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Brandon & Collin

A Jeep thing happened to Collin. Brandon watched a movie. We talk about vents and dampers.

Collin’s Haiku

Everyone has gone
Only the stars swim with us
Summer whispers on

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Collin 0:05

Welcome to Oh Brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out with your hosts Brandon and Collin on this week's show, Frozen Books. Ahoy!

Brandon 0:18

Ahoy!

Collin 0:18

What's going on?

Brandon 0:19

Not a lot. How are you?

Collin 0:21

Ah, I am well. I yes, it was not as hot today. Still humid, but there we go. That's

Brandon 0:30

true. It was so humid it rained here this afternoon.

Collin 0:32

Oh, oh my! That is quite the level of humidity. It

Brandon 0:35

was. It was one of those, like we're sitting here and all of a sudden she was like, Is it raining? Why yes, yes it is. Just so happens

Collin 0:47

to be actually,

Brandon 0:49

I couldn't believe

Collin 0:50

it. Nice, we got rained quite a

Brandon 0:52

bit. It was quite a downpour, and then it's been raining a little bit off and on, and apparently it's just sprinkling right now because she went out for her little after dinner walk and she came back inside. Was like, "How are you? She's like, "Um, what? I don't know. Bit damp. Yeah. Surprise, little on there. So surprise.

Collin 1:10

Ha! Rain. Yeah. Oh. Oh no. That's that is lovely.

Brandon 1:15

Yeah. So it was nice. Nice today. Not 105 degrees mostly. That's the important part. Today was not 105 degrees today. My

Collin 1:28

air conditioner was very happy because it did not have to run for 19 hours straight today to keep my house cold. Oh yeah, I

Brandon 1:36

mean mine. I put it up at like like I've been boosting it during the daytime, right? Like keeping the air, like keeping the temperature set high.

Collin 1:45

Yeah, yeah.

Brandon 1:46

And then like in the in the evening, sort of gently stepping it down because you can't step it down too far, otherwise it's like it can't cycle. You have to like go down like one degree at a time, you know. Otherwise, it won't. It can't keep up and like put it all the way through for everywhere else in the world, not in the United States. 105 degrees Fahrenheit, roughly 40 degrees Celsius. So thank you,

Collin 2:12

thank you for. There you go.

Brandon 2:13

You're welcome for that. That's how hot it was today here yesterday and the day before. Actually, since Monday, I think.

Collin 2:22

Oh, really? Yes. Yeah. Last last

Brandon 2:25

two days has been very hot.

Collin 2:27

Yeah, has not been enjoyable. That is for very darn sure. And I have rued rued each day with with malice.

Speaker 1 2:38

I struggle.

Collin 2:39

No, it's been. I I did some driving around today. I drove out to Colombia to go do a stint of trying to continue to learn that area, and I was very happy that it wasn't hot. Our little our our Jeep. We have a Jeep Cherokee, and for the longest time, whoa! It has it even on Max Air. It doesn't feel like it's blowing out of like the dash vents at full. Oh, don't

Speaker 1 3:18

tell Dad. I know it feels as though it's

Collin 3:21

getting lost in a damper buried deep in the dash somewhere. Oh yeah, some damper

Brandon 3:29

is not opened all the way. Yes, that feels like a jeep thing to happen.

Collin 3:33

Yes, yes, and so right, like that is. It is definitely a jeep thing to happen where it's like there is air, but not a lot.

Brandon 3:43

Where did it go? Yes, question.

Collin 3:46

Yes, it's like I feel because it's like it like makes a lot of noise, but I'm like, oh, that is the noise of the damper holding back the air that should be hitting my face. This is this is what is happening, and oh no, and you can kind of get it to pop open if you close

Brandon 4:03

punch the under the thing like no smack

Collin 4:06

it no if you close all of the vents but one usually that's enough okay well that's like okay usually that's enough resistance to make it pop open at least for a little while and then it'll sit there it'll be like open it'll blow and then be like I'm shut and then it'll be like I'm open so it just it's very confused and I there's the other thing hypothesis

Brandon 4:31

yeah I think the plastic on that's warping and like getting stuck that's not opening and closing properly it could

Collin 4:38

be sticky because it's just you know it's a it's an 11 year old car. Well, I mean, plus

Brandon 4:43

plus with like, if it's like a thinner piece of plastic, like with the temperature changes, it's going to be like expanding and contracting. Yeah, right, and like warping shape, and so that it can't move freely like it's supposed to. Yeah,

Collin 4:56

I definitely agree that there's there's some warpage going on potentially. Hypothesis. A hypothesis of orbit. Based

Brandon 5:03

on vents and dampers that I have seen, they do that.

Collin 5:09

I don't know why that was so funny. Based on vents and dampers I have seen, I was not. You know, vast, extensive knowledge and experience in. I need

Brandon 5:23

you to remember who our father is.

Collin 5:24

I know, I know. That's why there's a very small subset of people who could be like, I have a lot of experience in Vincente.

Brandon 5:36

Exactly.

Collin 5:37

That's what some niche

Brandon 5:40

skills right here, right?

Collin 5:42

That is 100% true. Oh my goodness, yeah. So that's I was glad because when I drive around, it's like when the damper is is being is mostly shut. It like it keeps you cool, but only just in the hottest of hot days, where it's like the moment, like it. You never get to the point where you're like, I am chilly now. I can turn this down. Like you have to maintain full blowing. So, it. I've been. I was very happy because I was driving around and not having to swelter and swarm around today. But

Speaker 1 6:15

that is good.

Collin 6:16

Yes, that is good. Yes, very. So no, I. It's been, it's been. I actually had to pull up my calendar today to even see what on earth has happened in my life since we last spoke. And

Brandon 6:30

that is true. The doldrums of summer are dragging. Actually, I'm almost. I have to go back to school in a couple weeks, so it's like I'll be regretting saying that. But I am also like, when

Speaker 1 6:39

did I talk to you? What happened yesterday? What's going on? So yeah,

Brandon 6:45

it's a little like, oh. While you're looking, I will tell you the first thing that we did this week, right? Well, this is not this like a big. This is not going to be a big involved thing, but I think you'll appreciate this, right? This theo this feels like a thing that you will Appreciate right. Susan organized a get together for her family, right, with some of her like cousins that they haven't seen in like ages. Oh right, and so they or it was originally going to be a bigger thing, but then there was like work conflicts and things like this, right? And and we they'd already rescheduled it once because her mom was sick back in the in like January or whatever. So like they rescheduled it for the summer, and then like work stuff happened, blah blah whatever. They anyway, anyway, that's not important. What's important is people came, right? People came and they did what she is affectionately referring to as the snap swap, where they brought like all their old photo albums, right, and were like sharing old pictures of each other, right? Like, oh, here's this picture of you that I have from your eighth birthday party.

Collin 8:00

I, I freaking love this so much,

Brandon 8:04

or just like really old family photos, because she has a lot of like really old pictures of like very old relations, right? Like they're like her great grandparents, not not a lot, but she has like a few, right? Of like these people, and there's like pictures of like the old farmhouse that multiple different groups of people in her family have lived in at various times, right? Like, right? Like somebody lived there, and then like one of the cousins actually lived there for a while, and then like her mom and dad lived there for a while, and she grew up there part part of the time, right? Like as a whole, like so everybody has like been involved with this certain house for a long, so they have like very old pictures of that when it was like a one room house, right? Like before all the different adding on and like different people's grandparents and like all this stuff. So they had that big thing over at her mom's house the other day, and so it was pretty cool, right? I felt and they like they just like were taking pictures on, you know, showing each other all the pictures and doing that stuff, and they're gonna like make copies for each other and send them out and do a thing, right? Like that was the plan. So that's what. Yeah.

Collin 9:13

Oh, that's really nice. And and I mean, gosh. So did she? That's why she

Brandon 9:18

was sending you pictures of your very young self, right? Because that she was like in the middle of looking through photo albums for like pictures of her cousins and stuff. Okay, and she was like, "Oh, here's this picture of like Collin from when Brandon and I met. Like, wow, okay, that's

Collin 9:33

weird. Did so? Did the people get to? That was the context for why that happened. You know what? I I was just like, you know, Susan's on? She's doing something. I'm not going to question this. Did people get to like? Did you make copies of the photos, or did you literally hand them the photo that you had with that person in it?

Brandon 9:50

Well, so they they're going to make copies of them, right? And then they did just like take pictures of the picture on their phone, so they could like make digital photos. And some of them, they're just going to like. Print those ones, and then they're also going to like make copies and like mail them, right? They're going to do. There's several different plans happening, but yeah, because they a lot of them they want to keep their original photos in their albums, but like they wanted to make sure like, oh, did you have this picture of this person? You know, I want you to see this and that kind of stuff, right? So yeah, that is the the back end of that, but it was yeah, it was kind of cool, right? Like,

Collin 10:25

well, little album

Brandon 10:26

going through, yeah, well,

Collin 10:29

and it's because at family gatherings, you don't know who's taking photos, you don't know where things are coming and going, and who's taking photos of what, and you might find that like, oh my gosh! I didn't know you had this photo. I've had a memory of this for such a long time. Or I just I I think that's well, yeah. You know,

Brandon 10:47

and there was a lot of like, oh my gosh, you have a photo of like ex relative, right? Like I don't have any pictures of them because it's like you know cousins or something like that, right? Like you don't have a lot of pictures of like those people, right, or people that like, I don't know. I can't remember. There's some interesting family dynamics that are happening, but like, you know, like we don't have a lot of pictures of like even like a there's a one of her cousins that lives around. She we see her all the time, but like we don't have pictures of her, you know, from like when they were younger spending a lot of time together. So it was nice to see some of those and like stuff like that. And there was a couple like, oh my gosh, you have a picture of them, like I can't believe I haven't I haven't seen a picture of them in forever because I don't have any, right? So that was that was kind of cool.

Collin 11:33

No, I think that's I like that because it's also a wonderful way to have the family. I don't know, like they just come together and and get to share and obviously relive. So I I think this is fantastic. I'm a big I am a plus one fan of this.

Brandon 11:51

I thought you would be. I knew you would be. So I wanted to. Yeah,

Collin 11:56

but because you just like again, you just never know, and it's also a a way to you. It's a different, it's a different take on the hey, the family gets together and talks about the past because now it's like you are reliving it with together, and and here's the proof, and I don't know. It just makes it a lot more tangible. I think. Yeah,

Brandon 12:18

I mean, she she whipped out. Like Susan has one picture. She wanted to make sure her brother, because her brother is the big like family history guy, right? In their family, you know, everybody's got one of those, right? Like, so her brother is the big family history guy. So she whips out this like photo. She's like, "Oh yeah, my grandma gave this to me. I didn't know if you'd ever seen it. It's a picture of her grandmother's Husband, right? As a small boy with all of his brothers, and this thing is like a tintype, right? Like it's like a little tiny. Wow, it's like a one by two like tin type photo. So this sucker is mega old, right? This was probably from the like 20s, right? Like

Collin 13:09

that's crazy,

Brandon 13:10

or something like that, right? Maybe even older. I don't even know. Like, so that was also kind of crazy. And he was like, "What did? What is this?

Collin 13:20

Where did this get unearthed? Yeah, yeah.

Brandon 13:28

So yeah, that was that was our first big thing we did this week. That was I was trying. We we did like Sunday, I think, is when they did that.

Collin 13:34

So it

Brandon 13:35

was pretty cool. I was trying to like we sort of I was just sort of like sitting in a corner, like, yeah, I totally know what you're talking about. Yeah, of course, I have no clue what's going on. Like,

Collin 13:47

I know nothing and no one. Yeah,

Brandon 13:50

so it's fine. And then yesterday we did like a giant. It was giant antique thrift thrifting day.

Collin 14:14

Yeah, you were. I was getting these photos. Welcome of things.

Brandon 14:20

Well, Dusty came down, right, and she's all about that kind of thing. So we went and did that, and just like hung out with her all day. But we did like massive thrifting stuff. Went to like many things, and I had to say, do the picture of the stamp thing because I I saw that it was like a a carousel of like stamps, like, and I, I just like was struck in the face with like this incredible sense memory of like, oh my, I haven't seen a stamp like this, and like Dad used to have them at work and at home, right? And like all this stuff, I was like,

Collin 14:57

yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a lot. It's yeah, because it was a lot. Oh my gosh!

Brandon 15:06

I have not been confronted with one of these in ages.

Collin 15:11

I don't think people appreciate just the amount of stamps that continue that adults used in official business life, it's that they you just don't have that anymore. I mean, Dad had one for like, gosh, what were his like? He had the one. I remember he had the gray one that he we had one that was like

Brandon 15:34

an address

Collin 15:35

to address, but he could also dial it to he had

Brandon 15:38

a signature one.

Collin 15:39

Yes, it was the signature, and that's what he would use for. He would sit down, he'd pay bills, and he'd write the checks at the table, and you could set the date. I remember the the signature one. There was another one where he could set the date on it, and that that one was the one where it was it was the signature one was gray, and you just it was like the foldy, empty one. Yes, and it would push, and the contraption would flip over and hit these. Yeah, but I think he had a couple of these as well. He did, and

Brandon 16:07

I remember he had some at like his old job too, like a long time ago. I remember them for, and I don't know if they were like address it, like address. So they just stamped the front of the envelope, right? Yeah, like the return address, like bang. Yes, address what it was.

Speaker 2 16:21

Yes,

Brandon 16:24

but when I saw that, I was just like, "Huh, oh my gosh, that is not that is a thing that I have not thought about in so long. No, I was just like, it took me a minute to like form words to be like, Susan, look at this

Collin 16:41

data! It's crazy, yeah. Now, now you only really see those those kind of and people they're the they're either plastic cased now or the ones that Brandon sent over. They're the wooden handles, and these are the old ones. These are the cool. I love these. Yeah, and you like on the

Brandon 17:02

side. There's like a thing of like what it says, right? Yes. Yep. And they'd be usually covered with masking tape. Drawers to the side, yeah. Many

Collin 17:09

times with lots of masking tape, and you would put it in a drawer, and then you'd have the stamp pad that you'd come out, and you'd be like a flicker, flicker, and then you'd stamp documents with certain things until it would start to fade, and then you'd go down the path and go back to it, and most of the time people may see these if you ever do like a a notary public or whatever. Yeah,

Brandon 17:30

but that one's usually like a raised one, like a it's like a metal like imprinty thing.

Collin 17:35

Yeah, usually that, or it's the more like flicker flicker stampy thing. Oh yeah, yeah. Anyway, I I like these. I like stamps. I wish I had more use of stamps in my life, but I don't. I mean, that's why

Brandon 17:53

I didn't buy it. Number one, it was like too expensive for what it was, and then like I was like, what am I gonna do with stamps of like another person's name? And I mean, other than catch me with you can, right? Like, but like, sure, but it was like, and just like random. One of them was just like a, it was like it was like attention or something like that, right? So you just like, like, yeah. So that was kind of cool. Well,

Collin 18:17

people, people may also be familiar with these in movies where it says top secret, and people stamp documents as top secret too. But I've always wanted a top secret one. That's true. There was none

Speaker 1 18:26

of those. Oh, that's cool.

Brandon 18:38

Right, but the main event yesterday. Well, hold on. While we were in the middle of all the antique store, I did find the book section right at one of these stores that I don't go into very often. Yeah, and Collin, I found a giant pile of 1960s mass market paperback sci-fi books for 50 cents a piece. So I bought four. I bought four. Obviously,

Collin 19:13

yes. This is perfect. So

Brandon 19:21

I know I did buy them.

Collin 19:25

This

Brandon 19:26

is I have to send you a picture of them later because I was a little suspicious. Like, okay, so like I'm I decided that I was gonna I'm experimenting with extra precautionary steps here. Oh, today because I did read that if you get some like really old, like they were in a pot, they were this big pile of like all kinds of other books in a pretty like old building. So I was like, I read that if you like put them all, like make sure they're like really dry stuff, and put them into. Ziploc bag and like freeze them for a day or two, like and make sure there's like no bugs in them.

Collin 20:08

Freeze your you know this is actually yeah because you can introduce a lot of nasty yeah like even

Brandon 20:14

things like silverfish or like something oh yeah yeah put that junk in there right so if you I read a thing I was like if you freeze them for like, I think it's like between 48 to 72 hours, and then just like bring them out and just like let them slowly thaw on the counter, like that that can really help make sure there's not. And I don't think there's anything in there, but like, you know, these are like they're you know a little sus. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna try it out. If it ruins a book that I bought for 50 cents at a random store, like I don't really care that much, right? Like these aren't great, but like I just wanted to read you some of the titles. Oh, right. Yeah. So there may be some at some point. I may eventually get around to reading a couple of these. I don't know how soon it'll be, but like, so just be on the lookout. Future segment, reading these books. Right, we have something called the Last Hope of Earth. Oh yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. It gets better. You ready? Time Gladiator. Oh my goodness! I you okay? How could you not buy a book called Time Gladiator for 50 cents? Right, that really just feels important. I have something called the Yingling. Apparently, that's like a whole series. I looked it up. I didn't read what the book's about. Really, I don't remember, but it's it's a thing. And then, best for last, the five-way secret agent in the mercenary of tomorrow.

Collin 21:55

The what? What in the 19? Okay, that is

Brandon 22:02

a name. That is a name and a half. That is

Collin 22:06

doing a lot of work.

Brandon 22:08

That is, oh my goodness! So I don't know. So I don't. There you go. That is another book that I got.

Collin 22:20

That is definitely another book, and now I don't know if I want you to read that one or the gladiator one.

Brandon 22:27

Oh yeah, right. Like I mean, I I will send you a picture of these covers later because holy. It's the other reason you buy books like this because the covers are insane. Like what is going on right here? This is the cover art that I that's missing in modern day books, right? When you see all the books on Book Talk and like stuff where they're like all clean and they're like really weird, like pastelly colors, and like they have like their fancy sprayed edges, and then you see the cover of Time Gladiator. Yes, that is the correct book cover, ladies and gentlemen. That's the one you want,

Collin 23:07

and people, yeah, they. It gets too slick. I mean, and those those were also like hand painted initially, you know. And somebody sat down and was like, "I know they will look at this book, guys. I know, and know, and know that it is amazing. Yes,

Brandon 23:27

they are in the freezer for precautionary measures currently. So, like, you know. So

Collin 23:32

how how long do you leave a book in the freezer? Well, it said

Brandon 23:36

between I think 48 to 72 hours.

Collin 23:39

Okay, that seems that seems good. Yeah,

Brandon 23:41

yeah. They've only been in for about 24. So okay. Well, I mean, I put them in yesterday afternoon at like 4o'clock. So yeah, a little over 24. But like, that's so even there till maybe maybe Friday at noon time or whatever, and see see what's up. But but yeah, that was the big. I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is beautiful! I must have.

Collin 24:06

You know, it really was. They was they are such. I was trying to think of. I had. I don't remember where my old. I've got a whatever. I'll have to fight this offline. But that's cool. I'm glad you got those because those are definitely look. They're not worth a lot, but they are priceless. Is what I'm going to say. Yeah.

Brandon 24:28

Right. Like I are. I do have a small collection of such books. Right. Like those little mass market paperback, like the pocket size ones. Right. Like sitting over here on my bookshelf, so I mean, I couldn't say no when they were only 50 cents. When I spent $2 on some some literature, now I don't know

Collin 24:50

some, but you know, it's it's also one of those like we've talked about this about the rise in the price of books and it stops you from wanting to take. Chance on just who knows if it's going to be good or not, and this is the perfect example of like why 50 cent books are needed. Because again, like is it going to be high literature, right? Is this going to be you know massive, whatever? Yeah, no, probably. Who knows? Who knows? But but also it now you get to take that chance. I love it. It's gonna be

Brandon 25:23

a ride, is what's gonna be right? Like that's gonna

Collin 25:26

yeah.

Brandon 25:30

So that's that's gonna be so that's yeah. I'm gonna look forward to that. I'm gonna try to fit these in here into my reading curriculum I've been doing here myself. Here, I've got another sci-fi book for the list to queue up for tomorrow, so forthcoming. Okay, stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen, for that. There we go. But Collin, the bad sci-fi didn't stop there because yesterday Dusty finally wore Susan down,

Collin 26:01

oh,

Brandon 26:01

and convinced her to. We like all watched together, me and Dusty for like the 700th time. I'm sure that her daughter was like really not excited that we were watching this movie again because I think they watch it at home a lot. But it's, But she finally wore Susan down, and she made Susan watch

Speaker 1 26:30

Tremors.

Collin 26:31

Oh, what? How is Susan never watched Susan?

Brandon 26:45

I don't know. I don't know how you've lived without seeing the movie at least once, right? At least once. I think this was Dusty's argument, and so she finally convinced her that it was time to happen, and and this is the this is

Collin 27:04

the what the 19 this is 1990 right yeah yeah but Kevin Bacon Reba with Reba and Earl Bassett with Fred like Fred Ward right Ward oh yeah this is

Brandon 27:20

and and I didn't remember the general store owner guy, like the Asian store owner guy, is the grandpa from the Three Ninjas. What? What? What? Yes, yes.

Collin 27:32

Okay. I didn't even make that connection

Brandon 27:35

ever until yesterday. Yeah. I had

Collin 27:37

no idea. no idea.

Brandon 27:43

A massive '90s crossover event, right? That is very important. Yes.

Collin 27:47

Again, speaking of foundational movies to us, yeah, three

Brandon 27:51

ninjas,

Collin 27:52

three ninjas. Ah, man, and there is, jeez, it's three trimmers. Man, you would like the number of spinoffs from Trimmers, not spinoffs, but like sequels. Yeah, apparently

Brandon 28:06

there are like seven. Yes,

Collin 28:08

I just pulled it up. Okay, ready for this? Trimmers come out in 1990. Trimmers 219 96. Then again, these are great titles. Okay, Trimmers two aftershocks. Then Trimmers three back to perfection, 2001, and then it speeds up. People, Trimmers Four: The Legend Begins, 2004, 2000 Tremors Five: Bloodlines, 2015; Trimmers: A Cold Day in Hell, 2018, and then Trimmers Shrieker Island, 2020, and they have a television series that happens somewhere in there as well,

Brandon 28:41

as insane. I'm pretty sure I've only seen the first two.

Collin 28:46

Oh, I have. Yeah, I I have seen trimmers.

Brandon 28:50

Not, I've never seen any of the woods.

Collin 28:52

No,

Brandon 28:52

I mean obviously Jesse has seen all of them. I think multiple times. But

Collin 28:55

Brandon, for our listeners who haven't seen trimmers, how would you summarize the plot? The

Brandon 29:01

plot is very-it's classic plot, really, Collin. Where it's small town, right in the American Southwest. I feel like I don't really know if there's ever a state given here, but it feels very Arizonay. But I don't know if that's true. I don't remember actually where it's supposed to take place. But it's very deserty. The town is so small. There's like 10 people in it. That's all. It's in the movie. It's like 10 people, but it's like small town. Like everybody is just minding their business. Strange things start occurring, right? Oh, what are these? What are these weird earthquakes going on? Oh my god! Oh my gosh! It's a sandworm that eats people. That's that's tremors. Can you survive the sandworm that eats people? That's that's a plot. There it is. Boom.

Collin 29:52

Yep, giant sandworm eats people, and everyone loves like the the thing that makes. Makes this so much fun is is it wait what's his name is it Bert the banter

Brandon 30:05

the snappy banter that's really yes also

Collin 30:07

also Bert and Bert solves everything with more and more increasingly absurd like amounts of firepower and like I don't yes you're just like, what if

Brandon 30:20

I tried to shoot it with a bigger gun? In a bigger gun, yeah. That's pretty much how he does it, right? Like that's how he goes there. So that's,

Collin 30:31

yep, yep, and gosh. So okay, so Susan, she sat through it all. What? What was the verdict of this? Now

Brandon 30:41

I think, like she claims that she wasn't impressed, but I think she's pulling on a little bit. I think she's keeping up appearances a little bit. I think it wasn't quite as bad as she thought it was going to be.

Collin 30:53

See, see, that's it. That's it. I don't think

Brandon 30:56

I don't think she's a fan, per se.

Collin 30:59

Okay,

Brandon 31:00

but you know, but that's. I guess we could ask her real quick. We just be like, "Hey,

Collin 31:08

I mean, yeah, I mean, you totally could. But also, I feel like it's one of those that, like, on like the fourth watch is when you really start to understand.

Brandon 31:21

I don't think it needs to take that many, right? You know, I feel like I feel like it's pretty one-dimensional. Maybe with the second watch, you might need another watch. But like, it's either gonna like it or not. But I think I think she didn't hate it as much as she thought she was going to. That's a win. So we're gonna.

Collin 31:40

I would take that. I would take this, and that often is is the is the level that we have to reach. And so, just you know, what I didn't hate it, and that's fine. That's fine. Yes. Oh my goodness. Well, I'm glad you got the the movie watched because, huh, yeah, I I have been I man again I I've been scrolling at my my calendar this week has just been slammed with non important things or exciting things it does no I um I I I've been going on a kick recently of uh of relaxing to Haya Miyazaki films, which is a thing that I return to probably about once every 18 months. About once every 18 months, and I

Brandon 32:30

feel like that's a good that's a good

Collin 32:33

it's a good tense, right? We like that. Yeah,

Speaker 1 32:36

that's okay.

Collin 32:37

Oh, and I'm always torn, Brandon. I'm always torn. Do I watch them in Japanese with the subtitles, or do I watch them in the with the English dub?

Brandon 32:50

I think it depends on the movie.

Collin 32:52

Okay, yeah,

Brandon 32:53

right. I usually just watch them in Japanese, but I have seen them in English too. I think maybe I don't know if I've seen all of them in English. Actually, I can't remember because I haven't seen any of those a long time. But yeah, it depends. It also depends on like the vibe. Like, are you gonna cause you do have to like pay rapt attention to it if you're gonna be watching Japanese, right? But if you want it to be like on and like you want to be vibing with it, but you also want to be able to like get up and like get a snack and like do whatever, like English is fine too, right? Because there is a lot of good voice acting for that, so like it's fine. They got a lot of good people to do the the translation dub, so I don't think it matters really.

Collin 33:45

No, that's that's exactly where I fall. Of I swap back and forth between, okay, am I writing something while I want to have this on? Well, then I I have to have the English dub on, or am I sitting down to relax and just kind of be here. Well, then I I I will just I will I will listen to it and you know have the subtitles on, and so it is more of a of a mood thing. But I've been I've been just finished up Howl's Moving Castle last night. Nice, yeah. That's one where I like. I I have to. I return there a lot in my day, or whenever I when I do. That's usually one of the first ones that I watch. Is is Howls, and then I usually move on to Princess Mononoke, and then I get more obscure after that because I don't know. I just like to go back there and go through other stuff and other things. How long does it

Brandon 34:43

take you to get to Porco Rosso? That's the real question.

Collin 34:45

Actually, this time, Porco Rosso, man, what a weird movie. That is yes, that's why I said that. What a weird that one is a bit Zadie, right? Just like okay, and there's a pig, and he's he's flying, and we're like, what are we? Okay, like it's yeah, yeah, exactly. Got turned into a pig during the war, but he's like, how? I don't. It's it's just an. It's an interesting one. Yeah,

Brandon 35:23

and I think the the English voice actor is also Michael Keaton. Just throw that in there, right? Oh

Collin 35:30

yeah. Yep, that's a good one. Oh my goodness, the one that I don't watch much is the From up on Poppy Hill, have you watched this movie?

Brandon 35:42

I don't even think I've seen that one.

Collin 35:44

Okay, like this is-I

Brandon 35:49

don't know. Yeah, I don't think that doesn't sound familiar at

Collin 35:55

all. I'm trying to figure out how to summarize this, the most, but basically, like it's it's two kids who are trying to prevent their clubhouse from being destroyed for the Tokyo Olympics, and their their just their battle for that and how they they come together over over that. It's a that's like the entire thing of like don't let the clubhouse get destroyed. That's it. So that's that's one that I avoid a lot. But also, I don't think

Brandon 36:34

I've seen any of the mainline films here after Ponyo.

Collin 36:39

Oh, okay, yeah,

Brandon 36:40

right. I have not seen that one, and I didn't watch The Wind Rises, and I never made it to see The Boy and the Heron.

Collin 36:47

Yeah,

Brandon 36:48

even though my friend said that was really good, I didn't. I didn't make it to that one.

Collin 36:52

The the other one that I don't. Well, I watched exactly one time, and then I will not watch again. Is a Grave of the fireflies.

Brandon 37:01

No, you don't watch. No, okay, yes, that's you don't watch that one until

Collin 37:05

that. That is vibe out and like

Brandon 37:08

no, no, that's the opposite of what that movie is. Holy smoly, no! Like, no way,

Collin 37:16

no, no. This is, but that's a movie

Brandon 37:19

I always bring up. People like it's just a cartoon. It's not that deep, bro. Like, guys, listen. Let me tell you about a little called Grave of the Firefly.

Collin 37:30

Yeah, yeah, just exactly what you want is not what you know. It's not what

Speaker 1 37:38

you want.

Collin 37:38

No. Yeah. If ever there was a a commentary on war and the impacts on the society around it, boy, how like, yeah. I think

Brandon 37:53

looking at this list, I think the ultimate vibe movie is definitely My Neighbor Totoro.

Collin 38:00

Oh yeah,

Brandon 38:01

right.

Collin 38:02

Yeah,

Brandon 38:02

like all the other ones are. I mean, that one is just like the most vibey out of all of these. I think like the most chill. It's just like you know people doing like normal stuff, and then they're like, "I'm sick, and they're like, "Yeah, but anyway, we're just gonna keep on doing stuff and get some corn. And then all of a sudden, there's a cat bus, and you're like, "What in the world? Okay, whatever.

Collin 38:23

What? That's the best part of that entire movie of like boom cat bus, and you're like, "Oh, what is yeah? What? What is this? What is going on? Oh, You're like yeah that it is oh my goodness there's just I don't I don't know it's yeah I think that's

Brandon 38:47

like the vibeiest movie out of all of these

Collin 38:51

sure

Speaker 1 38:52

yeah I'm just looking at this list trying to remember them because yeah I haven't seen them in a long time I have to try to find some of these

Collin 39:00

it's good it's good so that's that's all I've been doing. I've been doing my slow 18th month cyclical walk through various Miyazaki films. That was good. It's the only exciting thing that I have done. Honestly, it's been. It's been.

Brandon 39:26

I will give you then my I can give you a a bit of a random book review if you want.

Collin 39:36

Oh yes.

Brandon 39:37

Speaking of war and its effect on people. All right. So I have been doing a personal, just sort of like broadening the horizons. Right. So I've been trying to read more books from countries that are not the U.S. and England.

Collin 39:56

Okay.

Brandon 39:57

Right. So I have I have created. A bit of a chaotic spreadsheet. I don't think you would like look at this, but it's okay. It's fine because I put like the lists. I put like I made the big list. I copied like countries of the world, right? And then at the end, I went and like added a bunch of like other territories and stuff that aren't like necessarily countries, like in the you know, they're like maybe like independent administrative area, whatever, like, and some like disputed. So I've added to the bottom of the list. So it's it's alphabetical until it isn't. Like

Collin 40:34

that's how it that's how it goes. It is until it isn't.

Brandon 40:36

I understand. But so I've been going through. I went through and I added a couple of books that I've read before, and then I've been trying to find books from other countries. Right. So so far on the list, I've got. I'll just go through the names of the countries I've read so far. So I've I've read books from Denmark. At least one book from the following: Denmark, Germany, Italy, Nigeria. That was new this summer: Norway, Paraguay, Russia, Sweden, the U.S. and the U.K.

Collin 41:06

Oh wow!

Brandon 41:07

That's all I got. Right, I love this. So, one the book that I just finished earlier this morning. Right, I read a book from Albania.

Collin 41:19

Whoa! Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Brandon 41:24

So I've read. It's called the General of the Dead Army.

Collin 41:30

Okay. Yeah. So

Brandon 41:31

how can you not read a book with that title?

Collin 41:33

No.

Brandon 41:34

Right. If you want to talk about a title that will grab you, that's the one. Right. So this guy is written. It's written by Ismail Cadre, who apparently has actually like accidentally discovered he's like the preeminent Albanian author, right? Apparently of his time, right? He wrote like tons of stuff. He's won prizes and things. Actually, had to go into exile in France during Albania's communist regime because he was not very happy with them, and they didn't like what he was writing about. Because he does it in this book that takes place in the 1960s, he didn't mention them once, and they didn't like that. Oh,

Collin 42:11

how dare they!

Brandon 42:13

I know. So he writes all of his books are about like the Albanian people and their struggle and like all this stuff, but this book is very weird because it's about it's about like the main characters aren't even named, right? It's the general and the priest, right? And they have come to Albania. They're they're Italian, right? And they have come to Albania to Like return dead soldiers back to Italy. So their mission. This is from World War II, right? So they're coming. So the they there was a big. The Italians were fighting through Albania to like Greece against like all the the Ottoman stuff. So like, and the fronts over there against the communists, and lots of lots of badness happening over there. And but they're trying to find dead soldiers, so they're going around the country, looking in graveyards. They've got all these like lists and maps of like, oh yeah, I think some people maybe over there, right, and it's just like it's just the general going through Albania looking for his soldiers, right? Like it wasn't even his soldiers because he's like he was too young to be in World War II, I think, because the book takes place in the 1960s, right? And so, he is going through there. It's about like his emotional journey, which is not great. Sure, right? Okay, it's not good. He kind of loses it by the end, right? He's way over. Like he starts out very like, yes, we have the lists. We're very well organized. We we shan't have any problems finding these people. Spoilers. That's all. And then, like he starts kind of like he thinks about it's kind of a he's he starts thinking about the soldiers that he's taking up as his army now, right? He like wants them back, and then he starts kind of thinking about like how the Albanian piece like the war is over surely nobody cares but the Albanians are really mad that he's there right because they're like just go away just leave us alone just stop we don't care blah blah blah and it's kind of about like what happens when the war is over, right? Like we're fighting this second war, looking for our people, right? Like we can't like the struggle of this, and then seeing like what does war really cost? Like every day he's digging up. What the war really cost people, right? And he thinks about all the people that came to see him before he left, and they brought telegrams of stuff they'd heard from their their soldiers like 20 some years ago, right? Like like the weight of that, and like all this stuff, and just how like rugged and tough the weather is in Albania, right? Like the the rain and the snow and like all the craziness, and how much it really like struggles dealing with that is crazy, right? Like, um, And like, the other part is like the subplot is you're. They're also looking for like this colonel, right? Who like they don't. Nobody knows what happened to him during the war, right? He died, but like they don't know where. They don't know what happened, like so. Their other side goal is like searching for this like very famous colonel, right? And it's interesting because like from the Italian side, they heard about like oh the colonel and he was great and he was doing all this stuff, blah blah, but then the general just keeps hearing about what the colonel was doing in Albania, and it was not good, right? It's like it's very war crimey, like you know. So the Italian hero that the Italians are looking for and want desperately to be returned home was a terrible person who was committing atrocities against the Albanian people, right? And so, at some point, he's also like he kind of goes through this arc of like I don't even want to fight. I don't care about this guy. Like we don't want to fight him, right? Like I want to. We want to find the other soldiers, right? Like, and then there's like little excerpts because he like reads their diaries and stuff, and it's just all like he like gets, he's very emotionally affected by his job, and like the realizing what the true cost of war really is, and he is not like about it. It's crazy. Okay. So, oh my gosh. There's big. I don't really want to tell you about the end because it's like very spoilery. But like, it's.

Collin 47:33

I mean, I mean, I

Brandon 47:35

guess I can. Like, it's fine. But like, I know you don't read this. But so spoilers ahead for anybody who wants to read General of the Dead Army.

Collin 47:44

Insert spoiler horn here. Yeah, yeah.

Brandon 47:47

Beep beep. So like the big climax part of the book is he goes to he's like they're done, they're getting ready to go home, and like he's like, I just want to. I'm tired. I just want to relax. I want to do this thing. Blah blah blah. And he's he's still convinced at this point that the Albanians are over it and they don't care. So he's like, oh, there's like a wedding happening, like a big celebration thing. So he goes to it, right? And it's like a like the Albanian hospitality is very like well known and very blah blah blah, but like he's pushing right in his like search for normalcy to get like all these dead bodies out of his head. Like he wants to like experience something normal, but the Albanian there's a group of Albanian people that are like really mad that he's there, and the one there's like this one old lady who like freaks out at him, right? And turns out that it's because they all think that he is friends with this like colonel guy, right? Because they were asking about him because their job is to ask about him because that's what the Italian government wants. Is blah blah, and the people in this village, know what happened to him, but like it's very turns out he was being he was like bringing this lady's young daughter into his company when she was 15 years old.

Speaker 1 49:18

Oh.

Brandon 49:20

And the girl killed herself, right? And then the he went looking for her at the house, and the mom killed him. So this old lady killed the colonel, and she starts going off and blah blah blah. She's screaming at him, and then she leaves, right? And then he's like getting ready to go, and it starts like raining again. And she comes back in, and she's yelling and carrying on. And she has a bag, right? She dug up the kernel. She had buried him under her front. Stairs. No. Yeah, and she walks back into the wedding and dumps this bag of bones at his feet and like spits at him and tells him like, "Go home. Here he is. Get out. Oh

Collin 50:10

my gosh.

Brandon 50:12

Yeah. It's the. It's insane.

Collin 50:17

Holy smokes!

Speaker 1 50:20

Yo.

Collin 50:23

Yo, that-that's intense.

Brandon 50:25

It's very intense, right? And so, basically, it's like you know the hurts of these things don't just go away. People don't just forget. Everything is not fine, even 20 plus years later, right? Like the terrible things that happened are still a scar on people, and they're carrying them around with them, even though they don't show them outwardly, right? It's had this deep effect on like all these different, and you get everywhere they go. There's like little snippets of like stuff that happened, and there's like a couple little subplots that kind of connect back to each other, and you just kind of get a glimpse about like how not great it was going over there during that time, right? And then, yeah, that's kind of that's the big like kind of build up. That part's like nuts. That you're like, oh my god!

Collin 51:10

I mean, that's a real level of intensity to come forward. Jeez,

Brandon 51:17

yeah, yeah. And so, yeah, so they did the whole thing, and like, yeah. So yeah, that's the that's kind of the big part of the book there. And then they like there's some more stuff at the end because he also has a big talk with like a German guy who's doing the same kind of thing, except for the German ones are not as well organized as the Italian ones, and it's going very badly. And they can't find anybody, and the the end is them basically getting like very very very drunk in a hotel and like basically they both come out say like they hate what they're doing and they just want to go home and like it's awful and blah blah blah like yeah so there you go so it's like it's not an uplifting happy read but it is very Good, right? Like it's very good. It's very well written. There's like, especially when he's describing like the scenery, you're just like, dang, what? What is this? Holy cow!

Collin 52:17

So, how are you getting connected with books from these kind of books because I am really curious. Like, are you? Is this just a book talk search kind of thing? No, because this

Brandon 52:30

this book has I've never seen this book talked about on the internet before ever. Like, even the Wikipedia page is like quite small. Like, to get actual information, I had to read that the I had to find the Wikipedia page in Albanian and then translate it to English. Wow. I mean, when I say had to translate it, I pushed the Google Translate button.

Collin 52:49

Oh, you were you were sitting there, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I

Brandon 52:52

was not Gandalfing up in my study, right? Like scrolling through my thing, right? No, I've been basically like I'll just like what I've been doing is like picking a country, right, from the list, just like picking a random number, right? Because it's in Google Sheets, so it's got all the numbers on it. So I just pick one, and then when I find the country, and then I just look up books and authors from the country, and then like try to go from there, right? Some of those from that list I had just filled in with books that I've already read within the past couple years, right? And just put them on there, right? Like I had just like accidentally read a few already, but the rest of them I've just been kind of going through and like picking a country and then like just looking up lists of books and authors from that country, and then trying to find one that is interesting. Check not super, not super scientific, but like,

Collin 53:51

but also like again, you don't know, so you kind of you do have to be. This is the this is the hard part again about like picking up random things to read. Of like, you do at some point just to say I don't know so I just have to pick one and I gotta roll with it and see what happens.

Brandon 54:07

Well, you just have to pick one that you could find find to actually read, right? Because like the availability for some of these, I imagine, is going to be a bit of a problem. Oh sure. So yeah, like I don't. Yeah,

Collin 54:20

I there's just going to be some things you're not going to be able to find. Yeah,

Brandon 54:25

so like that's going to be slightly tricky. But I was able to find this one. I found a used copy of this. This book is. I don't think it's in print anymore, right? Which is a shame. It should be right because people should read this. It was actually on the there's a French newspaper. They made a list of the 100 best books of the 20th century. They published in 1999.

Collin 54:51

Oh,

Brandon 54:51

and this book is on there. Well, there you

Collin 54:55

go. Okay. Well, yeah. I

Brandon 54:56

mean, I didn't know that until after I picked it. But like.

Collin 55:01

Whatever you know.

Brandon 55:02

Yeah, I was again. I didn't know that. I could see where they're coming from, right? I'll just say, I I understand the vision. I get it. I get. So, yeah, it was very good. I finished that this morning, and this is one of those books too, where like, like, uh, when we talk about people on like book talk and stuff, like, it appears that they read books like back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back, right? This is a book you have to read, and then you have to sort of like sit with it for a bit.

Collin 55:37

This right,

Brandon 55:37

like you kind of gotta like, you gotta sit with it for just a bit, right? You don't want to start. You don't want to start something like right away, because I think it ruins it a little bit, right? Like if you were to start reading another book like an hour later, I feel like it it would kind of ruin this book. It would take away from that book a little bit. Like I feel like there's, I feel like a very important part of reading is you got to read the book, and then like I think you have to sit for a bit before you read a new thing, you know, like because sometimes it takes a while to like digest, you know, like you got to you sit with it, and then like you're still thinking about it, and like making new new thoughts about different parts that you read, and like like ruminating on parts that just keep coming up in your head again, right? Like chewing on the meaning of certain bits, right? And I think I think that's very, I think that's an important part of this, right? I don't think I don't think you should. Is my just personal opinion, right? Well, I don't think that, especially with certain books like this, like some books that I read, like the random, like throwaway, like thriller. But yeah, you could whatever, right? It's fine, like. But it looked like this one, like you gotta like sit with it for a bit because it's kind of heavy, right? Like,

Collin 57:05

well, so here, here's the thing: like, they, um, books are meant to make you. Most books are meant to make you feel something. There are books out there for information. There are trash books, but overall, but even the

Brandon 57:20

trash books, like when I say trash book, like you know, let's let's pick on like James Patterson. He can afford to be picked on a little bit, right? Like these books are not like high art, but they're not. They're pretty trash. They're pretty formulaic. They're pretty whatever. But like, is it okay if you read them? Yes.

Collin 57:43

Yeah.

Brandon 57:44

Like it's okay, but it's like you know, like it's like a guilty pleasure book, right? It's like you, it's like it's a book that you can read. It's not gonna, like I've read a bunch of books like that. Like I can't really tell you about them anymore, right? Like, but you know they're fun to read because they're just like zippy, quick little like thrillery things. Like that's kind of like the thing that I like. It's like my like you know when you fall back on something and you're just like oh I can just read this like it's it's trashy but like not that's not doesn't that doesn't necessarily mean bad right no so that no.

Collin 58:22

no. But I, I think that there are aspects of a book that are worth. I don't know. It's like, what to what end are you reading? I mean, even I'm going through a biography right now of of Teddy Roosevelt, and there are certainly stuff that you just kind of bluster through. But then there's like, you know, decisions that he's making or implications that that he did. Where you're like, huh, like that's crazy, or like that still has making those broader connections. I think is is really healthy because he was big. Obviously, we've talked about this on like the Monroe Doctrine and and how that has changed and morphed into what it is now and and how that's perceived and and how politics is different. And that's I I like that aspect of the book. And if I were to just and I'm not even reading this book quickly. Like that's the other part of like I'm. This is a slow book that I am going through very intentionally to try and read it, so that I, I'm not, I'm not just wasting that time. I don't know. Like I think you you do read for different reasons depending on the book, right? Oh, yeah. I think it is good to sit, and when you do have those emotions, like sit with the emotions. That's okay. You're feeling them. They're real. Why are you feeling them? Where are they coming from? How does it relate to this book? Like those things. If you don't process it, then in some aspects, I feel as though. It's not like then the author isn't getting what they wanted out of writing it in the first place. Does that does that make sense?

Brandon 1:00:08

Yeah, yeah, I understand what we're talking about. Yeah, it's kind of hard like to put that into words, but I understand. Like you're not. Yeah, it's almost like you have to sort of sit with it for a bit to get the full kind of effect of the book,

Collin 1:00:24

yes, right, yeah,

Brandon 1:00:26

because you you have to kind of ruminate on it, and then you sit with it, and then you kind of think, especially because you get to the end, and then you think back towards the beginning, and like how it was building, and comparing different parts, and you it's like you know sometimes you're sitting there like, "Oh, I see the see the journey, and you see all that, right? Like, so yeah, yeah, definitely. So I don't know if Time Gladiator will warrant such a rumination, but we'll see. Oh, ye of little faith!

Collin 1:01:00

Oh, who

Brandon 1:01:01

knows, right? Like,

Collin 1:01:05

I am very excited to get the the full the full coverage for that. So that'll be read that, read that, read that one first. Just gotta get out of the freezer. Yep. Wait till it's frozen. Wait till it's fully frozen. Yeah, wait till

Brandon 1:01:21

spawned, right? And then,

Collin 1:01:24

yes, yes, I love it. Oh goodness! Well, good. Well, I'm that's exciting, very exciting.

Brandon 1:01:35

There you go. Oh,

Collin 1:01:36

well, I can wrap us up in a haiku. All right, let's do it. And actually, the haiku is about something that I completely forgot that we did, but I wrote it, and oh no! So there's a story behind it that I'll tell after I read it. So okay, everyone has gone. Only the stars swim with us, summer whispers on.

Speaker 1 1:02:04

Yo,

Collin 1:02:05

the the swimming pool that we go to does does periodic night swims.

Brandon 1:02:12

Oh, that's cool!

Collin 1:02:14

And where they stay, usually they're like we close at like six, but during night swims they close at 930. So it's dark. It's warm. It's summertime, and they just had their last night swim of the summer. And now, kind of like going into August, they start like crunching down on their days that they're open and they're yeah because schools are starting school and stuff like that. So they just had their last one, and so we got to go our last night swim on Saturday, and it's always we've gone to everyone this year, and these are like my favoriteest, favoriteest things because you go there. Obviously, it's sunny. There's tons of people, and then over the course of three hours, like everyone else goes home, and then like it's just us or the kids. They're just in the pool, and it's pitch black. The lights in the pool are on, and they but they don't turn on the deck lights right for like the surrounding stuff. So it's like this weird like atmosphere, yeah, and it's just really peaceful. And then at like 9o'clock, they turn off the music, and so for the next 30 minutes, it's just this like, like peace, like nothing going on. Star, it's so cool. That's cool. Yeah, it's like really great. So that's awesome. Yeah, and I so took my haiku that I wrote, reminding me of that, we actually did this. This it was only like four days ago. Like ah, so it's all right. It's okay. Yeah, I I recommend these. And it was like it was also on Saturday when it was like blazing hot. Oh yeah, it's a good day for that. It was a great day for this, and just being able and like you you lay in the water like little bit of lights and like there was no clouds in the sky and all the stars were coming out. It was great, like chef's kiss, great way to like wrap that up. So night swims, I recommend. That's cool. Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 1 1:04:12

Nice. It

Collin 1:04:13

was good. So anyway, so okay,

Speaker 1 1:04:19

excellent.

Collin 1:04:20

Will we will trudge on and forward, and

Speaker 1 1:04:25

indeed

Collin 1:04:26

we will we will do this again soon.

Brandon 1:04:28

All right,

Collin 1:04:29

wonderful. Okay, love you.

Brandon 1:04:32

Love you too.

Collin 1:04:32

Bye.

Speaker 3 1:04:33

Bye.