kareem with the world?

Brandon  1:25:57

Ah, yeah, I just, I do like this scene, because it's, like, this part is hilarious to me, that he's, he's like, talking, and he's clearly not, like, really paying attention, right? He's like, in a hurry, and he's like, oh, like, he's caught off guard by the fact that PIP is there, because he's like, Oh, I thought, I thought your coach would be later, and blah, blah, blah, and I just, I had more time, and had to go all the way to go all the way to the market because I wanted the strawberries. And he's doing all this stuff, and he's kind of apologizing for the ramshackle nature of their dwelling. And then all of a sudden they do come like, there's a moment where they come face to face, and he's just like, Yeah, and again, he's recognizing him from at least five years ago, maybe at this point, right is this? This timeline adds up somewhere in there, like this was many years ago that they had first encountered each other, well, the only time they encountered each other, and they're just like, random boxing match.

1:26:58

Don't forget, in the yard. Like, that's

Brandon  1:27:04

what makes me think lisping guy is going to come back at some point. Because that was a memorable exchange, right? It was a memorable thing that happened. It was very distinctly different from all the other people that were encountered in the courtyard and outside of the house, outside of the office. So, like, the fact that it did stand out to me makes me think that's why I'm suspicious. Like, is Liz Pink Guy coming back? Is he gonna show up later again? Because we had random boxing match out of nowhere, yes, years ago. And now here is the pale young gentleman, aka Mr. Pocket Jr. And so now we

Collin Funkhouser  1:27:41

know why Havisham was gleeful to do this in front of Sarah. Because, yeah, right, because laid him out well. And I think part of this too is Pip was chosen for Miss havisham's gentlemanly thing, and not this, Mr. Pocket here, right? I think there's part of that too, of of she's, I got the sense that she was gloating over, like, doing this to as a weird, twisted thing to Sarah, because she wanted, yeah, like, I could have

Brandon  1:28:18

done this for your son, but I won't, right, yeah, that's what I got out of this. Like that, yeah. Now, at the end of this chapter, when you look back, that's kind of what you see, right? You're like, Oh, she was really, she was really hammering the dagger in right? She would just

Collin Funkhouser  1:28:34

pound it in there, yeah, yeah. And you see too, like, it's, it's part, it's just like, I don't understand that, and I don't know, maybe that'll come out later in the book. Like, why that is, why she's so gleefully tormenting Sarah potters, right? Like, and maybe it's just because I don't, I have she is a horrible, broken person, yeah, the only joy that she gets is by tormenting people. Yeah, because

Brandon  1:29:04

she's an awful she's an awful, awful person,

Collin Funkhouser  1:29:08

like pale fighter dude here, like, okay, he doesn't seem as down and glower as the other people. Like, he's surely, like, apologizing for the conditions, but he's not like, hiding them. He's just like, Yep, and here it is, and here it is, and here's

Brandon  1:29:25

and we're he does seem to have more optimism to him, yes than everybody else PIP has met in London so far. Granted, that's like four people,

Collin Funkhouser  1:29:33

but yeah, still. And he has that phrase of, I don't have a lot to me, and my father has none to give, so I have to earn my bread. Like he's this, like working, kind of like a working gentleman, is what I'm gonna say, yeah, yeah. He's doing stuff, some stature, something he owns an inn. Maybe I don't know. Who knows what he's doing, yeah? Who really knows? But like, he has this, and yet, like, I. It's just, I'm trying to, like, track, like, okay, pips, interactions in His own hometown, and his views on that, then, like, havishams of like, this frozen, like, like facade of, like, grandeur of whatever, like, but it's really decay, and now he's in London, and it's like, also decaying, and he's in this inn that's also decaying. Like, there's a lot of Yeah, like, what, the reality of what PIP is going for, what he wants, and what stature is actually going to have, versus what, how that plays out in the real world?

Brandon  1:30:35

Yeah, that is true. Because, like, if you think about the I don't know, maybe what Pip's expectations of the situation would be, right? He's thinking about London as like, a big, beautiful city, right, full of, like, grandiose architecture and rich and wealthy people and also, but the side of London that he's seeing right now is like, I mean, I think he probably drove by that part, but the part of London that he is in and been exposed to is, like, ramshackle and Chevy and rundown. So like his, he had an expectation of, like, what is it going to be like to move to London and be in the station, versus

1:31:16

like, Oh, this is where I am right now. Oh, no,

Brandon  1:31:23

this door won't shut in the window trying to chop my head off. Yeah, it is very awkward, like he he left the village. But is he in a better place? We don't know. We just, we don't no idea. No clue. Just got here and he's in a random room with a kid that he beat up possum somewhere between two and eight years ago, exactly. We'll

Collin Funkhouser  1:31:58

just figure it out. Yeah, yeah, this is this. I'm starting, like, again. I keep thinking, oh, we'll figure out the web eventually. No, no, I have,

Brandon  1:32:11

I don't think so many threads right now. Like, I don't know what's happening.

Collin Funkhouser  1:32:18

I'm also, I'm still waiting for the convict to show up and do something, right? Yeah?

Brandon  1:32:24

What's that about? Like, yeah, we have lots of threads that are just sort of like dangling, yeah, you know, we'll see if they ever get woven into a tapestry, indeed. Or if there's just some holes that end up, like, whatever.

Speaker 2  1:32:41

Like, just the mysteries of life, man, sometimes you just never know,

Brandon  1:32:47

right, good. We'll see. We'll see so on edge, seeing what characters are going to show back up later in like five chapters, like, oh, you remember this guy? No, but, but, but all the characters that he does that with, he gives them one. There's something that stands out about characteristic. Yeah, that's why I think lisping guy is gonna compare lisping guy. Probably right. There's my prediction. Okay, yeah, we had pale young gentlemen. This is a big thing. We did have a weird, like awkward description of Mr. Jaggers on the stairs a long time ago, right? And now we have this, like, very like, the lisping guy had the most time spent on describing him in the courtyard right outside of the building, right? Everyone else was just kind of like, oh yeah, they're over there. Well. And then we had this, like, long exchange, lisping guy. So I'm thinking, maybe that's my prediction. Okay, if we have a character that's gonna return at some point, it's gonna be him, Okay, we'll see. I could be wrong. Probably I'm wrong. Who knows, but, like, who knows? He just stood out to me. Oh, I

Collin Funkhouser  1:34:00

did the same thing. I'm like, this is a lot of dialog. Just throw away

Speaker 2  1:34:05

dialog for character we'll never see again. Maybe let us Chuck have up his sleeve, yeah, especially after the Para young gentleman showed back up in this chapter.

Brandon  1:34:16

Like, okay, well maybe, maybe in like nine chapters, this dude will be back again

Collin Funkhouser  1:34:21

and another two to seven years, yeah, somewhere between

1:34:26

two and seven you got it. I see, I see how you work, exactly.

Collin Funkhouser  1:34:34

Oh, man, there we go, go. So try to be chapter 22 Yeah.

Brandon  1:34:42

Next week. 2223 24 right. Okay, there we go. Ingrain it out of my head, making sure I read the right chapters here.

Speaker 2  1:34:54

And I do have a haiku for you. It may require some backstory, though. Open.

Brandon  1:35:00

So here you go. Here's the backstory on this Haiku, right? So we're in school, in my reading group thing. We're reading this book, okay, about a kid who's at a wellness summer camp in Arkansas, right? He is there against his will because he's like, a troublemaker kid, and his dad's like, a rich tech billionaire dude, and he just, like, sends him away for the summer to basically, like, Get out of my hair, get some wellness, so you'll be better, right? So I had the kids, they're like, the camp is like, all vegetarian. They're into like yoga and like wellness and like breathing and like outdoor activities, right? And so I had the kids write letters to a friend, like they were at the camp, right? Oh, and so one of my students was, like, the fact that, like, they keep describing the food, it's just like tofu and vegetables, not like good like vegetarian or vegan food. It's just like, that's what it is. It's like tofu, vegetables only. And so the kids are very distressed by this, and one person in their letter wrote the sentence like she was talking about the food, and she wrote, like, Girl, where's the pizza? And this has become like a running joke in the reading group. Awesome, right? Yes. So sometimes, like yesterday, the other day, I was reading the lunch menu and I was like, Oh, look, I found it. There's the pizza. So this is, this is this has been a running joke since like the beginning of December. Also in the book, the characters are bored, and they steal the mail of one of the characters, sisters that like because they can. There's no electronic devices allowed at the camp either there. So they write letters to each other. That's why I had to write letters in that activity. And the sister and her boyfriend are writing notes to each other like letters, so the kids steal the letter, and they just put random letters like fake acronyms in all the margins to make the sister, like, think that the boyfriend is like, sending her, like, love messages. And so instead of like, being mean to her brother, she spends all of her time trying to decipher the love note, right? Okay, she's like, funny side plot thing. Anyway, one of my students decided that she was gonna put a marker board on the outside of her locker today, okay, and so all of her friends were writing their name on it, and whenever, and I decided that I was gonna be Henri, and I wrote G, w, T, P on the marker board. And so for like 20 minutes, she was like, what is that? And she's very confused. And so my plan works. And she was like, Do you know who wrote that? And I was like, No, I have no idea. And then once I said that, she realized what it meant,

Tori L.  1:38:25

and she thought it was hilarious, right? So anyway,

Brandon  1:38:28

that is the backstory that is necessary for this tycoon, okay, a single question with profound implications. Girl, where's the pizza?

Brandon  1:38:52

Once I figured out that was loud. It was five syllables, I was like, I have to. It's necessary to sign. It actually

Collin Funkhouser  1:39:02

had you not serious, serious couple of issues from this.

Brandon  1:39:12

One requires much backstory. It's deep lore here that is required to understand why this is funny to me.

Collin Funkhouser  1:39:21

What makes it so perfect is it's like, it's just such a specific like, just genuinely narrow band of

Brandon  1:39:32

very, very narrow band. It's very niche hiker. So we have to read it to them on Monday, like, Hey guys, by the way,

Collin Funkhouser  1:39:42

that's way, this is perfect. I love it. Yeah, without the without the backstory, with no context, it makes no sense. I. And probably leaves people more concerned than anything.

Brandon  1:40:03

That's true. It's true, but it's this. This phrase is like, somehow wormed its way into all of our vocabulary. In the reading group, they say, oh, it's like, the biggest inside joke ever. It's so hilarious. They just say it all the time, like, where's the pizza?

Collin Funkhouser  1:40:19

That is how it is to be done. People, yes,

1:40:22

that's good. It's good.

Brandon  1:40:26

I thought I better clarify before I just hit you with the most niche, random, obscure inside joke of all time. I do appreciate. Okay, well,

Collin Funkhouser  1:40:41

on that, on that bombshell. Well, indeed, we'll end there, and we'll do this again soon.

Brandon  1:40:48

All right. Love you. Love you too. Bye. You.