In which Collin survived two chicken fingers. Brandon steps out of retirement. And Pip experiences the Pockets

Snow squalls
Been dry
Audit rate
Two chicken fingers
Repurpose the front seats
Brandon is out of retirement
Frightening the woodwind section
Collin’s haiku

Old friend on thin breath
Miles echo with children’s laugh
idles into dusk

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Ahoy. Ahoy. Why? Oh, boy, what's going on?

Like, can't get my headphones on. There we go. Okay, everything is fine. What's that?

Oh, my goodness, yes. Oh, good. I'm glad. Glad you have everything is well, and your headphones are fitting appropriately.

That's true, and trying not to become frozen.

So let me I'm gonna tell you today I had a dog walk at,

oh, that is terrible. I'm sorry. Was it two?

The real feel while I was out walking was negative seven. Ah, it was gross. It was and so we had to go to Springfield yesterday, yeah, that was yesterday, and for a checkup appointment. And it was like, okay, so an honor on our way down. Megan's folks sent us a message, and they were like, hey, just a heads up. This is for later tonight, the weather report was calling for snow squalls. Snow squalls.

That's cool. That's a thing that you can have.

It was a thing. And so, so imagine, imagine us going, hmm, well, we're not going to be out too late then. And like, racing back home to only encounter said snow squalls. And basically it is this intense driving wind and blinding snow. And then, like, so Blizzard, no. And then, like, like, 100 yards later, you're out of it. Oh, you hit it again. And it's like, it was fun. That is very perplexing. Yes, hi, I was not enjoy that at all.

Doesn't sound particularly fun and exciting. That sounds terrible. The only, the only thing it snowed here yesterday was yesterday, yes, yes. It was like 30 seconds of snowing. We were at the window of my classroom open, and it was like, like, oh, look, some snowflakes, and it's gone. Okay, there we go. That was,

did you enjoy it? Okay? Because they're not here anymore.

Yeah, it was nice for the, you know, 30 seconds that it was there. But, yeah, kind of underwhelming. It was just very cold. So that was yes.

Now it has not been today has been today has been miserable. I have not enjoyed a second of the weather. Why have not gone outside today? Yeah, we did go outside a wee bit, but it No, no, no, no, I don't

think it's gonna be better tomorrow either. So just get ready for that.

No better. It's no better people.

Yeah, so yeah, pretty wretched. So it's been hiding inside all day thinking about that. So it's also like a billion kids at school have been sick. So I'm sure this cold weather is not really helping that either. Sure it's been

right, yeah, so, and I can tell our heater has been running a lot more at night, because I wake up in the morning and my nose and throat are just like, Atacama, like it is, yeah, it is not good at all. And I basically spend the first seven and a quarter minutes just being like, I Oh,

great. I don't think we need the sounds. And then I'm

like, have to go, like, have your mouth so dry you don't drink the water. You just, like, hold it in your mouth. Because you're just like, surely something will soak in if I just,

yeah, all right. Like, I gotta absorb it through. Like, yeah, that's, that's fun. I love that. Yeah,

as I take another drink of water,

yeah, true,

yeah. It's been, it's been dry, it's

been pretty terrible. So what else have you done this week, other than freeze yesterday and today or today and oh, probably tomorrow.

Yeah, no, I know I am. I went to, oh yeah, I'll tell you I went to, I went to a chamber lunch, because we joined a new chamber for this year. Well, first off, this is the time of year where I got to send lots of money to all of these surrounding towns buying my business license so that I

Oh, yeah, I'm sure they appreciate that, right?

Yeah, yeah. And it's always like, like, I am not one to lie on these documents, but several of the towns have sliding scales for how much you make determines how much you pay?

That sounds a bit suspect. I want

to know. I like, that's called, yeah, should ask them one day, what's the enforcement on this? Like, like, just be honest. Like, if I were to put I made $1 How would you know?

Like, some men will come to your house, right? And they will, like, how

I understand. They will

have strong Italian accent

and everything. It'd be a shame. So like, would like, I understand if you have, like, like, a lawn crew, and you have 48 trucks that are all around town. Like, someone in the someone from the city, is gonna go, Huh, like, huh, maybe we'll talk to that guy. But, like, otherwise, I don't know, like, I just, I filled out it appropriately and put how much, you know, whatever, whatever. But I'm just, I just, it's one of those things you think about, like, what's this process like, what's the, what's the audit rate for, for these, not that again, not that I did anything, okay? Like, just

obviously, obviously, allegedly, all, allegedly,

nobody would do that. Yeah, yeah. So I filled that out. And that was another thing of you realize how little is required just of anybody for anything like we, we joined the chamber in this other town before we had a business license there, and I thought at some point they would cross reference one another. No, no. They don't care. The chamber does not care whether you

that's very weird.

They don't care if you're operating legally or if you got infections that no, you have money, they'll take it and they'll promote you.

It's kind of weird that you enjoy the chamber without even, like, operating in the area, like, yeah,

no, do they ask? Do you work here? No, no, no, no, don't be don't be so silly.

No, I'd imagine if you're just, if they're just like, Oh, you're gonna give us money. All right, we're not gonna really worry about, like, why or how. We're just gonna take it from you, and then, yes, we're gonna take some more like we're gonna apps,

and they'll take advertising dollars from you. They'll get you on whatever you want, buddy. They'll be so happy for I'm so confused by this. I'm just like, What? What? Ha, why wouldn't you? Isn't there a no, nothing, okay,

just pretty weird.

Like, this is

yet another racket. Oh, like, like, it seems really bizarre to me that you would have to, like, pay to have your business license again every year. Like, that's kind of like property tax. Like, what I I know, I bought it and I paid tax on it, and then I have to pay tax to have it. Like, what is that?

Don't get me started. Don't

whatever you mean. You start. Like you

other thing, the other thing that i Another thing is in Okay, in Texas, when you bought the vehicle, you paid, let me get this straight. You paid the taxes. Then like at the dealer, which is not the case here in Missouri, when you buy a vehicle, you don't pay anything when you're there. You only pay when you go to register the car. And then, yeah,

which is weird, like, which

is, which was unexpected to me when we bought our first car here, because they were like, okay, and now you owe us $2,000 Yeah?

Like, a large amount. Like, wait a minute, hold on. Sorry.

I missed a memo somewhere. If you could just give me a moment to what, yeah, it was a was not good. It's not good.

Almost like there should be a national standard for these things, or that it shouldn't exist. I mean, I understand paying, like, sales tax, I guess. But like, why would you do it at different times? Why would you not understand? Like, why was, why would it not be in the price of the cars when you're buying it? Right? Like, why would that happen? Like, one, one

would think, right. Like one would potentially think, but I, I don't know. So I we went, I went to the the meeting, and it they do these lunches, and they have different places that cater them for each time. And I will say this, they generally do a great job. And what they always do is highlight a different restaurant from around the area, that kind of stuff.

Whoever paid the most business is tax. Wink, wink, right?

Like, was this in kind Oh, oh no,

if you, if you come cater our business lunch, maybe your tax bill is a little light. You know what? I mean? Like, yes, yeah, so

but I will say, in this case, they walked up and they were had it was all, all the not to complain about food again. But unfortunately, what it was was, you walked up and they said, Okay, it's chicken fingers and fries. Would you like one chicken finger or two? What kind of now? What kind of question is that? Who wants one chicken finger? Oh my gosh,

school lunch. What's going on around here

in the realm of possibilities for amount of chicken fingers? I will tell you this, neither one nor two. I mean, was neither.

Yeah, you're right. Neither of those is sufficient number of chicken fingers, but one just obscene, like, who, who's I'm gonna ask my kids on Monday that. Okay, guys, what would you do if someone asked if you would like a chicken finger, they're gonna be like, throw it on the ground. I don't

want not a couple, not a handful, like a singular chicken.

I think there's minimum three, right?

Yeah? Three like it's minimum,

yeah, it's the minimum. Like, if you're, I would imagine, like, if you're, like, I'm thinking about this in terms of, like, an order, like, from a restaurant, right? Like, if you were gonna order, like a small chicken finger thing, it would be, like, three chicken fingers and some french fries. Oh, for sure, it would definitely not be one.

No, nobody would ever order. Now I will say these are, these were kind of larger ish. They're more like kind of hand batter.

It doesn't matter who cares. No. So I stare, not an excuse.

In in disbelief. I started in disbelief, and what I, I just, I said, I'll take I'll take two, I'll take two, and then I did not want any of their cold, cold, nasty fries. So I wonder, I

wonder if taking two chicken fingers like they would have given you less fries anyway, though, like, I wonder if they were like, oh, there's only a certain amount of there's, like, a ratio that must be maintained. Two fingers gets you less french fries. One finger is more French Yeah,

I probably it'll probably, I don't know what'll happen?

I don't know, but anyway, yeah, cold french fries had been sitting on a table. Are not really

it my small, watery sweet tea, and I have my two chicken fingers, and I sat down and started talking to people. This guy next to me, and he's like, what's your name, Collin? Blah, blah, tell my last name. What we do in there. He goes, Huh? That's an interesting last name, huh? He kind of, he's like, thinking. And I'm like, Well, you know, I don't know. That's kind of weird. What do you do? And he was like, Oh, I'm in heating and air. And I was like, Ah, you,

you? I see now, why you have some

you know my dad,

as you've run into my dad, either I'm sorry, or, yep, it was fantastic. He was just like, because he was like, processing, like, Where did the name? Oh, that sound like he was reaching for something. I'm like, Ah, yeah, that's that guy.

Yeah, yeah. I know that guy too.

I don't do so we, we do that and the speaker for this thing, because they always try. What I do appreciate about this particular thing is that they spend a little bit in the front doing community updates. So they'll generally have someone from at the county level, like a commissioner there. They'll have like the city planner there or the mayor there. Sometimes they'll have a superintendent, either like a fire chief or police chief, they'll have something. They'll have a smattering, like four different people reporting about stuff that's going on. I think that this is what chambers need to be doing. And if chambers aren't doing this, it's a big waste. Now, this can obviously go down weirdly, where, if suddenly, like they're, I don't know, racketeering, or pushing the businesses to do something for the county, or whatever, like that. Can go something. But like updating about, hey, here's the sales tax initiative that's coming on at the state level. Here's how we're processing it. Here's what we're doing to save money. Here's blah, blah, blah and like this, the police coming up and giving their police reports and what they're doing for training and all this like this is good, and I think businesses need to be aware of this, and just the community needs to be aware. So I really appreciate this. The other thing that they do is they try and make these lunch and learns. So what they'll do is they'll have a guest speaker, either professional speaker or business coach or something like that, or a marketer come up to talk about something specific. And this was the Speaker was, is the current president of the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame. Okay, now, I don't know if you know the hubbub going on around the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame.

I just seem to recall that there is hubbub surrounding it. Yeah, I don't, I don't recollect what that is, well, but I do seem to remember that there is some nefarity afoot of some sort, yes,

well, one of those things that is a foot is its location. It's moving, ah. So he stepped in, and his background was actually from price cutter. And the reason he was connected to the Mercer, Missouri Sports Hall of Fame is because it was they would do the price cutter open, or the price cutter, whatever,

the golf thing, the golf thing, yeah, he

was the head and spear point of that from price cutter. Well, 2023, something, whatever, the then president of because I didn't realize this, but the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame is a hall of fame, but also it's a massive charity that that raises money and then gives over, like, like, close to a million dollars away every year to charities in the area and around Missouri. Well, he got called by the then president and was like, Hey, we have no money. And the guy at the time was like, Okay, well, you know, you're a nonprofit, so we'll just get through the upcoming golf thing and we'll see how it squares out. The guy was like, No, you don't understand. We don't have enough money to put that on. Oh. And they were like,

long story short, somehow

smells like embezzling. Big charities like that don't often just like magically run out of money, well,

especially to the tune of well over seven figures.

Yeah, that's not Yeah. That smells fishy to me.

Yeah, he was standing up there. So eventually he got tapped to come in and get it turned around. When he stepped in, he said we were well over seven figures in business, in debt. I didn't have enough money, like operating cash flow, to give everybody in this room $1 and I'm he was like, and I'm not joking about that, and it was like, oh, there's like, 104 people in this room. Oh, and they pulled a bunch of sponsors together. They got the 2023 event. Oh no, it was a 2024 event. They barely scrambled that together, but they weren't able to pay like their charities. And this, I didn't know this is that that golf tournament is sanctioned by the PGA. It's, it's actually, didn't

really know that. I mean, yeah, I didn't, I don't think I knew that.

No, it's, it was the PGA. So they worked with the PGA to bring to, like, make it a big deal, and to it's, it was actually part of the stair step and a few of their big things that they do. So it was like, it was an important part of that. You got to see some big players over the years.

That is true. Yeah. I guess there were some big people that came through there. Yeah.

PGA wasn't happy about 2024 they said, Okay, 2025 pull it off. Long story short, on that, by the way, they are no longer doing golf tournaments. Because the PGA was like, We're done with you guys.

No, the same. Yeah,

yeah. So this guy comes in, and he was like, anyway, it was just very interesting, because his mindset is from a from price cutter as a grocer. And he said, I am used to operating on profit margins somewhere between one and 3% he's, like, typically, if we're having a good day, it's, it's, it's like 1.74% profit on on the items that we're working on. So when I'm you say I'm used to working on a tight budget, like, this is,

yeah, right. Like, for real,

yeah, they were so extreme, as far as, like, their operating costs, that like to just try and keep their heads above water. They wouldn't turn on any lights in the building. They wouldn't use the elevator because he said, A, I couldn't pay for the electricity. And B, if it broke, I don't know where that money's coming from to fix that thing. And so, like, he's like, grinding this down, and they get to the point where they're like, What do we do with this building? Because it had been neglected for years. And he basically said, There's no way that we can keep this and so part of his talk was doing things that are unpopular, to stay on mission. And it was, it was very interesting to hear how he walked through this, like, at every step I had to, like I was just like, it's cutting, cutting, cutting, because I we have no budget. We have no money. I don't care about a building. What am I paying for the electricity for that building? Like, what do you even mean and how it was, you know, the people in the community were like, You are disgracing John Q Hammond's idea and this legacy, and what a horrible person. And I'm like, well, first off, if you know nothing about Josh. It's like he was

not exactly like a nice dude, right?

He was the epitome of, yeah, I'll give you a bunch of money for this, but I will give you nothing to upkeep and maintain it.

Good luck. Yeah, right. Like, Oh yeah, we'll build it, but tough till the winks after that, like,

all he did. So like, come on anyway. So we he finishes his talk. And it was, it was interestingly received, because there are people in there who, like, knew him really, really well, and other people who, I think were a little bit more on the other spectrum of like, you should have kept the building Hurrah for rum for rum. But like, what do you expect? So anyway, so that was, that was my lunch, my very small lunch of my two chicken fingers, which I ate sad in his the first three sentences of his intro, I was like, well, I'll just nurse this watery sweet tea for next 23 minutes.

Like so sad. Yeah.

So that was, I think that was my highlight of this week. I really, really didn't do a whole lot other than that. Yeah, I have, I'm just, I just pulled up my calendar. I do have on Wednesday at 330 I did try and take a nap. So that was,

oh, well, there you go. That's good. You had to little worried that you had to calendar that one. I don't know.

I mean, it sounds like I didn't do anything this week. My calendar was so it

was either it was either really good nap, or you didn't have any time that you had this calendar. That's really the only choice.

I really had to, like, just like, squeeze that in, because it was like, this is not happening. Otherwise, I need to make it known that this is what's happening. This is what I'm going to try and do this, and we'll just see what takes place. So that's fair. I'm looking for looking ahead to, oh, at my last thing this week. So we have our 2005 honda accord that we've had for coming up on 10 years

long time, obviously.

And it is it, is it is it is a, it is going into limp mode. And this is, oh, no, this is, this is hard.

And hanging on, yeah, is

hanging on. And it's starting to, it's to that point where, like, you turn it on, and for whatever reason, you know, the engines, like, really, like, clackety when it should be real smooth and, like, whatever, it's just, it's, it needs tuned, right? But I'm like, I don't starting to have those discussions of how much more right goes into this thing. Like, how much, really? And especially, yeah, you know, you start having to, it's coming up on, like, 200,000 miles, and which is fine, and, and like, Okay, we got to do control arms and the bushings, and we got to do this. So we got to do that, and we've got to make sure we do this. Like, stay it's like, oh my goodness, we're just starting to feel this. And so having those conversations around moving on is hard for some involved.

Maybe me, yeah, we say some, I know it's not make it. I know that

when you put it like that, yes, it definitely kind of narrows, narrows down who it could be, yeah. So this has increased my and made me more intense and fervent about finding ways

Facebook marketplace now,

to Well, I mean that and

that, but also,

but also, how to repurpose the front seats of the car.

Oh, okay, yes, I'm just feeling like deck chairs, right? And can you just whip them out and then attach it, build a base and attach them to the base, then you just have some chairs for the porch, right? Totally, Don't be weird at all.

Or, or office chair.

True, office chair, right? Chair?

I'm thinking office chair. I'm also thinking the other other thing is, yeah, but just how to what to do with these. And because one of these seats is very it's very sentimental, obviously it was going to go

true point, right? Like,

oh, trying to figure out, how do we save one and or both? And then I had the thought, because this again, I had the thought of, what, how do you make a car just disappear? And I got to be honest, I'm coming up on 40 in a couple years, and I'm like, I've never thought about this.

Oh, well, that's true. That's fair.

Like, what do you? How do you? How does a car just like, stop existing to the world.

We've had do that before. And I can't really, like, it was just one of those, like, Oh, there. But there's a guy who will come and just, like, like, one of our cars when it just, it finally, just, like, collapsed. We, like, a dude came and just put it on the trailer, and he just took it away, like, they just took it to, like, for scrap, or whatever. Like, that was it, like, Here go. Like, and so he just came and picked it up from the house. I remember it was like, somebody that we knew it was, like, a, like, it was one of those, like, oh, well, we know that, like, this friend of ours, like, knows a guy who, like, takes care of these things, right?

Like, yeah, yeah. And this is, that's exactly what I found. Is basically you call a junkyard. They come over and either there is or isn't an exchange of money, and either you do or do not give them a title, and then you call your insurance agent and say, Oh, I don't have this one anymore, and it goes away.

Yeah, that sometimes they'll pay you for, like, oh, it will get this, like, it weighs this much, so, yeah, you can have this many dollars. Like, it's not a lot of dollars, but it is some dollars.

Well, Megan was like, she's like, why would they, why would they pay you for it? And I was like, well, because they're gonna turn around and they're gonna part the crap out of this thing.

Yeah, they, yeah, the money comes from, like, oh, this. I'm gonna sell the door panel or the mirror and then the quarter panel and the hood, right? Like that, yeah, but they have to hold it for a long time in order to recoup the money from that, right? So in so they give you, like scrap weight money, and then they just set it at their place. And then over a many years between, yeah, somewhere between two and 12 years, they will, they will get money out of it, right?

Like, and as soon as I told Megan, like, Oh, they're gonna part it out, of course. What was her first thought, well, could we do that?

I mean, and I say no, no, we don't have somewhere between two and 12 years to sit with a pieces of a car in a driveway. But like, if they have like a business, they'll either have a business with just a lot in the back that just has like skeletons of cars, or they actually have a junk yard, yeah, which is just like, full. Have you ever seen one? It's just like, rows and rows and rows and rows are just like, whatever. They just drag it out there and set it Yeah. And then if somebody needs a piece, they're like, yeah, it's over in that row. Good luck. Go for it. Like, yeah,

yeah, absolutely, yeah. I was just like, yeah. Can we do that? No, that is not a thing. I'm not. I'm not sawing off my catalytic converter and then putting that on Facebook marketplace.

No. And then eventually, after it sits there for long enough, and then they don't, they'll crush it and sell it for just scrap metal, for weight, right? So they get whatever they can out of it. But again, it has to sit for a while. So they need, they have, like, a big, they basically just need a big field to sit it in for a while. Like, that's, yeah,

it's just gonna go over there and

yeah, yeah, it's gonna sit there for now. That's how it works. Yeah, it's kind of nuts. But, yeah, I think one of ours went to a dude had like a garage, right, sure, and he just had, like, stuff in the back, and then he just sat out there for a while and slowly got parted out to other things.

Slowly, slowly, yeah. So, yeah, that is a that's on our it's our time horizon. Is what does that look like for us and dealing with the emotions true?

That's fair. That's fair. We have the key for our car still, like, because it was the car that Susan was driving. And we, like, met, yeah, right. And then we, like, took that car everywhere. So like, we have the key, we put it in a Christmas order.

Of course, it's,

yeah, where else would it go? But we were both very sentimental when they had to go, because, like, you know, we did a lot of stuff in there. That's why I proposed to her, like when we drove the car over to thing, and I proposed to her at the Christmas lights display in the car, right? So, like, this whole thing, so I get you, I get you. I understand.

So yes, I will. Well, we'll see if we get some casters and some things to make furniture out of it.

But anyway, oh yeah,

that was that happened this this week, especially because, oh yeah,

remember, front seats are stupidly heavy, right? You're gonna, they're, they're way heavier than you think they are.

Yes, yes, well, especially because one of them is electric, and I'm like, maybe that one

stays, or you can plug it into the wall and

Don't tempt me. Yeah, so last night, because the kids stayed at the Megan's folks, and so we decided we're gonna go out. We're gonna check out this visit together. And it was like, again, sea aforementioned, like snow squalls. And so we're driving around, and it's a cold start, so the engine is even more like intensely rattling. It sounds horrible,

oh no. And

there's ice all over the car. And so as we're going around the back window is like, legitimately sounds like it is just,

it is coming out, and

Megan is just like, she's good. Are we? Oh, my goodness, we this, this, this is not good. Collin, I know it's fine. It's fine. It's like, keep going. Keep going, everything will be fine.

Almost there. It's gay. We

were quite prepared.

Nice, nice. Oh, so good grief

anyway, but yeah, that's that was my week. It's pretty

good, right? My week wasn't too exciting, except, oh, I've come out of retirement officially. Yes, you may or may not have seen Yeah. So that happened this week. Ta da surprise, out of retirement for now, or at least, you know, partway, I played some trumpet with the high school pet band the girls basketball game. That's pretty fun. Yeah, pretty exciting, right?

Like, so did they? Like? Did somebody just i

Oh, you were Hello, yes, you're back. So what happened here? Did you like get volun told to do this? Did you hear it through the grapevine?

Oh, not really. I'd been like, I went and played with the sixth grade band in just like, band class a few times, right? Okay? Because they were, you know, we get whatever. So I did. I talking to the band director about stuff, and over, like, before Christmas. She was like, oh, yeah, that would be cool if you would do that. And I was like, Yeah, I'll think about it. And she gave me, like, the music folder. So I like, looked at it a little bit and stuff. But then she did, like, just text me and be like, hey, so our trumpet player is going on a college visit. What are you doing on Thursday?

No particular reason, right?

Yeah, for no particular reason at all. Because she was like, I can play some of the trumpet parts, but my trumpet play is not very good. I was like, Well, I can't promise that mine will be either, but however, we'll just go for it. So I went and practiced with them a couple times this week after school, they had a couple pep band practices, so I went there, and then I just showed up the game on Thursday. It was pretty good. It was fun. It was fun. Was it beautiful? No, but, like, was there a couple rough patches in there? Yeah, but it was fine. It was fun, though, yeah, rusty, but it's all good. It was loud trumpet noises. And that is really all that matters

when it comes to trumpets, and you just need some noises,

yeah, I played some notes, like, at the end of the song, like, a mega high up, right? And I don't know, I don't remember what song was on. There was just like, little stingers, line, little things, whatever, the kids turn around and look at me like, What was that like? You know, it's fine. That's what you're supposed to do. Players with the clarinet, players turn around like, what? It's like, what they're trumpet noises. What trumpet players do? They play loud, hide things. It's just how it happens. So, like, it was really funny though, when they just I thought it was players, and they turn around Look at me, like, what? So I call that a win for,

for freaking out the clarinet players,

yeah, right, for freaking out the clarinet players, right? When you can frighten the woodwind section, I think that's good, right? You've done, you've done your job. Like, yes,

put it away, yeah,

sounds okay. My face hurt really bad because I haven't played that much in forever, because, like, when I played with the sixth grade band, that's like kind of low intensity, yeah, right, like we're not really playing very high, yeah, we're not playing for a very long amount of time, even in like, the hour long six grade band class. So we have to, like, warm up and do like. So it's like, a very low intensity thing, right? The first day that I played with the pep band, they were just like, All right, we're starting. It was like, oh, okay, let's go. Like, we're just no warm up at all. We're gonna play for an hour. All right, this is that hurt? Wait a minute, yeah, that hurt a little bit. We were sort of holding on by the end, like, I could tell like, Oh my I have no embouchure. I'm doing, like, very bad habity things right now, but we're pushing through. So, you know what? It's fine.

We have to we're doing what we need to do to survive.

Yeah, like, what? Yeah. So this is not ideal. Obviously, this is not what you should be doing, but I'm gonna do it anyway. It's making noises like this. So it's fine. So it was good. I got to practice with the the I practiced the first day I practiced the the girl the place trumpet was there, so she was like, no, she was telling me about the songs and like stuff. But then the next day, she was gone, so I played with the band director and then the kids. So it was really fun. And it was also fun too, because, like, at this point, I know all of the kids in band, so I just made it like fun too, right? Like, oh, I've had you all in class, you know, X number of years, somewhere between one and five years ago. So obviously or six, I guess so at one to six years ago, I've had you in my class, so I know who you are. So that was fun too. Just kind of fun survives, right? So I enjoyed it. I also thought it was fun because Susan had never heard me play trumpet before. What really like around the house, just like, making it like, but like, actual, with groups, like, loud, like that. She's never really heard that. She's never heard that before. I don't think so. Yeah, that was kind of fun. Yeah, that was exciting. I like that part.

So, yeah, it was a little nerve wracking. Right? Little digits. I did have the moment also where, you know, you like, practice the songs, and you're like, Yeah, okay, I'm pretty sure I understand this. I know how the rhythm goes right. And then they're like, all right, you're playing this song, and you look at it, and you go,

how the heck this song go? Wait a minute.

Wait, wait a minute.

Wait, yeah, which one's this? Yeah, oh no, when you don't have that, like, that mental, just that mental model of what is supposed to be happening,

yeah, when I played those songs for two days, like, I didn't, yeah, yeah. I mean, I looked at some of my house like, but like, I didn't like play them too much, yeah, and

your brain just goes goodbye.

Yeah, I don't remember what I thought about this an hour ago. Oh, no,

I yeah, there's nothing. Nothing. There's nothing, nothing.

So there's so I had a couple of those moments, but it was fine. It was fine, sure. Well, that's yeah. So it was good. It was fun. So I'll probably go back, see if I can find time to go back in here and there, because it was just fun do that. I just wanted to play. Figure I have this stupid thing in my closet, so I might as well do something with it.

Yeah, that was my question. Like, what's the you gonna try and pop in and out more? Or just kind of whenever?

Yeah, I think so. I think I think we're just gonna, yeah, it's kind of whenever. I'm not, I'm definitely not going to every basketball game, because ain't, nobody got time for that.

But, okay, fine, fine.

There's a lot of them. There's a lot of them, right, like so, but yeah, I think I'm gonna try to go to a couple more. I think because it was fun, I had fun. So, so, you go. Out of retirement. Oh, look at there. Well, out of retirement tour was good times, so this way, yeah,

that's cool. This so I

had to sneakily send you that picture just to see like, Oh, hey, guess what?

May well, but can't say I don't

know. Oh, well, my bookmark. Speaking of surprises,

speaking of surprises,

guess who PIP runs into Surprise, surprise. We left off in 22 Yes, right, right. So with we have discovered that he is coming to be with the pale young gentleman aka Herbert Pocket, right? I think that chapters 22 and 23 I like to think about this is a tale of two expositions, right? One of the like this is a lot of information and new things dumped on Pip, right? But I think one of these chapters is easy to read and flowy, and the other one is not that, right, like the other one is, like, very dense and just sort of drags on with a lot of, like, really weird things happening. And, like, I was reading chapter 23 and like, the whole time going, What on earth is happening? What?

Yes, the phrase what, what happened a lot.

It was so weird. These people in this book are so strange, I have no idea why. I don't know. I don't know if, like, They're strange because they're strange, or if they're strange because I'm missing something, because I'm not reading this in 1850 right? I can't always tell right? Like, I think the pockets are just weirdos. Like, I Right.

Like, is this? Is this commentary supposed to be for something else. Yeah, was like or, or, is this like for like people of the time? Is that what this is supposed to be? Is this just like these are supposed to be characters that are displaying attributes that we should be aware of, and should know about, like, because that's some of these things are like, Okay, Miss Havisham is obviously the way she is to get across a point that's important to the story. Yeah. What are the pockets doing?

Yeah, I think there's some of that. I think there is some of that, like, cranked up, you know, pretty high for, like, satire, a little bit, or whatever. But like, I think there is some, maybe a little commentary that we aren't missing because, like, like, when we read Connecticut, Yankee, right? That book is like, Oops, all commentary, but it's, like, very obvious and, like, very on the nose, because of the setting and because of all that stuff, right? Because this is, like, a contemporary, like, it was written contemporary with the time, about the time. Like, some of the things I think are going beyond me, at least, I think so, because otherwise, what the heck is this chapter?

Yeah, I mean, right?

I mean, it's a lot more, if it is that it's a lot more subtle, right? Dickens is playing a little more cool and calm, but like, there's some stuff. I was like, What on earth? Like, they're like, banging the baby's head around, like, Joe. I was like, what is happening?

Weird thing going on, yeah, yeah,

yeah, anyway, we'll get to that in a minute. We'll get to that in a minute. Uh, 2222 again, I think 22 as a chapter is very successful, right? I like this chapter a lot. I like the way that PIP and in Herbie here are talking to each other, right? They're just real because the pale, young gentleman, little Mr. Pocket here is, like, he's a lot of things, but like, he's pretty chill, right? Like, he, like Pip, responds several times that he doesn't believe him to be like a villainous, you know, like he doesn't very chill.

He also is, is still a bit naive about the world too. You're right. Like, Pip is basically like, I think this guy's cool in like, he's

like, the most normal person he's met so

far, so far. And I love how throughout, Herbert is also periodically throwing out tips for, like, how he should be behaving, too, where, yes,

I think, I think that's why this chapter is so good. It's so it's funny, right? Like, in the beginning, they're like, oh, yeah, here's my name, blah, blah, blah. My name is actually Herbert. And he's like, okay, you can call me Herbert. And he's like, my name is Philip. And he's like, yeah, no, that is that name is weird. I don't like Philip. And he like, he says, he does the thing where he's like, it brings to mind, and then he lists, like, 20 things that it reminds him of that are just like, off. And so he's like, do you mind terribly if I call you handle? And he's like, Yes, sure. As a familiar name, right? You can just be handle, because apparently there is a piece, a piano piece by Handel, called, what is it? Called the blacksmith, right? Yes, the the harmonious blacksmith, right? Blacksmith, yeah, did I listen to the harmonious blacksmith this week? You bet I did, Collin,

I will Okay, so just peek behind the curtain here, folks, there are times where I read something and I go, I don't know if that makes sense, what's that? And then the little thought in the back of my head goes, Brandon will take care of that I had the good thoughts of, thought of, like, do I know? Sure brands got that? Tell me, tell me about this. Did you

it's so just takeaways in general. It's very nice. It's very it's very handle, right? Like, if you listen to any other stuff, it's like, yeah, he wrote that. It's like a very upbeat, like, I listened to a couple different renditions, right? Because, like, there's people that like, well, a lot of times people interpret these classical pieces differently, right? So I just listened to a couple solo like, a couple random soloists on YouTube playing it and but it is a very like, upbeat and very like, very like staccato y and upbeat and like cheerful sounding, right? And so that that really kind of fits the vibe of the chapter as a whole, I think, yeah, because like the whole chapter, this whole chapter is very like positive and upbeat, like, and even, like, you know, when we get here a little bit, and he's like, old Herbert is talking about, like, his, like, his goals and stuff. And he's like, Yeah, I think I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna do this, and Pip's like, oh yeah. Do you have any he's like, Well, no, but I will have pips. Like, well, I get a strong feeling that he will not but I'm happy for him that he is happy that he thinks he's going to do this right? It feels kind of, it just kind of, when you listen to this piece of music, it kind of fits the vibe of this chapter, like a very well, in my opinion.

That's interesting, well, and what's, what's you we have to get through some like, yeah. I think he Herbert and PIP overall, are very upbeat and optimistic about things. And I think that's what strikes PIP the most about Herbert is just how he's like, his optimism and enthusiasm about this stuff is like, he really likes that about

it, yeah, and I think he likes that he's around somebody his own age, kind of, and like, he, he, there's a, there's several interesting commentaries in here, and, like, one of them is where he's, like, even though, even though his clothes are a little shabbier than mine, because mine are brand new, right, he feels comfortable in his where I do not right, yes. Like, this is a new surrounding for me, and I'm trying to get my bearings, and I feel uncomfortable. He does not right, and, and so, like, well, you're talking about he, he asks him, he's like, he says, Yo, just you know, if you would please if I'm new to London and New to this society business. So if you have any tips for me, please tell me, right? I, you know, I feel like we've, we're, we've got a vibe going, you know, I want you to be honest with me. Tell me what's up. And he's like, Yeah, sure. And then he just does, throws that out through the middle of the chapter. He's like, Yeah, I'm gonna tell you that. But first of all, let me talk about you shouldn't lick your knife, bro, because that's weird. Anyway, Miss Habersham, like, throws him out.

It's fantastic. And it's like the oh and in general, because, and he does it in such a kind way too, yeah? Because he's just like, oh and typically, typically, we don't, we aren't so engrossed in our drink that we tip it up so that it touches the bat the top of our nose.

Yeah. He was like, the napkin doesn't go in the tumbler, right? And it was like, I can't, for the life of me, figure out why I was trying to put my napkin in my tumbler. But I was so engrossed in listening to him that I found out that I was and,

yes, it's fantastic how it's just like these words still, like, it's so funny, and I it's, it's, it's, it speaks a lot to how Herbert handles these situations in his outlook, but it also does speak to just, still, This, this difference in societies and expect and expectations, right of of these acts and how things are ingrained in him, as much as he would like to leave his old life behind, or thinks it is like these are still part of him, and this is still part of who he is,

and for better, and Herbert has a at least some background in here, As we find out when we go visit the pocket household, we do find out that they're related to Miss Havisham in some way. Cousin is a cousin's something like this. His dad is Miss havisham's cousin, but yeah, and his dad is, though, okay, this is where I got a little bit confused again, because we're trying to figure out who all these people are, right? So we did learn that some things, we got more kind of fleshed out version of why Miss Havisham is doing Miss Havisham things, right? Pip kind of was he was asked Herbert to tell him more about her, even though she definitely isn't the one bank rolling everything, wink, wink and no, everything's fine, right? But he also respected Herbert, because he was like, Yeah, look, I we just get it, we get out of the way. Like, I know, you know, you know, I know we're not gonna talk about it. It's fine. It's cool. Don't worry.

Yeah, and he does, he does note how it's like, I think Herbert wanted to talk about this so we could get this out of the way. And I felt a weight lifted after we had talked, so I'm glad that we did this. Like, yes, it's first, like, we handle the difficult, weird conversation, because part of this is also weird, because Herbert himself said that he, he, he expected to come into some great fortune after having been invited to Miss Havisham as well, but it didn't work out for him, right, like he, he, he had some expectations coming into this that he didn't get, and now PIP is here too. So I thought that was an interesting note that Herbert had some of those for himself. Yeah?

And so, like, there's this whole thing. We have this, yeah, we and it's confusing again, because we have this, like, we get more backstory about this guy who wronged Miss Havisham. Oh, he was in cahoots with her brother or half brother, potentially, right? But like they know Matthew Pocket, so it turns out this Matthew that she's so villainous or venomous towards is Herbert's father. Yes, right, he's the one that they're gonna go see. And he wasn't, like, directly involved in these shenanigans, but, like, she was mad about stuff, and he was, like, involved somehow, but, like, not directly, and then she's mad at him, which is why she was so yelling about him coming to sit at the table so she can finally see him, because he hasn't come back to see her since then. Right, right.

Yeah. Discussion of, well, why hasn't your dad gone back? And he is like, Well, you see, like, Yeah, him showing up would prove to her that he was and so, yeah, it's like, Oh, right. And so they'll just, they'll just never talk about this again, like nothing will come from this. Yeah.

And so I'm also trying to figure out who the other pockets are at Miss halverson's house, right? Because we have the Miss, Miss Sarah pocket. So are they, like, also cut like, are, how are they related to these? That's, I mean, surely they are, right. Surely there's not just, like, more pockets around, really. So, so, like, they've got to be related too. So she's keeping them around, and they come see her. But, like, I don't know whatever it's, it's hard to keep track of, I really can't put too much thought into like, why Miss Havisham is doing things she does because she's insane. We also learned that, like, he asked about Estella again, and he he's like, this was, yeah, what he's like? As far as I know, there's always been an Estella. And he's like, what he's like. So when did the adopter? He's like, no idea. She's always there. She is, her revenge on the male race.

That's well, so here's what I got out of that, because the Estella in the that we encounter was not very old, right? She was around Pip's age, or maybe a little older. Yeah, I got, I took this to mean that she has adopted girls,

yeah, that's

raised them up and then sent them along their way.

Yeah, I think that's kind of the vibe I was gay too. Whenever he said that, that the way that he said it, right? He's like, as far as I know, there's always been an Estella like, like, the way that he phrased that, I was like, oh, oh, okay. This is just the newest incarnation of this like scheme that she's running in her weird mind, like, you know, and her sad, broken reality to get revenge on whatever.

Like, okay, so I

don't know. I don't know. But, like, also, so, yeah, that's basically this chapter I did also like though, that the fact that, like, they're just like, reveling in PIP is at least reveling in being on his own right, because he's talking about, like, they did have a waiter come up and he's like, the fact that the dining room is like, so nice, but it was only because they borrowed stuff from the cafe, and then the waiter had to come up, and he had To put the chicken on the bed and the butter and the coal scuttle and the and the gravy on the armchair. He's like, but I didn't care. Like it made it even more quaint and more interesting. And who cares, right? He was like, it was what it is, and I like it, right? Like he enjoyed it because it was him and a peer together, talking surrounded by the big city of London, and he's just like, he didn't care, right? It's like, it's not it's not beautiful, it's not pretty. But you know what? It's not a blacksmith shit, so we're good to go.

Yeah, it's different and new and novel, absolutely, yeah, and that's what you feel that in in he's kind of like reveling in this newness on his own thing. And yeah, I enjoyed the conversation with Herbert too. Again, getting back to how just naive Herbert is about anything, because he talks about how he is an insurer, but he's not really an insurer, and it's just like watching stuff.

Yeah, he's like, he's kind of and this part, I think, is commentary on the London business ecosystem in 1850 and also potentially modern business ecosystem. He's like, Yeah, I'm in a he's like, in an accounting house or whatever, right? But like, he's just there, and he's like, You have to watch out, and you observe things, and then maybe you find a chance, and then you snap it up and you take it, and that's how you get started, right? Yeah, he's like, you've got to be in it. Yep, you know, he's kind of describing what you would think about as, like a modern business internship, right? Like he just, you go, and,

yeah, when you kind of just

are around and you have to work for people for either free or not very much money, and because they're assuming that your experiences are going to be more valuable than the dollars they're paying you, which may not be true, but still, like, yeah, you know, it's like a it's a very hopeful enterprise, The capitalist dream, but also not usually the reality of the situation. So like, he is still thinking, like, Oh yeah, well, you just got to be around it. You got to be in it, and you got to get to know people, and you got to, like, do the thing, and then, like, maybe your chance will come, and you just have to pounce on it and take it. Like, yeah, that is a very that is like capitalism distilled into an idea,

yes, because there's no particulars about this, folks like this is all he says. Herbert says, then the time comes when you see your opening and you go in and you swoop upon it, and you make your capital, and then there you are when you had have made your capital, you have nothing to do but employ it. It's like, okay, yeah, anything else? You just loop in and you you find it, oh, like you are talking boldly about something that you have a never witnessed, and B, like you have no concepts,

really not how that works, and that's kind of a made up sentence.

But also you can, like, keep talking about a commentary on this time of just the intense, speculative nature and how things and people were just trying and doing so many things and had no concept of what was actually like, I don't know, like, worthwhile or good in pursuit, and they're just doing things to do things because they think that's what's supposed to happen.

And if you need any more proof that insurance is a scam, he talks about like, I want to become an insurer of things to make a lot of money. Yes, right, right. You see, you see, fine. Is it? I don't think so. Anyway, towards the end of the chapter, we're going we go to visit the pocket estate, right? And so, like, this is weird, because it's like, still in chapter 22 but also it's just bleeds into chapter 24 so we just

kind of like, yes, or,

I mean 23 I mean not because there's a number between 22 and 24 Brandon eating empty. So we go, we go to see the pockets in the pockets are weird, right? Like Mrs. Pocket. It just apparently likes to lounge about and read. She seems to be under the assumption that she, like, just barely missed out on being some sort of like royal right, somehow, right, in a very confusing turn of events here, and

we find out too that one of the reasons that she's so in, like, lying in repose and apparently, horrible at everything that she does, yeah, because she was raised to not do anything. Yes, she didn't go Yeah, school. Like, was it? Yeah?

She was Yeah. Her dad had her expectation was that she was gonna be a noble woman, right? So he didn't teach her how to do anything, right? Because you're just going to be a noble, and then, like that, you don't have to do stuff, right? You have to, like, go to parties and whatever. So she that was just her expectation that she was going to marry, like a Duke or something, right? And that didn't quite happen. And so now she just lays around in repose. We found out later she's reading a book about titles, because one of the people here that is also reading with Mr. Pocket is going to maybe be a Duke too. Oh no, but she does have a bunch of kids, apparently, at least, at least seven, maybe more, who knows, a very wide array of ages as well, because there's still some being bounced around by a nanny. And then Herbert is with PIP, you know, balling around in London or whatever. So like, that's weird, but she I just like how PIP describes them as these kids are tumbling up. This is how they're being raised, just sort of like fall about and then some nannies come and swoop them. And he makes an interesting commentary about how the servants appear to be running the household, right? And I think this comment, and I feel like maybe that is like a commentary a little bit because, like, she's definitely not doing any work. We're not real sure. Are we sure what Mr. Pocket does exactly? I don't really know if we talked about that. I may have missed it. But like, he's about and he's doing his thing. He's studying with people, right? So, like, the daily tasks of like being alive are all done by the servants, right? But because the pockets seem to be so incredibly clueless about what those tasks are, the servants are just doing, like, whatever. Yeah, right. Like, they have no idea, like, how to live a normal life, like, what a p what a normal person would do on a daily basis. And so I guess in that case, maybe this is a bit of a commentary chapter, because, like, it appears that Mrs. Pocket, for sure, has no clue what sort of things have to go on daily to keep a house running, right? She knows nothing about cleaning or cooking breakfast or whatever, and so the servants do it. And so because the servants also, perhaps not, perhaps definitely know that they don't know they're just kind of doing whatever. They're kind of doing what they want to do and what they think is important for their life in the house as the servants. So like, they're trying to as much to make their lives as good as they can, which is kind of easy because the pockets are like, so oblivious that they're just like, so yeah, instead of serving them, they're just, like, taking care of themselves and also helping them, kind of when it's just because, like, we're already cooking. So like, I guess you guys can have some food too. But like, when it talks about how they mislaid the roast, or whatever it's like, wait a minute, they did not do that. They just said that.

Yes, there's obviously a lot of inefficiencies going on here. Because He also notes that the the servants of the house, right? The Maids, like, they kept the what did, he commented about, basically, like the table was always, like, way too full. Like they are, like it was very rich in food, obviously, for them, like it was for them, like you said, and, and, yeah, the roast is misplaced. And later we find out that there's something going on with the cook, you know, about how the cook's drunk on the job.

Oh, yeah. And like,

this is this? Is this, again, this from the outside, looking in. Look at these people, and how the wife lying and reope not lifting a finger, servants taking everything, what the husband does or we don't know. And I think it's also interesting. You have to think about this. Pip is here for Mr. Pocket to be his tutor. Yeah, that's, that's who PIP is supposed to learn from and model in society. So, like,

oh, he was a knife grinder. That's what he did. Okay, absolutely, okay. Okay. I just found it okay. I remember. Yeah, I remember,

but, but he ground nice. But, like, did he then something happened, right? And then yeah,

like, I don't understand, yeah, it's kind of weird,

from knife grinding to not at all.

Yeah, he read with divers who had lacked opportunities or neglected them, and they had refurbished the divers other for special occasions, and had turned his acquirements of the account of literary compilation and correction on such means added to very moderate private resources. Still maintain the house I saw. I don't really understand that sentence a lot, but he just sort of like, stumbled into this is kind of what it sounds like, like, he just sort of accidentally, yes, got a little bit wealthy and like, now he like, like, but again, this education is like, he, they just refer to it as reading with people, right? Because there's like, some other dude here who's kind of a weird who's like, yeah, the neighbor lady talks about how Miss pocket is the like, nosy toady neighbor talks about how Miss pocket is generally put out by Matthew having to read with so many young men, but not you, of course, darling, not you. Not like you. The other young blood, young men are not like you. And PIP talks about how, like, he thought the flattery was nice at first, but she was so overbearing at it that he got real grossed out by it and wanted her to shut up.

And he also says she had known me all of five minutes, right?

Yeah, your first was Viper, like, at one point, right? She's like, definitely, just, yeah. Again, she doesn't seem like a very nice person. And so this, this whole Jeffrey is just so weird, yeah? Like, Pip is now here, like, oh yes, you'll learn how to be a gentleman from this guy. Yeah? Who clearly knows really not a lot. So this is really exacerbated by the fact that when he does like finally get upset, and PIP describes him as putting his hands in his hair and trying to lift himself up. Literally nobody pays attention, because we can infer that this happens so often that nobody cares,

nobody. It's

not his wife, not the kids, not the surface.

It's like nothing is going on. And I think, also interesting to just like put a little pin in right here. All of this is orchestrated for pets benefit by we are assuming Miss Habersham. Why? Totally not. Why? Okay, so on one side, Miss Habersham is ruining the women's and girls expectations of how they deal with men and all that. Yeah. Why is do we think that she has sent PIP to the cousin that she ve imminently

she doesn't? Yeah, spies despises. Yeah, do we think this is for good? Yeah?

No, no, people. What is this? What like this struck me, while all this chaos is going on, I'm reading this, and it was at this moment where I went, I just backed way up here and going, No, like now I could be proven wrong. But like Habersham, up to this point is just like this. This bitter, like, jaded, like, out to light the world on fire kind of person and burn it all down. And we think that PIP here is supposed to benefit from this, like, this is, I he's being shown all the well, the worst aspects of this, you know, probably for a reason.

Then, yeah, and I think I don't know, maybe PIP realizes this, because, as we transfer to chapter 24 here, chapter 24 is a he pips kind of going, Hmm, I've gone back and forth between London and the a few times, the pockets house. And, you know, I've got, you know, I've been to the shops, and I've got what I think I need for now, but I really want to keep the London thing going on, because it's a lot over there. So he goes to Mr. Yeagers to get like, money so that he's like, he talks to like Herbert, and it was like, hey, you know, maybe we could keep this place here, so that, you know, we could stay. And Mr. Pocket did not object to this arrangement. So let's like he goes to miss Jaggers to get money because he like, wants a place that's not there to stay.

Yeah, he says. He says it occurred to me that if I could retain my bedroom in Bernard's inn, my life would be agreeably varied, while my manners would be none the worse for Herbert society. So he's starting to realize, Oh yeah, that's maybe, that's where I actually need to be, for sure. And he Yeah, pocket Yeah, care, because he genuinely doesn't have time or space for anything else.

Yeah, yeah. And so again, I feel like this is this is something else that this. This conversation is weird because, like, I didn't really, I said, but it sounds like they rented the furniture to fill out the room while he was going to be there. And pips like, yo guys. He's like, buy it so we can stay. Like, is that a thing that can happen? And Mr. Jaggers, like, yeah. How much do you need? And pips, like, I don't, I don't know. I wanted to ask you how much I need. And he was like, do you need, like, 100 pounds? He's like, No, that seems way too bad. And they have this weird thing, like, I get, we get a bit of a like. It kind of reminds me of the pumblechook dialog, where he's like, making him do maths, like, all of a sudden,

how much is it? How much is it? He's like, you want

50 pounds? He's like, No, he's like, five. He's like, probably more than that. He's like, Well, how much he's like, I don't know how much things cost. Why? Won't you tell me?

Yeah, uh huh. I

like, and so they decide on a number. They decide on 20. Like, okay, sure. And then he just goes, give him 20 pounds. Like, all right. And so this we make guy, the clerk, dude who just makes all the stuff up, takes him to go set it up, right? Like, just,

well, he's showing him the other people who work there first, too, right? Oh yeah,

they go, I forgot about the part. They go, like, upstairs and look at all the other stuff very, it's like, wonky up there and slightly frightening.

Everything's distorted, right? Everything's just a little like, unsettling and not pleasant

and decrepit. It's like, very decay,

yes, right? More of that, yeah.

And they kind of show them around and just like, look at stuff and go whatever. So this, by the way, I forgot to look it up earlier, but 20 pounds is about $2,000 I would roughly say today. Ah, guess definitely it's like 1600 pounds, which is somewhere around $2,000 i in today's, let's see, 16 was rough estimate. Yeah, $2,100 so it's a lot of furniture, but, but that's what, that's what you want. And so, yeah, they go on a tour. And again, he kind of like, hits it off with his women guy, right? He kind of, they kind of start having a little bromance thing happening here. Like, they kind of start getting a little bit closer to being like friends. They're gonna, like, hang out a little bit, right? Like, because he's like a just again, he's a more real representation of actual people, right? And so PIP is, like, wants to talk to this guy instead, because he's like, kind of normal, and he's just like a working guy, except for he's got all these weird, like jewelry things happening. He remarks on that a whole bunch of times. But he goes, they go up there, they do that, they get the thing. And he's like, Hey, you want to go see him work? He's like, what? He's like, Yeah, do you just want to go see Mr. J, you're he's your guardian. You want to see what he does? Oh, yeah. And he's like, Oh, my guess so, right. So apparently, in 1850s London, you can just like, walk into a courthouse and just like, look at what's happening, right? Here's the big all trials are apparently, just in a room, right? And you can just go in and just watch. I don't think that's true now, right?

Well, well, sometimes, well, so sometimes court proceeds are to the public. That's true most of the times they're not, and nobody cares. Yeah, but this was entertainment for people. I mean, Pip was that is

true, right? Like in the

early time in the when PIP first got to Jaggers, that was part of his stroll through of you know that guy who was like, Hey, do you want to come do this and watch this thing? Do you want to come watch this trial? Do you want to, you know, watch this guy get hanged? Like it was a, it was a big it was theater to people to go sit and watch this

Well, I mean, yeah, I think that kind of is, I think theater is a good definition, because that's kind of how Jagers is, or Jaggers, whatever is treating it right. He's like going insane up there. His like cross examinations, like super intense. And he's like yelling and waving his finger around. And he's like yelling at the judge. He's like the magistrate shivered under a single bite of his finger. Thieves and thief takers hung in Dead Rapture on his words and shrank when a hair of his eyebrows turned in their direction, right, like he's just insane.

Yeah, is that? Is that PIP actually can't figure out whose side he's supposed to be on?

Yeah, because he's just yelling at everybody, he's yelling at the witness, he's yelling at the defendant, he's yelling the judge. And, yeah, he can't figure out if he's like, a defense attorney, or if he's like, bros, he's like, I don't know what's going on right now. I don't know who's I don't know who's who. I don't know what he's just yelling at everyone. Fantastic.

Yeah, again, yep, just like, larger than life theatrical character, which is, which is, I don't know, like we've seen little bits of that in him throughout this of but also, then you,

I mean, yeah, when he, this is, like a ramped up to 11 version of whenever he was going at pumblechook in the bar about the trial in the newspaper, right, when he kept doing the finger bite thing finger, and he kept, like, pointing and gesticulating and making his points. But, like, this is that, but like, insane, because he's got a bit, possibly, because he has a bigger audience, right, possibly because getting paid to do it, right? But either way, all the above, yes, yeah, all the above. So we end on this note of PIP just being like, Whoa, what the heck

yes. It's yeah. What a way to end and see who this character actually, this guy actually becomes,

yeah, we get a more look at him because he's been kind of, he's been intense the whole time. Like, all of the interactions pips had with him are intense, like, all the way up to now, like, including the one we just had, like, how much money you want, tell me. And he's like, I don't, I don't know how much money the chair is, just how much you think I need.

Yes, I came to you for help. And basically it was yet another kind of, like, Jagers, Jaggers, another attempt for another cross examination, right? Another time, to put somebody under the screws.

That is kind of what it felt like, yeah. Like, you just can't help it. He's just like, get him. Oh, okay. You just want to know about a table. Okay, I'm sorry, sure it's little intense for that, but so we'll see what happens. I literally cannot begin to predict what could possibly be happening next.

No, I haven't. I'm not even gonna try again. I've stopped guessing long time ago. I know just like whatever I'm I'm on, I'm here for the ride. True, it's true.

That is kind of what it is, kind of a ride. Like, there is no like, what's gonna what is Pip gonna do next? Literally, no way to tell at this point. So we'll see. We've got a couple new characters, like we have all the pockets. We have the dude who is there. Also, what was his name? Had a weird name glossed over him briefly because he wasn't really that important yet, but like he was there, we're gonna PIP wants to hang out with more with this whimmick guy, interesting, right? He's got a dumb name. What is his name? Good grief. Oh my gosh, what in the world we had Miss Collin and, oh, this Drummle fellow, right? Him, yes, Bentley, whose Christian name was Bentley, this guy. So I'm assuming we're gonna see more of them, because they're just at the pockets, right? He's at the pockets. Do stuff. So my only prediction is that there will be more of this bitly fella. That's all I got.

Yes, I'll take that bad.

Not much more, though, not much more. No, that's okay. No,

yeah, we'll, we'll see what happens here. I do have a haiku to end. Oh, let's go. Okay, old friend on thin breath, miles echo with children's laugh, idols into dusk.

Oh, oh, oh, that's good. So good though, dang,

we will until next time, oh yes, make new memories. That's gonna be fine.

Yes, yes, definitely

all good, though. So anyway, there we go. There it is. Stay warm tonight. I'm looking Yes for sure it is zero degrees. Gonna go put on my socks before I go to bed. I actually

put on my I have slippers, right? Yeah, I never wear them. I think Mimi bought these for me at some point. I am wearing them right now because it's so cold. My they're like MOX, the Moxie ones, right? Yes, I

too, actually have a pair on my feet right now, and this has been my winter ensemble around the house is like, my shoes, my house slippers and my sleep pants and then a flannel over a short sleeve shirt. That's me shuffling around the home in the I'm

not too far off. I have on some sweatpants and a hoodie so like, oh, here we go. Pretty much

it yep, yep. Very good. Well, on that note, yeah. Well, in there and see what happens next time. All right. Okay. Love you.

Love you. Bye.