accidental French monday

Wherein Brandon had 3 snow days, someone pushed the button, and Pip…what in the world…

• 3 solid days of snow days

• Unofficial estimates from yesterday

• Stuck near

• Shoveling driveway

• Accidental French Monday

• Push the button

• morse code note

• Chapters 28-30

• How much is a banana: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_Qyk9DSUw 

• Collin Haiku

• A foot of snow falls—

• Tires whisper, roads slow to breath,

• White miles, steady hands.

• Brandon haiku

• The mercury falls

• As bubbles rise on the stove

• A hearty joyful bowl

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SUMMARY KEYWORDS

snow day, accidental French Monday, winter storm, shoveling, remote learning, AMI days, school closure, podcast recording, Miss Havisham, Estella, Pip, Herbert, Victorian England, role of money, Pip, Estella, Jaggers, Miss Havisham, London, Joe Gargery, Herbert, Avenger, Marriage, Hamlet, Play, Servant, Emotions, Conflict

SPEAKERS

Brandon,Collin Funkhouser

Collin Funkhouser  00:05

Collin, welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon and Collin on this week's show, accidental French Monday, Ahoy, ahoy. How is it going?

Brandon  00:21

Oh, it's it's cold. It's less snowy, though cold. How? I mean, it was warm enough today I have to go back to school tomorrow, so that is unfortunate. I did get a good solid three days of snow day, so I'll feel like that's good, right? Three snow days, pretty good. Feel like I can't complain too much about that, no, and what, it's better to go back on Thursday than, like, going back only for Friday. That would really, that would really suck, like, a lot, and so I don't want,

Collin Funkhouser  00:59

yeah, that's not good. At least you get a little bit of, like, yeah, runway

Brandon  01:04

there, yeah. Get to actually, you can maybe actually do something with a couple days, right? Yeah, sorry. I interrupted you, like, twice. What were you gonna say?

Collin Funkhouser  01:11

No, no, it's fine. You have you. I was, I was just curious, how much snow did you actually get?

Brandon  01:17

Ah, unofficial estimates from yesterday. So I measured yesterday, right? So could have been a small bit of melting occurring, but about yesterday, when I was measuring outside, we had seven inches. Ah, well, so I think, I think there may have been a bit more than that, but not too much, because I measured over, like, in the shade by the woods, so, like, it wouldn't have melted too bad over there. Okay. And I measured into several different areas. I say unofficial, because I measured by jamming my hand in the snow and then measuring that when it came, when I came back inside later.

Collin Funkhouser  02:00

But I think that's totally fine. I think I feel like, did humanity measure things, but with their hands? Yeah, right, literally, how you measure horses? So yeah, that is true,

Brandon  02:12

and the foot exists. So my question So,

Collin Funkhouser  02:15

how many horses deep was the

Brandon  02:19

I don't really know how horses work, but I not very it would have been over a hoof. Probably, I don't know about much more than that, though. So at least one hoof of a big horse, right? Not a dainty like Arabian, right? You know, like a draft horse. Like, nice. Well, you, how did you get snow a little or was it just like, negative seven?

Collin Funkhouser  02:53

Like, yeah, so we did get the bitter cold on. So we were supposed to have two waves of snows. And the first wave, it was Saturday morning. It was too cold for it to amount to much, which we were all much rejoicing in and thankful for. We then ran away and we went, actually, went into the storm, went from south.

Brandon  03:21

Oh, that's, that's not how running away works. That's we ran away. That's the opposite of running away.

Collin Funkhouser  03:27

Ran towards, some say, ran towards and, and because we, I wanted to be in position if team members needed help.

Brandon  03:41

Yeah, that's why everyone didn't want to be stuck far away and to be stuck nearby. Yes, would like

Collin Funkhouser  03:49

stuck near, stuck near, absolutely. So that was the plan, and we decided we were all going to go down as a family, which was also a choice, kind of, like, last minute, load up, last load up. Last minute lightly packed, because I was like, two nights, don't pack much, because we also need to make room for the like the winter storm preparation, like, typically, when we go down, I don't have to pack a snow shovel that's true, or a box of cat litter and ice melt. I also have to pack blankets for everybody, tarps for everybody. I don't have to pack, like, this kind of stuff and extra food in case. So, like, we were ready. We drove down in the snow on Saturday, and it was fine, and we ended up, basically it was, like, it really was kind of a, like a tactical decision of where are we going to stay? Because I was like, we could stay at dad's, but that will be bad. Is far

Brandon  04:53

away, right? And if the goal is to be close to things, that is not the place to be way out. On a farm road with no snow plow.

Collin Funkhouser  05:04

So it's not going to see a snowplow for at least many days, right? Yeah, probably many. So I was like, well, we can't, we can't do that. So then it was, well, now we have to find, like, a hotel. I have to find a like, we did this whole, like, mapping it out of, like, what's the best? Oh, no, you were finding the most

Brandon  05:25

centralized hotel location, weren't you? Did you have a map laid out with perhaps some red yarn drawn about, right? This is what I'm envisioning in my head, right? You have the map pinned to the wall red strings, like one, like, a one color string to the office, right? And then some, like, tape around the service area. But then you're like, put pins in the hotels, and are like, drawing lines between them, triangulating best positions. Am I close, right? Like, or was it? Was it basically that, but done on Google Maps instead.

Collin Funkhouser  06:01

Yeah, we'll just assume that that's exactly what happened. Okay, all right, I like this illustrative purposes. That's what happened. And you mentioned our office, like, there was a moment where I was like, Look, if things get real bad, like, would we're just gonna have to stay at the office. And so we had, like,

Brandon  06:17

then your wife said, No, be your staying at the office

Collin Funkhouser  06:29

space had a space heater in the back in case we ended up there. That's all I'm saying. And, and so part of it was like, Okay, we're gonna stay at this hotel. It can't be like, I don't know, like, it can't be like, real crappy, because we might be there for a while.

Brandon  06:47

And secondly, like, no offense, but it can't be like, motel, no, right?

Collin Funkhouser  06:52

Like, no, no, no, when you can see the doors from the outside, I was like, not that one. Okay, so it's fine again. Other occasions,

Brandon  07:00

there are some sweet, like, vintage motels in Springfield, but, like, they're cool looking from the outside, I don't know if I want to go, like, in there.

Collin Funkhouser  07:09

Didn't want to be snowed in at one here, like, the

Brandon  07:12

historic one that the car people always go to Glenstone, right? Like, like, up there. That one

Collin Funkhouser  07:19

looks great. Also, if we were going to stay at that one, we might as well stay at the office, because the office is literally a minute away. So fair, but, but, yeah, I was like, What if we get snowed in? What do we actually want to be in? So we, we went back and forth and found one, because kids with us too. So, like, they need to have places to be. It needs to be kind of bigger with the, you know, indoor pool, that kind of stuff. So it's kind of weird how we plan this. And turns out, I actually was needed on Sunday morning. Had had an employee get out there, like I did and visit. I can't do the rest so, so I was like, well, here we go, shooting up getting out and they got a foot of snow. Oh, yeah, okay, yeah, it was a it was, it was a lot, but it was the real powdery kind, yeah,

Brandon  08:11

it was real. The air was so dry, like it really did not. It was, like, it was very powdery. Ours was like that as well.

Collin Funkhouser  08:21

Everybody became real, immediate experts on the effect of temperature on snowflake formation.

Brandon  08:29

Yes, okay, they'll forget about it in like 20 seconds.

Collin Funkhouser  08:33

So, you know, I went out and I don't know, I love driving in the snow. It's it's fun. It's a sentence. It also helps when I have a vehicle that's like,

Brandon  08:46

that's, yeah, that's why you love driving in the snow, because you get to, like, use the buttons on your car. You just feel vindicated now, right? Because you're like, at long last, yes, I think I can push the snow but

Collin Funkhouser  09:03

so I may, at some point in trying to convince Megan to buy our current vehicle, I may have used the phrase it's a destroyer of worlds, and that's a bit Extra, even for you, I feel like it's off roading prowess and history and so in debate, in going through all this stuff, Megan casually slips. She goes, Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you bought a destroyer of worlds. I was like, No, you're not. I lot. So that was fine, and I didn't have, I didn't have any issues, but it was a lot of shoveling of people's driveways for the team so that they could get out and be safe, which is important when they come like came out later, behind me. Yeah. Stuff visits. So that actually went really, really well. And then it was like, Well, do we stay here another night, or do we go bother dad? And so it was like, well, let's bother him. He's not doing anything, and if he got a foot of snow, he's gonna need some help. So turns out he did, in fact, get the tractor stuck, and then his truck basically stuck trying to blade the driveway for nice so we went out and it was just so cold, right? It looked pretty, but you could spend seven and a half minutes outside before Yeah, yeah, back in Frostbite is occurring currently, people, so please don't do that. So we played outside, had a lot of fun, and had then Monday, we came back home and and have been settled in. But up here we got less snow. I think we also got like, six to seven inches around us. So we had to shovel our way into our back door, and which was fun. That was great, jumping out of the car, being like, wait before anybody can go inside, I need to spend 15 minutes shoveling. Yeah, that's a fun feeling, let me tell you, is it?

11:32

No, it's not. It's not.

Brandon  11:36

Yeah, so we, we actually put off all of our shoveling until today, because we're like, well, we don't have to go anywhere. So, yeah, why get out when it's like, mega cold in trouble if you're not even going to go anywhere anyway. Yeah, we just, like, put it off. We always put it off as long as possible. Like, okay, well, I think that's okay. We're gonna have to go back, like, today. We're like, well, we have to go back tomorrow, so I guess we should go shovel today, even though we did go out for our customary walkabout in the snow yesterday. Of course you have to. I mean, we did wait till yesterday, and not the days when it was five degrees, yeah, right.

Collin Funkhouser  12:18

You have to wait till it's a bit warmer.

Brandon  12:21

You do, you do. It's kind of important. But so we waited, but we still went, and then we shoveled today, but it was like, pretty warm. We were like, 3537 degrees when we were going outside today. So it's like,

Collin Funkhouser  12:34

today was nothing beautiful. I really enjoyed today,

Brandon  12:38

but the shoveling was much easier today, because it was, like, pretty melty. So Susan did go. We did go over. Susan, we went over and shoveled off her mom's driveway

12:51

before. But like, you know,

Brandon  12:55

because they have to go, they have to go over all the places all the time, you know, I'm sure, yeah, does that make sense, right? They just need to be out and about, always faffing around, doing weird stuff,

Collin Funkhouser  13:10

yeah, yeah. So that was, that was our week so far, and it's been, yeah, I just, I know it's, it's Megan asked, because of what we did to our weekend and how it was situated, and when we were traveling, I'm like, I came home on a Monday. That is, that's horrible. Like, it is, like, I, it does not feel I, my brain is not synced up with what day

Brandon  13:36

actually is. That's fair, yeah? It kind of throws everything off a little bit. Yeah, kind of like being out of school for three days. I'm kind of not sure what day it is right now. Yeah, I just had, like, a really long weekend. Oh, where am I? What's happening? Where to what's going on. I was super unpredicted. Do anything. It's basically like, played video games and ran it all weekend, extended weekend. So we accidentally had a very French Monday. However, it was kind of weird. Susie decided that's accidental French Monday, right? Yeah. No, not. We sat around in a cafe smoking all day. No, not that we had Susan decided that we should go. And we always go over and eat dinner with her mom, right, who is, of course, our next door neighbor. So like when I say go, like we travel feet, yes, but she wanted to make them breakfast on Monday so we made french toast Monday morning. Okay, right. And then it just so happened that we had scheduled Monday night to be French onion soup night. So like, I guess we, we messed up for lunch a little bit. I guess we just sort of had a jean Bon beer sandwich. But, like, um. Other than that, like, other than lunch getting in the way. We had to accidental. I mean, it's not so bad, is it? No, it was. It was just really funny. It was like, Oh my gosh, look at this.

Collin Funkhouser  15:16

Oh well. I you know, as far as Monday goes, having an accidental French one, I think is pretty man, think it's not too bad. Schedule. Some more French Mondays. I mean, it didn't work. So, like, that's good, that's awesome, right, right, yeah,

Brandon  15:31

yeah, yeah. Just to be clear, French people, I agree with you. Okay, so I'm saying this is in a positive manner. I'm not being a disparaging American, being like, may should work more. No, no, no, we should work less. I'm just saying just, I'm with you here.

Collin Funkhouser  15:47

I understand where we are. It's totally fine. Just wanted to clarify. I'm one of you.

Brandon  16:00

Yeah, yeah. So other than that, well, we did have some people over on Saturday. They were coming over Saturday to just have, like, lunch. We were gonna have, like, a lunch thing. And so they came anyway. We're like, Well, you sure you want to come because it's snowing? They're like, Nah, it's fine. So okay, because it was like, 1130 they were like, yeah, and they'd, like, just kind of started snowing a bit, and it hadn't really, it had been snowing kind of all morning, but like, Sure, it hadn't, like, it was so powdery and fine, and it hadn't accumulated just, like, massively. So they're like, whatever. It's good. That was about it, really, that's too exciting. Had to check all my emails all the time. I had my way. We had that AMI stuff. So the kids had homework for the snow days. Oh, okay, yeah. So they had to do things. So I had to check all that stuff. I had random emails for a bunch of people, so been looking at those, seeing if they got if they need any help with that. So it's been kind of sitting around, like having my device, my school device, with me, like nearby, just like checking that

Collin Funkhouser  17:22

was my question. What I mean? Do you know the decision tree for them doing the, you know, still doing the remote learning versus not? Like, how do they parse through whether they're going to do that or not?

Brandon  17:39

Part of it has to do with how many days are in the calendar already. And I don't remember this year, how many extra days already exist, right? Like, oh, because you have a the state says you have to go this minimum number of days, right, right? And then I think we go longer just to have, like, days that you can use if you need them to, like, take off. I don't know how much longer, at one point it was, like, a lot of days. And so, like, we never had to do anything, and it was awesome. But like, he's been, like, shrinking that for reasons that I can't really understand. I think part of it is like, allegedly, like, since they can't pay us any more money, they're like, Well, you could work two less days a year. Like, it doesn't matter at that point. Like, who cares? Whatever but usually the thinking is that, like, if it's gonna, if we're just gonna miss like, one day, they'll be like, eh, snow day, whatever, right? But if it's going to be like, consecutive days, potentially several consecutive days. Oh, I see it will be work days, right? And some of the weather forecasts for our area, like, there was a some that were putting that number at like, 12 plus inches of snow. Now that wasn't with like a high percentage of certainty, right? It was like 80% chance of like, over 10 inches. But still, if it would have been that number, we wouldn't have gone to school at all.

Collin Funkhouser  19:29

I don't think that would be what we would call ladies and gentlemen.

Brandon  19:33

Bad. Yeah, yeah. Now I know all my friends in Finland are laughing at us atrociously. What do you mean? That's fair, okay? And to them, I say fair, all right. You know, that's okay. I understand. We just don't have the infrastructure to deal with that. And so they also our county road crew is like four people, so, yay boy, howdy, hooray. But that's general, that's the general mode of thought is that if there are going to be consecutive days, then there will be work days, right? But if it's just going to be one, especially if it's like, oh, it's going to be real, it's going to be real snowy on Friday, and we might be out of school on Friday, then they'll be like, whatever. Like, yeah, that's that's usually the the thinking, but I don't know it has happened before, too that we were out a whole week and they did work days like, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then Friday, like, hey, snow day. Who cares? We were already gone a whole week. What did you do? Skip that one.

Brandon  21:07

So I got to sort through all that tomorrow that will be tomorrow's task. Tomorrow has two tasks. Number one, what on earth was I doing before we left? And then sifting through all the work and seeing who's done. Did anybody miss it? Was anybody not able to finish it and figure out that and get that stuff done and turned in, because I have to have it turned in like I have to put it in the grade book with a grade for the state of Missouri to count it as an official non missed day of school, like, there has to be a record that it was completed. Oh, interesting, yeah. So, like, I don't know who looks at that, but they have to be able to go in there, if somebody did look at, I don't know, and be like, Oh, here's their AMI, day one, here's all the grades. Tada, right? Like this. It was all completed that way. Of all the kids turned to work in therefore it counts as a school day, right? So I don't really know the logistics of how that functions. I don't know who looks at that. I don't know if we just, like, report it. We're like, Yeah, yeah, no, it's fine, definitely fine. Don't worry about it. Like, well, it's like Harrison Ford in a hot solo in the first Star Wars A New Hope when they're busted into the Death Star, and he's like, is everything all right? Yeah, yeah, sure. Everything's fine. Everything's fine here. How are you don't look don't they like disguise troopers, you know, they're like, yeah, yeah, everything's fine here. How to action, everything? We're all fine here now, yes, he shoots a calm, yeah. That's kind of how I think it goes, like,

Collin Funkhouser  23:13

yeah, I don't know, like, not too bad.

Brandon  23:16

So allegedly, there will be some record of this happening. But if that's true, so, but I have to put in the grade book. So I have to go through and be like, Oh, you didn't finish it. I need you to do this. Like, just make it like an assignment, like, you have this main days to finish it right. Like, because I have to check it. So that will be the slog tomorrow, going through because I don't, I don't want to do it now also, because, like, technically, it's not due. None of the stuff is due until they come back to school, right? So I told them, like, until I see you again. Yeah, it's not, like, like, I'm not gonna check it and grade it now, because, like, maybe you were, you know, didn't have whatever power or something, I don't know. But like, since you know, it's due when the next time I see you, right? So like, and some of the kids, like, they can't, like the internet's not great at their house. So they'll like, download it on their Chromebooks, and then they can't like, upload it and turn it into me at home. So they just come up to me and like, here, look, okay, yeah, got it,

24:28

boom, done. Or they can

Brandon  24:32

turn it in when they get back to school, right when they get back on the school internet, then they can just, like, slap it on there and it's fine. So, yeah, that's tomorrow. Is navigating that, all that stuff, just looking through all the assignments. Yay, digging through so happy if I can convince all the kids to. Actually go into Google Classroom and click the Turn in button, right because there's a big, fat turn in button there. And like, they don't have to do that for me to, like, look at their work, but if they do that, it like, sorts it into a separate column of that just says, like, turned in and finished. So if I could get them to click the button checking who wasn't done, yeah, becomes a lot easier. Otherwise, I have to go through all of them individually to just like, see if they're done or not. Yeah, right.

25:32

Like, that's annoying. So like, if they would push the button,

Collin Funkhouser  25:39

well, good luck. Yeah, push, yeah.

Brandon  25:43

Because, like, I can, like, even if I open it now and look at it, I can tell, like, I know that there's more done than what it tells me, right? So it says that there's 18 people that haven't done it, right? But if I let me click on this person, if I click on this person right here, oh yeah, his is done. He just never turned it so like, so I'd have

26:14

to do that with all of them. Gross.

Brandon  26:18

So yeah, it's all right, just sort through, oh, look, she's done too I didn't turn it in, girl. So again, this number is, this says there's 18 people that have not completed my assignment. But clearly that is incorrect. So, so, yeah, oh, another person who's is done didn't push the button. So, yes, you see, you see the problem

Collin Funkhouser  26:52

here. Come on, people push

Brandon  26:54

the button, bro, yep. Another one, yeah. So, just a sampling four out of the 18 are actually finished.

Speaker 1  27:07

So good. Yeah, guys. Guys push the button. We always turn it into class.

Brandon  27:14

Oh yeah. But some of you I know are listening right now, because we've been found out. You've discovered that randomly, but like

27:23

we found, I found

Brandon  27:26

it was ominous. Is what it was, Collin, oh, I found a note on my desk written in Morse code. Oh, no,

Collin Funkhouser  27:40

Morse code. Wow, wow. Hey. And I was like, Hey kid, Hey kids, like, what? Yeah, leave random notes in Morse code around.

Brandon  27:58

That's all it said. It just said, Oh brother, oh, on a torn bit of notebook paper laying on my desk. Very ominous, very mildly threatening.

Collin Funkhouser  28:14

This is all wrong and absolutely horrifying, no and hilarious and genuinely funny Yes,

Brandon  28:27

and also a bit telling, because, like, they didn't sign their name, but who knows Morse code in the sixth grade? Like, yeah, I know for a fact one person does, because they've talked about it before. So case you didn't think I was listening.

Collin Funkhouser  28:47

Busted, boom, busted. Okay, so I this is how I experience this. In real time, I get the comment alerts to my phone on Spotify, because I have the Creator account and I check stuff, and so I just start getting these notifications. But Megan also gets these because she signed it, because she signed into the Creator account that we use to manage our other one. Oh yeah, okay, so, because it manages both, oh, okay, okay, I see she's and so I'll get one. And also I would just get this screenshot from Megan with like, question mark, question mark, question mark, and having to explain what, what is going on, and what I think this is, as I'm forwarding to you and and I have an admonishment here, if you're going to take the time to listen, look, I'm not going to break the third wall here. I'm not going to speak to anybody directly. However, Brandon, I think you would agree that anybody who takes the time to leave a comment should absolutely be. Leaving a five star review of the podcast. Yeah, it's true. Nope, I appreciate that.

Brandon  30:05

They're they understand how engagement works, right? Like, oh yeah, commenting is good for thing, but bro, yeah, come on.

Collin Funkhouser  30:14

Also good for Yeah, review at least review it, man, at least review it. So anyway, I'm not gonna break the third wall, nobody in particular, but I would think that somebody who

Brandon  30:25

listens, yeah, nobody in particular, that clearly listened to more than one of the episodes. I commented multiple times on really random old ones too. Like, who's that? Like, they just, like, I felt like they just scroll down and hit stop. Or, like, all right, this one, like, what? What do you do? Not even like, last week. So what is happening?

Collin Funkhouser  30:40

I know that was the one, yes,

Brandon  30:44

just like, way, not way old, but it was like, from many weeks ago, like, I had to, like, go, I had to log on, I had to, like, open Spotify, to figure out, like, when that was because you just sent me the comment. And I was like,

30:58

What are they talking about, yeah.

Brandon  31:03

So this is episode from like, November, right? Like, so I picked that one, but whatever, it's fine. Maybe they just were perusing your snappy titles, and we're like, hey, let's check this one out.

Collin Funkhouser  31:18

Look. Titles work. That's why I do do that.

Speaker 1  31:27

Yes, yes. So yeah, speaking of which,

Brandon  31:32

Ah, sorry. We didn't mean to leave you hanging last week, but

Collin Funkhouser  31:38

I'm hanging my head in shame. No one knows what happened. I have no I have no idea what happened. I feel like maybe we should blame at&t, really. Ah, yes, right. Like, yes, I think we should blame at&t. I do not know what happened, and I feel horrible, because what happens is, whenever zoom records. It always places the folder on the far, far right of my screen, and I grab it because that's where it puts it on my screen, on my desktop. And it's really annoying. I always grab our recording and I put it in the lower left hand corner, because that's where the Oh brother, unedited file goes. And I could have sworn like this happened, but like I'm I checked backups. I looked at all sorts of places. It does not exist. There's no history of us having recorded last week, which I'm going to say is an amazing episode.

32:40

I know I'm sad.

Collin Funkhouser  32:43

It was sad, and we're not going to rehash it here, but I'm going to say is, there was chili talk. There was a weird discussion about something that was not apple pie, true, yeah, I'm Chad

Brandon  32:54

that's gone. Let's just broach that. It's next fall that happens again, right? Like, I'll

Collin Funkhouser  33:01

spring back up. And, yeah, yeah. And a shout out to the to a public library like it was good stuff. Yeah. So I, I hang my head in shame here as and look, we did this for 326 episodes without an episode, without

Brandon  33:19

an issue. No, no, we've had another lost one too.

Collin Funkhouser  33:22

Yeah, I think, I think that we were able to jump in and record quickly with that. Maybe something,

Brandon  33:27

well, we did something, I don't know, but, like, No, we did it. We did it. You put an old one. You just, like, reposted one of the one most popular old I did. I did because something happened with the recording. It was, like, super corrupted and, like, broken, right? And I

Collin Funkhouser  33:41

couldn't download it, okay? So, 325 episodes, yeah,

Brandon  33:46

coming up lost episodes. Only two lost episodes.

Collin Funkhouser  33:50

That's not bad. Years. I think this is fun, yeah? So, yeah, spoilers.

Brandon  33:55

The first lost episode had a whole in depth conversation about Jake the Snake, Roberts, so, yeah, still waiting to revisit that one, so we'll just see.

Collin Funkhouser  34:08

Oh, forgotten about that. The only part I remember.

34:15

Because what, what?

Collin Funkhouser  34:17

Why was that? Why did that happen?

Brandon  34:21

Yeah, I remember the context, so that's right. So don't worry, the listeners will have two haikus for you this week. I'll hit you up with the Lost haiku. We won't let that one stay lost.

Collin Funkhouser  34:31

Okay, no, we'll bring that back. But yes, so deepest, sincerest, yeah, sorry. You

Brandon  34:46

so if you're wondering, man, what happened to pip in the three chapters from the last episode, he was a whiny baby, right? There you go. It was a whiny baby. And every in reading these last three chapters. From this week. Oh, still, a whiny baby. And I think I want a book about Herbert instead. I feel like that's what

Collin Funkhouser  35:10

can we? Okay, okay, we're doing this right now. We're in chapters. We need to do this. Okay, so this week we, yeah, sorry, we're not talking about chapters 25 to 27 we're moving ahead, we got to get to chapter 30. Because what I thought, I thought last week's were awkward and weird and well, they were this week, this, this, this week's though,

35:35

also awkward, weird,

Collin Funkhouser  35:37

also right,

Brandon  35:38

like, but I just feel like, you know, how, like, some authors write sequels to books that they didn't write, right? Like, how, what is it? You know, the HOLD ON again. I know that you've missed silently googling things on the line here. Um, everybody loves this. Yeah, so how? Like the Wide Sargasso Sea is actually like a prequel to Jane Eyre, right? But it's not written by Charlotte Bronte. It's like a completely different person wrote it way later. That's what I need, the Herbert book. I need, the Herbert Pocket Compendium to a great expectation, because I feel like every chapter where there's much Herbert I like better than all the ones where PIP is like whining around because describing carpets again, Oscar, why did you pick this as your thing to do? Like and it's why did you just go, Herbert.

Collin Funkhouser  36:44

Herbert is normal. Herbert is well, round, well ground. It's like, anytime we get to interact with Joe, I'm like, Oh, my goodness, here is somebody, oh, a real person understands he's a real person. He's comfortable. Like, like, Herbert knows all of the shortfallings that he has here, except with the weird things about, like, capital and his some delusions about, like, how you just, like, make money, whatever. Yes, like, it

Brandon  37:11

just, like, appears magically. But again, I I know like you're not. I don't think you're supposed to, like, Pip, right? I just feel like you're not because, like you're this is supposed to be Dickens, like excoriating the upper class, right? And like how they're useless, and they don't contribute to society. They just hoard capital, and they hoard wealth, and they don't let anybody else have any access to it, right? I know this, right, and it's working, because I can't stand PIP at all, right?

Collin Funkhouser  37:52

Well, it's also PIP suddenly becomes such an unrelatable character in many aspects of his interactions with others and his thought process because of the that little level of entitlement,

Brandon  38:09

yeah, and I like, I know that's what it's for, right? Like, Dickens is saying that the wealthy have no basis in reality, right? They don't understand how the world functions, right, once you achieve a certain level of wealth. But you don't actually understand the world anymore, right? Because you're so far removed from like the daily life and the daily grind of like normal humans, that your opinion basically doesn't matter, right? This is still true in 2026 by the way, just saying all you are you internet crypto bros like Shush, no one cares.

Collin Funkhouser  38:53

Did you ever watch the show? Arrested Development.

Brandon  38:57

I've only seen clips of the show.

Collin Funkhouser  38:59

I is a clip of the mom in here, where she is. She's very, very wealthy. Hasn't been connected to the real world in a very long time. And she comes out. Her name is Lucille, and she comes up, and she's like, it's one banana. How much could it cost $20 like, she, like, she throws out this insane amount because she has no $10 Yeah. She goes, yeah. What? She says, how much it's one banana? How much could it cost $10 because she has no idea how cheap they actually are, because she can't think in that kind of context anymore, yeah. Like, how much does it actually cost to buy? She doesn't know it's this wonderful. Like, glimpse into this complete disconnection from the real world. And we see that in pit. Like PIP aspires for that, for the disconnection, for the for the chasm. It's. Between him and society.

Brandon  40:02

Yeah, and like, I was reminded this week when I was reading about PIP being a numpty that I saw part of an interview one time about, like, how completely useless King Charles is as a human right. And it was talking about, like there was a guy he I guess he used to work for him, right? And they he called him to come into the office because a piece of paper had fallen into the trash can, and he needed him to get it out for him. Yeah, like, this is the level of complete uselessness that is achieved when money is involved, and when you've been raised that way, right, especially if you've been raised that way, like, if you come into it later, like, maybe, but you become useless, as Pip has, Right? Like you just are boring and useless, and you don't know how to do things like, apparently even pick up a piece of paper. This becomes too taxing for you, right? You can see why Princess Diana was so distressed all the time.

Collin Funkhouser  41:16

There was no undoing anyway, distressed.

Brandon  41:21

You could see why the what's the younger kid's name, the younger Prince's name that's been disassociated from the family nowadays? Yeah, or his wife is so like, Yo, what is wrong with all your people? Yeah, right. Like, yes, you good question, absolutely.

Brandon  41:53

So like, yeah, that's what. This is the vibe I'm getting this week from PIP here. And I just like, I know, I don't know, like just like Herbert actually makes sense, right? Also, I like the way that Dickens writes the dialog between them, and when it's just pips voice only, like describing things, it's kind of boring, and he rambles a lot, but whenever he's talking to Herbert, like it flows a little bit better and is more interesting, sure. And since this book, really, since we've gone 250 plus pages and like nothing is happening, like it's I gotta take what I can get, right.

Collin Funkhouser  42:44

Like, yeah, yeah, you have to get and I think, I think that's also what we get here. Is, um, Pip when he's talking with Herbert, Herbert, like, you said, is, is is actually advancing the thought, and we get some of the background with this, and it actually pulls because otherwise we're just kind of faffing about during these other things. And like, there is a lot of faffing

Brandon  43:16

about it's I was thinking about that today too. Like, if somebody in 1850s London is reading this weekly, some of these chapters, like, how did, how did they be? Like, yeah, I definitely have to figure out what happens next time. Like, what like,

Collin Funkhouser  43:36

well, and that may be that may also be a commentary on this, it in that like nothing is happening because they these people don't do anything. They're vapid and useless. Yes, they're vapid and useless. So it's not surprising that their lives are boring and mundane, like we get more like insight into other people's lives than what PIP has been doing. We don't know. I don't know what he's been doing for. I don't know years at this point.

Brandon  44:08

Yeah, I mean he's, yeah, he's supposedly, I think he's about when we were around 20 years old. I think right now, somewhere in there, I believe, is where we are. Yeah, and he's just been, like, hanging out

44:27

reading, I guess,

Collin Funkhouser  44:32

cool, like, I don't know that's exactly what has been happening. And I'm going okay, because that that is what Mr. Pocket does for a living. He reads with people that's supposed to be education and enlightening, and heroes Dan being enlightened. And I love like, we're okay. We've obviously jumped to the chapter 30 here, but

Brandon  44:51

like, okay, yeah, back up. We'll back up slightly to 28 right? 2828 is what happens. Okay? This again, random chapter. Just. So that you know that random stuff that happened at the beginning matters, right? That's all this chapter is, right? We're going like, he feels guilty about Joe, and he's like, Oh, but Miss Harrison said she wanted to see me, so I gotta go back to wherever, right? So I gotta load up, okay, I gotta load up in the stuff. And then he's like, Oh, I should go stay with Joe. And then very quickly, he talks himself out of it. He's like, no, no, I'm gonna stay at the hotel. Because, like, he's just, like, making up excuses to, like, talk himself out of it, because he, like, doesn't really want to go do it. And so he's like, Oh no, they, you know, I don't want to surprise. I won't be expected. They won't have any, you know, they have room for me. And then, well, blah, blah, blah, so I'm gonna go stay there, and then I'll go see him later, right? And then later he talks himself out of doing that all together. But anyway we go. He's gonna take a carriage, whatever, and he's not looking forward to going back there. Just, he just wants to go see Miss habersen, really. He doesn't really want to see anybody else. And apparently it is commonplace in 1850s England, for if you have to do a prisoner transport, you just like throw him on the wagon with everybody else.

Collin Funkhouser  46:18

Oh, it's great. With people. They're incensed by this. They're not happy with

Brandon  46:29

what's going on. Yeah, I mean, and it's really kind of, it's a bizarre scene, right? But, you know, we we get up there and, oh my gosh, you'll never guess who one of the convicts is. Whoa, it's the second guy, the

Collin Funkhouser  46:48

right guy who made a weird like, finger Gunny thing,

Brandon  46:53

yeah, the finger gun guy, Fonzie convict with the file, right? Like he That's him, right? And so he PIP recognizes him. We don't think he recognizes Pip, right? We don't think so, but it does come to pass that we are for sure about this, because as they're all sort of nodding off and sleep, the convicts are talking to each other, and he is relating the story to the second convict. Right about what happened? He's like, Yeah, there was this one dude, and he told me that to find the boy who didn't turn him in and kept his secret and give him some money as like, thank you. And the other dude's like, why'd you do that? You should have just kept the money. Bro. Like, what?

Collin Funkhouser  47:42

He's very confused, and rightfully so. They're convicts. The guy asks him, like, I mean, would you do this out of honor? And the guy was basically, like, her rump for rump anyway.

Brandon  47:53

He's like, I just kind of wanted to see what would happen. Like, yeah. He's like, no curiosity, really, yeah. He's like, apparently a second convict is just very like, chaotic neutral, just like, yeah, we're just gonna see what goes on. Yeah, just wanted to see what would happen if I did this.

Collin Funkhouser  48:10

Okay, cool, neat. Yes, don't understand.

Brandon  48:17

So, yeah, that's, that's basically chapter 29 anything else happen here? To do 28 No, oh, we are 28 I mean, oh, except for when he's at the boar he he reads an excerpt from the newspaper that basically is talking about how all of the great things that happened in this young and upcoming man's life were due to Mr. Pumblechook, who has been talking himself up greatly, apparently, because they're like, Hey, you want me to go send for him? And he's like, No, why would you want me to why would you say that? And he brings in the paper. He's like, maybe you should read this.

Collin Funkhouser  49:10

Yep, and it also is a little glimpse into just how, like, really the gravity of what's happened, because this is something that I just don't like this. This is an absolute world changing, not just for PIP, but also for his entire community. Apparently, yes, that's the other part where I'm like, really, like, really, okay, okay, yeah, because he's part of he's ascended right now, and that's true. Yeah, that's this pointing back, pointing back to the the what you've talked about before is the gulf between the classes here and now they have one of theirs as one of them, and it's, ah, amazing, yeah. Except for. Or it's not really okay. They don't know. They don't know that world don't know.

Brandon  50:06

Yeah, so anyway, that was chapter 28 It was weird. And then, oh, dear Lord, chapter 29 happens. And if you needed more proof that Miss Habersham is a crazy person and quite possibly the worst person ever. It's this chapter two.

Collin Funkhouser  50:27

I tried to speed read through this. It was so painful.

Brandon  50:32

It was, yeah, this is like, when you get that, like, secondhand embarrassment for things, right? You're like, you don't want to watch, like a TV show, because it's just like the character is like undergoing too much embarrassment. It's like too horrible. That's what's happening this chapter. It's not great if you start off with a bit of a surprise. Though, your man's pimp goes to see Miss Havisham, and he's like, Oh, hey, there's a doorman Butler guy here, and the doorman Butler guy opens the door and he turns around. He's like, What are you doing here? It's Orlick, right, being snide and vague and hateful and dumb. He just like, evades every single question. Like, Well, how did you get here on my own two legs? Well, what do you like?

Collin Funkhouser  51:30

When did you get here and or looks like, well, must have been after you left, yeah,

Brandon  51:35

sometime between when you left and now, well, are you doing good here? Well, I ain't doing no harm. Like, what that's,

Brandon  51:49

did you have left the forge? Then, does this look like a forge to you? Like, oh my gosh, you cagey bum. What do you talk

Collin Funkhouser  51:56

well and, and to talk about, like, the fever pitch that that PIP has been worked up to. He has this statement before he gets to Orlick, which is, like, again, we have to, I'm trying to like, why PIP is so like on, he's so worked up and because he says she miss Haversham reserved it as in this building to restore, for restore the desolate house, admit the sunshine into the dark rooms, set the clocks are going and the cold hearts a blazing tear down the cobwebs, destroy the vermin. In short, do all the shining deeds of the young Knight of romance and marry the princess. Okay? Like, yeah, really.

Brandon  52:41

And I think, I think the reason he's going off on this is because later again, when we're talking to our boy, Best Boy, HERBIE. Right, Pip does have this sense of, like, sorrow, because, like, at least Herbert has, like, a goal, right? Like, Herbert, like, wants to do things. Like he's not, maybe not entirely sure how he's gonna go about doing them, but like, he has a plan, like, he wants to do insurance, wants to do these things and blah, and PIP is just sort of like vibing, right? He doesn't really have Stella, yeah, he doesn't have a purpose. No, he's not, like, working towards anything. You know, at least Herbert is trying to work towards something, right? He has a job in the counting house, so he's at least like, getting exposed to, like, accounting and, like, record keeping and and all this stuff, right? So, like, at least, he's kind of, like, near the world that he wants to end up in, right, where PIP is just like, hanging out and, like, he's being a gentleman of leisure, and he doesn't really know what to do with that, and he has no like drive and no like focus. So the this, like big Tyra that he goes on about, like restoring the house and like making it worthwhile again, is like this is like, as close as he can come to like a plan, because he has no other goal, right? He's just like reading. Which, you know, cool, but like, he's not doing anything. And so I think that's where this comes from, is like he needs, he's, like, kind of latched on to this idea, this, like, big, over romanticized ideal of, like, restoring the manner and like, maybe fire in the brewery, up and like, you know, getting all this stuff done to like, as something to aspire to, whereas right now, he has, like, zero aspirations whatsoever. And so I think that's why he sort of worked himself up into this tizzy.

Collin Funkhouser  54:57

It would make sense. It really. Would I'm just, you're just agog going, I'm sorry, what?

Brandon  55:05

Yeah, he is a bit extra, a bit yeah. Again, goes inside, finds Miss Sarah pocket, who he keeps describing as green. Yeah. I don't know if that's because she's envious of his position, or because she is also trapped in a house with no sunlight.

Brandon  55:29

She's rotting away here, like everything else. They go in, right? He knocks on the door and he can miss however, Jim immediately recognizes the knock, right? She's like, ah, pips, rap, come in, Pip. Super creepy, yeah, not weird at all, um, but people do have a way they knock on doors, right? People have like, a thing they do.

Collin Funkhouser  55:58

I think this speaks to how few people She must get as well.

Brandon  56:05

Like, that's true. Well, also, I was thinking, also in terms of, like, in this house, nothing changes ever and so, like, not even the way that PIP knocks on the door. Yeah, right? If all the time he came here before he just knocked on the door the same way, like she was not, she's not expecting anything to change, right? Because she lives in a world absent of change, right? Yeah, she lives in this constant doldrums of nothingness. But it comes in, and she's with a person, and he's like, Huh? That's weird. I've never seen that lady before,

56:46

or have you done right?

Brandon  56:53

It's she's back, ladies and gentlemen, better than ever. Probably not, right? The lady, whom I had never seen before, lifted up her eyes and looked Archie, archly at me, and then I saw that the eyes were estella's eyes, but she was so much changed. Was so much more beautiful, so much more womanly in all things. Winning admiration had made such wonderful advances that I seem to have made none

Collin Funkhouser  57:22

he's still sees hers way over here.

Brandon  57:26

Yes, again. I don't know why we're obsessed with this woman. I know because, like, she's not cool. No, she's all. She just ate the whole time. And he's like, Oh man, but she's pretty though, like, we we are very developmentally delayed, because this is like, a very like middle school, like, slash High School, like, thought process, right? Like, it's like, we're only, and again, perhaps we're making some sort of commentary on the upper class, but we're like, we're only obsessed with how things look

Collin Funkhouser  58:01

straight. No, no.

Brandon  58:04

Again, totally not. Like how 2026, is at all. I mean, obviously you would say that. I know, right. But like, if you look at somebody and you're like, oh, they look pretty, that means they must be nice.

58:22

No, that sounds worse, right? Like incorrect,

Brandon  58:29

right, but we're only desiring things because of the way they look. Right? Again, it's very vapid. Is like very materialistic, like cultural realm that the ultra rich in the Victorian area live in, definitely not the ultra rich in 2026 No, I don't know why you would think that

Collin Funkhouser  58:50

would be different. Sounds weird for new Yeah, right. So like,

Brandon  58:55

the the fact that he's just, like a pining over her, it's always bothered me because, like, why he's even like, it's a lot of times, right? What happens is, like, you're like, Oh man, that person is pretty. And then you talk to them, you're like, never mind. Like, that can't

Collin Funkhouser  59:15

happen right? Right out of this is he is desiring her because she is to be desired, yes, and that's it, right? That is it she? Is she? He's desiring because that's what she is to be. And it's this, you said, the vapid, the emptiness, it's we go after things, just to go after things, right? It's There's no meaning, no purpose, no reason behind it. It's, it is because it is yeah, and I, and I think there's also just this, what he can't have, what's not like, what doesn't like. There's a little bit of that too, of because he keeps talking about this gulf between of

Brandon  59:57

yeah, she's like an. Obtainable, unobtainable,

Collin Funkhouser  1:00:01

and so therefore he like she is desirable because of that.

Brandon  1:00:06

Yeah, you know, it's kind of like, this is gonna sound like, mega sexist, okay, I need you to know that I'm not actually comparing women to watches, all right. But wow, he's looking at a Stella, like some people look at, like a Rolex, yeah, right. You just, like, why do you want a Rolex? Because it's a Rolex. Yes. Like, absolutely. Does it keep good time? Actually, no, right? Like, if you, if you want an accurate watch, you're not going to buy a Rolex, right? You're not going to right? This is what happened in the 80s, after, like, a bunch of the Japanese watch companies like Casio and Seiko were like, Hey, we've made these, like, super awesome course watches, and they're mega accurate all the time, Rolex went, Ah, crap. Well, you see, you don't want a Rolex because it takes good time. You want a Rolex because it's fancy schmancy, obviously. And like, they rebranded to be like, the ultimate whatever, right? And like, so a lot of people aspire to this like they I need, I really need that, right? I must obtain a Rolex. But why? Yep, like, you don't actually need that, right? You don't, you don't, you don't need it. It's not a thing that is required of your life, but having it shows that you are of a certain station, right? And it's like, kind of how PIP is thinking about Stella. Is that? Like, he's like, Oh, I can't have, like, we talked before, like, for like, five seconds. He was like, you know, bitty is not so bad, right? She's a pretty cool lady. But, like, but because of his newly acquired station, someone like that, who's actually a decent human is not good enough for him, right? That's like being a super, mega rich dude, but only wearing Casio, right? Like, people are gonna people, people think that that should be beneath you. Yep, right. But he's going for this, like, just solely because he thinks it matches his current vibe, and it's so annoying. And this whole chapter doesn't get back because they sit at this stupid table and Miss Havisham is like, Yeah, you should go walk through the garden with her. Oh, and walks through the garden. It's awful to read just because she just does not care at all. And he's like, don't you remember when we did this? And she's like, Nah, I don't remember that at all.

Collin Funkhouser  1:02:53

I don't why? Yeah, and, and, and all the

Brandon  1:02:57

things that he remembers her doing, right or, like, actual, real person things, right? Do you remember, like, running across the top of the barrels? And she's like, I would never do that. Yeah? And he was like, but you did, and I thought that was cool. She's like, Nah, that's lame. I would never do that. He's like, Oh, what about that time you snuck up here? She's like, Nah, I wouldn't do that either. He's like, what so like, the things that he actually thought were cool were like, real human things that people would do. And she is now, after she's been away in France and at school, like, who knows who she's been reading with, who knows. Like, now all of those actions are also beneath her, right? Like those are normal human things are poo poo, like we don't, we don't talk about that. We're all fancy full, yeah,

Collin Funkhouser  1:03:55

and also the setting of this too,

Brandon  1:03:58

no, in the rotten, overgrown, dead garden, where they can't

Collin Funkhouser  1:04:01

even walk without being like having to walk around

Brandon  1:04:08

overgrown bits of bush

Collin Funkhouser  1:04:10

and and so it's this again, this this setting up these two worlds of there's Reality, and then there's what he's walking around. And there he even notes in this time where he's like, yeah, the rod, the yellow of the dead leaves and the crumbling of the red were, like, the most beautiful things in the world to me at that time. And that going rosy colored glasses. Much, bud, yeah. Like, only rose colored glasses, right? Like, seriously doing this, yeah?

Brandon  1:04:45

Because, like, in a traditional, like period novel, just say, or fair tail, right? Yeah, in a, in a piece like that, you know, you would be courting the young. Royalty. You would be in like the perfectly manicured rose garden, right? You would be walking along in your best, you know, weekend attire, and you would be strolling through the Rose Garden on the perfectly manicured lawn with the lovely hedges and the beautiful flowers and the nice benches. But like, we're in, like the mirror version of this, right, like, through that we've gone through the looking glass, and now we're in the mish Haversham world, where it's just like decay and death and like rotting everything. So he's trying to attempt some sort of, like normal ritual, but in like, a very perverse everything is, like, perverse and wrong, like, Estella is pretty perverse and wrong in general, and the setting is wrong and like, it's just all bad, but he's like, trying to make it good. Like, he's like, he's like, Oh, this beautiful, this dead yellow flower was the most beautiful flower I've ever seen. You're like, you just want to read the book of smacking Pip.

Collin Funkhouser  1:06:07

I need you to stop Pip, because you're You're hurting me, bud, bro.

Brandon  1:06:14

Where is the red flag? Right? Is the red flower should be reminding you of a red flag, flag on the play. This lady is toxic, dude, stop, okay, just

Speaker 1  1:06:27

and it's not better because we go back inside. This is

Collin Funkhouser  1:06:33

the part where, oh my god, I'm going,

Brandon  1:06:38

Oh my gosh. This is terrible.

Collin Funkhouser  1:06:42

Now. Now they're sitting in the room, right?

Brandon  1:06:44

Yeah, and she goes, she goes to get ready for dinner, right? Who knows, maybe we have a costume change, I don't know, right? So, so, uh, Estella leaves, and it's just

1:06:57

Haversham and PIP well, right, yeah.

Collin Funkhouser  1:07:00

I mean, before that, he's, he's talking about, where was this? I did want to mention, like, what was it? Ah, oh, proud and willful. As of old, she had brought those qualities into such subjection to her beauty that it was impossible and out of nature. Or so I thought, to separate them from her beauty, this is the point, Truly, truly, it was impossible to disassociate her presence from all of those wretched hankerings after money and gentility that had disturbed my boyhood and from those ill regulated aspirations that had first made me ashamed of home And Joe from all those visions that had raised her face in the glowing fire and struck it out of the iron on the anvil, extracted it from the darkness of night to look at the wooden window and the forge and flit away. He cannot, like all of this is the same thing to him.

Brandon  1:08:00

Yeah. There's also something weird that's bothering him too. I can't remember. It's when they're still outside. I forgot I was gonna bring this up. Like she, like, the way that Estelle is looking at him is like, bothering him, right?

Collin Funkhouser  1:08:19

Oh, yeah. He can't play something. He he keeps like, something, there's something familiar about this.

Brandon  1:08:25

Yeah, he because he talks about, like, how maybe like, he thought, like, perhaps because her and Miss Havisham had spent so much time together that, like, they'd adopted similar mannerisms. But right the producer, remarkable occasional lightness of expression between faces that are otherwise quite different. And yet I could not trace this to miss Haversham. I looked again, and though she was looking at me, the suggestion was gone. Like what was goes on for several paragraphs, like he keeps looking at her, and like recognizing something about the way that she looks at him, but he can't figure out what it is. And it's, like, really bothering him for a while, and it's really bothering me, because I have no idea what he's on about,

Collin Funkhouser  1:09:07

no, no, but, but here we are. Okay. Dickens is great about this. There's something that, because PIP is a very visual person with PIP, yeah, something he's going to cue into it, which again, ties into why he's so attracted to Estella, because it's very visual, yeah, but like, there's a pattern here that he's trying to pick up on. And so he's, like, really confused, and I just anyway, so maybe

Brandon  1:09:30

we'll figure it out at some point, maybe in 12, somewhere between two and 12 chapters from

1:09:40

I what he's on about here.

Collin Funkhouser  1:09:43

One of the things was, I know we're trying to get inside now, but there is a point where Stella, sorry, I was trying to flip through my book here, Estella says, like she's actively telling him I have no heart. You see, yes, that part. Yeah, and I needed to get to this, because she she is to his face saying, I have no soft things. I don't care for lovey dovey. I'm no I have no heart and, like, basically telling him I'm not good for you. I'm a horrible person. And pips, like, Nah, it's in there. You're just saying that. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what happened, right before he started, before he like, though, what is this? What is this? What is this? Because then they like decide, then they decide to go in. I don't know it's whatever.

Brandon  1:10:45

They decide to stroll around the garden a bit more, and then they go inside. And then, yes, so they go inside, they go back to the room. He's gonna wheel around Miss Havisham for a while. Estella goes to get dressed. Oh, God. Then, then we get this weird monolog from his average about,

Brandon  1:11:13

about her. And basically, okay, here you go. Here's this. This sums up basically the whole conversation, hear me, Pip, I adopted her to be loved. I bred her and educated her to be loved. I developed her into what she is, that she might be loved, love her. And she just basically starts, like, yelling at PIP that he needs to love her, like,

Collin Funkhouser  1:11:36

love her, like, well. And he goes on to say here, because this is, this is good. This is coming from Miss Havisham. And we know what happened to her. We think, yeah, but if the often repeated word had been hate instead of love, despair, revenge, dire, death, it could not have sounded from her lips more like a curse, because then Miss Havisham goes on to say, what real love is good. This is, this is her view of the world, but she's trying to basically Institute and set up between the two people is a blind devotion, unquestioning self, humiliation, utter submission, trust and belief against yourself and against the whole world, giving up your whole heart and soul to the smiter. Yes, as I did, it was kind of okay, up until then, give your whole self, right, the whole world, like, okay, like, maybe not, utter submission itself, weird, weird. But then we go, like, to whom? The smiter She She is now turning the tables of what she's she knows Pip's heart will be utterly broken and destroyed by Estella in this encounter, and in this sense,

Brandon  1:12:54

well, I also think that she's trying to like justify like, the way that she's describing what love actually is. She's describing how she felt about this dude that left her, right? So she's also trying to, like, prove that she was not wrong, right? Yeah? So, like, she just, like, blindly went with this whole thing when, clearly, there were signs that he sucked, right? There were some flags. He had big flags like that. He was not a good dude, but she wasn't trying to hear it, right. She just believed him, and she did all those things, and then she got burned real bad, and now she's still in the same dress X number of years later, so she's

Collin Funkhouser  1:13:40

the one that truly loved, yeah, yeah.

Brandon  1:13:42

So she's trying to, like, justify her actions, saying, like, See, I wasn't wrong, yeah, right, this is what love, actually is, because I wasn't wrong, right? Although, like, like, it's okay, you messed up. It's fine, right?

Collin Funkhouser  1:14:03

Oh yeah. And then when she does this, she reaches this rousing thing. She gets so worked up, she stands for the first time ever, yeah, and who should walk in

Brandon  1:14:15

the door? Oh yeah. So that this part is weird. I was conscious of a scent that I knew, and turning, saw my guardian in the room. He smelled him. Yeah, first, which is weird. That's a weird way to introduce a character coming through you just, I mean, it's dark in there, so, you know, fair

Collin Funkhouser  1:14:34

Morse code notes on the table. Yeah, don't say you smelled somebody when they walked in the room.

Brandon  1:14:39

I'm sorry. Are you just like, I smell you, right? Like, that's very Silence of the Lambs. Okay, don't do that, but he smelled him first. I'm assuming his like cologne, right? I'm imagining what this is. We get being an idiot again, right? I This like two paragraph. Like, segue, he's like, Oh, he always carried it, oh, yeah, I forgot to tell you about this massive silk handkerchief he just has his pocket, and then he fidgets with, unfolds it dramatically,

Collin Funkhouser  1:15:14

so much so that he used it to, like, he'd scare people off whenever he'd start flinging it around or whatever.

Brandon  1:15:21

Yeah, he had it out and, you know, blah blah. And they sit back down, and they start going blah, blah blah. And then they go to dinner, right? But Miss hiversham doesn't go because she doesn't eat in front of people. And then Mr. Jaggers does his weird thing again, where he's like, how many times you seen Estella pimp? How many times 110 1000? And he's he only gives, like, the stupidest ranges of all time for like, every kid, when he's like, How many times did you do it? Was it twice? Was it 700 times? Like, the dude is like, five calm down. Like, what is this over dramatic? But he's always lawyering all the time, like he can't turn it off, like he just is, yeah, lawyering. So he's always, like, setting up some big thing, and he's always leading up to it with, like, some bizarre line of questioning designed to confuse you.

Collin Funkhouser  1:16:26

But, but again, I'm trying to also think of like, is there a role that Jaggers is supposed to be playing, because he is the facts based person of this, because he's supposed to be the lawyer true and like, is this another person? Basically, like, just pointing out the mere facts here of of this relationship that you have.

Brandon  1:16:46

I mean, I think he is kind of, because he's like, because I think he's just in his own strange way, he's like, so, like, clearly you love this girl, right? Like, how many times do you actually talk to her? Yes, right? You know, like, this is, like, he's trying to be like, the everybody out there should have this friend, right? Like, maybe he's not this insane and doesn't have a four meter pocket square. But like, like, you know when, whenever you're in middle school, in high school, and you're like, Oh, I'm dating this person. And they're like, Bro, why? Why? Like, Renald, they're trying to be like, Hey, are you sure? Like, what are you doing that for? Like, and then you're gonna be like, Oh, she's cute. And you're gonna be they're gonna your friend. Hopefully you have a friend. It's gonna be like, Look, dude, that's not good enough reason. Yeah, and I think that's what he's on about here. He's like, because, you know, he's walked in on this conversation about all this, and then, you know how much you should love her and blah, blah. And he's like, do you even know her, dude? Like, how many times

Collin Funkhouser  1:17:56

you actually talk to her? Yeah, yep. Like, in only the way that Mr. Jaggers can of, like, basically, like, accusing him of murder and making him feel great. He's trying, like, that's what I kind of like. I think that's what he's trying to do here. Yeah, look, even your lawyer,

Brandon  1:18:13

yeah, is like, I mean, also then, like, the dinner and he's like, not really looking he like, doesn't even look at her, like, he's not gonna look at her, because he's just not like, he's gonna avoid all contact with her, not looking over there, not gonna drink. I'm not getting into this. No way. Yeah, someone's like, he knows she's bad news and like, he's like, nope, not engaging. Okay, gonna look over here.

Collin Funkhouser  1:18:37

Non combatant. Enemy. Non combatant. I'm just over here because I have to be, because my boss is

Brandon  1:18:44

and it PIP even gets like, weirded out about how quiet it all is. And every time he thinks about starting talking, he just looks up and sees Jaggers staring at him through his glass of

Collin Funkhouser  1:18:55

glass. It's great. It's

Brandon  1:18:57

so wonderful. He's just like, stop.

Speaker 1  1:18:59

No, I and

Collin Funkhouser  1:19:03

he PIP is so they like, they have dinner, they separate. Miss pocket goes Sarah pocket goes elsewhere because she just can't stand this. And they come back, and PIP is sitting here, and he talks about this struggle of he's got, like, all of the the tummy butterflies and over exuberance for Estella, and he can't even like it's making him uncomfortable to sit next to Jaggers, who has like, wants nothing to do with her, because he said what I suffered from was the incompatibility between his cold presence and my feelings towards Estella. It was not that I knew I could never bear to speak to him about her, that I knew I could never bear to him, bear to him, hear him creak his boots at her, that I knew that I could bear to see him wash his hands of her. It was that my admiration should be within a foot or two of him. It was that my feelings should be in the same place with him. That was the agonizing circumstance so like he's i. He can't even be in the same room as this guy, because this guy wants nothing to do with her, and he wants everything to do, to do with her.

Brandon  1:20:07

Yes. So they go back in there. She's had another costume change. She has been bedazzled by some mishap, or some jewelry to look even more beautiful. I guess there's even lamps on now, oh my gosh. What crazy. And they're playing something. They play a game, right? Cards. They're playing the card game in the cards, yeah,

Collin Funkhouser  1:20:41

and then, yeah, we end right, but, but what does he do? He goes back, and he's in his hotel room, and he's, he's reminding himself of Miss havisham's word, love her, love her, love her. And then he starts trying to convince himself by saying, I love I love her. Yeah, I love her. I love her, and he and it wins over, right? Because all of a sudden, now he's super excited, and it's great. And can you believe it? What luck I have, buddy,

Brandon  1:21:12

yes, yeah. And then he also ends the day, but we in that chapter with him being like, I knew then that I was not basically, I knew that I'm not going to go see Joe at all. What like where Joe had brought me to tears? He said Joe had brought me, brought the tears into my eyes. They had soon dried. God forgive me, soon dried.

Collin Funkhouser  1:21:38

Why do you think this is the moment where he decides that he's not going to

Brandon  1:21:44

go see Joe. I think it's because we have to go back to London, because Estella is going to London, and she's supposed to call upon him when he's there. So he has to, like, go back. He's going back with Jaggers tomorrow anyway, and so he can go, you know, get ready from his very busy schedule, apparently. And so, like, because all of that is just over consumed him, he's just, like, completely thrown off any pretense of going to see Joe, right?

Collin Funkhouser  1:22:17

Like, yeah, I kind of got it that he knew that if he went to see Joe, he'd change his mind about Estella again, because, because he went, because, anyway, I kind of have that thought, Maybe I'm wrong on this, but I also see where it's like, well, Estelle is going to London, so he needs to be in London and forget this old life and way of living.

Brandon  1:22:38

Well, yeah, and I mean, because, again, he's not like he didn't want to be reminded of the thing that was actually real and actually comfortable, right? Like he didn't want to see, because in the last couple chapters, right? Joe was talking about how, you know, you come around to my house, you'll see me hard at work. You'll see a real man. You'll see what real work and real life should be like, you know. And I hope you'll judge me fair for it. He doesn't want to look at that right now, right? He doesn't really want to face that reality. He doesn't want to face the home that he left, the people that he cared about, because he can't face them right, right at all. So what he does do, however, instead, in chapter 30 is go wandering about town. Oh, right. At first he's like, I'm gonna go walk through the I was gonna take a walk, right? And so he goes, like, out away from town, right? But then he comes back and he's like, strolling through town, right? And he like, wants people to see him kind of, right, but like, from over there, right? He doesn't want to interact with them, necessarily. He wants people to see him from far away, and like, admire him from afar, but not to actually talk to him.

Collin Funkhouser  1:24:04

Is this pointed out to him very quickly?

Brandon  1:24:08

Yeah, so this dude, the another character who doesn't have a name, right? We have the trabz boy, right, who is the one of the shopkeepers. It's his like assistant dude, right? Like, starts following him, like yelling,

Collin Funkhouser  1:24:25

well, yeah, and like causing a scene for, yeah,

Brandon  1:24:30

yeah, you're disgraced. And like causing the big scene and then, and he can't, he's also, like, can't do anything about it, right? Like, he just has to, like, take it and walk on by, because that's, like, the gentlemanly thing to do, right? Um, like, he can't, really, he can't, like, beat him up, right? Here's what he wants to do. But like, he can't do that,

Collin Funkhouser  1:24:57

you know, especially when. The boy starts to say the like, he's taunting him now, right? He's wearing his blue, like, the bag over him, kind of, yeah, making like, of his coat. Like, make fun of his coat, right? Like, has a high collar. And he's like, What is he saying? Like, oh, don't you don't know, yeah, don't know. Yeah, pawn my soul, don't know, yeah, yeah. And he's making fun of pip, pip, yeah. And basically being like, Oh, he's too good for us. He's too good for us. He won't acknowledge us. He's not gonna talk to us. He's not gonna do this because he's he's whatever

Brandon  1:25:35

now, too high mighty. And so we go do this. He finds the coach and hops inside with Jaggers, and then goes back to London, right? He does write a note and says, Hey, your man's was being a jerk in the street. You should deal with that for me. And then he decides that he should at least send Joe some fish,

Collin Funkhouser  1:26:05

oh, and a barrel of oysters.

Brandon  1:26:07

Oh, yeah, right, like, you know, as penance, right? He said the penitential codfish and a barrel of oysters as reparation for not having gone myself, right? Because now, after all, I heard, Joe's gonna hear that he was there, so he's gonna send him in. Him a note and some fish to make him feel better.

Collin Funkhouser  1:26:27

I love this, because then PIP has this interaction. But first we know that Herbert's here, and her was like Herbert, the best character is here. Finally, HERBIE, come on buddy. Well before we get there, he's got to interact with the Avenger, which is his little like helper, like page boy, or whatever. Yes, and I love this, because he's like, he's like, he's got to send him away, because he knows that he'll he's not what he's about to say, shouldn't be sent around him. And he says, like, a better proof of the severity of my bondage to that taskmaster could scarcely be afforded than the degrading shifts to which I was constantly driven to find him employment again.

Brandon  1:27:10

Yeah, he PIP is he only has this kid as a servant because that's what you do when you're wealthy. You have to have a servant, right? That's a thing that you have. And so he's employed this child of the washerwoman to be his servant. But he doesn't really need serving. No? He said he lives in a little, tiny apartment with Herbert, and he doesn't need him, and he doesn't know what to do with him, because he doesn't come from wealth. He has no idea what a servant is supposed to do. Supposed to do, so he just, like, makes up crap for him to do. And my favorite was sometimes he sends him blocks away to tell me what time it is off the big clock on the church

Collin Funkhouser  1:27:52

to see what, see what a clock it was. Yeah, and it's also just this, this picture of because he calls this like, so the severity of my bondage to that task master, and it's like, Pip, you brought this into your life. Like you. You're the one who said you needed this. Okay? Like you, yes, you Oh, he's got, like, he's got all twisted his mind, like he's resentful of this, yeah, you could just

Brandon  1:28:23

let him go. Just fire him, right? Yeah, you know, anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway. So we're hanging out with Herbie, right? Best character, yeah. And he's like, he's like, my dear Herbert, I have something very particular say. And he's like, all right, tell me. And he's like, I adore Estella. And Herbert's like, yeah and, and he's like, but I do. He's like, Yeah, bro. Everyone knows that.

Collin Funkhouser  1:29:00

He's like, but I haven't said it and she, and he's like, What do you mean? Like, not stop talking about her. Since I've since you've shown up,

Brandon  1:29:14

how do you know it? I said, How do I know it? Handle why? From you? I never told you. Told me. You have never told me when you have got your hair cut, but I have the sense to perceive it. Yes, you have always adored her ever since I have known you. You brought your adoration and your portmanteau here together. Told me why. You have always told me all day long,

Collin Funkhouser  1:29:40

when you told me your own story, you told me plainly that you began adoring her the first time you saw her.

Brandon  1:29:47

Will well, okay, I have never left off adoring her, and he's just like we know. Oh.

Brandon  1:30:00

Yeah, but then again, we do get this weird again. He's like, luckily, lucky for you. Then handle said Herbert that you are picked out for her and allotted to her without encroaching on forbidden ground. We may venture to say that you can, that there can be no doubt between ourselves of that fact, Have you any idea yet of estella's views on the adoration question? Question. He's like, Oh, she is a 1000s of miles away from me. I said,

1:30:27

Absolutely, yep.

Collin Funkhouser  1:30:32

Patience, patience. It's fine, like Time, time enough she'll get there. Yeah, maybe.

Brandon  1:30:42

Oh, oh, it's ridiculous,

Collin Funkhouser  1:30:44

and he's still struggling with himself in this moment, because he's like, who am I? Who am I to deserve this? I'm a blacksmith boy. Who am I today? And Herbert comes back with a wonderful friend line, right? He's like, you're a good guy. Now I struggle to describe Pippa this way, but same Herbert. Herbert is playing the friend here, and he's like, HERBIE, HERBIE, yeah, her friend, HERBIE. He's like, you're a good guy, a good fellow with impetuosity and hesitation, boldness and diffidence, action and dreaming curiously mixed in him. It's like, I

Brandon  1:31:26

don't know about that. I like, I stopped for a moment to consider whether there really was this mixture of my character. On the whole, I by no means recognize the analysis, but thought it not worth the speech. Sure. Okay, I don't know. It's like, whatever. So we also find out that Harvard is engaged as well, also Affianced, as it were, right? And he's like, Yeah, well, you know, I've, you know, I've got to do this and blah, blah. But he also does say, like, oh, where does he go? Where? He's like, Hey, I'm gonna make you mad at me for just a minute. Yeah, right?

Collin Funkhouser  1:32:18

Like, yeah. He's like, now pardon me for treading on ground that I shouldn't go here and making you uncertain and avoiding forbidden ground, as you did just now. Just say this constantly. He, he makes this statement Herbert's, I think, before he gets to the like he's against, because I love that point that Herbert is trying to make there, Herbert points out. He says, didn't you what he says? Likewise, it seems to me that concentrating our attention on the examination, we all together overlook one of the best points of the animal. He's talking about, the horse here. Didn't you tell me that your guardian, Mr. Jaggers, told you in the beginning that you were not endowed with expert expectations only, and if, even if, he had not told you so, there was a very large, if I grant, could you believe that, of all men in London, Mr. Jaggers, the man to hold this present relations towards you, unless he were sure of his ground, he's trying to say, like, there's so much more for you in the world than than these things too. Yeah, right. Like, is that, am I getting that right?

Brandon  1:33:24

No, no. He even says, handle I am quite free from the flavor of sour grapes upon my soul and honor, not being bound to her. Can you not detach yourself from her? Oh, yes, I told you I should be disagreeable. Where, like, there's nothing in the contractual obligation with the Mr. Jaggers, Miss Haversham, like, there's no writing that says you have to, yes, pursue her. Yeah, right. He's basically, Hey, is it like, do you have to go after her? Right? Is that, what is that required of you? Is that in your contractual obligation? And he's like, no. He's like, then why? Yeah. He's like, so you could pursue other things, poor people, if you wanted to.

Collin Funkhouser  1:34:10

Yeah, and here, here we have this great he doesn't say what emotions he had, but instead, Pip says, I turned my head aside for with a rush and a sweep like the old Marsh winds coming up from the sea, a feeling like that which had subdued me in the morning when I left for the forge, when the mists were solemnly rising, and when I laid my hand upon the village finger post smote upon my heart again. There was a silence between us for a little while, and in that moment, back at the finger post, was this longing for what he was walking away from, yes,

Brandon  1:34:51

right, yes. When he first left, right, he was thinking about all the things, all the good things he's gonna be leaving Joe and. The house, and his sister, even and bitty, and the job at the town, and all the things that he knew right, like he was, he really sure that he wanted to leave that Yep. And now he's going, Ah, am I really sure I want to do this?

Collin Funkhouser  1:35:19

But he he, he hardens again, right? And he's like, no impossible. You can't try handle no impossible.

Brandon  1:35:29

Okay, well, I tried, yeah. He's like, All right, anyway.

Collin Funkhouser  1:35:37

Oh, and, and then he goes in to talk about marriage and how like he says. Now, may I ask if you ever, if you have ever had an opportunity of remarking down in your part of the country that the children of not exactly suitable marriages are always most particularly anxious to be married. Basically, he's saying, Hey, have you ever noticed that, like, the two people that probably shouldn't get together, or, like, the two people that, like, don't make sense getting together always ones rushing to get married? Yeah.

Brandon  1:36:13

Or, well, I thought that meant like, people who's like, whenever I was taking that to mean, like, Are you like, have you noticed that people whose parents aren't exactly suited to be each other, all of their kids are always like, really want to get married? Like, real bad, right? Oh, okay. When he says that the children of not exactly suitable marriages are always most particularly anxious to be married. Oh, I see Yes, right? So I was thinking about, like, his parents, right? Like, yeah, well, because his dad, who, like, works all the time, and his mom lays around set a reading books,

Collin Funkhouser  1:36:53

that's okay. I misread that, because then he does go on to basically say, like, he lists all of his siblings and Him who are like, we're all scheduled. We're like, we all we're all getting married, or like, we're on that road, right?

Brandon  1:37:06

He's like, You are too. And he's like, yes, but it is secret. I assured him of keeping this secret and begged to be favored with further particulars. It's like, Yo spill it, brother. What do you mean? Can't just be hiding that. So he's apparently engaged with somebody named Clara, who lives in London. He is not particularly excited about this. She is rather below my mother's nonsensical family notions her father had to do with the victualling of passenger ships. I think he was a species of Purser. And what is he now? He is an invalid now. He's like,

Collin Funkhouser  1:37:46

and I love the like, and he said he's trying to,

Brandon  1:37:50

yeah, he's like, living on. He's like, the first floor. He's like, That's not what I was gonna ask. But okay, fine.

Collin Funkhouser  1:37:58

I love that living on, because he's trying to say, like, what? Like, where's his money come from?

Brandon  1:38:03

Yeah, yeah. He's trying to say, like, how is he, yeah, like, what is he? Did he have, like, a pension? Did he, like, make a fortune? And he's like, the first floor of the house that she lives in. We have to remember European first floor. You American. Second floor, second floor. That's what's happening here.

Collin Funkhouser  1:38:22

Because she always keeps him overhead, and he makes he's

Brandon  1:38:25

always like banging around,

Collin Funkhouser  1:38:28

and I love Did you? Don't you expect to see him? Oh, I constantly expect to see him, because I never hear him without expecting him to come tumbling through the ceiling.

Brandon  1:38:39

I do not know how long the Raptors. He's always banging around with some like, terrible contraption, right? But then he kind of gathers in, kind of like forlornly as he's kind of trailing off. He's like, but you can't marry, you know, while you're looking about you, right? So he's saying, like, even though I am to be married, he's like, I can't be because I don't have any prospects, yep, right? I don't have any job or money or savings, right? So I can't get married right now. This is actually, awkwardly, the same argument that Ebenezer Scrooge uses to not marry that lady in A Christmas Carol, except for he just doesn't have enough money, whereas Herbie has, like, zero. But like, I, like, also, after we contemplated the fire, yep, he reaches into his pocket and he realizes that he has the playbill that Joe left for him about the actor, oh, yes, and it was from the church where they went. Yeah, right. Yeah, and he said, Oh, it's today. And so him and Herbie decide that they're going to go see the play right when Herbert told me that his Affianced already knew me our reputation and that I should be presented to her, and we had warmly shaken hands upon our mutual confidence. We blew out the candles, made up our fire, locked the door, and issued forth in quest of Mr.

Collin Funkhouser  1:40:26

Wopsle and Denmark.

Speaker 1  1:40:30

Right again, because the play is Hamlet.

Brandon  1:40:36

So it's very nice, very nice. I like how we like we keep dancing around. I won't say the word Hamlet, but because, you know, but it's literally, it's very interesting. Like, he just, is, I like, how he, like, keeps alluding to it, like, oh yes, we're going to go see the Prince of Denmark. Yes, not actually the Prince of Denmark Hamlet, talking about Hamlet. He's not traveling to Denmark. He's going to see Hamlet. That's what's happened. Why? Once again, the best chapter was 30, because Herbie was there. So it just needs this book needs more Herbie wouldn't be sad when PIP does something dumb and makes Herbert leave. Be real mad about that? I don't know if I'll be able to forgive him if he causes great affront to Herbie. Because Herbie is my favorite character. Out of all the people in this book, he is actually the best character, like not even joking, like Joe was pretty good too, but like Herbert best,

Collin Funkhouser  1:41:41

I agree. So we'll see what happens. Oh, man, yes, okay, well, yeah, I'm expectations continue to rise for me as well as we what on earth the Dickens is going, Yeah,

Brandon  1:42:02

Dickens is happening. Do

Collin Funkhouser  1:42:09

you want to go with your Haiku first?

Brandon  1:42:11

Oh, yeah, I'll do I'll do the Lost Haiku, lost and then you can catch us up to current haikus. Right? For reference, small summary from last week. My my Haiku is about the menu for snow days. All right,

Speaker 1  1:42:32

the mercury falls as bubbles rise on the stove. A hearty, joyful bowl. Yum, boom, because

Brandon  1:42:43

you need soup on a snow day. Man,

Collin Funkhouser  1:42:47

Yep, perfect. I love it. Still fitting. Actually, turns

Brandon  1:42:51

out it's true, had soup tonight, actually.

Collin Funkhouser  1:42:55

So it works. That works. It works. It works spoiler. Mine's also about snow. I mean, fair, okay, a foot of snow falls. Tires, whisper, roads, slow to breathe, white miles, steady hands,

1:43:17

oh, yes, yeah.

Collin Funkhouser  1:43:23

I don't know, instinctually, it's things. When they were driving in snow, you just cracked the window a little bit to hear your tires going. It's great. Just do it. Just do it. People, just listen to your train. I don't know that's very it's always

Brandon  1:43:40

very interesting to see the things that we've the nuances that we've inherited from our father, the strange things that is a very dad thing, dude right there, like but don't worry, Collin, I put on a jacket to go snuggle show today, so don't worry.

Collin Funkhouser  1:43:59

My gosh, so angry. I don't know why my voice is. My voice. Nothing's wrong. Three minutes later, outside, hat, t shirt, it's negative five. No gloves, no gloves, and I'm pretty sure it was in house slippers

Brandon  1:44:22

shoveling snow off the deck, a place where you don't really need to shovel

Collin Funkhouser  1:44:28

snow off. Why I'm gonna I'm gonna go upstairs, lay down for a little bit good, take a nap. Seven Minutes later, he's back down. Gonna go play at the driveway. I lock you inside the house, is what I need to do to bar the doors from the outside. Hey, stay. Me.

Collin Funkhouser  1:45:07

Oh, well, here are your coats.

Brandon  1:45:11

People, come on.

Collin Funkhouser  1:45:16

Oh, well, we will. I am. You're not gonna make two copies of this as soon as we're done recording. All right, back it up in five different locations. Bingo, and we will make this work.

Brandon  1:45:29

I was wondering last week. I was wondering too, like, did we just hit the record button? And, like, I'm just so used to, because I got to thinking it's like, Did it say the thing? Yeah, but like, it always says a thing, so, like, I don't even really register when it says the thing anymore. So, like, I've been staring at the thing that says recording, like this whole episode, like, just to make sure it's on. Yeah,

Collin Funkhouser  1:45:55

okay, well, we will that. Will this

Brandon  1:45:59

episode come out, we don't know who knows, yes, yes, we're gonna, will it Yes, yes, we will be fine.

Collin Funkhouser  1:46:06

And on that, on that surety will, yeah, okay,

Brandon  1:46:11

okay, Love you. Love Me too. Bye. You.