head of steam
In which Collin saw a train. Brandon saw a movie. And we…build a list!
Collin watched baseball
Baseball should be like soccer
Head of Steam
Go see a train
Brandon watched the Odyssey (2026)
Just Tom Holland’s costume
Brandon
5) Galaxy Quest (1999)
4) Pitch Black (2000)
3) Jurassic Park (1993)
2) Back to the Future (1985)
1) Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977)
Collin
5) Muppets From Space (1999)
4) 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954)
3) Back to the Future (1985)
2) Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (1984)
1) Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977)
Brandon’s Haiku:
Desolate coast line
Memories strewn along the sand
Becoming toward home
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A VERY ROUGH TRANSCRIPT OF THE EPISODE
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Collin 0:05
Welcome to Oh Brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out with your hosts Brandon and Collin on this week's show. Head of Steam. Ahoy! Ahoy!
Brandon 0:19
What's going on? Not a lot. How are you?
Collin 0:22
I'm doing well. We are getting some rain. Oh,
Brandon 0:26
lucky!
Collin 0:28
We just have the humidity. Ah, see, soon we will get the humidity, and the the it just gets really hot like tomorrow. So
Brandon 0:40
yeah, next week is gonna be a week to not leave your house. It's gonna be terrible. Yeah, not
Collin 0:45
not real excited by this.
Brandon 0:48
No,
Collin 0:49
but no, we're getting this like weirdly weird light light drizzle like all morning. It was 65 when we woke up. A lot of doors open, but it's it's it's it's been good. It's been good so far. Lame.
Brandon 1:03
87 degrees here right now.
Collin 1:08
No, thank you.
Brandon 1:11
So rude.
Collin 1:12
I'd rather price. Oh wow. Yeah.
Brandon 1:18
So what have you been up to this week, other than baseball gaming,
Collin 1:22
baseball gaming, yes. Anytime, glad
Brandon 1:24
some more people came. The first shot you sent from the stadium, it was like you and one old lady. It's like when
Collin 1:33
we may have arrived like right as the doors opened. So, it that does change a wee bit. See
Brandon 1:43
some warm up practice a little bit. Yeah, got to
Collin 1:45
see practice. Got to listen to some music as they're playing. Another thing, these small stadiums try and act like they're major league, and so it's like constant music stuff all of the time. Oh, and I realize, like, I don't like that. I'd rather just have some peace and quiet. It's okay if there's some quiet.
Brandon 2:13
I mean, it can be very like overstimulating, right? Like, I don't, I don't know. Like earlier today, like an hour ago, when I was eating, we were over eating lunch with Susan's mom and whatever. And like, there the thing was happening again, where like I like there were so many different conversations happening at the same time. Because like one of them was on the phone, and then like the other two were talking to each other, and then something else happening? Sometimes the TV is even on while that's going on. Like I just cannot. Like yeah. Like my brain is like breaking because there's like so many different things happening at the same time. I'm like yeah. So so it can't be like I think like I mean the other thing about like ballpark music and stuff like that is like, I get the background noise, but because it's outside, right? Like, there's not like a low level of background music. Like, it has to be loud.
Collin 3:14
There is no other way. Yes, it has to be full volume or nothing.
Brandon 3:20
Otherwise, you won't hear anything, right? And so, like, either, like, there is no like, oh, like a low background vibe. Nah, it's like,
Collin 3:34
yes. And this is the issue, for sure. Are you waiting in line for your
Brandon 3:40
hot dogs and your, you
Collin 3:42
can't carry on a conversation, and then what happens is everyone around you is yelling, which just makes the problem worse because now we're all yelling over each other, and the loud music, which just it kind of ruins it. So no, we we went, we watched, we stayed until the bottom of the fifth inning, and then I was like, "I need to go. So we left, not before getting a snow cone because we caught. I mean, returned returned a stray ball. Oh, let's go! This is a great.
Brandon 4:15
This is a great move by them. I feel like this is an excellent plan.
Collin 4:20
Yes, you know I'm. I was like, I'm really happy. Like it's it's one of those just fun little things that like only a small ballpark can do, and makes it a little bit more engaging and fun. And they also
Brandon 4:34
need that ball back. They do. We don't have. We
Collin 4:37
don't have infinite money here, people. We don't have unlimited budget for baseballs, so like right, we need we need these back. So it's fun, and every all the kids enjoy it a lot, which it's good. So we did that. Watched some baseball in the evening, and it was like the perfect night for baseball. That
Brandon 4:59
is true. It was a pretty nice night. It
Collin 5:01
was cool, and they've got these gigantic fans that are installed in this place now. And they, I mean, they're the kind like those big industrial fans that you see that have the like the wingtips, you know, up on the edges of them. If you see those like in the top of like massive like warehouses and whatever, they are made to move air. Well, I don't. I
Brandon 5:23
just remember like the ones from the hallway from like school. You remember? Do you remember these big fans they used to have at school for like airing out stuff? They were like four and a half feet tall fans.
Speaker 1 5:35
Oh, like
Brandon 5:36
big round circle things.
Collin 5:37
Yes. Okay. Yeah. These are probably like nine feet across in the ceiling, and they're they're these really they've got lots of really long blades, and the blade ends, and then it comes up at a 90 degree angle, like the tip of an airplane.
Brandon 5:54
That's very interesting. Yeah, yeah,
Collin 5:57
and it was actually cold, like because they were blowing so much, and there was a northern wind from the storms that were kind of coming through, but it was a beautiful night to go watch some baseball. And I realized, I realized, I learned, I guess, this is a college professional, like it's a professional level collegiate league. I mean,
Brandon 6:21
really, all college sports are professional now. Yes. So,
Collin 6:26
but this is like, yeah, this is like, I guess, one step into like the minor leagues. Like, this is the the pre minor league place where people go. I guess is what I I learned.
Speaker 1 6:39
Interesting.
Collin 6:39
Yes, very interesting for sure, but so they're all college students, and they come from across the the area, the region, I guess. Yeah, and they are assigned to different teams. So those and they live locally during the summer, so they have to have like host families and stuff. That's cool. Yeah, so it's it's neat. It's a it's a very interesting program, but obviously these are like very serious college athletes. If they're like, you know what? I know I played all season during school, and now what if we played more? I did more. Yes,
Speaker 1 7:14
that's true.
Collin 7:15
Yeah, so it's fun. It's you know not there's not a lot going on, but I enjoy that. I do
Brandon 7:23
feel like in the U.S. like if you want to be an athlete that like makes money playing a sport, you should play baseball because there's so many different like leagues and double agent. Now I don't know about like lots of money, but like you can like for like football and stuff. There's not like a there's like the NFL and that's it. Yeah, right. That's only it. Right. But like baseball, there's like 50 bazillion bits, like local smaller things and like feeder teams and blah blah blah blah blah blah. Like so that like it is possible to actually make money playing that sport. Again, I don't know about like much money, but
Collin 8:08
right. There's a lot of opportunities. I think. Yeah,
Brandon 8:13
I think there's a lot more opportunity than with any other sports team.
Collin 8:19
Yes,
Brandon 8:19
like any other sport, right? Like the the opportunity to be on a baseball team,
Collin 8:26
there everything is much
Brandon 8:27
higher. Yeah,
Collin 8:28
yeah. There's so many different leagues and clubs, and like there's just at all at all levels of experience and like you're right. You can kind of spit and you find a new baseball team. That's true.
Brandon 8:46
I also think this is my new hot take about baseball. Right. I think you know. Okay. So you know how like international soccer leagues have the relegation mechanic, where you like, if you finish in the bottom of the league, you go down to the next league below. But if you're in that league and you get, you can get promoted to the next. I think baseball should do that because there is like so many billion different kinds of like stuff. Like I think baseball should do that. I think they should. They should drop the like feeder team situation, right? You know where they have like this, like the St. Louis Cardinals has like a double A team that they get all their players from and stuff, whatever. Yeah. Like I think maybe you could you could like drop that, uh, and like make all those teams into like their different league, and then if they get, you know, if they win their league, then they get a chance for the next year to be in the Major League Baseball.
Collin 9:50
This would be good.
Brandon 9:51
Yeah, I think it'd be dope. This is this in like the because it's the only sport in the U.S. that like you can do that with because. We just said there's like so many different clubs and stuff. There are like locally teams and like smaller divisions, whatever. Like I think baseball should be restructured to have relegation.
Collin 10:11
Okay, I will write the letter to the. Do they have a commissioner? What I don't probably, probably right.
Brandon 10:18
I I don't know. Yeah, dear baseball,
Collin 10:22
dear baseball. I yes, I think this is exactly we're making. We got it, nailed it. I like this idea. Well, it's just because it would, it would really, if it really is skill based, it would add a lot of, I think, very interesting games. It could make it really exciting, you know. If the Cardinals are having like a really really bad year, you know, man, they could be showing up playing. Well, I mean, yeah, right. Like this is this is the
Brandon 10:52
problem, right? Like when when there's a team like that, right? Where like in in a in a sport like baseball, right? We play like 90 games a year or something. Actually, it's it's a it's so many games I can't even remember, right? If you're already having a losing season, right? Like halfway through, like they just don't. It doesn't matter anymore, you know. And they kind of just like whatever. Like attendance is real bad, and it's bad for like the overall ball club in general. Like if they're not playing for anything and like nobody's coming out to support them, like they're not making any money, like fans don't care, right? But if there's relegation on the line, right? Even if you're not having a winning season, right? You still gotta like really go for it because you you could get dropped, you know what I mean? Yeah, it adds more drama. It adds drama to the bottom of the chart as well as the top. Yes,
Collin 11:51
right. Everybody's trying their best all the time instead of just letting it slide and going. Well, we'll we'll pick it up next season.
Brandon 11:59
Yeah, we'll we'll do the like. Well, we'll just we'll throw some games, get some draft picks or whatever they do, right? Like, get free up the money to get all this, like all that nonsense. Like, you gotta do that too. But like, also, you don't
Speaker 1 12:12
want to be last. Nope.
Brandon 12:13
You know, the last couple spots, you gotta. I can't remember. It's like two or three. The bottom like two or three teams, right? Like, you don't want to be in those those final final slots there, so I think this could really help amp up baseball a little bit, make it a little bit more exciting.
Collin 12:30
I like this, and if we implement our previously suggested recommendation for providing landmines in the outfield, I don't know that, but I would equally make it as exciting. I'm pretty sure that this is a conversation. Yeah, let me. I'll. I'll do some Google. I just feel like
Brandon 12:52
we need to. I mean, my big baseball. We got to make the hot dogs cheaper, right? That's really the most important thing here.
Collin 12:59
You know, you could you could campaign on that. That's for gotta make
Brandon 13:03
ballpark hot dogs more affordable, right? We gotta we gotta get that going because like if people are coming to the baseball game, they got they need snacks, and you gotta have affordable snacks, man. This is important.
Collin 13:15
Well, when we weren't watching baseball, was watching a 1.2 million pound, 133 foot long steam engine come roaring through my town,
Brandon 13:33
coming down the track, as I say, coming down DOS
Collin 13:38
track. Big boy made its trip through our little area here and drew quite the crowd. Like it was, it was a there's a lot of people there. I was very surprised, but I I don't know. It's good. It's it's fun to see. Got to see Ed the conduct engineer. Oh, the conducted engineer. Gotta love that guy. I think technically his full title is like head of like steam restoration. Head of Steam. Some head of steam. I think that's like this Union Pacific head of steam. I think I'm pretty sure you just got to quote me on that. So he he's driving this thing across country, and mr. mr.
Brandon 14:34
Boyle's law himself, head of spoils.
Collin 14:37
I learned that going from cold start, going from like like in storage to moving down the track, it takes it takes days. As we say, yeah,
Brandon 14:52
that takes forever
Collin 14:54
just to start heating it up, heating it up. They just. That's all it takes, because it's so big, and they can't just like throw. If they throw it in too hot, you break stuff. It's if it's too cold and it heats too quickly, it breaks stuff. They actually have found a way to preheat the water that goes into the boiler to help speed this process. Tea kettles. Yeah, you have lots of little tea kettles to throw in the. It's done. Little mini steam trains on your stove top. And anyway, it was it was fantastic seeing this thing. I love this so much. It makes me happy to see Big Boy coming down the track, and I learned I learned a couple things. First one, how did it get its name, Big Boy?
Brandon 15:51
Did some dude look at it and be like, "That's a big old boy right there.
Collin 15:55
Pretty close. During manufacture of Big Boy in 1941. They were they they were manufacturing at where wherever it was. They obviously were not just manufacturing this one train. So they had multiple train parts, and on the front of the boiler, so that it didn't get mixed up, the guy in chalk wrote Big Boy because they were building a Big Boy train, and so there was their like internal code, not code name, but like reference, like the project
Brandon 16:30
name, the project, right? You know how like all these like construction things have like project names, or like design things have like a code name, like oh this is project you know alfalfa or whatever, like
Collin 16:41
Exactly. Yes, and so there it was. Also, it was designed to carry 3600 tons over the mountains in Utah, and on a test run, they were able to successfully haul four 600 tons. Yeah, that.
Brandon 17:00
Yeah. Wow. Holy smoly!
Speaker 1 17:02
They were like,
Brandon 17:04
yeah, that that nailed it, right? Got
Collin 17:07
it, got it, and literally one. Oh, I guess. But the whole the whole point was they were so tired of. This was back in the 19. It was built in 1940s. Originally designed in the 1930s to solve the problem of when we go over the Rocky Mountains through this pass, we have to dedicate two train engines to it, which decreases our fleet, increases our costs, and makes it super complex. Gosh, golly, wouldn't it be great if we just had like a single train and they were like one
Brandon 17:36
ginormous? Yes, what if we
Collin 17:38
did that? So they did, and it's effectively it's effectively two trains in one. It's so long that it has to be articulated in two different points for it to go around corners. Oh wow! Okay, yes, yeah, and they quickly realized that they like most most the largest Stevengens at the time had like two or maybe three drive wheels, and they're like, "That's that's not enough. So they have four. So they have four, four in the front, four in the back. 4884 is the wheel arrangement because I know you look curious. Yeah, 4884, and in between there is where it articulates so long is it's crazy what they did with this. So seeing it come through and blow its blow its old steam whistle there on its was was really cool. And we actually got to see it twice in one day because we drove 4045 minutes out one way to watch where it was had a scheduled stop. We watched it, and then we drove back to our town, which it was going to be coming through, and it did not have a scheduled stop. But
Brandon 18:47
you can see go by. Well,
Collin 18:49
they had a minor miss thing, and had to make an unscheduled maintenance stop. Surprise stop! Surprise stop. for that, and ended up giving us a little bit more time to view to view the train. So we watched it watched it twice, and it was fun. And I recommend going and seeing a big train. If you can go, hey, here's what you go go watch the world's largest steam locomotive. That's what you need to do this week. I
Brandon 19:25
mean, good advice, right? There you go.
Collin 19:27
Yes, event
Brandon 19:29
planning, right?
Collin 19:30
Yeah, just you know, when you when you're up in Cheyenne, where this thing is based out of, you can just you know hang out.
Brandon 19:38
Yeah, because you know everyone's just up in Cheyenne. Obviously, that's just what you do.
Collin 19:43
Pretty sure that's how that.
Brandon 19:54
Well, Collin, I have also seen something massive this week.
Collin 19:57
This
Brandon 19:58
is right.
Collin 19:58
What?
Brandon 19:59
Right. I watched the Odyssey.
Collin 20:02
Oh, okay, yes. This a movie of many, many opinions.
Brandon 20:11
Yeah, it is interesting how all of a sudden every single person on the internet is an ancient Greek historian who's definitely read the Odyssey?
Collin 20:23
First and foremost, obviously, everyone has read the Odyssey.
Brandon 20:28
Obviously, all of these people on the internet have definitely read it. Wait, okay, yeah, so yeah, I
Collin 20:37
had ChatGPT summarize this for
Brandon 20:39
me. Yeah, I think it is pretty good. Like I, it's definitely not the best Christopher Nolan movie, right? Like I don't, I'm not a person that watches like every movie that a director has made because I can't be bothered to do that, right? Sure. Like even out of the Christopher Nolan movies that I've seen, right, like Memento is clearly my favorite Chris Fernola movie, like of all time, obviously, but it's good, right? Like I think a lot of the criticisms like miss a certain point where like the majority of like what you're seeing is Odysseus remembering what happened, right?
Collin 21:26
Yeah,
Brandon 21:26
and so like a lot of the design choices are like they're his memory, right? And he's not proud of the things that he has done, Right, like he like this. the The Nolan version is a story about like post traumatic stress and like the futility of war. Right, that's what his message is. That's one of his messages in the movie. So like when you're seeing some of these things on the screen, like it's how his mind is remembering them. So, like when you see like Agamemnon's like crazy armor, like it's not necessarily this is what Agamemnon looked like. Like it's representing the power and the leadership role of Agamemnon, Right, so like, it's fine. Like, whatever. Like, I do think, like, one, this is just a me problem only. Like, the beginning is a little bit slow. Whatever. The other me problem is there's too many famous people in this movie, and so like every once in a while, you're just like, it's just Matt Damon, right? Yeah, like there, like a lot of the stuff that he's doing. Like some of the certain scenes, like that he's performing, are like incredible, right? But other times it does just kind of seem like it's just Matt Damon, just like walking about. You know what I mean?
Collin 22:58
Hey, there's old Matt.
Brandon 23:00
Yeah, yeah, but like, so there. When you have like a cast, it's like this full of people. Like, it is a bit distracting. Where you're like, oh, that's that's you're not like, oh, that's not Penelope. Like, oh, it's in Hathaway, right? Like, yeah, whatever. But
Brandon 23:14
also, this means that there has to be a weak a weakness, right? Right. There's there's there's gonna be somebody that's not kind of up to the level like their performance is just kind of like not where everyone else is right that person is Tom Holland oh really
Speaker 2 23:35
yeah
Speaker 1 23:36
oh no yeah
Brandon 23:37
I just don't really I was not really. I didn't really care about Tom Holland that much, right? Like every time he was on screen, I was like, "Eh, whatever. It's fine
Collin 23:49
when he doesn't have his webs to shoot out, you know. I
Brandon 23:51
mean, yeah, it is also a problem when you're like strongly associated with Spider-Man. Not that I've actually seen the Spider-Man movies, because I can't be bothered to do that either. Like, I just feel like if you have on screen, right, like Anne Hathaway and Matt Damon, and then Tom Holland is also there,
Speaker 1 24:09
yeah,
Brandon 24:09
right, like sure,
Collin 24:11
that's fair.
Brandon 24:13
And I don't like, and I like I I said earlier, I don't have a problem with a lot of the costuming, right? But there's a couple scenes like what Tom Holland is wearing in this movie is like ridiculous. Specifically, I have I am annoyed by this scene that I'm just going to send you. I don't know if you've seen pictures of this, like this, this outfit.
Collin 24:36
Oh no,
Brandon 24:37
bothers me.
Collin 24:38
We are here. We are on the Low Brother.
Brandon 24:44
yeah.
Collin 24:44
Why is he so? This is him and and
Brandon 24:47
Menelaus like hanging out talking. Right, he's gone to King Menelaus to to get see if anybody have any news of Odysseus. Right, and so like like I said earlier, when the majority of the movie is like flashback. And you're like, oh man, like so. Those costume choices like make sense to me, right? Of it's not reality, right? It's a it's a representation. There's things to read into that of like how Odysseus feels about the situation, right? And like all this stuff, right? And it's it's very like you can tell he kind of he feels guilty about this because, like, he's he's used trickery to win, right? And so he's kind of like upset about that. Like, even so much like the Trojans' armor is like all like white and stuff, and like his armor is all like dark and like black and brown, right? So, like, it's not. It's like a a representation of how he feels about the situation. There is no excuse for this Tom Holland outfit. Like, what is that? Like, what is this?
Collin 25:50
It's not. It's not good. It's not.
Brandon 25:51
You know, it's not good. That's there, right? Like, I don't know what this. I don't even even know what Punisher Menelaus guy is wearing either. Like, what is this? Like, it's just not good, right? And so, like, whatever you like, I don't care about like the like. I'm not like, oh my gosh, it's not historically accurate. Like, it just it looks bad, right? Again, if you take think about think about Boromir. Now look at that. Yeah. Ouch. Dang. Like what?
Collin 26:25
It looks like you could go like I could like that's like a t-shirt you could get from Kohl's, and this is a cool maroon hoodie that I could grab. It's not the most. Yeah.
Brandon 26:40
I think it's weirdly, it is just Tom Holland's costumes that I have a problem with. Like a lot of the other characters, like in the present day, like what they're wearing, like it's fine. Yeah, like it's whatever. Like all of his stuff. Maybe, maybe this is Nolan telling us that you know he's like he's you know, he's still kind of a kid. He's like not ready. It looks like none of his clothes fit him.
Collin 27:05
You know, that's actually a really good,
Brandon 27:07
you know what I mean? I think
Collin 27:08
perspective of of what because if if we're going to say that Agamemnon's armor is significant of something, then obviously in the throughout the storytelling and how we're and if this is a memory of, or how things were related back to him. Like, what is this telling about Tom Holland's character? Like, I love that of going. Okay, no, it's just he's remembered boyish, or he's remembered he was all so young throughout this entire time.
Brandon 27:34
I think that might be what you're they're trying to tell me, but like, also it's just kind of distracting, especially because like all the other characters look like fine, right? And sometimes, like what he's wearing, it's just like ah, what is that, right? Even when he's with like, you know, he's in the hallway with like all the suitors and stuff, and they're all there, like all their clothes look fine, and his is just like man. I don't know. I don't know what's going on there, but I just feel like he is kind of the weaker link. Again, that doesn't mean that he's bad. It just means that like there are so many like really good performances, and the surprise performance in this movie is the oh crap! I can't remember his name. the The blind swineherd character, right, is John Leguizamo. Just like surprise, John Leguizamo, and it's he's so good, right? Like even like he's like carrying hard. Wow, it feels like it to me, anyway. This is my opinion. I just was not like Tom Holland. I was like, eh, eh, whatever, eh, it's fine, me. But like, other than that, it was really good. The sound is insane. Also, it's exceptionally loud, maybe. But like, even in a normal theater, because I couldn't be bothered to also drive like an hour and a half to find an IMAX theater.
Collin 29:02
No thanks. Right. True experience. Yeah,
Brandon 29:05
but I also don't care because I went on Discount Tuesday and it was my movie ticket was $6. So, I mean, I mean, like. Also, there was a just there was a surprising number of people in a movie theater at 1230 on a Tuesday to see this movie, and also surprisingly, maybe unsurprisingly, because it was 1230 on Tuesday, a ton of them were like 60 plus years old. Like I was, it was very weird.
Collin 29:37
Unsurprising. Let's be very real. I mean,
Brandon 29:40
maybe I don't know, but like
Collin 29:44
I have that feeling too, where I don't know, where I'm like driving out on a what I presume to be a very obscure time of day, and I'm always like, man, what are all these people doing out here? And it's like, but I, but I am also, what am I doing? Yeah, what am I
Speaker 3 29:59
doing here? What the heck? Wait a minute! What the heck? Minutes
Collin 30:01
on part of the problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, well, I'm glad it had a good turnout. It sounds like, and that you so you give it double double thumbs up plus good. It sounds like yeah,
Brandon 30:15
it's good. It's good. Like it is long, and you do. I have to like, it's for me. It's also it is definitely. I again, I haven't seen all of Christopher Nolan's movie. This is the most arty movie I've seen in a very long time. Oh,
Collin 30:31
interesting, right? It
Brandon 30:32
was like very long, like establishing shots, and like you know, like the cameras doing all kinds of crazy. Probably again because it's supposed to be IMAX, right? Like, there it's a very arty movie, right? And like the soundtrack is like all weird because the guy used like reimaginings of like actual ancient Greek instruments to do like all kinds of like insane things, right? So like sometimes it's like it's just the kind of it's kind of weird. The movie has like a vibe, right? And like I had to watch movie and like sit with it for a while to be like, did I like this?
Collin 31:06
Interesting. I don't
Brandon 31:08
know, right? Like you kind of have to like put it together a little bit, right? And then again, once you realize it's kind of like a lot of flashbacky stuff and like dealing with these things, like the the morals of the movie, like what when you get to the end and realize like kind of what the message is supposed to be, a lot more stuff earlier makes a lot more sense, right? Like, da da da, and so you kind of just sit with it for a minute to kind of like figure out what's going on?
Speaker 1 31:41
Yeah, you know.
Collin 31:42
Well, especially that that framing of these are these are impart memories and recollections and a lot of feelings imbued into like what is going on in the film that makes that that makes the and here is where some criticism gets thrown about is there are movies and there are movies that can try and be too smart for the viewers about certain things. Yeah. However, in this case, it's well. There's meaning behind this, but I think so many people are used to like whatever's on the screen is on the screen, and that's just what it is. And you can look back at a slew of all of the superhero movies that we've had recently. I was just gonna
Brandon 32:31
say the same thing. Yeah, there's
Collin 32:32
no subtext to any of this. There's no meaning to certain to anything. It's just they're out there smashing things, and we're done. And so when people go from viewing those kind of things to what is a a true adventure like like OG here, and they go right oh that's weird that doesn't make sense this wouldn't be like that's like well no but that's not literally what his armor was like like this is a recollection of the aura and the weight and the the the power of this person, yeah, like that's a very different kind of way to watch a movie, and I'm not saying like one is better than the other, like because then it goes down to like oh you just watch movies and you're snob and can't you just enjoy the movie like yeah I think you can. His armor looks really cool, like we can just say that, but it also surprise has meaning and that's okay too.
Brandon 33:22
Yeah, and I think the other important thing here is like the the part about like historical accuracy, right? Like, um, it's a myth. Oh, right, right. So like, yeah, you know,
Collin 33:38
what history stuff even
Brandon 33:40
happened anyway? So like.
Collin 33:42
it's a fantasy novel. Okay, I mean, yeah,
Brandon 33:45
it really
Speaker 1 33:47
is. Yes, like
Brandon 33:48
people like, oh, that's not historically accurate. Like Mycenaean armor, like I get that because like historical accurate Mycenian armor is kind of cool looking, right? Like Bortus helmet is kind of rad, but like also the timelessness of the story is such that like you know when whenever this we don't even know when the story was written really, but like it wasn't written contemporaneously when it was supposed to happen. Sure, it was written like way after. It's like the Greeks writing about like a thing that happened a long time ago, right? As a myth, you know, it's about like there's all kinds of messages and subtext in there that like we probably don't even have, you know, because like they knew a lot of stuff about it like already, you know.
Collin 34:32
Different world,
Brandon 34:33
yeah, different world, right? And so like whenever you're like, oh my gosh, like this didn't happen, you're like, bro, the whole thing did. Do you think there like a man found a giant cyclops in a cave. Like, what are you talking about? Please,
Collin 34:47
please tell me. Please show me the email you sent to the Tolkien family disagreeing with their choice in body armor for the elves. Please go ahead. Show me where you got that.
Brandon 34:59
Like at some. Like it kind of does. It doesn't matter. Like and it matches like the whole vibe of the story, right? It's like very like austere and like Odessa is like racked with like guilt and like regret. That's kind of you know that's the other kind of theme here. Like that comes up in a lot of different things. Like everybody has carrying this thing, so it's like the fact that it is like not bright and shiny is good because it like matches the vibe. You know what I mean? Like if everything was like bright and shiny and like bronze and like all like colorful, like it would be weird, right? Because it wouldn't match the tone of the rest of the movie, right? And like, so there you go. I mean, it's where also the end, like the end part where he comes back. You know, spoilers for the Odyssey. You know, 3000 year old story. Like the end part where he comes back. Like, and that part is dope. Like, it's so intense. It's like really good. So like, it definitely builds up towards a climax like very well, but like, but yeah, I I think I think uh, that's my message to all the people on the internet. Right, stop, stop, stop it, ridiculous, right? My my favorite take I heard was like people were like, you know, people are like very upset that Helen O'Troy is a black lady, right? And somebody was like, "Bro, she's actually supposed to be half swan. So
Collin 36:26
take that.
Brandon 36:26
Where's the swan in this movie? Where's that at? Like, write your
Collin 36:31
letters. Write your letters.
Brandon 36:33
Yeah, boom, got them.
Collin 36:36
Did the Actors Guild? They didn't. They didn't. What did? What were they doing for the Swan contingent? Nothing.
Brandon 36:40
Under underrepresented swans, right? I don't know, but like, yeah. So like, whatever. They get one
Collin 36:47
movie over the past 20 years, and wasn't even. It was. It was also a weird movie, but that's true. That's true.
Brandon 36:54
Ballet, yeah. Ballet. Yeah, I don't know. Well, I'm glad. I'm
Collin 36:58
glad you. That sounds good. I have not had a chance to go out and see it. Yeah, I definitely think
Brandon 37:03
that some people like the movie. I don't know. They like it way more than I did. But I think a lot of the hate is like definitely not warranted. Like you guys are crazy. Calm down. Like it's a good movie. It just does. It does take. It is long, right? The beginning feels long, and then it picks up for me. For me, in my opinion, right? I saw somebody talking about the middle was dragging, and I was like, "What middle were you watching, bro? Like, whoa,
Collin 37:28
right? What you
Brandon 37:29
mean?
Collin 37:31
That's
Brandon 37:32
so it's all right, but yeah, it was pretty good, right? There you go, boom.
Collin 37:36
I love that.
Speaker 4 37:39
Oh,
Collin 37:40
Well, you know what else? Yeah, what else we love? Some sci-fi movies.
Brandon 37:53
That's right. I just accidentally watched this movie. I was not planning on on having this actually all tie in together nicely like this. Look at this. This is some continuity. This
Collin 38:00
is on accident, not professional. that you can come to expect. I I I gotta say right out of the gate here, Brandon. It turns out I like a lot of sci-fi movies. Yeah,
Brandon 38:14
this was harder than I thought, right? Like because there are when I was doing this and thinking about this and thinking about like movies that I liked and that could fit in this category. There is a lot of them.
Collin 38:27
Yes, there are so many.
Brandon 38:30
There's a lot that did not make my list. So we may have to have like a very big like wrap up at the end, like a big honorable mention, like of ones that we don't talk about because I went a certain direction with my movies, right? Okay, it's good. Okay, this this my list may be slightly controversial because I do leave off quite a bit of stuff. Okay, like there's some names that are not on the list, and like I don't know. Again, my criteria for a list like this is usually like how badly do I want to watch this movie? Like right now, like if someone's like, "Hey, do you want to watch a movie? I might pick a movie from this list.
Collin 39:10
Okay, right? Yeah, agreed. Like
Brandon 39:12
there are other movies that are like really good, but like sci-fi movies. But like I may not just like you don't want to watch them like a bunch of times, right? I'm not gonna watch like certain ones like over and over and over again. Where these movies I have watched over and over and over again.
Collin 39:25
Yeah. Okay. I understand.
Brandon 39:28
So like that's kind of where my brain was at. So like these are my favorite ones right now. That like if if there was and again the other metric because I'm old like if it was just like on TV would I stop and watch it.
Collin 39:40
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Right. Like
Brandon 39:43
absolutely.
Collin 39:44
No, I sat with. I wrote down my list, and then I started scrolling through other lists, and that was yeah. That was the mistake. I did that too. That was the big mistake because then all of a sudden I was like, oh, oh, and that one, and oh, and that, oh, and I forgot about. Yeah, that's all I did as I scroll. Even on the list that were like 150 of the top, I'm like, oh
Speaker 1 40:08
yeah,
Collin 40:08
so yeah, I too, and I just this is kind of a stab at like bring joy when watching, and and are on the list for, I don't know if it's because okay, it's not because these are like the quintessential sci-fi films, and I think that's kind of the way that you went with this as well, because the deck definitely has a certain kind of list. These are more of the, this is a movie that I really enjoy and like, I think impact or has impacted me in some in some way, or it's just a fun movie. So, yeah,
Brandon 40:46
that's kind of what I thought too. Like these are movies that I like and that I enjoy watching, right? And there are other movies on this that are out there that we'll talk about at the end, probably. But like, like they're fine, like they're good, but like I don't want to watch them like over and over and over again, you know. I've seen them a couple times. I'm like, yeah, it's good, and then I'm okay with it like being there, you know. So yeah.
Collin 41:09
Okay. Okay. Well, do you? This was your idea. This is your fault. Do you want to kick us off?
Brandon 41:17
Oh yeah, sure. So all right. So to give you an idea of the direction that my list is going, number five, I decided to put Galaxy Quest.
Collin 41:30
Yes, genuinely amazing film. I I love this movie so much. Oh wow, this is phenomenal. I
Brandon 41:48
do. I like this movie because it like it does like subvert. It's funny because it's like an homage to sci-fi movies, and like it is like a parody of like Star Trek, basically, right? Like and like it's just, it's so funny. And like, Alan Rickman playing this like whole thing like completely straight the whole time. He's the funniest.
Collin 42:09
Yes, that's all.
Collin 42:12
Alan Rickman is is to me what makes this movie phenomenal. Oh, and Sigourney
Brandon 42:18
Weaver is so funny too. Like the the sci-fi like women trope where she's like I don't know why my shirt keeps ring
Collin 42:24
yes like it's so especially because if you think we're like weren't you an alien like I think yes
Speaker 1 42:31
I know what's happening here yes oh
Brandon 42:34
my gosh it's yeah like also watching her play like the like radio operator damsel in distress is like really funny, like subverting, or like being the thing, being the playing the character that she famously subverts, like super hardcore. Alien is like very funny, like just the juxtaposition of all that. So it's like a very like self-referential movie,
Collin 42:57
uh huh,
Brandon 42:57
right? And it's just and it's really funny, right? There's so many like funny things in there. Do I sometimes like the other day I was thinking about this list and something happened and I looked at Susan? I told I was just like in conversation. I slipped the by Grabthars hammer thing and she looked at me like I was insane. So I still have to name Susan watch this movie because I think she would like it too. But like.
Collin 43:25
Oh, by the sons of Orvin, yes, yes. So
Brandon 43:29
I just, I just feel like that movie. That's just a fun time, right? The movie's hilarious. Like it's just goofy and silly and like,
Collin 43:38
yeah.
Brandon 43:38
It's really like I don't know. I just like how referential it is, and like how like interest. I don't know. It's just like putting a mirror up to a lot of the sci-fi tropes, and like just being a parody of old Star Trek, which is really funny. And like I don't. So I played Galaxy Quest as my number five, super unserious movie. I kind of tell you kind of where my list might be going here.
Collin 44:00
Okay. Okay. I, you know, this is an interesting thing because I am also going to be starting in the year 1999. Oh, let's go. A story about person trying to find their real family where they learn their true identity, captured by a secret government agent and rescued by a group of friends. Yes, Brandon, I'm talking about the 1999 release of Muppets from Space. Yes. See, this is
Brandon 44:31
why I was because I forgot about Muppets from Space, right? Like this.
Collin 44:35
Oh man. Yes. Yep. I I love this. I love Gonzo being the main character. I love how he's surprised that he's an alien. Yeah, I know. Love just like the whole thing and the tropes that it leans into. But and this one has
Brandon 44:55
Parliament Funkadelic in it too. Is George Clinton in this movie? I believe. Is that this one? Yes. Yes.
Collin 45:00
Yes. Yes. It does. It does. All right. Yes. It's fantastic. I don't know. I just this is putting you know familiar characters in unfamiliar places, but also it's hilarious, and I enjoy it very, very much. And it is one of those where, yeah, there are some tropes that it reuses or leans on, but it's just like it's just fun. It's just fun to watch, and I enjoy it very much. So anyway, Muppets from from space. Most people will remember this as Muppets in space. If you, this is a common misnomer. That's fair. It's Muppets from space, and yes, and what is the tagline of this movie? It's space. It's not as deep as you think.
Brandon 45:55
That tracks right like that, definitely.
Collin 45:57
Yes, indeed. I haven't seen
Brandon 46:01
that movie in forever. I recommend it. Holy cow!
Collin 46:05
Yes.
Brandon 46:07
All right, another movie. The next movie on my list, number four. All right. Also, distressingly, I realized this is the most recent movie on my list. I'm ready. From the year 2000. So ready.
Collin 46:22
Okay. This is also by spoiler alert. This is also commentary I had on this list of I didn't I yeah everything but after 2000 I was like yeah I don't think so yeah I
Brandon 46:35
feel like that yeah I didn't do that on purpose I just same same yeah I realized when I was like after I'd finalize it, I was like looking up to make sure I like just looking up some stuff. So I thought about it, and I was like, "Wait a minute, ah, dang it! Okay, hold on. All right, so this this movie is technically part of a trilogy, but like the other two movies are not good in my opinion, it's a it's a story of like the first one was like it's like a it's a relatively like low budget movie, right? And then it was very successful, and they got a bunch of money, and then they ruined it. That's kind of how I feel about this particular thing, right? This this is 2000s pitch black.
Speaker 1 47:26
Okay, some sci
Brandon 47:28
fi horror. Yes, kind of the opposite direction of Galaxy Quest. Galaxy
Collin 47:33
Quest. Yes,
Brandon 47:35
I think this movie is amazing.
Collin 47:38
This is phenomenal. I have watched this film. I want to say an unhealthy amount of times when same right same. It's good. It is a good movie. And I
Brandon 47:49
well, it was really funny because one of my friends, right, we're one of the people that I went to see the Odyssey with, right. He always asked me like, "So, what are you guys talking about? And I was like, "Well, we're trying to do like a sci-fi movie list, and he was like, "Yo, what? Yeah, and I said, "I think, I think on my top five, I'm gonna. I was like, "This might be, uh, you know, a controversial take, but I one of my favorite sci-fi movies ever is Pitch Black. And he goes, "Yo, me too. Like, it's so good. Like, the this movie is excellent, right? And it's weird. This is the I don't okay. This is gonna be weird, right? This is like Vin Diesel actually acting for like perhaps the only time in history, right? This is true, or maybe it's just the writing was written around it. I don't even know, but like, even his performance, this movie is good, right? Everybody's great, like it's classic, like Crash Land on the alien planet, and we gotta stay alive. But like, at nighttime, the monsters come out, and it's great. It's so. It's I don't know. I just like the whole movie is so good, right? Like I, I, I just really like this movie. I remember watching it for the first time with a bunch of my friends, right? I remember, like, really liking it, like being into it, right? I've watched movie like a ton of times since then.
Collin 49:10
Oh man! So
Brandon 49:12
yeah, I really. This is like a very, I don't know. I really like this. Like, I don't really like horror movies, like straight up horror movies, very much. But like this one is like really good, like sci-fi horror movies for me are like more interesting, right? Like, yeah, it's like a more interesting take on a lot of the genre stuff. So, like, I like Pitch Black, right? So that's my number 4/4, spot here. Well,
Collin 49:34
that one and it's got so many different elements to it. It is a survival thing. There's the monsters there's the like the the whole like eclipse sequence yeah like it just it it layers on all these elements so well there's
Brandon 49:50
kind of like the redemption arc thing where he's like a criminal but he's like doing the right thing to help the other people right he's like not he's like being less selfish and he's like doing stuff for. Others like all that stuff, like
Speaker 5 50:01
yeah,
Brandon 50:01
and like it's yeah, it's like it's very interesting. I really like it. There you go.
Collin 50:07
Yeah, no, I I like that a lot. It's a good one. Adding that to my other list. Huh. Okay. Oh, hold on. I need to. Hold on. dear,
Brandon 50:23
vamping time. Why Collin rearranges his list because he's not happy with it, kind of like me. I'm a final two, like I still not 100% sure that's how I want them. But you know what? We're just gonna go for it. We're gonna see.
Collin 50:35
It's fine. No, responding to some messages. So my second one is probably a bit more traditional. It's also, I think, the oldest one that I have on here from 1954. Oh, and I like this movie a lot. I like 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. I'm just gonna say it. Nah, it's okay. I know it's on a lot of lists, but it's also a movie I've watched this year. So hey, here we go. I have watched this movie, and you know, it's it's got like I don't know. Jason Mason is sorry. James Mason is fantastic. I will always like his rendition of Captain Nemo on this like borderline genius madness thing that he's on, and kind of how it's unsettling the entire time of like, what are we actually doing? Is this legitimately? Is this not? Like that's what I I really enjoy. That it adds that tension to this, while also you know, giant squid battle. Come on, who doesn't like this? And then everyone loves Esmeralda, a pet seal, because that's just I okay, fine. I put it on the list for Esmeralda, if we're being perfectly honest, yeah, that's allowed. That's allowed. No, again, it's one of those of like, yeah, it's really foundational. It's also an older movie, and everyone talks about it. But I still think it holds up. I still think it's a good movie to to be around, and it's nice. That's good. That's a
Brandon 52:17
curveball. I like it. Okay,
Brandon 52:19
very nice. Um, all right. Number three. Okay. So I I ventured away from space for the next one, right? Because because like you did, kind of for this one, right? Like a lot of sci-fi. We people think sci-fi. I think about like space spaceships, blah blah blah. The unnecessary, right? It just has to have science in it.
Speaker 1 52:44
Yep. Right.
Brandon 52:45
Science has to be is a part of the thing, right? So I, for my number three, right? We have a little bit more grounded one takes place on Earth, Collin. This is a foundational movie for me, right? And so we are putting at number three, Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1 53:05
Oh yes! Oh my gosh! I mean,
Brandon 53:11
what more do you really need to say?
Speaker 1 53:14
Nice. Oh, right. Like
Brandon 53:20
This movie,
Collin 53:21
yeah, is incredible. It is so good. Like, yeah, you know,
Brandon 53:30
right? This stinking everything about this movie is excellent. So, like, I, I think the Jurassic Park just I had to be on my list, there had to be. Who is so? I will watch this movie any time.
Collin 53:45
Yes, any
Speaker 6 53:46
time.
Collin 53:47
And it's and I will stop and watch this movie no matter where it is. Like you said, like on TV, it's just like it. No matter where it is during the story, I will just stop and watch. Oh yeah, moving forward, right? Like I am, I am all about this.
Brandon 54:02
It's very good. It's so like suspenseful and like put in like a good way, not like a ridiculous way. And the pay, like some movies, like it's like suspenseful. Like the buildup is like all crazy, and then the payoff is like, oh, that was not Jurassic Park, ladies. Holy cow!
Collin 54:23
It's so good.
Brandon 54:24
It's so good. Everybody's so good. So we, I put, I put Jurassic Park at number three, right? I mean, come on, dinosaurs running around, right? Also, oh dang it! I went away, right? Rest in peace, Sam Neill. Right, he just recently passed away, I think. So sadness, but there you go. I just live there.
Collin 54:53
Okay. Yeah. I. Yeah. No, that's such a good one. I don't know. Let's see here. What's my third one? No. Oh, never done that. My number two. Oh my gosh, are we already on number two? No, you should be at number
Brandon 55:05
three because I went first.
Collin 55:06
Okay. Okay, that's right. Sorry, I'm panicking over here. I'm panicking over here. Okay, so we've done we've done space. Yeah. We've come we've come back to Earth for my for my for my third. Oh yeah, we've done we've done space. We've come back to Earth for sea. You have done like dinosaurs. I'm not going back to any of those. Instead, I am going back to the future and 1985s. 1985s. Back to the future. Things that I think about. And again, if I go a week without thinking about the flux capacitor-it's not-it's not a good week. It's miracle. I mean, come on! I and and because my son eats so many bananas, I I just always have that scene where they're shoving in the back of it. Just that is a scene that is in my brain, and it's funny. It's also like it touches on some like interesting topics to think about, right? Like what would happen if, and but it does it with come on, like Christopher Lloyd, like you gotta, you gotta, like I just, it's all played believably. Everyone does a great job, and I will watch this. This is another one of my. I will watch all the time, kind of.
Brandon 56:32
Collin, it's so good. It's my number two movie on the list, actually. So I'm just gonna talk with you about this right now. Like I
Speaker 1 56:38
can't, I can't contain
Brandon 56:40
myself any longer. Like I just can't. Like I
Collin 56:43
phenomenal. Phenomenal.
Brandon 56:46
This movie is so like like you said. Like if if I go like three days without quoting Back to the Future, something has gone wrong, right? Like this movie is so like foundationally important for me as a person that I. I like. I don't want to say made, but I did make my wife sit down and watch the trilogy with me before we got married. Like it was like, listen. In order to understand a large number of jokes and references that I make, this is going to be very important for
Collin 57:17
us because
Brandon 57:18
otherwise you'll have no idea what I'm talking?
Collin 57:20
Yes. No, seriously. There's there's no way of understanding me or what is about to happen over the next over the next forever without this same yeah. It's oh like I don't know
Brandon 57:36
how many times I've gotten in the car and been like, all right, phone, right? Like keys, wallet, flux capacitor. Like I'm like flux capacitor, fluxing. Like of
Collin 57:48
course you have to, have to. Oh my gosh! Or or the or 88 miles an hour. Like every time, it's like just for some reason, it's just like you just got to say it sometimes. That's true. Yeah, not that we ever go that fast. No, no, because
Brandon 58:07
that's illegal.
Collin 58:07
Illegal.
Brandon 58:09
Yeah, except for Collin did live in Texas, so like talk about whatever. Like
Collin 58:15
definitely suggestions. And if you type, if you type in, if you go to Google and you type in "Back to the Future" requirements, it'll say here are the time travel mechanics. Required speed exactly 88 miles per hour. The power requirement is is what everyone remembers 1.21 gigawatts. Of course, obviously. And then a real fun car is what it requires you to. Yeah, so that's fine.
Brandon 58:39
That's fine. Like the movie, that movie is just so good. Like, there's nothing bad about that movie.
Speaker 1 58:46
No, no.
Brandon 58:47
Like, it's one of those movies. Like, there's nothing. I have no negatives about the movie. Like, a lot of movies, you can be like, oh, it's got this something I didn't really enjoy. This nah, not Back to the Future. No way. Yeah, movie's like as close to perfect as you could possibly be.
Collin 59:04
Yeah, well, and and one thing I like about it is there are times, honestly, where I am trying to remember a scene, and I will convince myself it was from like Back to the Future two, but no, Back to the Future is there's no wasted scene in that. Oh no! There is not. It's not so much going on as in it is a chaotic film. It's it's just like so rich in everything and purposeful through the story and the plot. Like you are just on and things are happening and it's great. Like it's also great at storytelling. So oh yeah,
Brandon 59:40
I think especially when you take all three of them together, like it's just incredible, like how they all work together. I know a lot of people dog on Back Future Three, but I like that movie a lot. So like, shush, like I don't, it's good. You know, it all ties back in. It's all good. All the things are there. It's fine. So like, I think it's awesome. So yeah, there you go. Sorry, I I tail coated you there. No, that's good. Perfect.
Collin 1:00:04
No, I. This is what it's for. This is what it's for. I will do my number two then. Number two, I'm doing a bit of a zag here. So far, we have done. I will. I'm going to throw on Nausica of the Valley of the Wind, 1984.
Brandon 1:00:22
Oh snap! Oh, oh no! Oh man! Yes,
Collin 1:00:27
yes. Another movie that I have watched this year. Again, that's not saying much. We're sitting in the middle of the year, so there's been a lot of time. But Nosca of the Valley of the Wind. This has such
Brandon 1:00:40
an underrated movie. A very
Collin 1:00:41
underrated movie, very subtle from Hayao Miyazaki on the like, yes, is it an environmentalism film? Sure, is it's not subtle with its message, but not subtle, like, but it's no, that's for sure. But like, is it like there's so many aspects again that this touches on, and the throughline of like of of like doing the opposite of what the world is doing is something that I really enjoy. Of like, hey, all the world's at war. What if we're more pacifist, or all the world is trying to do this? What if we're more violently constant? Let's try and coexist, kind of things. But it's also just beautifully done, like beautifully done, and and introducing the the OM as this like impending doom and destruction of mankind, and the whole like weird giants with lasers that are going to erect that they've been brought to fight them, and like It's just, it's it's chaotic in that sense, and and this is a much this film feels much slower paced in the first like first half is is pretty slow for a lot of people, like, and then it just races towards the end, and everybody ends and gets along, and it's great, and that that there's been some some commentaries on this where it's like the true weapon is empathy. Yeah, actually, actually, like not it's not too bad actually if you think about it that way. Yeah. So, you know, it's also this like it does a good good job of the other. I don't know. I go back and forth on this. Of in sci-fi, I either want to know exactly the mechanics of what is happening and how and what's going on, or don't tell me anything. Just tell you know, just like excite me on this. Yeah, I feel like this makes a little bit of a. It's fine. It's like, where is this? Like, is this is this really Earth, or you know, what is going on here? And we do have space travel, and there's all these different components. Where it's yet another one where Miyazaki does this, and Suiji is really great about this. It's like this is a very very familiar and yet unknown place, and so let's learn about it. And I love that aspect. Yeah,
Brandon 1:03:03
yeah. I also just really love that like '80s animation style. Oh, right. Like, I think some people that like only consume like modern things like may not like that, but like as a person born in the '80s, like I really just, I really like that style of that art style, right? Like it's so cool to me. Just like I don't know if it's like nostalgic a little bit or like or what, but like that art style in that movie is like so good. And I know a lot of people would be like, oh no, but like what about Spirited Way or whatever? Like, yeah, it was good too. But like, the the art style now is great. Like, you can't undervalue them to play that because I think it's so good.
Collin 1:03:48
Yes, I. It's good. So I, yeah. So that's my number. That's my number two. A little bit of a another thing. So I, I am dying to know you're number one after this list. Right in.
Brandon 1:04:01
Well, after really pondering this for a while, there's only one movie that could appear here for me.
Collin 1:04:08
Okay,
Brandon 1:04:09
really, and like just as like a foundational me movie, like also like it's very important here. But like I also like movies like you talk about where it just sort of like drops you in to a universe and you just have to like explore the universe through the characters, right? Like you don't. I don't need. I don't always. I don't. This is again. This is what annoys me about like a lot of sci-fi is like the the over explaining of some stuff. Like I don't need that. I don't need you to over explain it to me, like just, just. I mean, you can tell me a thing, and then like, we'll just go with it, right? Like, it's fine, right? As long as the
Collin 1:04:49
story itself acts consistently with that fact,
Brandon 1:04:52
yeah, yeah, I'm all
Collin 1:04:53
in, right?
Brandon 1:04:54
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't need the like know the physics behind everything or whatever. Like, it's fine as long as it's like. Consistent and it's it's okay, right? But like, as far as like a movie that I think is excellent, and a movie that I have seen like 70 bazillion times, right? This could only be Star Wars Episode Four: A New Hope. Right, like that-that's the only, only possible choice for this.
Collin 1:05:30
You're right
Brandon 1:05:31
for number
Collin 1:05:34
one. No, gosh, and Brandon, it's also-it's so only one choice that it's also my number one. Let's go for me. This was the exact. This is the first one that I wrote down. Of this is going to save Isaac. This is on my list. I don't care. Like and then and then I built around this and it just kept like number one, number one. It just maintained that spot, and I didn't look at like because it has all of the elements to like to me. It is quintessential sci-fi, and yeah, like it's as we've also talked about. It's also quintessential our like my flavor of sci-fi that is not Star Trek of like the everything's perfect and clean and nothing like they just what do you just you just wear one clothes one time and then you pitch it and you get a brand new one like I don't understand what's going on here and there's no message nobody's ever spilled anything on in Starfleet sure sure I got it yeah 100% right yeah that totally how it works no I don't know like what about if for you really captures the essence of what like sci-fi for this list,
Brandon 1:06:41
I mean, it's got it's like it's literally has everything, right? Like it is, like the it's got like all the classic like story beats. It's very hero's journeyy, right? I do love a like getting the team together kind of vibe, right? Like this is a well-known fact about me. I do love the assembling the team thing, right? But also, like, because it's the first one that was released, right? The I know a lot of people are like, "Oh, the empire's better. I don't think so, because a new hope by itself is a complete story,
Collin 1:07:21
absolutely,
Brandon 1:07:22
right? Yep, it has all of the story stuff there, just encapsulated in the one movie, and I don't think any other Star Wars movie was able to do that. Like they all have, like you know, because because every movie after that was like, okay, there's going to be more Star Wars movies.
Collin 1:07:45
That's the thing, New Hamp they didn't. It wasn't guaranteed there would be a number two. So he wanted
Brandon 1:07:51
to do it, right? He had it in mind, like he had all this like crazy, like he had the plan, you know, but he just he didn't know if he's gonna be able to do the plan. So, like the whole movie is just like as one singular movie is excellent, right? It's got it. Just like all the characters are so good, right? They're all I don't know. I just the whole thing is great. Like the whole arc is good, and I do like the the non explaining bits, right? Like I just love like it feels already right in just that one movie. It feels like this little part that you're seeing is part of something enormous. Yeah. Right. Like you really get the galactic scale that there's so much more out there and so much going on by just this little piece of movie, just about because of the dialog of the other characters, you know, and and how they're interacting and like and and how the story is written, and how they go everywhere, and like just the I don't know, it's just so good, and like even just like the characters that you see, right? Like you just like see some Jawas. You're like, what the heck is this? They're just, you know what I mean? Like they're just there. Like it's so interesting that there's like all these different kind of aliens and stuff, and like you don't even like the cantina part, you know, like that's kind of like your first like big introduction to the broader world because it's also Luke's kind of introduction to this. Like, there's just like so many different alien species in there. You're like, what the heck is it? Like, and you know, like you know that, like, there's a such a much bigger world out there than that we know about, and it's like it's very like alluring. You know, like you want to be in this universe, you want to like go and like learn more about it and stuff.
Collin 1:10:00
Yeah,
Brandon 1:10:00
you know what I mean, and so it's just like so broad, and like the story is good. The care, the dial. I also like the snappy banter between all the characters. Is I'm a I love snappy. I love some snappy banter. Well,
Collin 1:10:12
yep, absolutely. So
Brandon 1:10:16
what about you? I'm monopolizing the time, Collin. Why do you? Why did you put this in number one here? This is
Collin 1:10:21
all of that, and it's it it yes again it's it's not just space though. Like you're not just in a starship blasting around all the time. Like you're on planets, you're going around. Like you're you're journeying towards something bigger and greater. And then there's suddenly you're introduced to this mysterious thing called the Force, and like, what on earth is that? How does this fit in here? It really takes you when you're watching it for this this ride of like everything. It and you know that's it's such a well fleshed out world that it's comfortable to be in, even though nothing is familiar, right? You just you're able to accept like, oh yeah, like you said, like Jawas. Okay, yeah, we're just doing that. Just doing that, right? Absolutely. Hyperdrive, sure. I, I, uh huh. Okay. Oh, oh, it's broken. Okay. Like, what is? How are we fixing it? I don't know. But there's a droid beeping at me from a little crate, and underneath there's like, okay, yeah, we're just everything is like is there, and sure, there are plot holes. It's like, why does the Empire have the same kind of service port that everyone else does? That's our souk and whatever, whatever. It's fine. There's one standard
Brandon 1:11:34
standardized USB C, right? Exactly. We're on
Collin 1:11:38
the track to this. So if you want your Death Star protected, fight against the EU's regulations against sterilization. People, don't actually do that. Don't don't let Apple do many
Brandon 1:11:47
things. It's also
Collin 1:11:49
just fun, and I think that's the other thing too. Of it is, I know people. Oh, it's a space opera or whatever, but yeah, no, it's just like it's a
Brandon 1:11:57
fun adventure story. It's an adventure,
Collin 1:11:59
which and and yes, there are serious moments. This is so. This is a hard distinction for me of a movie that is serious, but it's not a movie that takes itself seriously. I don't know. Does that make sense at all? Like yes, like I, and and that's another reason where it's like because it's so believable, all the characters are in there, and and again, all the technology and everything that's going around it is just-it's awe-inspiring to just like be boom. This is a thing. There are swords that glow, and we're just like I just-it's such-it captures the imagination so many aspects, and I think that's when sci-fi is at its best of allowing you to see different worlds without having to think through the details of what makes it possible, and yeah, and because we're just-it's like this dream of what could be, and this just this completely knocks it out of that park.
Brandon 1:12:53
That's true. I mean, who doesn't think lightsabers are cool?
Collin 1:12:56
Yeah, right.
Brandon 1:12:57
Like,
Collin 1:13:00
show this movie to anybody. They don't go, huh? Yeah, like yo, I want one of those.
Brandon 1:13:05
Unfruit them. Yes, that is that is the that is the goal. Yeah, you're just like I wish I had a lightsaber. Yes,
Collin 1:13:14
I I know. Yeah, yes. So yes, so that's there. We are there. We are man. Okay, these are good lists. I like it so much.
Brandon 1:13:26
Do you have any rapid fire honorable mentions or runners up?
Collin 1:13:30
I started to write some down, and then I was like, I can't, I can't. Because it gets too
Brandon 1:13:34
long. It gets too long, and then I was talking to
Collin 1:13:37
myself about how this could be in there or not. True. And I so I did not I I wrapped up at five and also just because it's like am I gonna put Planet of the Apes on here right am I oh no like I'm not gonna do that I'm not gonna I'm gonna watch I've watched 2001 of Space Odyssey exactly one time and I'm never gonna watch it again like I'm not gonna put that on the list. It's like while I've seen and I like a bunch of movies, it's like, yeah, I guess I don't know. So I don't know. What do you have? You have a rapid fire list. Well,
Brandon 1:14:11
not if you're not gonna have any. I don't want. I don't want to do that. So like, no, leave it there too. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Collin 1:14:15
Text me your list later. Okay, okay, okay.
Brandon 1:14:19
I mean, they're all they're just movies. I'm like, oh, these are good movies, but like, are they my favorite movies? Yeah. Nah. So like, I didn't put them on there either. So that's right. You'll just have to wonder, listeners. All right. Speaking of wondering, I do have a haiku for you somewhere in my notes app, which is there.
Collin 1:14:45
There we go. Found it. Found it. Okay.
Brandon 1:14:49
All right. Desolate coastline. Memories strewn along the sand. Beckoning towards home.
Speaker 1 1:15:03
Okay, okay. Saves up for the rest of us. Can
Brandon 1:15:13
can use that one, Christopher. All right. Yeah.
Collin 1:15:16
Just chilling crickets. Okay. Oh, that's yeah. That's that's okay. Mail that to mr. Nolan there. Where was this in the in the opening sequence? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on now. That's really good. I really like that a lot. That's a good. Amazing, Amazing goodness. Well, that's gonna be that's okay. That's marking this one. Here we go. It's going in bold. All right. Okay. When we print our book,
Brandon 1:15:51
I'll have to have Matt Damon sign that page, right? Yes. Let's
Collin 1:15:54
see. We can do this. We can do this. Love it. Oh well. There we go. Okay, that's great. It's good. I got. I got some movie. I got to go back and watch some movies now. Yeah. Okay. Oh, and we will. We'll do this soon.
Brandon 1:16:14
All right.
Collin 1:16:15
Okay. Love you.
Brandon 1:16:16
Love you too. Bye. Bye.