learning CPR
Collin finished a book. Brandon watched a movie. We speculate.
Collin reviews Edison by Morris Edmund: https://amzn.to/4fL2K0j
Rembrandt by Gladys Schmidtt: https://amzn.to/3RoAisP
Collin taught a class
Brandon went to lunch
Brandon watched ‘Enders Game’: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game_(film)
Collin Haiku
Learning CPR
The stuffed dog survived again
Gold stars for the class
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SUMMARY KEYWORDS
CPR class, Thomas Edison, Rembrandt biography, Ender's Game movie, Harrison Ford, Ben Kingsley, psychological trauma, Battle School, Formic invasion, emotional connection, sci-fi movies, book adaptation, acting performance, visual esthetic, franchise potential.
SPEAKERS
Brandon, Collin
Collin 00:05
Welcome to Oh Brother, the podcast where we try to figure it all out with your hosts Brandon and Collin on this week's show. Learning CPR. Ahoy! Ahoy! How's it going?
Brandon 00:20
Pretty good. How are
Collin 00:22
you? Not too bad. Not bad at all. I know we have talked about this, but I was reminded yet again that I am falling in the line of Graham Bell, falling directly in his footsteps and carrying forward his great, great legacy.
Brandon 00:44
Are you?
Collin 00:45
Yes, by by using his preferred salutation of ahoy, not not in the the dirty lowly salutation popularized by Thomas Edison of hello. That's true. How gross! I know,
Brandon 01:00
gross. Even
Collin 01:00
like, and
Brandon 01:01
although we have learned bonus, it is how you say hello in Czech, right? So shout out our Czech friends. What's up? I mean, ahoy, ahoy,
Collin 01:12
so there we go. That's our. That's we have done it yet again, Brad. We have found the middle way where everyone is satisfied. We are approving both of the Green Bell and the Edisonian history. There you go. There you go. No, I yeah, I finally finally finished a book on Thomas Edison that I started probably ages
Brandon 01:34
ago, a year and
Collin 01:36
a half ago. That's all right.
Brandon 01:38
Sometimes you just gotta take your time. It's
Collin 01:40
but sometimes
Brandon 01:41
I also read books where I'm like, I can't read this right now. I have to do something else. Yeah, come back. I come back later. Yes,
Collin 01:49
I will say I think I've given this review before on this book Edison, where I don't know what primary resources he had the author had access to, but I can tell you that he had access to literally all of the receipts. It's nothing but like, and Thomas Edison paid $13,796.42 for the property next door, in which he invested another $394 for for wiring. Like it's like all of that. I am
Brandon 02:18
seeing why it took you so long to get through this
Collin 02:22
book, but my goodness, this is the book again. Dedicated listeners will be will be rewarded with this. In that, in that, this is the book that I think I talked about. This it the chapter one is starts with his death, and then each subsequent chapter is a decade of his life going back to birth. It's
Brandon 02:49
that is a way to tell a story. It's very memento, right?
Collin 02:53
Okay, Brandon, ready for this? Ready for this? Because the whole time, each decade, it's like where on earth did his interest in this obscure thing come from? Why is he interested in botany? Why is he interested in in electricity? Like every chapter, it's this decade of like he's doing these weird, insane things, and he's been experimenting, and you're the whole time you're asking yourself why, and. the way it's written, the last chapter is his early childhood, and his mom homeschooling him. And basically, there's this book about like everything you need to know about the world. And wouldn't you know, there's a a chapter on like machines, and there's a chapter on like pumps and cylinder, like it's all you go through the entire book and you're just like, oh my gosh, he spent his entire life just furthering each chapter of the textbook from whenever he was a boy. That's all he did, right? Like that was, and so that's the author's premise of like, how? Why did he like? He bounced around and he pushed the fields in so many different fields in so many different directions, and this author with without being like on the nose about it, he basically the author has an entire section about his education from his mom, and it came from this one textbook, and it's a laborious breakdown of chapters within this textbook, and you get the payoff of like, oh, hey, that that chapter about this is what he did whenever he was in his 30s, and this other chapter is what he was working on when he was 40s, and like, there's this interesting tie-in all the way back, and you know, even things like why is Thomas Edison deaf? That plays a big role for most of his life, and we don't like. There's just he he did he said, well, I never heard another bird saying after my. 12th birthday, and that's all he ever spoke publicly about it. And you're like, whoa. So, anyway, like all that stuff, and it because that's the whole point of like what drove Edison. What what was this whole like factor? And it was like his mom and a textbook. That's it. And then at the very end, it loops back around to his death again, and is a little bit more poetic about what must have gone through the mind of someone who the world was all silent to the world that he did, you know, this, this, this, and this, and this, and stuff, and like, you're, it's, it was, the back half of the book was pretty good. Each chapter is a slog to get through, but I I enjoyed it. My favorite anecdote was in an attempt. Oh, he was trying. He had just like one of his early early phonograph types. It would cause us quite a stir to play back audio, and so he took one of his early prototypes to a meeting where people were like, "This isn't going to work, and it was. And he basically was like, "I knew I wouldn't. His in his diary, he's like, "I knew wouldn't be able to say anything for so himself. So this was the entire meeting. Okay, he comes in.
Brandon 06:13
Oh, is this the? Yeah, I think I
Collin 06:15
comes in where he he basically presses play and he cranks and it's like, "Hello, good sir, and it has an entire conversation, and then he picks it up and he walks away. Yeah,
Brandon 06:25
that's kind of a flex, right? That's pretty.
Collin 06:28
Yes, you know what? I would do that too. Yeah,
Brandon 06:35
like it doesn't what now? I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of it working. Working, I
Collin 06:40
know. know that was I had played that that portion back a couple times because I was just like you know that takes some because he's like I wouldn't be able to sell this by myself I couldn't tell them how it worked so I just figured I would show them and he did
Brandon 06:56
I mean yeah yeah like
Collin 07:00
absolutely and to have one that like like greeted each person by name because he knew who was going to be in the room and like said talked about the weather and like all that normal stuff. He's just slowly cranking it and having it play back, but that's uh so yeah I I did I did finish a book this week.
Brandon 07:19
There you go, and I did.
Collin 07:21
I had to. I had been it had been on my shelf in physical form, and then I finally was like, I have to. I need to get this done. So I've been list. I list finished it out on audiobook, and so I'm working on that. So I'm done with that now.
Brandon 07:41
That's pretty good. I also am fighting with a book that's in between my other readings. Like I have a book, like I bought a book like ages ago, and like their shipping is like, I think it's coming by carrier pigeon, and they just have to like tame off. Like it's like the Pony Express of Carrier Pigeons are getting this book to wherever from wherever it's from, right? Because it's taking like ages. So I was like, well, I need to, you know, I need to read a little bit to like keep in the vibe, right? So there's this book on my shelf that I've been like staring at for ages, and I've tried to read it before, and I kind of like pretty quickly gave up on it, right? So I'm continuing to give this one a shot. This is the mo. This is one of the weirder books. This is a book that was actually the reason I have this book. It's because it was on Mimi's bookshelf.
Collin 08:33
Oh,
Brandon 08:33
right. And so this is just like a random book that I had, and this book actually, by looking at the inside cover, belonged to her mother. What? Yeah. So this is. I'm reading a book. It's called Rembrandt by Gladys Schmidt. It's like a 1961 like fictionalized biography of the Dutch painter Rembrandt for Van Norden,
Speaker 1 09:04
what? Right? Yeah. So
Brandon 09:06
it's kind of like it's like his biography, kind of, but it's like a fictionalized retelling. So it's like telling about major events of his life, but it's like you know, there's artistic interpretation here, and it's like you know, from his point of view, a lot of times, and so it's like, it's kind of odd. It's a weird genre, right? Like that's an
Collin 09:28
interesting
Brandon 09:30
one. Fictionalized autobiography of Rim Branch of
Collin 09:34
people. Why would yeah, yeah, I
Brandon 09:35
don't know. You know, I like Rembrandt, right? As stated on this show before, right? Those Dutch painters, you know, there's some sauce there. I don't really know what's up here, but yeah. So it's it's like it's like a historical fictiony biography situation kind of deal. So it it also does a thing where it's it's going. Chronologically, it's not going reverse chronological order, but we are. It does have, like, it goes through lots of Rembrandt's life. It's massive too. This book is almost 700 pages, which is why I've been staring at it for a long time. It is broken up nicely into like book one, book two, books like whatever. So like, there are some nice like stopping points. You can read for a while and then be like, "Okay, I have achieved a milestone.
Collin 10:27
I have turned a page.
Brandon 10:29
Yeah. Okay. Now we can take a break here, right? But it is a, you know, it's a bit meandery here and there, but yeah. So that is the book that I am fighting with because I've I've had this book for a very long time now, obviously, and I'm like, I need to read it. Yeah, but like, I like Rembrandt, but like, I don't know. We're still in the early stages of like, he's still like his early years. He's like gone to Amsterdam to study with his teacher, and it's about like the fights over like his vision of because he's like so good, right? His teacher's like, "Oh, you need to do it like this, and he's like, "Nah, no, watch. And he does it something that's like incredible, but it's like so good that like people don't really understand what he's doing because like the the traditional sense at the time, like the apparently the way that you practice painting is you just like paint, you like reproduce other paintings. Oh
Collin 11:32
yes, yeah, right. You do lots of like copies and to learn the technique and style.
Brandon 11:37
Yeah, yeah, and then it's like also it's like oh you need like when they're doing like the models and like you know Drew paint this but like imagine it in this like scene and a lot of them are like biblical retellings or like you know whatever so like think about this model in this Bible story and he's like nah right because he's like his drawings are already like really capturing the humanity of the person,
Collin 12:02
right,
Brandon 12:03
right, and it's like such a visceral like the person in front of him that like when they're like comparing it to what they ask for, they're like, no, this is wrong, but he's mad because like it's clearly not wrong. It's like clearly excellent, but like the teacher is like kind of, I don't know what to do with it. This is where we are right now. I'm not very far into this book because I had to like restart it because I did try to read this a couple years ago, and I got through the first like book part, but I didn't really remember anything about it. So they go back and reread the first little section.
Collin 12:41
That's fair.
Brandon 12:42
Again, because I was like, "Wait, what? What happened?
Collin 12:49
What? What did he do? Yeah,
Brandon 12:51
what was happening? What's going on? So it's it's like again, like, "Oh, I want to go art mother and father who are hardworking millers, and they're like, but what about working? And he's like, but arting though, it's like that classic family dynamic tales all the time, right?
Collin 13:12
So classic, fighting against,
Brandon 13:15
and like he doesn't come out and say it, and they're like, well, why can't you study with the guy here? And it's basically implied that I'm better than him, so like I don't know, like they don't come out and say that, right? But it's kind of like I can't really learn anything else from him because like I'm kind of already at his skill levels, so like I gotta do something else here.
Collin 13:39
Yeah.
Brandon 13:42
I kind of like the family dynamic, so it's kind of interesting. But it is also, it's a bit of a slog. So we'll see. Huh? They don't normally read like biographies or fictionalized. As you say, I don't asterisk. You gotta have any of those, but like, so this is also definitely not my genre
Speaker 2 14:03
of book,
Brandon 14:03
but like I just have it, so I need
Collin 14:07
to.
Brandon 14:08
Why not? Why not? Right? I don't like to have books that I haven't read. Right? I'm not a as stated previously. I'm not a shelf decorator. Right?
Collin 14:19
Esthetic reader.
Brandon 14:20
I'm not a esthetic bookshelf. Someday I will take a picture of my bookshelf, and that'll be the thumbnail, and everyone will cry because me looking
Collin 14:31
over at mine, going, "Well, we'll have contenders. It'll be
Brandon 14:35
it's great, it's great. I'll send you a picture of this one right now. But like, I have. I don't like to have books that are just sitting around that I haven't read because I don't, I won't put them on my bookshelf until I've read them.
Collin 14:48
Oh yeah.
Brandon 14:50
So like, I don't like to. I got. I'm trying to work through my pile of stuff. Sure. So like, I was like, "Well, let's try this again, and oh boy, it's
Collin 15:10
fight. The fight goes on. Yeah,
Brandon 15:12
it'll. This is gonna take me a while. I'm gonna like probably. I'm not gonna be able to like read it all right now. You know, I'm gonna have to like read parts of it, and then like I'll set it aside for a while, and then I'll come back to it later. That that is
Collin 15:31
that is an epic bookshelf.
Brandon 15:33
All right, do you like the book stacked in front of all the other books?
Collin 15:36
I like the stacks of different ways. The double layer, the double, and then like the space above the books, why waste that? Fill it with books. Yeah,
Brandon 15:45
you got to do that. Crab them in there. You know.
Collin 15:49
Yeah, you do. Of course, you do.
Brandon 15:52
Want to waste shelf space? Not
Collin 15:56
good.
Brandon 15:57
Every nook and cranny was filled with book.
Collin 16:00
I am. I have. I have taken to the fact that I most likely will not be able to. I will. I will struggle to physically read some of the books that I have on my shelf. So I am doing the thing where I am one by one selecting the trying to find the audio version from my library. Oh yeah, copies that I have, and I'm including that too. So I that counts. That counts. You
Brandon 16:28
know what? We'll count that you've you've consumed the book that way, right?
Collin 16:33
Yeah. Now and then,
Brandon 16:34
like,
Collin 16:34
I don't think the book, the architecture America, will. That's different.
Brandon 16:40
That's different. Yeah, you can't see the bottom of this bookshelf where I have like there's like coffee table books kind of down there. Oh yeah, they're like big, large, like referencey books. Like I don't count those. Also, some of those books in the middle there, the one in the middle shelf, the like the old books that are stacked horizontally on the middle shelf.
Speaker 3 17:00
Yeah,
Brandon 17:00
some of those I haven't read. One of them is in French, and then like I had a whole of them are like one of them is like a history book, one of them is like poetry. So like some of those are from Mimi's bookshelf too. So like I haven't read every single book on this bookshelf, but yeah. Aside from like two of those, we count it.
Collin 17:21
Yes, yeah. There's some in here that I'm. I do have.
Brandon 17:24
I do have like another section of place in the house where I have like other like a referencey type books like that. They're like big. Oh yeah. You know, like whatever. So. Oh.
Collin 17:33
There. There's a book that I've been meaning to reference a bit more. This is just my
Brandon 17:39
nonfiction bookshelf too, by the way. I love it. I have another.
Collin 17:42
I have that one. It's from 1955. It's called "Makers of the Modern World: The Lives of 92 Writers, Artists, Scientists, Statesmen, Inventors, Philosophers, Composers, and Other Creators Who Form the Pattern of Our Century" by Louis Untemmeyer. That is definitely
Brandon 17:58
a read, a little tiny bit here and there. Pick a person.
Collin 18:02
You pick one person. Yeah, yeah. Who's yeah? Yeah, because they have like yeah, they've got some interesting people in here. They've got Kierkegaard, everyone's favorite. Ah, Soren, what's up? Soren, Karl Marx, Susan B. Anthony. I could go. This is not people didn't tune in to turn to me. Listen to 90-two people's names, but here we are. So I like this. Yeah, I need to. I need to step up my game a little bit here.
Brandon 18:30
All right. Oh, my Tolkien section is not on the shelf either. Oh yeah, over here.
Collin 18:34
What is? What even is this? Why'd you bother sending that?
Brandon 18:37
Running out of bookshelves. I don't know. I don't know what I'm going to do here. I'm out of space almost.
Collin 18:44
Well, you can start sawing off legs of tables and using books to prop them up. There you go. Could do
Brandon 18:48
that. Well, I thought about just hanging a couple like small shelves over like my door, like my closet door. I could stick some books up there. Not using that way up space up there. Sure. Just sneak a big bracket into the studs up there, and I think he put a bookshelf right there.
Collin 19:04
I think so.
Brandon 19:05
I think that might work. I'm just saying, think about that. So, other than reading, Collin, what have you been doing this week since your Ender's Game is done? Catching up on your other stuff here.
Collin 19:19
That's all I've been doing. No, I I went no. That's this is pretty much it. I have my I have different colors on my calendar calendar that represent different little like pockets of my life, and for the longest time, it for the business it's just it's this weird purple color, and that dominated everything. And then this week, somehow there's colors in every single aspect that are all like overlapping, and like it's a little-it's
Brandon 19:54
a veritable rainbow.
Collin 19:56
It is a veritable rainbow of obligation, and I. Not here for it, Collin.
Brandon 20:01
Did you dump your Skittles onto your calendar? What is that? That's what happened. I think I
Collin 20:04
accidentally caught the rainbow, and oh no, it's all over my calendar now.
Brandon 20:12
You're supposed to taste it, not catch it. That's that's a problem.
Collin 20:14
That's the see. That's what happened. I caught it. Yeah, absorbed my the the ink absorbed into my paper. No, I did the only really fascinating thing that I did this this week. I taught a CPR class to more employees, which was nice. It's good. It's good. It just made for a really long day because I did it on a day where I also had a lunch at a chamber event, and so I had to get up early, drive down to do the lunch, and then I did the training after the lunch, which just and then it's a five day plan class. Yeah, five hour class, and then I had a couple hours coming back home, so it just makes everything. It made that day like completely pointless. Yeah, you know, and it was just right, like this is not good. So, I that's tough. That's that's a little rough there. That was that was rough. But I always enjoy the classes, and I've told Megan multiple times of like I don't I don't know what we're going to do when we eventually like start offering these to the public because I do it. It's it's yes, like I'm certifying to a standard that I have to, but also it's a lot of like internal jargon talk because they're all employees of mine, and so like we all know like I can point out an example. I just have to say the name of a pet, and they immediately know how it's relevant, or like we all like certain situations and how we would handle things, and so I'm trying to get out of my little bit of a routine that I've picked up over teaching this a couple times and being like, eventually, these people will have no idea who I am and will have no context for any of my jokes, and so I have to be ready. What a shame
Brandon 21:54
that will be! I know.
Collin 21:55
I don't know what I'm going to do.
Brandon 21:56
Or a fresh audience. Yeah, yeah,
Collin 22:00
exactly. That's what we do. Yes, that was it. Was a pretty laid back week in that respect. I still feel like I got nothing done, but here, here I
Brandon 22:17
is. That's not too bad. Yeah, I haven't really done anything either. I went like went to lunch with some friends the other day. Oh, I did have a funny anecdote from I can't remember. It was yesterday, the day before, because what is time? No one knows in in the summer. I was like sitting here. I was reading something, and Susie comes in. She goes, "Hey, so we have to go downtown real quick. Oh, oh! The the ice cream truck was set up down at the pavilion, so we had to go and explore the thing. Yo, the it's so good. I was not mad. I was not mad at this. It was just really funny. Get the car. We're going. Yeah, I mean that's pretty much what happened, right? This is how I spent my week. This is my most exciting thing. She was like, "Yo, we're gonna go right now. Pretty shoot design.
Collin 23:11
That's perfect.
Brandon 23:11
Get dressed. We're going. Now, Collin, I know that I said a minute ago that Ender's game was over, but there isn't a movie, and so I thought maybe.
Collin 23:40
Oh no,
Brandon 23:42
I could. gonna talk to you about this. Hold on, give me a second. I can turn my light on so I can read my stuff here. But I I have watched this, so you don't have to. All right, that's really.
Collin 23:51
Oh no, I I was oh no, I was vaguely aware that this existed, but I I will tell you, I, I, I didn't venture into any research or investigation on my part at all for this.
Brandon 24:12
Well, this before spoilers. All right, spoilers. This movie lost 60- million at the box
Collin 24:21
office. Like
Brandon 24:27
so, there's that. Now, part of it is there's a bit of blowback against Card for his like political stances. All right, there is some people that talk about the unfaithfulness of the recreation and how rushed it is. More on that later. And then there is a lot of people that blame the crowded market, right now. For the first time ever, I am going to give a little credence to that particular beef here, right? Yeah, so this movie came out november 1, 2013 Collin, a brief list of other movies that released between October and December 2013 Gravity, Captain Phillips, 12 Years a Slave, Carrie, the Jackass movie that everyone went to see, Dallas Buyers Club, Thor: The Dark World, Hunger Games Catching Fire, a little movie you might have heard of called Frozen, and The Hobbit Desolation of Small.
Collin 25:35
So,
Brandon 25:39
so when people talk about, oh, it was a really crowded time to release a movie. Yes, that's just the selection of movies that I picked that were like that everyone would know. Like, so, so yeah, maybe December or November 1, 2013 Not the best time.
Collin 25:59
Nope. To
Brandon 26:00
release a brand new movie like this?
Collin 26:02
No, I'd say so.
Brandon 26:06
Now, yeah. So even though, even though this movie is leaded led by Asa Butterfield, right? He plays Ender, right? Graff is played by Harrison Ford. What? Yeah. What? Anderson is played by Viola Davis, and Mazer Rackham is none other than Ben Kingsley.
Collin 26:30
Ben Kingsley, and yet,
Brandon 26:33
and yet, nobody in this movie is like acting emotionally in any way whatsoever.
Collin 26:44
Oh no!
Brandon 26:46
Whoever directed this movie was really falling down, right on the job, right? Well,
Collin 27:00
especially to have, you know, and well, so I can set see how somebody who did the screenplay for this would want everybody to be flat and emotionless, right? Because yeah, not supposed to like it's just a different society, and we don't have the same kind of things that we're concerned about and whatever. But like to Ben Ben Kingsley, yeah, what,
Brandon 27:21
yeah, so. So so Gavin Hood here kind of fumbled the ball, right? And and the weird part is is is the adaptation kind of unfaithful? And yeah, a little bit, which is really strange because Orson Scott Card has a writing and producing credit for this movie.
Collin 27:46
I'm sorry, that doesn't make any sense. No, what?
Brandon 27:51
No. So there's some parts in here. Like again, I am always the person that's going to be like, "Yo, a movie and a book are two completely different mediums, and things have to be different between them,
Collin 28:03
of course,
Brandon 28:03
right? But like, I don't know how much he was involved, but he has an IMDb credit for writer and producer.
Collin 28:13
He's like
Brandon 28:14
on this movie,
Collin 28:15
and he wrote the listeners. Yes, the the the author of the book was involved, at least to some extent, in the movie,
Brandon 28:27
and so I think, like I was reading some of the stuff after I watched it, and they they're big weird complaints, like like all of the psychological stuff that Ender like deals with, that kind of just like goes that's like gone. Oh, right, they it really is a like chosen one Superman type of thing, right? But like all of the psychological trauma that Ender deals with, and like all of that kind of stuff, like they don't really do that. Hmm. So, like, that's weird.
Collin 29:05
I don't understand.
Brandon 29:07
Yeah. Like the only like the only part that like they really dive into it is like at the very end when he's like upset about killing all the buggers for real. Yeah. Like that's kind of it. But even that part, you're like, bro, Harrison Ford is like asleep right now. Like, what is happening?
Collin 29:29
And angry Harrison Harrison Ford is amazing. And like, yeah, he's just yeah.
Brandon 29:34
I saw Air Force One. Okay, like what the?
Collin 29:37
Why is he being squelched?
Brandon 29:39
That's true. But also, old Harrison Ford kind of doesn't really care, right? No,
Collin 29:44
he doesn't. Like recently,
Brandon 29:46
like I mean, starting around a little before this time, like Harrison Ford in like in the 2000s I was gonna say, like doesn't care at all. Like after Y 2k he's. Like whatever, I don't go. So like there, there is that where like he kind of is just like whatever. I'm you know it's fine. I'm just here. They wanted me in the movie. I don't whatever. So
Collin 30:16
he's there to collect the check, is what he's there for.
Brandon 30:18
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So so here you go. Here's here's some notes that I made for this to kind of give you a taste here, right? Weirdly, the movie. You know how movies start off with a quote sometimes, or books start off with a quote.
Collin 30:33
Yeah.
Brandon 30:34
You know, this movie starts off with a quote from Ender Wiggins.
Collin 30:38
Oh, you're just right in there, aren't we?
Brandon 30:43
Right. It's the when I understand my enemy well enough to defeat them, then in that moment I also love him. That's the opening quote of the movie.
Collin 30:52
Oh wow!
Brandon 30:55
Yeah. And I wrote, I don't ever remember seeing a quote from a main character as the opening quote of anything before. Yeah, that's kind of weird.
Collin 31:04
That's there's a lot of there's we're really banking on an emotional connection to this later down in the later. Yeah, right.
Brandon 31:12
Like it's either it's either it's always either some like actual quote or sometimes it's like a made up quote in universe from like someone else, sure. You know, like sometimes that's a thing, right? But like not usually the main character. I don't know. Could be wrong. I'm not sure. But like whatever. So the okay. The first thing I saw. The first thing they show is video clips of the first invasion, right? So you're seeing the first invasion stuff, right? Now, I don't know what I was thinking, but like, Collin in the book, I want your thoughts about the first invasion. Like, did where did you think this was occurring?
Collin 32:02
I thought it was occurring in space.
Brandon 32:05
Yeah, me too.
Collin 32:06
Okay,
Brandon 32:07
not in Earth's atmosphere. No, because this is definitely a scene of like a bunch of alien spacecraft fighting F-16s. Okay, this is this is Independence Day. That's what exists. It's even better than that, Collin, because the dastardly move that Mazer Rackham pulls off is the is the Henry Quay thing from Independence Day, where he drives the plane into the what? Oh, is the or the Randy Quay thing, right? Oh
Collin 32:36
no,
Brandon 32:37
that is I wrote. He pulls an Independence Day exclamation point. Nice, right? Like wow. So that is how he defeated them, right? He found the ship and then he Independence Dayed the Queen's ship by flying his F 16 into
Collin 32:58
it. I am so glad that that movie was the Independence Day was published in what came out 1996 1995 so they had time to watch it so that they could put it into this. Yeah,
Brandon 33:09
that's they were like, hey guys, I know just what to do. I know just what to do. We'll go to the historic archives and watch
Collin 33:18
watch this film, Randy
Brandon 33:19
Quaid. Yeah, no,
Collin 33:20
no, this is totally a documentary. Trust me. Wow,
Brandon 33:25
and also the the they they refer it kind of threw me off too because they refer to the buggers as Formix for the entirety of the movie. So they've given them a name. Why
Collin 33:37
don't they call them the Buggers though? I
Brandon 33:39
don't know because they're the. I wrote why not called buggers question mark yeah formix so that I would remember right so that's they're watching that in school right that's and I that opening I was like oh god okay here we go now I'm already seeing why people are mad in this
Collin 33:59
yeah.
Brandon 34:02
And so, and so, Ender is also definitely not six. He is probably like 13.
Collin 34:10
Well, because they had to be a bit more real here, and that's probably the one credit that our boy, our author there, was like, you know what? Fine, I'll allow it. You get to be a little older. I
Brandon 34:19
feel like, yeah, being like yeah, six is kind of weird now that I think about it. Maybe maybe a teenager is good. He's still kind of like a small, meek teenager, but he's probably like 1312, or 13, right? That's why how he looks. He's still smaller than a lot of the other kids, right? They kind of play up at the beginning. Him being littler than some of the the older kids in the class at the beat, they're definitely like 16, right? That are picking on him and stuff. Um, and we like really just sweep in here when he goes to like it's boom, all that stuff is same, right? Blah blah. I take monitor off, punchy punchy. Peter's a jerk, whatever. When we get to the battle school shuttle, right? Ender is making friends already, right? Bean is on the shuttle, and they like have a moment together, which you know, whatever, because they got to cut off a lot of stuff later. But like, there we go. This movie does the thing where it is like, like the environments are like that. It's like the sci-fi environments that are like super sterile and like perfectly clean all the time. The thing that I've talked about in the past, I just don't like the visual esthetic of this. Yeah, right. It's like it's like weird looking, right? Like everything they look at, it just looks strange, and it it like I can't believe that people live here because it's like polished perfectly. Like it's like everything. It's just like so clean. It's like gross. I think part of this is like 2013 CGI technology, right? But it's also just it is a sci-fi visual esthetic, but it's not one that I like.
Collin 36:21
Yeah, the hyper clean, like it is. To me, it's also I don't know. To me, it's a vision of. In many sci-fi films, there tends to be this dystopian future where it's like like in the comparative like the clean versus like the the grungy lived in stuff. I've always viewed the hyper clean, ultra processed polish as the true dystopian because it's stripping out humanity, and and it's it's it is uncomfortable and just not like it's not fun to be in at all.
Brandon 36:55
Yeah, so it's it's kind of upset, but the whole movie has that vibe. So it's like, and so that's also he is writing letters to Valentine this whole time.
Collin 37:07
Oh,
Brandon 37:07
right, and that's kind of like how we're. It's kind of like voiceover narration. So like he's kind of like talking about the. He's like reading the letter, and then you like seeing the little montage of like some of the early stuff happening in the background, sure. Which is a nice. It's a nice way to kind of like get into the the vibe of the school. Like, here's what's going on, and like kind of gloss over some of that beginning stuff, right? Yeah. When he finally get like, but like the whole time he's like talking to a lot more people, like people are like more friendly with him. There's like the isolation and the psychological part of his like trouble is like not there, like that whole part of Indra's psychology is just like not touched on.
Collin 37:50
Seems really weird.
Brandon 37:52
Which is the main point? The whole point
Collin 37:54
was they talk about a lot. We have to keep him alone. Keep him alone. Yeah, yeah,
Brandon 37:58
yeah. We gotta keep him alone. We got, but he's just like hanging out with people, like when he plays the the the Giants game for the first time. Like Ali is just like sitting there with him on the bed, watching him do it. Right at the beginning, he is also controlling his character as a mouse, and I was really like, "What the heck? What is going? What is that? the The 2013 CGI and this is real bad, right? It's like it's it's jarring. Like, oh my god! Luckily, they really they do really cut down on the game part as well. Like,
Collin 38:36
oh good,
Brandon 38:36
which is weird. Like, a lot of that stuff is not. But like, they just do the giant. It's like him killing the giant, and then like to the room, like all the stuff from the playground and the wolves. All that stuff's not there. It's all gone, right? They really truncate that pretty hard. Um, so they do that, blah blah blah. They go to the thing. He's already getting traded to Salamander, right? And here they have made a choice, right?
Collin 39:08
I don't like where this is going.
Brandon 39:09
This is a weird choice to make, right? The guy they got to play Bonzo is like a foot shorter than Enter.
Collin 39:21
Okay. so
Brandon 39:23
that's like really like braggadocious, like brash, like outlandish, crazy guy is like four feet tall, right? I mean, that kind of tracks a little bit, but also it's like that's weird that he'd be so like threatening and intimidating to enter, and he's like littler than him. Little for what we know comes later. That's a plan.
Collin 39:47
Yes, it does. It changes. It changes on what happens.
Brandon 39:53
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the whole that whole thing is changed anyway. So maybe that's. Why? That was another big weird part about this that was messed up. Anyway, more on that in a minute. Um, when we get like we have some more stuff, blah blah. He's playing the game again, and in the game, he's already seeing like the bugger queen thing, right? So it's like already like kind of reaching out to him and trying to talk to him. Like we we just see it, right? Like kind of as he's going towards a thing, it's just kind of like there.
Collin 40:34
Oh, they're just that's what we're doing now. Okay.
Brandon 40:37
Yeah, yeah. So he's like, that's weird, but like it it's kind of like it's already trying to tell him something, right? So instead of waiting till the very end, I mean, we don't really know how long in the book it was actually trying to like identify him and talk to him and whatever. But like, it's visually already like, hey, yo, what's up? He sees this like bug mothy thing that's like, oh, that looks. I bet I know what that
Collin 41:04
is. Oh,
Brandon 41:06
right. And then the the timeline here is very confusing because, like, at first, it we see in like Graf's room, he's like talking to Anderson or whatever, and he like looks at a screen, and it it it seems to say that the fleet will be entering the Formic zone in 28 days, right? Oh, but the rest of the movie does not feel like it happens in 28 days, so. so I'm very confused about the timeline of this movie, right? Like, how long does this actually take? So, like, that's weird, right? The timeline is very confusing, um, and then we just go straight to Dragon Army.
Collin 42:06
Oh,
Brandon 42:06
whoop! We're just
Collin 42:08
there.
Brandon 42:08
Yep, we're just there now.
Collin 42:10
And he's just
Brandon 42:11
which again does address one of our problems with the book is like there's just so much battling against people we don't care about. Right, so much battling. The problem is, Ender never got to see other commanders command their army, which is part of his psychological development. Like, am I gonna be like Bonzo? Am I gonna be like you know the nose? Am I gonna be like this guy? Am I gonna be like the like? He gets to interact and battle against lots of other different people, which forms who he is as a person, right? Which is why he's very regretful of the first interaction he has with Bean in the book, where he's like way too hard on him, and then when Bean leaves, he's like, "Crap, I didn't want to be like that.
Speaker 3 43:06
Yeah, right.
Brandon 43:06
In this book, he's just like the cool, chill commander who like wants to hear other people's ideas and stuff.
Collin 43:12
Oh, he pulls he pulls his chair up and turns it around backwards. He does. He does.
Brandon 43:17
We jump right to that part.
Collin 43:19
Wow.
Brandon 43:19
Right. And now there is, there again is some like some time is passing because we see the board, the like scoreboard thing, and it is implied that Dragon has been moving up the board, right? So we like kind of just say they've been doing this for a while, yeah. Which again, kind of confuses me about the whole 20-eight days thing. Like, how? Like, what is? How long was this? How long did this take? Right? Because we know in the book he battled like every single day, so like he could potentially move up the scoreboard in like a week, but like also, that's a week, and that puts the invasion in like three weeks or less in a
Collin 44:10
whole week.
Brandon 44:12
Yeah, yeah. So we we come back to the the two and one battle. That's like the battle that we're going to watch now.
Collin 44:20
Okay.
Brandon 44:21
So like it's implied that they've been working for a while. It's not really implied. Well, I feel like they cut out some lines of dialog that were probably necessary for us to like understand that they've been doing this. Also, they the actors here they are all kids, so it's not their fault that they're not showing any emotion. It's the director's fault that he did not tell them to like look tired or emote in some way, like be upset, right? They're just like, oh boy, this shit doesn't stink, right? Like it's like, gosh, golly, yeah, right. It's like, and so like we go, we go straight. Here and somebody like does I don't remember something happens to somebody and then like they let Petra sub in so she's in the group now right boom hi Petra here like in this in this version like the relationship between like Ender and Ollie is like kind of there. Him and Bean is kind of there. The other kid, Shin, is like, who's that? I don't even. It's like him and Petra are like that relationship is like really played up for the movie, right? You know, they're like, oh, Ender and Petra, they're training together. They're doing stuff, right? Whatever. So, like, we get to the two and one battle. This is with we do the rope thing, you know. And the rope is also not a thin wire that's very invisible. It's just like a big fat rope. Oh, it's
Collin 45:54
just legit rope. Okay, it's
Speaker 4 45:56
really funny. Gotcha.
Brandon 45:58
Right. So, so you know, we whatever they win the thing and it's all blah blah blah, but like, um, they do the rush the gate thing and then this is why I wrote the timeline is weird again here, uh. So yeah, we do that now. After this, it's shower time, right? So we've jumped all the way to shower time, which in the book is like the end of the book.
Collin 46:32
Yeah,
Brandon 46:33
right. This is like chapter like 12 or 13. He's done, right? So we've skipped all of Battle School, and we've come to here, which is fine because Battle School is boring anyway. But like, whatever, shower time. Okay, first thing, it's Bonzo and two dudes.
Collin 46:55
Okay,
Brandon 46:55
so it's a little more even.
Collin 46:56
Yes.
Brandon 46:57
All right, and now. Now we get to the another thing that's weird, right? Like when Ender and Bonzo fight, right? Ender is only trying to defend himself, right? The way that Bonzo gets hurt here is it's the Ender shoves him away, and he slips on the floor and he hits his head on a thing. Oh,
Collin 47:33
ooh, you know that that loses that loses what the edge of of Ender doesn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Brandon 47:44
So he's not like the again the psychological aspect of Ender as I'm gonna end this. Right is not there, right? So the playoff on his name is I I'm gonna fight to stop.
Collin 48:00
Yes,
Brandon 48:00
all fights, right? Literally ending. That's what
Collin 48:05
everybody says. Yeah,
Brandon 48:06
right. It it's played off as an accident, and he's very remorseful, right? Because we see, like, he's not dead? Question mark. Because he, we see him, we we see Ender watching through a surgery window of Bonzo undergoing surgery on his head, right? So we don't like he might not even be dead. He may just be in a coma. I wrote in a coma? Question mark? I don't know, right? So like, it's weird, right? I wrote like it's not the point. They are watching Bondo have surgery, and then Ender says he wants to talk to Valentine, Valentine, and then he wants to go home, and he quits, right? I think Anderson quits also. Like everybody just quits. It's too much, right? And then this is where we transition to the lake thing, right? We're at the lake now, but that that part was just like, dang, you fumbled hard, right? Like this is the like is one of the most important parts of the movie. Is like Inder does kill him. Inder was acting with purpose to stop the fight. He didn't necessarily want to kill him? Question mark, but like he was he like hit him hard on purpose to put him down and stop it, right? By like being like, "Oh, whoopsie Daisy, you accidentally died, or got hurt. Like it really cuts away a big important part of what makes a character, right? And again. I would say, like, oh, I understand. Like, on one hand, like I understand where, like, you wanna, you don't wanna show kids killing other kids in a movie, right? But this movie came out the same year as a Hunger Games movie, so like, so you know, you know,
Collin 50:23
you made a choice. They made another one, right? Yeah.
Brandon 50:27
So, like, I can see their point of view, but also, like, yo, what do you mean? Not even the first Hunger Games movie, the Catching Fire one. So we're like into it, right? We already saw the first one.
Collin 50:41
So old,
Brandon 50:43
yeah. We already saw a lot. Was that right? So, so again, that's a clan. Again, we go to Lake, right? We're here, and Ender is like way chill and really open with his sister, and they just like talk it out. You know he's not guarded. He's not like upset. You know it's really weird. You know and and and then she convinces him, and then boop, we're going to space again. Let's go now. also, I didn't really like. This is another like part that I thought was weird because they say they're going to go to. They go to the the bases on Eros, right? Yeah, right. Which is uh, it's a it's an object in the asteroid belt. Yeah.
Collin 51:51
Yep. No weird rock.
Brandon 51:53
No, this is like a whole planet thing they go to. Wherever they go, it's enormous. It is not the asteroid, right? So in the book, right again, like asteroid belt eros hidden sneakily close to Earth, right? That's I'm not wrong in assuming that's what that's what I took away from the book. Yes. Yeah. Okay. No, I don't know where they go, but it's like way further away than the asteroid belt, and this thing they're on is big, right? It's a big planet, T thing, right? And now here is we just go completely off the rails, and everything else is just like wacky, right? Like it's it's all oh boy, hold on. Okay, they just like straight up tell him that it was built by the buggers. They're like, hey, it's cool, it's fine, whatever. This is a bugger place, and we're gonna hang out here because it's close to their home world too, where we're going to do stuff. You know, blah blah blah, and we meet. Oh God. Okay, so we meet Mazer, right? Yeah. He's in the room. He's sitting on the floor. He's doing whatever. Mazer Rackham, Ben Kingsley, has a Maori full face tattoo. Oh, and he is speaking in a New Zealand accent.
Collin 53:24
That's a choice. That's what I wrote.
Brandon 53:30
I wrote this is a choice. Wow. Oh
Collin 53:38
my goodness.
Brandon 53:40
Yeah. Yeah. So, don't worry, Collin. He explains it.
Collin 53:47
Oh, right. Oh, I'm glad we have a backstory.
Brandon 53:51
We have a backstory of the Maori face tattoo.
Collin 53:56
Ridiculous
Brandon 53:57
from nowhere. Okay, he he ends up telling him not like right not like immediately right a little bit later he tells him his dad was Maori and this yes okay yeah anyway so so Maser Rackham's dad was Mallory and so he says the tat connects them. This is how he's connecting with his dad, and how he speaks for the dead.
Collin 54:33
You can't. I I actually hug my head. I oh, so did I. I I
Brandon 54:40
was watching this and I literally went, "Oh no! You did not.
Collin 54:49
Nope. No. So, but so he's the. How is he supposed to be the speaker for the dead if that? Oh."
Brandon 55:00
Fine. He's just talking about his specific dad. I think
Collin 55:03
if you if you tell me that Inder gets a face tattoo, I would be so angry. He
Brandon 55:08
does not. He's not. That'd be hilarious. Like the last scene, he's like sporting a full face Maori ink. Like that would be wild. I was just like, man, the cultural appropriation is strong with this one, Ben Kingsley. What? Why did you? Why did you agree to this? This is wow, crazy. Not like Maori culture has been compromised by the English before, but oh. Anyway. Anyway, oh, also, all the kids are just here now, and Inter gets to hang out with them, right?
Brandon 55:52
So all of his like squad homies, right? Dink is here, Petra is here, Bean and Ollie and a couple other kids who were also there. One of the kids who like had beef with Ender at the beginning, like he goes like when we first get to battle school, he's like making fun of Ender, like a, and he's like, "There's a moment where he's like, 'Why am I here? You you don't or like he was in the army with him back at battle school, and he's like, 'You're why am I here? You don't even like me. He's like, yeah, but I think you could help us. It's like a oh oh blah blah, like whatever. He's here. All these people are here. Whatever. You don't really care at this point because like you're like, who are these people? I've seen them one side. Whatever. I don't care. Also, it appears that like they're all the colony stuff. What's that? No colonies. None of that. Right. We're not doing that. We're not doing that. Also, you'll notice we there is no subplot about Peter and Valentine being internet forchan trolls. Okay, that is that's gone. None of that at all.
Collin 56:56
With as jam packed as this has sounded so far, I can't
Brandon 56:59
imagine how. Yeah. How could you fit this into 90 some minutes, right? Like I don't know, 100 and some minutes. I don't even know how long this is. It's too long. It was even this, even this truncated thing. I was like, oh my gosh, how much more of this movie was there? Yeah, what? Right? Why
Collin 57:16
am I doing this?
Brandon 57:17
Yeah, yeah. And so like. Like, boom! So there's no colonies. There's nothing moving on the the home planet. Although, maybe there are colonies because there are a couple fights before graduation day, right? We do see some like of them fighting against the computer, right? Is it the computer? A couple of them are the computer for sure, right? And then it's kind of unclear as to whether, like, when it's not the computer anymore, like whatever. At least I didn't write it down because I didn't care. Yeah, no, that's fine. So, like, we do the thing. This is where I wrote for such an emotional story. None of the actors show any emotion at all. They're just like delivery, deadpan, dry, right? So, so we do the thing, they win, right? Ender is like this at here, like they win the battle. It's revealed that it wasn't a simulation; it was really the thing, right? It's a very dramatic, like pointed at the planet, like the whole deal. Yeah. Also, it's like it's upsetting to Ender more that like they they touch on it only briefly that he was like sacrificing all of his other ships to protect the big gunship, right?
Collin 58:54
Oh, interesting. Okay, so
Brandon 58:56
like they did play up at that a little bit, where like he pulls all of the other fighter squadrons away from all of the other ships to protect the doctor device ship that Petra's controlling, sure, so that it can get close enough to the planet to fire to get a straight shot. So he like pulls everything away. So all the other ships are just like blowing up, and he's like, "I don't care. We got to protect this one ship because this is the only shot we're going to get. So he's also upset about that, right? He's upset about.
Collin 59:26
Well, yeah.
Brandon 59:27
So that that is good. They put that in there. So because he's so angry, they like drug him and take him back to his cell, his cabin or whatever. But the kids like go with him, and Petra stays there for a little bit, right? Boom! Now, oh boy, hold on. Are you ready? Oh,
Collin 59:49
we're not done. We're still
Brandon 59:51
almost done, right? Almost done. So we're there. He is like looking out the window. Um, this planet, wherever he's on, this is where the giant thing was at, because he like he's out the window. Oh, so he sees a thing.
Collin 1:00:11
Also on ero, whatever it is, eros. Yes, yes.
Brandon 1:00:15
And so he like runs outside, and Petra goes, "You idiot, get back here and brings him the oxygen mask because they haven't like reseated the atmosphere yet.
Collin 1:00:26
Okay,
Brandon 1:00:28
you know, whatever. So, and she's like, "Let me go with you. I have to go with you. And he's like, "I have to go alone. They have that moment with Petra, right? And then he goes to this cave thing, which is the cave thing that he saw in the game where the queen thing was like on the screen when he was looking at. So he was trying to talk to him, and he goes in there, and the queen is just in there.
Collin 1:00:52
Oh, already alive, just there,
Brandon 1:00:55
like a couple 100 yards away from the entire fleet at the whole time, just hanging out.
Collin 1:01:04
Oh my goodness!
Brandon 1:01:05
Right, and he's there. He sees there's some of the stuff like the the mirror thing or whatever, whatever. I don't know. He goes in there. There's a live queen there, also an egg.
Collin 1:01:19
Okay, so queen and egg.
Brandon 1:01:21
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Queen has the egg is there, but the queen is like there to give him the. So it's not the egg talking to Ender.
Collin 1:01:27
Oh,
Brandon 1:01:28
it's the queen, the dying queen, talking to Ender and giving him the egg. I see. So like, okay, that's that's fine. Um, and then he just like leaves. Oh, and he's like, again, we have voiceover letter to Valentine, just being like, "I'm gonna go off and travel the universe. There's something I have to do. End. Huh? Yeah. Yeah, that's it. I wrote that's the end. That's it in capital letters. WTF? It's my note. That's official. My note here, all caps, grumpily. How do you like the movie just now, they have a problem, right? Because they got rid of the whole subplot that ends the movie. Yeah, right. And so it's like he doesn't even like. At least a better end to this version of the story is like him taking the egg and like sneaking it back into his like room and like putting it in a trunk and then like going off with his friends.
Collin 1:02:47
Yeah, you think yeah,
Brandon 1:02:49
like that would be how this movie has to end because this movie Ender is much more bonded to all of his friends, right? So he he has friends. He has a friend group. He trusts them. He's worked with them. Like the bond of friendship is stronger in the movie than it ever was in the book. Sure. So you would think that the movie needs to end with like him going with them, right? But like, it's just like a close-up shot of his face in a like. We're assuming he's like piloting a ship somewhere, and it's just like boom, done, over. Okay, and you're like, what the heck is that?
Collin 1:03:32
That's I don't. How do you just like? It's just like you just turn and leave at that point. Like I don't, I don't. Yeah, it's just like over.
Brandon 1:03:41
it's so dumb.
Collin 1:03:47
Okay, yeah, no wonder. I like that's that's such you do like you know. They were like, my goodness, we are going to have a franchise now. We got this because we got all these books and this other material that we can pull from. It's going to be great. Just know that.
Brandon 1:04:10
Yeah, I don't. I don't know. It's yeah. There is no sequel from what I understand, right? Like I have no idea, but like. it's crazy. Like this movie is weird. I don't
Collin 1:04:27
understand.
Brandon 1:04:28
I don't either. Mostly, I mean, the movie is mostly weird because there's like no acting in it, which just line read
Collin 1:04:38
just just line reads. You know? Yeah, that's what
Brandon 1:04:40
they're just like reading and like walking over there, like the emotion is is not. And again, I don't blame I blame some of the actors, right? Like I blame Ben Kingsley a lot, but like I blame Harrison Ford, like the kids, you know. I mean, some of them have been in some other stuff before, but like they, they, they can only do what the director tells them, right? Most kid actors like have don't have enough experience to be like my character would do this. They're not
Collin 1:05:14
inhabiting the yeah yeah yeah character,
Brandon 1:05:17
and I do not fault them for that at all, right? Because they are kids, teenagers, children. They can't, you know. Like, I'm not mad at them. It's not their fault, you know. It's the director directing them.
Collin 1:05:34
Yeah, that has to get it out of it. That's the director's
Brandon 1:05:37
job. Yeah, is to get that out of the actor, right? Like this is what I know about. I don't know a lot about filmmaking. All right, just you know, I've watched good films and I've watched a lot of bad ones, right? And so it's the director that's got to do that stuff. And the actors, if they're good actors, like good experienced actors, they bring their own thing, and then they like work with the director, and you get cool stuff. That's what happens, right? A kid actor, I give. There's a lot of grace for me, right? But I will say, yo, why were you not directing these children? Yeah, because if you just like, all right, now you're gonna walk over there. They just they just gonna walk over there, nothing else. You get nothing. Nope. Just like bleh.
Collin 1:06:30
Oh my gosh. Well, there we go.
Brandon 1:06:35
I I would agree with the low ratings that this movie gets. It's quite bad. It's even the movie is way too long. They cut out a bunch of stuff, and you're still like, "Bro, this is so boring. I can't. You would think in the movie, then you're like, "Okay, now you can show me some of the battle stuff, like even like a big battle montage, right? Something in the big, like the room is really-it's like this enormous sphere, right? It's glass. You can see out into space, right? It's huge. It is weird, right? There's a bit of a weird thing, like when you see it in action. It kind of doesn't make sense that like there's a door, and then on this side of the door there's gravity, and on this side of the door there's no gravity. Like that's odd. Like that doesn't really make any sense. Like you open the door. I know that's not how gravity works, right? But like, there's gravity here
Collin 1:07:36
without like an airlock kind of thing. Yeah, there's no airlock. There's
Brandon 1:07:39
nothing. And then, like six inches over here, there's no gravity. That's that's odd. Like seeing it makes you be like, that is not right. Like there is something strange here. Like in the book, you can kind of hand wave. You're like whatever. Like when you look at it like this. You're like, that's odd,
Collin 1:08:04
right?
Brandon 1:08:07
But like, I don't even really get a lot of that. You get a little bit of training, you get like a battle or two, and then it's over. Where like the movie, you could like do like you like the big room. There's like this huge thing. It's crazy. Whatever. Movie's not good. Movie's not
Collin 1:08:21
understood. No stars. Yeah. No stars for you. Maybe like
Brandon 1:08:24
one. I'm not gonna give zero. I've definitely seen worse movies, but this is not great. So, Collin, I have a question for you.
Collin 1:08:32
Okay.
Brandon 1:08:34
How about next week' top five best
Collin 1:08:40
yes
Brandon 1:08:41
sci-fi movies? This
Collin 1:08:42
is what we need to do. Top, yes. I'm writing it down so I don't forget people. Yeah, it's coming.
Brandon 1:08:48
I figured we we did this. We read the book. I watched this thing. Spoilers. This is not going on my list.
Collin 1:08:56
Let's look for it. Let's look for it, people. Okay. Yes, I will. I thought maybe
Brandon 1:09:03
next week we could do top five best.
Collin 1:09:05
Best, I agree. Yes, that is. I
Brandon 1:09:07
have a feeling my list is going to be slightly controversial, but that's okay. We'll talk about that next week.
Collin 1:09:11
It's you. What? What you just picked? Tron, the X Tron, and the other Tron. Is that what you're doing?
Brandon 1:09:16
No, it's going to be that movies like Tron aren't going to be anywhere near my list.
Collin 1:09:21
Okay, okay. So Collin's gonna pick Ultron. That's what I'm saying.
Brandon 1:09:26
Legacy, the other one, the ride.
Collin 1:09:30
I don't know the 3D experience. So I think next week
Brandon 1:09:38
we should talk about sci-fi movie experiences, and then like we could do top five best sci-fi movies, and then we can do we can have some runner-ups because I I have a feeling I may not be I won't be able to get all my movies on the list, so like because again this is a genre that I definitely experience a lot through movie
Collin 1:09:55
movie
Brandon 1:09:56
and not book,
Collin 1:09:57
yes,
Brandon 1:09:58
right. So like I've seen a lot more sci. I have a lot more experience with this part, right? So I think next week, top five sci-fi.
Collin 1:10:09
Okay, I like it. All
Brandon 1:10:11
right, look a plan. That'll be enough. Look at us
Collin 1:10:13
planning, doing the stuff. Doing the stuff with things. Love it. Well, I can. Is it my turn? Yes, I think so. Yes, I think I wrote one last time, right? Yes, yeah, I wrote one. This
Brandon 1:10:28
afternoon, I was feverishly looking through the list, being like looking at the notes, being like, "What was last week? Okay, that one was mine. Okay, like
Collin 1:10:35
frantic panic just now. Like I did. Wait, I just I do that often.
Brandon 1:10:39
Like I flick back and go, "Who's making this? I did have
Collin 1:10:42
one, but then I was like, "Well, I don't. It's Brandon. Anyway, no, I have one. I can round us out here. All right, let's go. Okay, learning CPR. The stuffed dog survived again. Gold stars for the class. Let's go. Yes, we kept the dog alive. Beautiful, that is the
Brandon 1:11:05
goal after all. So, like five stars there for sure.
Collin 1:11:10
I don't. We have. I only have one stuffed dog, and so I have to have different segments where we talk about dogs and cats. And so I've just been doing this thing where during my transition, I hold up my dog and I say "poof" a cat, and I just kind of shake it. I talk. I talk about like I get people to talk about the differences between dogs and cats, and then I hold it up very seriously, and I go, I shake it, and I go, "Poof, a cat. Yes. So I need behold a cat and and cata. Yes, I
Brandon 1:11:41
approve this message very much. I like it.
Collin 1:11:43
Oh man, this is
Brandon 1:11:46
perfect. Well,
Collin 1:11:47
I am looking forward to putting together my list for next week.
Brandon 1:11:52
All right,
Collin 1:11:53
and we will see what happens between now and
Brandon 1:11:57
then. All right, let's go.
Collin 1:11:58
Perfect. Okay, love you. Love
Brandon 1:12:00
you. Bye. Bye.