Collin is in a contractor quandary. Brandon pulled off amazing lyrics. Dickens becomes almost inscrutable!

Collins contractor quandary
Steven Wilson Jr- I need a Gary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJm3gYqKehA

City Lego Master Builders
Sneaky science test
Only acceptable use of a half day
On the 12th day of Christmas Oh Brother gave to me…

12 nostalgia trips
11 Encyclopedias
10 rabbit holes
9 peals of wisdom
8 feline movies
7 book discussions
6 obscure references
5 top 5 ppl lists
4 Segues
3 brothers bonding
2 haikus
And a hearty ahoy full of glee!!!

Accidental archeology
Collin Haiku

Imagination
Pieces make stories alive
Worlds inside a box

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SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Larry's quest, contractor issues, hydration, Christmas weather, schedule challenges, Lego kits, Star Wars sets, archeological find, historical context, Miss Havisham, mysterious Matthew, birthday celebration, fight scene, psychological impact., Miss Haversham, community esteem, wealth juxtaposition, Pip's struggle, Joe's role, family dynamics, perceived wealth, decaying fortune, common working class, status house, satisfaction, character development, conversation insights, storytelling

SPEAKERS

Brandon, Collin

Speaker 1 00:00

Hey. Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon and Collin on this week's show, Larry's quest for Gary.

00:18

Ahoy. Ahoy. I'm still croaky, being green, you know, like it's, oh my goodness,

00:35

sorry, I'm hydrating. I'm hydrating, hydro, maxing.

Speaker 2 00:38

I think that's important, right? Gotta stay hydrated for the volatile up and down weather. It's 30 it's 25 it's 58 like, what?

Speaker 1 00:51

What is, what was happening? We're looking at 70 degrees on Christmas. I'm like, pretty gross.

Speaker 2 00:59

This making this makes me happy. No, no, listeners, it does not make me happy. I was happy when it was like, overcast, drizzly and 30.

Brandon 01:12

It was true. It was great. They could do that. Didn't do that all at once over Christmas break, because I don't have to worry about indoor recess, right? So, like, Yes, I don't necessarily love it in the middle of the week on a Tuesday, when we have recess duty, but adding over Christmas break, it's wonderful, right? Like, ah, yeah, stay here. Read some Dickens, you know. Like, you do more on that later.

01:37

More on that, later.

01:40

Oh, okay,

Speaker 1 01:44

yes, I could do that all day. It's fantastic. However, then I find that I have, I'm now in this season where there, there can be days where I don't ever leave my house, and this is dangerous.

Brandon 02:04

You mean, great, that's what you meant to say. No, excellent. You're getting it wrong here. I feel like

Speaker 1 02:13

if I were doing things that were like, Oh, I'm like, nourishing my soul, and I'm reading and I'm learning, but it's like, oh, I'm answering phone calls and writing emails. That's fair. That's gross, scheduling.

Tori L. 02:31

Those aren't fun. Those are not my favorite.

Brandon 02:36

No, that's fair. That doesn't sound near as fun as anything else really, like, I don't,

Speaker 1 02:43

yeah, so, but we're almost, I'm almost, we're, it's so weird. It's so weird. Like, I am finally, like, getting some of the schedule kind of, like, kind of put into place. So that's feeling good for like, and I'm talking about, like, Christmas schedule for the team of like, Oh, I'm

Tori L. 03:04

finally have everything where it needs to be yeek

Brandon 03:11

and it's and so I'm like that I'm just getting things off of my plate one at a time. But the other thing that has not been taken off my plate is we have been trying to get a contractor out of our house to do some work.

Tori L. 03:28

Oh no, oh no, now,

Brandon 03:30

oh no. This never ends. Well, no, here. This is what goes wrong in a hurry. Oh, don't

Speaker 1 03:36

hear we are in the very beginning stages of this. What we have done is okay. We have lived in this house now for seven years, which sounds ridiculous for me to put it that way, but that's what happened. I really say that out loud. I know I think about

Collin Funkhouser 03:53

that, and then I'm like, Oh my goodness. So you know, we've painted, we've upkept these things, but there are just some bigger projects that we'd like to have done. And so I thought to myself, self, what you need to do is you need to start calling people that do these kind of projects and tell them, I have money that I would like to give you

04:20

to do this. Can I

Brandon 04:22

offer you in Part exchange for your services, monetary compensation, yeah, and perhaps a cookie or two, you

Tori L. 04:29

know, just saying, like, I would like, Yes, yep.

Speaker 1 04:35

And so we just go. So I was like, surely, surely, this won't be an issue at all.

04:40

And I poof

Speaker 1 04:45

man, step one, getting people to answer their phones.

Tori L. 04:53

This, this is, this is the hardest I'll be

04:55

millennial contractors, right? Yes, so no.

Speaker 1 05:00

So you know what I started to do, Brandon. I resorted to I am texting people saying, Hi, I would like to call you tomorrow. Do you have time between

Brandon 05:13

just get your fishing pole and stick $1 on the end of it and just like, run it down, run it through lows. All right, hey, like, Oh, hey, I see you. Like, dollars, there's, I have more, if you can in my van. Yeah, I don't know. I'll meet you there. Okay, you can follow me. You have to get the van. It's fine. Dogs, okay, don't worry. Yeah, pet bus guys. Don't, don't freak out, right? It's not for napping, anything.

Tori L. 05:45

Don't worry. I, I

Speaker 1 05:48

have you seen those? Have you seen these jokes of, like, on tick tock or Instagram? Okay, sorry, but, like, um, where it's like, Oh, it'll be a woman, and she's, like, looking for a new man. And it cuts to her, like, in lows, like, acting like, I don't know what I'm going to do, oh yes, like, I'm about ready to do this by the business and contractor counters, just like me, because I don't know.

Brandon 06:16

Like, Oh man, this is you're going to be somebody's like, Skyrim side quest, right? You're gonna be like, Hey, man looking for some contracts, like you in the corner like a hood, right

Speaker 1 06:30

from their perspective, their DM just said, walk into a bar to refresh after your latest thing, looking for some coin, because you've spent it all on on blah, blah, blah, you a man sidles up to you, and that's me. That's me, right? It's me going, Hey, do you want to build a deck? Right? Like, first you'll have to collect the wood from the far off forest of whatever. Yes, see, like,

Brandon 07:04

feel like, man, if you put that in your text, they'll just be flocking Right.

Tori L. 07:09

Like, I guess, I guess, I mean, I calling people

Brandon 07:16

experience points and this much gold, it's fine, yeah,

Speaker 1 07:21

oh, looks like you're headed over that way anyway. Well, might as well pick, you know, like, whatever. I'm just I'm so, so lost and frustrated too. So I finally have a guy. Oh, and the other thing too is it's like, not what I am learning is that what used to be called a general contractor. They're now like niched contractors. And so what this

Speaker 2 07:48

what this means is find like a deck contractor, or Yes, yes, because

Speaker 1 07:53

everybody who I've talked to, they're like, well, when everyone, like the three people who have actually picked up the phone, after all the stuff that I've done, emails, contact forms on websites, text messages, phone calls, like I'm sending carrier pigeons out to people at this point, like people who contact me back. I'm like, Okay, here's the list of everything that I need done. And they're like, that's great. I don't do this, I don't do that. I don't do this thing either. And before you ask, I don't know anybody who does.

Collin Funkhouser 08:25

And you're like, what? Like this guy? He said, very clearly. He said, I don't do carpet, concrete or roofs. And was like, Cool, do you have a carpet? Guy? Because I do need carpet. He's like, No, everybody I know got out of it. It hurts your knees. Like, oh, so just like, nobody does carpet. We're just all stuck with the carpet that we have in our houses. Like, what do I do?

08:52

Yeah, I guess nobody. That's a weird

Collin Funkhouser 08:58

and so what? What he's basically saying is, if you want carpet or flooring, you have to go to, like the big box carpet flooring stores, because they're the only ones who are willing to put up with that in their life. And so now I'm like,

Speaker 1 09:20

Fine, I'll just go and deal with the big box carpet stores, and I guess I'll just be fine. So it's coming over tomorrow to look and tell me all the things that he won't do and that it'll take six months before you can even show up, and that'll be five times more costly than he. We think it's going to be like this is, I'm just prepared for him to say, Oh yeah, you, I know you said this on the phone, but I don't actually do that either. Now that I see this, I don't do that thing.

Brandon 09:59

Sure as. King, because that's just pretty right, like this, all right. So here is a bizarre segue for you, right? This week, I have discovered a musical artist by the name of Stephen Wilson Jr, right? He's very like singer songwriter, country music type of dude, which is weird that I like this person, but oh,

Tori L. 10:28

I, I too, have

Speaker 1 10:31

discovered him for his What did he perform? It was

Brandon 10:37

stand by me. Yeah, the stand by me. So, yeah, that guy, the stand by me. Guy, yes, that song rips, right. Oh, my goodness, yeah. Okay, so this week, right. Look at that, both of us on a Stephen Wilson Junior journey, right. But have you heard this song called Gary?

Tori L. 10:54

Gary, right? Yes, right.

Brandon 10:56

Collin, you need a Gary. I need a Gary. Need right now. Okay, like that, like I was listening to you speak, and I was, I was thinking about that dude's lyrics to that song, and I was like, Oh, my God, Collin, Collin, you needed Gary so bad.

Brandon 11:16

Ain't a lot of boys named Gary these days born with a cigarette glued to their face, fix about anything a hammer can handle, saving all their money because of Gary. Don't gamble. Collin, Gary, you need a Gary

Speaker 1 11:30

maybe, like a real man, maybe, maybe,

Brandon 11:34

okay, I saw that thing of him talking about it, and he was like, he was like, Yeah. He was like, there is a whole lot of problems in our world, and computers and AI can't solve them, but Gary can

Speaker 1 11:49

maybe, maybe this would be, this is my new tactic. I will also just go around asking, Are you, is your name, Gary? That's my step one. But step two, flashback to me. I'm not inside the lows at the counter. I'm outside in my car with the windows rolled down, playing this song at a relatively high volume, yeah.

Brandon 12:11

And if somebody approaches you right, like, Haha, they go still, given the quest. But like, now you have a bit of different tactic, right. There you go. That's what I'm Yes, it's like moths to a flame Exactly, exactly. This is what's necessary. So yes,

Speaker 1 12:35

this has been just like a like and, and we were like, Okay, well, we've got, like, like we were even anyway, like it was, like, I can do so many things quickly, like I can get the money, like today, but I have nobody to give it to. And that's like the really frustrating problem, like, like, I has need. I has money I had. Could you? Ha, it's reminding me a lot of when Megan and I tried to buy a house when we were in Dallas. Oh yes, our, our, our realtor at the time had us writing what they called cry letter. Have you heard of these things?

Brandon 13:21

Only in the context with which I seem to recall you talking about, okay, yeah, that's the only I vaguely remember this story from when you were doing that right, like that is a so we were horribly depressing thing to do, some might say, Dickensian nature by the way,

Speaker 1 13:42

you're about to spend more money than you have access to, or will have access to in your entire life, and go into like serious debt locking your way self for 30 years, and you need to write a letter asking for the privilege to do so, and all the things you're going to do with the home and how you're going To use the front bedroom as your kids nursery and the memories and all this stuff and why? You're like, oh my goodness, and I'm about ready to do

Brandon 14:10

that. Has more money than you. Collin, they don't need to write

Speaker 2 14:13

a letter right now. They just took a suitcase full and was like, Here, here's my cash, right?

Brandon 14:20

They was dropping on the floor. How about this? Like, that'll do,

Tori L. 14:25

like, a weird, like, mob movie.

Brandon 14:32

No, no. Better yet, snap your fingers. Have somebody else drop the double bag. Oh, that's actually a better movie. Like, how about now? Who's crying now? Huh? What's up?

14:43

Okay, well, maybe, maybe we'll tone

Brandon 14:44

that down a little. Okay, okay, maybe, okay, that was a little tassel too hard.

Tori L. 14:49

That's good point. We're not, I mean, yes, but except for No, so this has been my quest recently. Is. Then trying to find out how to get this to work.

Brandon 15:06

I believe Collin this is actually we're gonna retitle this Larry's quest for Gary. That's what we're gonna call

15:16

this. Okay, show title.

15:22

Okay. Well,

Brandon 15:24

that's not even putting a bullet points going straight to the title slot, rebrand,

Tori L. 15:31

pretty franchise. Oh my goodness. But when I'm not, when I'm not, when I haven't been doing hunting for Gary. This actually just happened today. We got a call from the library, oh no, oh no, oh no. And they said, Hey, we just had a gentleman come in donated eight Lego kits and boxes. He wants

16:12

to donate them to the kids section.

16:14

You just said yes before she even finished speaking today.

Speaker 1 16:17

And I'm like, Yes, listening, listening. So, I mean, I'm a little disappointed, because it's not heavy furniture further. Heavy furniture. We had

16:24

an 18 foot tall bookcase. We were wondering if you

Speaker 1 16:28

Oh, well, we'll be over. Like, yeah. So again, I was a little like, oh, okay, sad. But Lego, keep going. They said, Guys eight, there's, there's huge boxes, these massive pieces and big things. And we asked him, though, does he know if they have all of the pieces? And he said, No, he doesn't. He doesn't know. He actually took them apart because they were up on display in his office, and he took them apart and put them in the boxes. He doesn't know if

Tori L. 17:01

all the pieces are there. And the library went, huh, well, we want to know if these have all the pieces. How are we going to do that? So they called, oh no us. And they said,

Speaker 1 17:19

would your kids be interested in building these massive LEGO sets and documenting what pieces are missing? And one of

Brandon 17:28

them, Most assuredly would do that like he's already he's like, Yes.

Speaker 1 17:36

He was like, yes, but before anything could transpire. It was like we were already, like, on our way there

Brandon 17:47

to pick these up, still on the phone, getting in the car, like

17:52

we're just levitating there.

Tori L. 17:54

And it turns out all eight sets are Star Wars. Oh, even better. And this. And then they said they actually want,

Speaker 1 18:08

like, for some of the pieces, some of the, like, the there's some big pieces. Like, one of these is, like, this big, like, four foot monstrosity.

Brandon 18:17

They want to, once it's built, they want to leave it on display there as part of their Star Wars section. They have a big section for Star Wars books. They want to leave it over there and the star destroyer one, yes, oh, there we go. Yes, it came in a massive tote. Well, yeah, that thing is enormous. I've seen pictures.

Collin Funkhouser 18:42

So it was like, we get over there and one of my children is just beaming, just absolutely like beside themselves.

Speaker 1 18:53

And so we have a system now where Noah's already built one and a half of these naturally, of course, of course. And he's just like, 700 pieces. It's done whatever. But he is building. But Lillian, because, you know, she's like finding pieces and have them put together. She is the the paperwork.

Speaker 2 19:23

And administrative. So what we the system, also tracks, really excited on so also tracks is we

Collin Funkhouser 19:29

have the Lego manual to build as we can't find pieces. She is circling the piece in the instruction manual so that we know this piece is missing and where,

Speaker 1 19:46

and so basically, no build, build build. He'll go Lily and she runs over with her red pen.

Brandon 19:54

This one, she circled it. Nice. Teamwork. You know, yes, yeah, it is. It is fantastic, everyone. It's been really fun and so, but now we're in this, like,

Tori L. 20:09

okay, like,

Speaker 1 20:10

this is an extended build we're entering into, obviously, because we don't want to sit on this for like, a year, like, we've got to push through. So it's like, buckle down and have like, of Legos, yeah. Like, where's our six foot table? Where are we going to put this in the room? How are we going to set this where the boxes, where they where do they go once they're built, kind of stuff? And that let the library decide. And everything we've we've set a big, long term project on our two kids, and like you, have been deemed the the Lego master builders for the library go

Brandon 20:44

forth, right? Yeah, for the city, the Lego master builders for the city, that's true. That should plaque. Like, dude, yeah, the city. Feel like that's plaque worthy, right? Like, I think that's Blackboard. Yes.

21:03

They went, huh, who are we gonna get to build these? They made one call,

Brandon 21:11

no. What happened was they were all sitting around, and they're like, man, what are we gonna do? And there was one of the people was like, No, I know. I know what must be done, and we've got this. They flipped through the Rolodex. I like to imagine the library still has a Rolodex. I know that's probably not

Tori L. 21:29

true, but they were like, bam, got it. This is the one.

21:35

Absolutely, the chosen, chosen.

21:42

You Yes.

Brandon 21:44

So this is our new our new side quest as a family. Nice is everything. It's beautiful. I prove this message,

Tori L. 21:52

I'm married. Yes, it's gonna be good. So that's been, that's been my week, still suffering, still no contractor, but lots of Lego, Lego.

Speaker 2 22:05

That's really, that's good, no, that's

Brandon 22:19

important to me. I just been like, trying to power through this last week, because our last day of school was Friday.

Tori L. 22:25

So I was like, we had

Brandon 22:29

to squeeze in the science test today. So it's like, Hey guys, guess what? I told him last week. Like, oh, okay, right. Like, last week, I was like,

Tori L. 22:37

hey, next Wednesday.

Brandon 22:41

Remember, and so still a handful of like, Huh, what's

22:44

today? What's going on? What are you doing? Anyway?

Brandon 22:49

So I but we snuck in that today, so

Tori L. 22:57

that was handy. Had to do that. Then they're practicing for the Christmas program, which is tomorrow. So like,

Brandon 23:07

they're stealing off my afternoon class time to go practice in the performing arts center with the all the children's so I had to wrap up social studies time last week. Like, okay, we're gonna do this introductory thing, and then we're gonna stop. Okay, bye, none at all next week. So real quick. So yeah, there you go. So actually, and then Friday's a half day. So that's at least Nice. Do we have half day there? That is the only acceptable use of half day is the day before Christmas break, and potentially the last day of school. All other days should not be half days. Like, no, that's the only ones you need. But like, the full day on the day before Christmas Yeah, that's a no. That's rough, you know, like, what on earth are you gonna do on that day? Like, oh, dear.

Speaker 1 24:09

Well, hopefully, hopefully, the the years wrapping up, well, at

Brandon 24:14

least, oh yeah, that's not bad. It's just it was trying to, like, get out, get everything done. Because I, like

Tori L. 24:21

you, kind of have to finish other than the quiz. Obviously, like

Brandon 24:28

the all other assignments kind of have to be done last week so that you can be like, Okay, this week if you didn't get done with those, if you were gone, you got to do them now.

Tori L. 24:38

You know, you got this week to finish before you because you know, so as always, there's been a little

Brandon 24:51

stressful trying to wrap up things, but not too bad. So I had to go back for the Christmas program tomorrow

Tori L. 24:57

night, and then I. Be pretty much it, boom, done nice, yeah, and then I have no idea what's happening, so I'm just, like hanging out, just here and there. True, I'm focused on, like,

Brandon 25:17

tomorrow, really. Like, my whole focus for everything has been, like, all of tomorrow, so like, even, like, what's happening Friday? I'm like, I don't know. I might just don't, don't talk about things too far out there, right? Yeah, I was too far in advance, three days away. Nah, too much, impossible. Not worried about that right. Now, too far to worry about.

Tori L. 25:39

We right?

Brandon 25:41

I I know that feeling you want me to play, yeah, for the weekend. It's It's Wednesday, yeah, there's no way I can do that. I can't think that far in advance.

Tori L. 25:52

I have tomorrow to think about and survive. More importantly, exactly. So, yeah, pretty uneventful here, just like wrapping up and like, Christmas present pun, God, so I got,

Tori L. 26:22

yeah, that's pretty much it nothing too exciting, really, didn't do a whole lot, except for Collin, can I interest you in a fairly competent, mostly complete version of

Brandon 26:39

the O brothers 12 Days of Christmas. Oh, wow, yes, yes. Oh, my goodness, absolutely. Look at that. Look at that. Oh, I remembered. It is done right now. That doesn't we could tweak it eventually. You know what I have? I have for you a completed test. Look at this set down many, many episodes ago, but because we are professional and have continuity, right? Oh, absolutely, as is our brand. Remember that we learned last time and what? As we learned last time was a part of our brand? Voice, yes, my brand. Voice, right? Look at that, whatever. So I have have for you a official completed. Oh, brother, 12 Days of Christmas in time for Christmas. Even, wow, right. Look at that. Deadlines bang for you to sign off upon, right? If you would, okay, right? So I'm not, I'm

Tori L. 27:40

not going to go through the whole

Brandon 27:45

thing one at a time, if you will, permit me to start at day 12. You're not

27:50

going to do the whole arrangement.

Brandon 27:52

No, no, no, I'm not. That's not the important part here. I would just need the final 12 All right, so, so for your for your signature, right on to rubber stamp the official, Oh, brother, 12 Days of Christmas,

Tori L. 28:13

if you please. Okay, let me get some water here. Oh, not actually gonna sing. Don't worry. I Okay, I

Brandon 28:24

gotta remember how I cram some of these syllables into these lines here. But it's fine. It's fine. It's fine.

Tori L. 28:30

So Collin and listeners, I give you the official version right on the 12th day of Christmas, oh brother gave to me 12 nostalgia trips, 11 encyclopedias, 10 rabbit holes, nine pearls of Wisdom, eight feline movies, seven book discussions, six

Brandon 29:01

obscure references. References, reference

29:05

five top five lists,

Brandon 29:10

four segues, Three brothers bonding, two haikus and a hearty ahoy full of Glee.

29:20

Absolutely, absolutely

Brandon 29:28

all the signs off. All right, there guys stamped and then stamped again.

Tori L. 29:35

Absolutely, I love every second of that exactly what it should be. There we go.

29:46

Oh, my goodness, that's fantastic. I love that. That's

Brandon 29:49

really, really well done. That's fantastic. Combing through the archives, thinking about what really belongs here, after like. I got a good distillation here of that, right?

Speaker 1 30:04

No, well, it's, you know, we have so much that we

Brandon 30:10

kind of wide ranging. That's true thing. That's true.

Tori L. 30:15

So that's, I love, that of

Speaker 1 30:19

course, of course you had to get, yeah, you did, no, yeah. It hit everything in there,

Brandon 30:25

all the really important things. We got the haikus, the ahoy and the segways. I mean, everyone else, well, in the top five lists, the top five lists in the movies. And then we did stick a I figured rabbit holes was a bit of a catch all for many things. So, yes,

Speaker 1 30:42

I think like that between the rabbit holes and the segways that just covers, that's the that's the etc,

Brandon 30:50

that is, yeah, it is a breath, right? So, like it is a,

Tori L. 30:58

oh, my goodness. I

Brandon 31:03

oh, let's picture that for the show notes, so you can put that in there.

Speaker 1 31:06

Yeah, I know. I do need that for the show notes.

Brandon 31:10

Type it all out again. Yeah, I just wrote this in my little

Tori L. 31:13

notebook thing, so I'll do that here. Hopefully that works.

Brandon 31:21

Oh, the other one, other random thing that I just remembered happened because I opened my camera roll to send this to you. We did find when we were digging our rocks and stuff last week. Oh yeah, we did find one like, super

Tori L. 31:38

unexpected, like they, right? We did a bit of archeology on accident, right?

Brandon 31:48

Oh, yes, yes, a bit of accidental archeology was accomplished because somebody dug up a

Tori L. 32:00

piece of a glass bottle, right? So they dug up this glass it was like the bottom of the glass bottle, right? But the patent

Brandon 32:14

date on the bottom says 1897 Oh.

Tori L. 32:20

It okay. Okay, so there we go. And so

Brandon 32:30

after doing some internet sleuthery, right, we just we determined that this most likely comes from an old Haner whiskey bottle,

Tori L. 32:47

yes, which

Brandon 32:49

was around the turn of the century and like, went out of business

Tori L. 32:54

during Prohibition. So, wow,

Brandon 32:58

yeah, now I think they're still doing things now, like they've come back a bit, right? But like, they stopped production during Prohibition, so they were around in the 1800s like in the 1860s I think. And then they had a whole bunch of they're from Ohio, I believe, is what I read. And they have, like, they had a whole bunch of distributors, including St Louis and Kansas City.

Tori L. 33:26

So, you know, yeah, but

Brandon 33:32

they pretty much stopped production in like, 1920 so,

Speaker 1 33:39

how any, I mean, any idea, like how, like the where that came from, I can,

33:49

well, the only, so I don't really know

Tori L. 33:52

we were digging. This is the same

Brandon 33:56

area, or near the same area, where I found a couple years ago. Not I found, but some of the kids found a like, really random bit of, like, super rusty metal. I don't know what it is, because it's like so deteriorated that I can't really figure out what it could possibly be. But it does appear to be like a super old, like, super oxidized bit

Tori L. 34:19

of like, iron, so I don't know it is near the train tracks, you know, so there's that bit, and I don't so I don't know what would have been Over there during

Brandon 34:41

these times in that town. But like, it is by the train tracks, and it is near the old like, it there's, like, I don't know if it was just a school, like an old school, like burn pile thing, where they just, like, throw stuff, right? Like, a long time ago, not anymore. But like, this is. Is like this old overgrown area where they just used to, like, dump things and burn them. So it was near that and near the railroad tracks. So I don't really know what was on this land, yeah, previous to the playground that is currently there. But yeah, there is a random super old bottle.

Tori L. 35:26

Yes, I could ask Susan's mom,

Brandon 35:28

she would have some idea, maybe, like, what was over there.

35:32

But if you were gonna ask her if she dropped it, no,

Brandon 35:37

she dropped it. No, I didn't. I I may ask them when I see them this weekend, so I'll report back if I discover any interesting local history about the area in which this was discovered. But I just, you know, could just be old, you know, drops old trash. I don't know, some point, but it's pretty sweet. She was like, Can I take this home? Like, yeah, I'm fine. I'm putting a bag freeze, you know, like, drop it or anything. It wasn't, like, sharp everything, but, like, sure, but yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I don't care.

Brandon 36:20

We did do that. We did accidentally find some archeological town evidence there. Sounds kind of cool. That is cool. I like that a lot. Hopefully they were enthralled and enjoyed it. Yeah, a lot of them were like, what? Once we cleaned it off and saw the date? They were like, hold on, no, I mean,

Tori L. 36:43

there's pretty

36:49

cool. So cool, yeah,

Brandon 36:53

yeah, that was the other thing I was the other exciting thing I did this week, because I found not, I found we found some you were leading the historical Yeah, I was there, yes, yes, I was the dig organizer, Archeological Survey, right? Like writing, I'd want to take credit. I did not dig it out, okay? I was just nearby.

Speaker 1 37:14

Oh, you sound like somebody who's at a scientific meeting saying his hands never touched it, yeah?

Brandon 37:19

I mean, I didn't touch it, so it's fine. I'm all on that. I like they found it, they brought inside, they washed it off. I just helped them research what it was.

Brandon 37:39

Sorry I had turned the fan on. It's getting stuffy in here. Oh, all right. Speaking of stuffy,

Tori L. 37:46

Collin boy, howdy, yeah, let's I,

Brandon 37:55

yes. I feel I was trying to explain just using my feelings that I have currently, right? And it's like, I feel like sometimes, like, there'll be a chapter that happens where I'm like, Yeah, I kind of understand what's happening, yeah. And then the very next chapter, I'm like, What on earth was that,

Tori L. 38:16

right? And I understand this is how PIP feels, and as he is our narrator, it somewhat makes sense that that would be going on. But also, what in the heck did I just it? It?

Speaker 1 38:34

Also, others could explain it as given that this, these were released in weekly fashion that Mr. Dickens forgot what was published previously and was just pulling threads of his vague memory of where he was wanting this to go.

Brandon 38:51

Like, yeah. Like, I mean, again, we're still in the first, you know, quarter of the book here. So, like, maybe some more of these threads will continue to wrap around and show up again later. You know

Tori L. 39:08

that's yeah, within the realm of possibility. But

Brandon 39:12

the two chapter, what did we read? Like, 1010, and 11? I was like, What

39:19

the heck? I was so lost

39:22

on many of these things. And I was

Brandon 39:25

mostly lost on 1111. Was a chapter this week. 10 was weird. But 11, I was like, What on earth is going on? How? Yes, like, what it it's so and, like you said, like, I know we'll get to this. But like, yeah, like, I'm just so, like, I'm just, I'm just gonna read this. I'm just reading and trusting and reading and trusting because I don't know what else is gonna happen. Yeah, right? Like, you're literally no idea

Tori L. 39:53

what, because this is, like, it does feel rather episodic, right?

Brandon 39:59

Because. Like, that's just how we're viewing we're getting to view pips life, right? Because even in one, in one of these chapters, we get some a bit more time jump, right? Yes, He literally says, I'm skipping over eight months, yeah, because basically the same thing happened every time. But it was weird every time. So I'll just give you the general gist of what was going on, like that, you know, it makes sense, but,

Tori L. 40:23

like, yeah, it was real. What? What I don't

Brandon 40:31

know anyway. So 1010, at least, makes sense, and I could follow the thread, and I understood what was going on, kind

Tori L. 40:37

of, right, like, piece together chapter 10. Yes, made sense to me, right? So we're out, we're out. Well, we're not out.

Brandon 40:49

We're except for we get this other random person that did I miss somewhere, this like bitty person? Was she before? Did we talk about her before she was mentioned in like, extreme passing as just merely being present? So much so that whenever he started talking about bitty I was like, Ooh, I have no yeah. But like, yeah, yeah. It's kind of hard. There's like 800 characters in this book, but like, yeah, so we have this bitty person who is apparently Mr. Wopsles great aunt. Is that true? Is that? Yes, yeah. So she's like, going to help educate kind of but it is comically unuseful, the way that she goes about this. And so we just, it's like, very bizarre description of,

Speaker 1 41:46

well, bitty. Bitty is not the great aunt. She's like, Pip's

41:51

age, I

Brandon 41:52

think, okay, but she lives there, or works with her, works with her at the

Speaker 1 41:57

store, okay. But Mr. Wopsles, great aunt who I don't Does he ever give a name?

Tori L. 42:03

No, no. So yes, that is

Speaker 1 42:07

so yes, Biddy is Pip's age, and she working the store and helps around with this night school or whatever is going on here.

Brandon 42:16

Yeah, we got through Miss Biddy and the mysterious Publix night school debacle that was not

Tori L. 42:24

working well, right? Yeah, and we had to go from the

Brandon 42:29

public house, right? This is one of his errands he must run sometimes. But he finds Joe in the company of a very suspicious looking man, perhaps he's He is described as secret looking.

Tori L. 42:44

He was all like, got a big hat on. He's got cut.

Brandon 42:48

Maybe he's looking for someone to build a deck. He's looking pretty suspicious over in the corner, I don't know,

Tori L. 42:54

like, what? Oh, are you still there?

Brandon 43:02

Oh, I'm here. I'm here. Okay, all right, now I'm paranoid that if you don't say anything, I'm like, oh, gosh, he's gone. I'm getting freaked out here. So we get this secret looking man whom I had never seen before. His head was all on one side, and one of his eyes was half shut up, as if he were taking aim at something with an invisible gun, right? So he's very secretive and very kind of just not great looking, right? He, he, like, uses this metaphor of, like, taking aim at me several times through this which makes the whole encounter, like, very disconcerting, you know.

Tori L. 43:43

And you know, it's all weird. He's kind of like,

Brandon 43:49

asking some weird questions. And then, you know, the strange man, after glancing at Joe, Joe and seeing that his attention was otherwise engaged, nodded to me again when I had taken my seat then rubbed his leg in a very odd way, as it struck me,

Tori L. 44:06

yeah, right. Like, what? Yeah, this,

Brandon 44:14

yeah, this is a bit suspicious, right? And then so it keeps going on, like this. It's real weird. He asked him what he's drinking. And he buys their drinks, you know, and then he he's asking all these, like, bizarre questions. Like, it's like, about, like, the marshes and like, the solitary nature of the country. And like, yeah, he keeps looking at PIP right, still cocking his eyes if he were expressly taking aim at me with his invisible gun, right? You know, and he's like, what he what does he? What do you call this boy? Who's this? Joe's just like, oh yeah, we just call him Pip. But he's like, Is that his name? He's like, No, that his surname? No, no. We call him like, I. Right? Is he your son? Not as such, right? Right? So he's not his nephew, right? He's nevi, is what he calls him. And you know? And then Mr. Wopsle butts in and has to express, you know, how? You know? Mr. Wopsle struck in upon that as one who knew all about relationships, having professional occasion to bear in mind what female relations a man might not marry, right? And so he goes on because he also loves to just take shots of PIP all the time, because he's just like a horrible human, but, right? But, you know, the stranger is listening and blah, blah. And then here I found it. So he was, you know, the last look again, right? It was not a verbal remark, but a proceeding in dumb show that was pointly addressed to me. He stirred his rum and water pointedly at me, oh, and he tasted his rum and water pointedly at me, and he stirred it and tasted it, not with a spoon that was brought to him, no, but with

46:09

fire, A

Brandon 46:13

what now? Yep, he did this so that nobody saw the file but me. And when he had done it, he wiped it off and put it in his pocket, right? I knew it to be Joe's file. I knew that he knew my convict the moment I saw the instrument. This was awkwardly also referring to him still as his convict, right? This is at least a year ago, right?

Speaker 1 46:38

Like this was so, like, out of left field, so, like, creepy as well. Like, I don't like, I like, I just this. I was not expecting this scene in this chapter, no at all. Like, creepy man staring down by her, over gun, like, intently focused, stirring his whiskey and water, whatever it was, with a file. Like, yes,

Brandon 47:04

but that's not even the weirdest part, right? Like, I don't so here's the part that I like. I don't really know how to interpret this, necessarily, but he gives him a shilling. He gives it to pit. Specifically. He says, This is for you. Oh, yes, right? He gives him a shilling. But he like, wraps it up in something. He like, makes a talk. He's like, I'm gonna give you a shilling, right? And he's like, Oh, wow, that's, you know, he's like, it's your own, it's yours only, which, you know, again, this time, a lot of money, right? Apparently, in the mysterious British currency,

Tori L. 47:44

and then he wraps it in some paper and gives it to him. Yeah, right. And so we get home, right?

Brandon 47:52

They're telling Mrs. Joel about this. She's very concerned about this whole thing. He's like, and then I took it out of the paper, and it proved to be good. But what is this said? Mrs. Joe, throwing down the Shilling and catching up the paper two one pound notes.

48:09

Yeah, Kelly gave him a

Brandon 48:13

shilling, but he wrapped the shilling in

Tori L. 48:17

two pounds before he gave it to him, what, what? And so now I'm like, Well, is this a is

Speaker 1 48:31

this, is this a payback? Is this, is this going to be a bribe? Like, what is this about?

Brandon 48:36

Because I'm, I'm I'm confused. Yeah, I didn't know if it was like a thank you, yes, right, right? And it's really funny, because, yeah, I had to look stuff again. But a one pound is 20 shilling, right? So he gave him a shilling wrapped in 40 shilling,

Tori L. 48:57

right? Which?

49:02

What? That's different?

Tori L. 49:05

Yeah, so that, and I'm

Brandon 49:09

wondering if this is like a,

Tori L. 49:13

yeah, like, like a thank you type of situation, right? Like, I don't know how to do that exactly like what that is, but it's kind of weird, right? Yeah, it's very weird.

Brandon 49:33

So, yeah, it's just very odd. And I don't know what to make about that. Is it, is it a threat, or is it a thank you? That's the ambiguity that we have to live with. Clearly, Pip thinks of this is a threat? Yes, yeah, very firmly in in that Yeah. Like, he's like. Hot, sleeping. He's like, freaking out, and he doesn't really know what to do with this. He's like, very upset, right? Like, so, so that is, that is this weird chapter I forgot to look up. If I can discover the what that amount of money would be worth today. But I can't seem to be my Google will apparently not function properly right now, so we'll work on that later. But I don't know, like this. This was, like you said, it's very out of the left field,

Tori L. 50:36

so I don't know what it was.

Speaker 1 50:40

Just, it seemed like such a again, you get these. The way the storytelling is going is, like, there's kind of this, I don't know, like, this is what we thought the main story thread would be from the beginning of the book, right? And then we got to this, like, oh, the non sequitur of Miss Havisham. But now that's becoming the dominant storyline, and this is kind of lurking menacingly in the background.

Tori L. 51:09

Yeah, very much. So,

Brandon 51:12

right? Like, yeah. So it's like a two, like a twisting story web

Tori L. 51:18

around here, like, about all this kind of crazy Ness that is just very weird.

Brandon 51:26

It's just like a little side note, like, it's like, Oh, don't forget. It's kind of almost like,

Tori L. 51:32

I feel like it's gonna come it has to come up again, right? And I feel like it is dropped here as like, hey,

Brandon 51:45

don't forget about this, right? Like, it's gonna be important later. Yes, you know, like,

Tori L. 51:56

it'll be, it'll be a big deal. Like, don't worry. So it's,

Brandon 52:02

it feels to me like it's a, oh, hey, it's coming back, right? So that's kind of what it feels like to me. It's like, Oh, it'll just, it's coming back later. Don't worry, right? So, which is weird, I did discover just right now, from the some

Tori L. 52:24

sort of archive page that

Brandon 52:30

this would, approximately in 1850 have been equal to 10 days wages.

Tori L. 52:35

Oh, yeah. So roughly in,

Brandon 52:40

apparently in 20 $17 is 160

Tori L. 52:45

pounds, which,

Brandon 52:51

if we convert that to

Tori L. 52:53

American dollars, right?

Brandon 52:59

What did I say? 100 and what? 6060? Yeah, that is approximately 213 US dollars. Okay, give or take, so if we adjust for a small bit of inflation from a couple years ago, it's roughly $220 maybe we'll say rough estimate, two and 15 $20 this dude just threw it. Appreciate. Shilling, or whatever was, right?

Tori L. 53:24

Yeah. So that's a

Brandon 53:30

jarring right, like, so that's just, like, in the book, it's, it's like, it's so much money that Joe takes it and runs back to the bar to try to return it to the guy thinking that he gave it on accident, yes, right? So it's not like, it's not like $2 right? It's not like two modern pounds, right? It's like a lot of money in 1850 is a lot of purging power. So, so there you go. That is, that's a very strange, just little side of it. And then, then, you know what? Oh, it's back to the weirdness with Miss Havisham, right?

Speaker 3 54:10

Like, I this, this entire chapter, just I, I think

Speaker 1 54:17

I've described many book chapters before as beaver dreams. This one is

Brandon 54:24

one of the previous chapters in this book.

Speaker 1 54:27

Was just three chapters ago, the previous misavorship Chapter, because now we're

Tori L. 54:33

back and the thread on this one was real like it was, it was tucked way deep down in there, yeah, and I was thrown off immediately because, like, he's there, and there's other people there, right? So immediately

Brandon 54:59

I was. Throw it off because there hasn't been people there before. Like, he's talking to people in the waiting room waiting to go see her, and like, all of a sudden, he's like, there were three ladies in the room and one gentleman. Because he just, he just goes from he's talking about the window, or he's like, looking out the window at the garden, and then all of a sudden, he realizes there's other people in the room, just like staring at him, right? I divined that my coming had stopped the conversation in the room, and that it's other occupants were looking at me. I could see nothing of the room except the shining of the fire in the window glass, but I stiffened in all my joints with the consciousness that I was under close inspection, right? So I mean, again, I feel like one thing this book does well is it makes me feel pips emotion, especially when it comes to how confused he is about a lot of things, right? Like, yes, lots and lots of confusion. Because he's like, there's people in the room. And I was like, wow, there's people. I wasn't expecting people in Miss havisham's house based on the previous experience there. There shouldn't be nobody else in the house.

Tori L. 56:11

But anyway, yeah, real weird. So we get, we talk about, we have a Sarah pocket and a cousin, Raymond and a Camilla,

Brandon 56:26

and then a fourth person who doesn't talk very much, maybe that we we later find

Tori L. 56:31

out, is the Mr. Camilla. Oh, yeah, and um, so yeah, all the weirdness here.

Brandon 56:42

And so he just, he's sitting there, and he's kind of there talking, and he's like, what's going on? Blah, blah, and then Estella comes to get him right? And he's, they're very confused and off. They're like, Who is this kid and why is he here? And then as I was like, come on, we're going to see Miss havership. And they're like, What are you Where are

Tori L. 57:01

you going, right. We're off. We're off, right?

Brandon 57:10

We have this more more of this. Like, she's interrogating Stella, I should say, is interrogating PIP about whether or not he thinks she's pretty which, of course, he does. Am I insulting? Not so much as you were last time, right? Yeah. Anyway, so he's

Speaker 1 57:31

got a big crush on her here, yes, well, and then we get a little bit of foreshadowing, because he said, because she ends up, she's like, why don't you cry? And he's like, I'll never cry for you. I That's cry. He says, I'll never cry for you again. I said, I which was, I suppose, as false a declaration as ever was made for I was inwardly crying for her then, and I know what I know of the pain she'd cost

Tori L. 57:57

me afterwards. Yes, so clearly, clearly not done with a Stella either.

Brandon 58:05

We have some. The last chapter was like, Oh, hey, don't forget about this. Maybe I'll come back later. And now it's like, oh, foreshadowing. Keep you in your seats for next time. And then there's a

Speaker 1 58:19

lot of foreshadowing in this chapter also, too, yeah? Because then we cut to a scene where he meets a weird man

Brandon 58:28

on his like, ears, yeah? He's like, That's right after that. He's like, trying to get down the stairs. But it's dark, obviously, because Miss Havisham doesn't allow light in the house. No? Because, you know, ew.

Speaker 1 58:41

Um, no, and he's like, describing this guy in depth, and it's this weird interaction where the guy's like, well, you're, you know, but beforehand it says, um, he was nothing to me. And I could have, and I could have had no foresight then, that he ever would be anything to me. But it happened that I had this opportunity of observing him.

Brandon 59:01

Well, yeah, because they were, they ended up so close together, dark, right?

59:06

Like, yeah, okay, this

Speaker 1 59:09

interaction will come back, because you're talking about how, I mean, got a really good look at him,

Speaker 2 59:13

probably, maybe, I don't know, we'll figure it out. I don't know.

Speaker 1 59:19

He's called a no good. And the guy leaves right back up. He's like, what?

Brandon 59:23

Okay, man.

Tori L. 59:26

Anyway, so we're, uh,

Brandon 59:28

we get upstairs, right? And then we get to Miss Havisham, and she's like, we're gonna go for a walk. And he's like, what? And she's like, you're gonna walk me. And basically he's like, her crutch, like he is gonna be the human Pip, the human crutch, is just gonna walk around with Miss Havisham, who's still wearing same

Tori L. 59:48

clothes, which apparently she just always wears them.

Brandon 59:53

And he keeps he's very conscious that he seems to always be walking too fast.

Tori L. 59:58

Yeah, you know. She is only wearing one shoe, so, like, she also has a crutch, yeah?

Brandon 1:00:05

But, like, she's kind of not using it as much as using him right now, like she has one, but PIP is now the crutch.

Speaker 1 1:00:12

You told Did you? Did you wait? You skipped over the part where, well, she talked, she talks about, before they get to walking, she's pointing at the table, and she's like, that's where I'm gonna be one day when I'm dead. Oh, that's,

Brandon 1:00:24

that's why they're walking. That's where, that's the room they go to walking. Oh, yes, right, yeah, sorry. I'm just like, oh, skip over this. And I'm like, What the heck is right now is because she goes to the opposite room. So he they were going to a new room. Oh, right, right, right, right room, right?

Tori L. 1:00:45

And the, it's like, it's a very big, like ballroom situation, right? Because he is describing it as like, right?

Brandon 1:01:00

It was spacious, and they dare say, once been handsome, even, but every discernible thing and it was covered with dust and mold and dropping pieces. And the most prominent object was the long table with a table crawl off, spread on it as if a feast had been in preparation in the house, when and the or when the house and all the clocks stopped together. A centerpiece of some kind was in the middle of the cloth, and it was so heavily overhung with cobwebs that its form was quite Undistinguishable. And as I look along the yellow expanse out of which I remember it seeming to grow like a black fungus, I saw speckled leg spiders with blotchy bodies running home to it and running out from it, and if some circumstance of the greatest public importance had just transpired in their spider community. So yeah, yeah, big, giant table feast, right? We learned this

Tori L. 1:01:58

was a cake, right? Was a wedding cake, but, yes, wedding and then she

Brandon 1:02:04

just, like, casually, points to the table with her stick and said, This is where I will lay when I am dead, they shall come and look at me here.

1:02:12

Oh, he's like, Oh, well, how about that?

Brandon 1:02:18

That's, yeah, nice. This was, this was her bride the cake, right? And this is where she shall lay in state. And they, they shall do this, right? It's very crazy, but that's not the craziest part. Oh, no, it gets better, people, yeah, she, he calls to Estella, right? She comes back.

Tori L. 1:02:42

The other people come right?

Brandon 1:02:46

And you know they're, you know, they come in to see her, which, again, strange. So these are like some at one time, rather close acquaintances, I'm guessing, because they get to be in her presence. Yes, right? And we know people like Uncle or not, right? But we do the have, oh, dear, Miss Habersham, how well you look. I do not. I am yellow skin and bone,

Tori L. 1:03:16

great, right? So we have this, like, odd exchange, right? And we get what,

Brandon 1:03:29

like, she's they were talking and blah, blah. And then she, like, gets all upset, and she starts, like, banging on the table, right about where they're gonna sit at her funeral, right? She's like, you're gonna sit here, bang, and you there, bang, and you there, bang, and here's Georgie the wham, like,

Tori L. 1:03:52

oh, okay, yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 1:04:00

So she said, yeah, you'll sit here and you'll, you'll, like, this is where they'll be, and they'll eat of me, or something like that.

1:04:06

It's like, hmm,

Brandon 1:04:08

yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, she's gonna replace the cake cake, right? And they're gonna celebrate, like, I took this to mean that they're gonna be celebrating her death, yes, right?

Tori L. 1:04:19

That's kind of what I took her to mean by this, right?

Brandon 1:04:29

Yeah, and apparently there's this mysterious other person who's not here, right? Oh, Matthew, Matthew, right, like this, Matthew person, yes, when this same Matthew was mentioned, Miss Havisham stopped me and herself and stood looking at the speaker. This sudden change had great influence in bringing Camilla's chemistry to a sudden end. Right? Matthew will come. Didn't see me at last said Miss Havisham sternly, when I am laid on that table, that will be his place there, striking the table with her stick at my head.

Tori L. 1:05:12

So, so whoever Matthew is, he's in trouble. I don't know if, I don't know if Matthew, like this made me postulate perhaps Matthew was to be the bridegroom, right? The groom here at the situation and

Brandon 1:05:36

and left her. This is what I feel like is happening. I don't know if this is true, right? But I feel with the vitriol with which she talks about Matthew, in this instance, I feel like Matthew could be the person who

1:05:51

has wronged her, right?

Brandon 1:05:54

Because this was the only time she stopped like all the other time they were like they were talking, she just kept walking around the room like she

1:06:02

wasn't stopping, right?

Brandon 1:06:05

So they're having this weird conversation with her as she's just continuing to stroll around the room with him. And it's only when they bring the cab up that she stops, and she starts slamming her a little walking stick on the table, about, this is where you're gonna sit, and this is where you're gonna sit in this like,

Tori L. 1:06:23

okay, all right,

1:06:30

so have strong feelings about Yes.

Brandon 1:06:33

So they left, they left, and then like, Miss haberson's Like, she just drops the bombs like, yeah, it's my birthday, and

1:06:46

then he gets what's great is he's I

Brandon 1:06:49

was, yeah, I was gonna wish her many happy returns when she lifted her stick. I don't suffer it to be spoken of. I don't suffer those who were here just now, or anyone to speak of it. They came here on the day, but they dare not refer to it. Of course, I made no further effort to refer to it, yeah.

Speaker 1 1:07:08

Oh, so everybody was here, and everybody knew what was going on, and everybody was in

Brandon 1:07:13

on it, but, you know, okay, okay, got it, got it. You're all just ignoring it, I guess, yeah, right, on this day of the year, long before you were born, this heap of decay stabbing with her crutched stick at the pile of Collins on the table, but not touching it, was brought here, it and I were worn away together. The mice have knotted it, and sharper teeth than the teeth of mice have not at me, boom, when the ruin is complete, she said with a ghastly look. And when they lay me dead in my bride's dress, on the bride's table, which shall be done and which will be the finished curse upon him, so much the better of it, it is if it is done on this day. So she's like and also, I hope it, I hope I die on my birthday. Yeah, okay, right. Fun, real fun. Which, but again, which will be the finished curse upon him. And I'm taking this to be Matthew,

Tori L. 1:08:15

who is to be seated at the literal head of the table, right? Yes, in this instance, right? So I'm assuming whatever happens here, she blames math, right?

Brandon 1:08:30

Absolutely. So what I yes and so this, this mysterious Matthew, who you you know, we don't really know about Yeah, but he did bad, and they all know him, apparently,

Speaker 1 1:08:56

you know, like, we'll See because, but we don't have time to really stew on this, because quickly, yeah,

Brandon 1:09:09

because yeah, more card games, more strangeness, but then yeah, then what in the earth? This chapter just keeps giving up all the weirdness of this, this weird house, just insane, right? Like, absolutely makes no sense. Like, there's a, there's, there's another dude here, right, right?

Tori L. 1:09:32

Yeah, he's walking around the garden before it's time to leave, he notices a window, and there's a person there staring at him, yeah, and he's like, what? And then he refers to him as the pale young gentleman fair. This pale young gentleman quickly disappeared and reappeared beside me he had been in his books. When I found myself staring at him, and now saw that he was inky. He was doing work for reading something right so,

Brandon 1:10:13

and he's questions him. He's like, Who let you in here, Miss Estella, who gave you the prowl to prowl about? Miss Estella, come and fight what?

Tori L. 1:10:24

That's where we're going. What are we doing now? We're good enough. He's like, why don't you fisticuffs with me? Yeah. He's like,

Brandon 1:10:36

this was so weird. His manner was so final, and I was so astonished that I followed where he led, as if I was under his spell, right? And he's like, he doesn't want to fight him, and he the way in which this dude provokes him to fight is he charges him like a bull and the head butts him in the stomach. Yes, it's like, PIV decides it. He did not like that at all. Like, it really distressed him to be head butt in the stomach, which, you know, fair, like, it's weird.

Tori L. 1:11:14

Yeah, it's so hot. It's so yeah, yes,

Brandon 1:11:21

and, and so they fight, I guess. And he's like, what, what are the rules, the regular rules? And he's like, okay, okay, I don't know what that means, but all right,

1:11:35

right. And Pip, right? We have

Brandon 1:11:37

this interesting like, he the other guy's, like, very jumpy, right? I was, secretly afraid of him when I saw him so dexterous, but I felt morally and physically convinced that his light head of hair could not have had no business in the pit of my stomach, and then I had the right to consider it irrelevant when so obtruded to own my attention. So he just like starts fighting him, and he just, like, punches him, and the guy just like, falls down, he lays him out, back up again, yes, yeah, like, he just hits him, and it feels like he's not even hitting him, like, that hard, really, no, at first, he just like, jumps back up again, and it just it just hits him, and he's like, falls down, and he just keeps repeating his problem.

Speaker 1 1:12:26

And he's like, He's surprised, like, he talks about how surprised he was whenever he looked and the guy's down, getting up with a bloody nose, and then he's got a black eye, and then he's like, he falls back and hits his head so hard against the wall that he like, stammers up and spins around, and you're like, Oh,

Tori L. 1:12:43

my goodness, this is, this is not good, yeah.

Speaker 1 1:12:49

Like, and I I reading this, I really struggled to know, given what we had encountered with the garden and the barrels the previous time right of the person swinging, like I was really trying to understand, like, just reading this, but going, is this real? Like, is this something that actually happened, or is happening in this exact way? And I mean, we find out later that, yeah, this actually did happen, because he's got like, cut knuckles and blood on his pants. Like, okay, yeah.

Brandon 1:13:30

And he just, like, gets up and goes, Okay, thanks. And it's like, balance away, like,

1:13:37

and PIP is, like, still

Brandon 1:13:39

dumbfounded, and he doesn't understand what's happening. And then, to just further add to his befuddlement, right when he got to the courtyard, Estella is there waiting with the keys. She neither asked where I had been nor why had kept her waiting. And there was a bright flush upon her face, as though something had happened to delight her. But she goes back into the passage, and she just goes, come here. You may kiss me, if you like. Okay? And he kisses her on the cheek, and then he kind of feels a little bit bad about I felt that the kiss was given to the course common boy as a piece of money might have been and that it was worth nothing.

Tori L. 1:14:23

That doesn't mean he didn't like it, but like

Brandon 1:14:30

Right? And and then with, with the birthday visitors and the cards, and with the fire it and my stay had lasted so long that when I neared home, the light, oh, this is a good sense, though, the light on the spit of sand of the point on the marshes was gleaming against the black night sky, and Joe's furnace was flinging a path of fire

Speaker 1 1:14:47

across the road. I I highlighted that part. I was good,

Brandon 1:14:52

right? It's like his way. It's at Joe.

1:14:56

It's like a

Brandon 1:14:58

little lighthouse, right? The. Forge and Joe are lighting

Tori L. 1:15:02

the path back home, right, at least to some semblance of

Brandon 1:15:07

normalcy, normal. It's like relatively normal

Speaker 1 1:15:10

and safety for him, too, Joe. Joe is his safety, yes.

Tori L. 1:15:17

And then chapter 12, again, real weird, like

Brandon 1:15:21

they he, this is where he's like, I'm just gonna kind of tell you a bit about what's happening here in the spit of, uh, eight to 10 months. But he does go, when he goes back, he does, like, look around, you know, and he gets home and he's like, there is, you know, there was some stain on my trousers, and I tried to wash out this evidence, and I had cut my knuckles against his teeth, and I, you know, I twisted my imagination to 1000 tangles, and I devised inscrutable ways of accounting for the damnatory circumstances which I should be held before the judges. Right? He thinks he's getting in trouble for this. He's like the police are going to come. I have assaulted a person, right? Yes. He goes back to Miss Havisham. He looks at the ground. He covers it up with the moss, right from the eyes of man, is what he I think he uses that term and but like MS Habersham just talks to him like nothing happened, right? Anyway, push, you're gonna push me in a chair, right? It's like a wheelchair. But, like, one of the weird, like the old timey wheelchairs, it has, like the big front wheels, right? I'm thinking, like, Secret Garden, right? It is exactly the secret garden wheelchair. That's what I'm envisioning in my mind, right? Ladies, The Secret Garden wheelchair. So now she just, like, pushes him about, or no, he pushes her about that's what I meant to say, yes,

Collin Funkhouser 1:16:42

yes, and, and he's going back between basically two rooms and a walkway, and he's just doing this loop over and over and over again. Yeah, yeah. They just walk. He just pushes her in these, like two rooms, and that's it. That's it. That's all they do, right?

1:17:03

Boom, talking. A lot more they're

Brandon 1:17:06

talking, yeah, more he asked him to sing. He sings a song that like Joe, like he just starts singing like, Joe's little song that he hums when he's, like, keeping a rhythm in the forge.

Speaker 1 1:17:18

I love that. I love that little piece of not just that. It's a song that he's heard, but it's a song that Joe sings when he's forging to keep in time with beating and hammering and flattening everything out like it was. It's such a neat little like how a tune PIP is, and we later find out that, like, Pip is of age, that he should be

Collin Funkhouser 1:17:47

apprenticing now, like, yes, he should be spending his time with Joe all the time, but he's not. But he's still feeling drawn has these connections to him. Yeah, so,

Tori L. 1:18:02

uh, yeah, it's weird and then,

Brandon 1:18:07

but that does give us that we get the end. That brings to the end of the chapter, right? We, of course, we have some more. We have a weird thing about uncle is at the house, and they're being all weird and ridiculous

Speaker 1 1:18:19

and, oh, oh, wait before he he's got this little stuff here I hide out of this. He's talking about how in the like, he's singing this brooding voice, and Estella singing too, but there, yeah, all three. Oh yeah. Like, would often join in. The whole strain was so subdued, even when there were three of us, it would made less noise in the grim old house than the lightest breath of wind. So they're just like, yeah, a dirge, basically, is kind of how this, yeah. Then he says, he says that I was just, I was like, Oh, this is it, at least for, like, where he's struggling here, where he says, What could I become with the surrounding How could my character fail to be influenced by them. It is, is it to be wondered as if my thoughts were dazed as my eyes were when I came out into the natural light from the misty yellow rooms? So he's even like looking back going this all was impacting me psychologically, and how I because it was weird perceived things too,

Tori L. 1:19:23

yeah, yeah,

Brandon 1:19:25

but also because it was weird,

Speaker 1 1:19:27

yeah, also freaking weird here.

Brandon 1:19:30

It's very strange, right? Anyway, we get back to the house, and uncle is there being a miserable human, and Mrs. Joe is being all grumpy and pummeling people, right? Like, I don't even know, but

Tori L. 1:19:49

the the thing that was weird was the

Brandon 1:19:50

very end of the again, it's always the end of the chat. There's like, a bunch of strange stuff, and then at the end, you're like, What the heck was? Again, I think this is a device so that you remember you. For next week, right? Tune in next time for like, you know what I mean. But whenever we have the as we're carting around, right? She's just like, huh, you're going tall Pip,

Tori L. 1:20:12

right? Miss Habersham, and

Brandon 1:20:15

he's like, I thought it best to hand through the medium of meditative look that this might be occasioned by circumstances over which I had no control.

Speaker 2 1:20:24

I like that sentence that was also highlighted. He's like, I'm booked.

Brandon 1:20:29

Sorry. I guess I don't know, right?

Speaker 1 1:20:33

Because she said it with such displeasure, right? He noticed that such but like some like, she was really off put by this. And he's like,

Brandon 1:20:42

I mean, yeah, I am kind of right. So this, this part's weird where she just like, tell me the name of this blacksmith of yours, right? With this is the master which you were to be apprenticed to you. Had better be apprentice at once. Would he come here with you and bring your

1:21:07

indentures? Do you think

Brandon 1:21:10

I signify that I had no doubt that he would take it as an honor to be asked then let him come so she wants to see Joe, right? And of like any particular time they're there, I know nothing of times, let him come soon and

Tori L. 1:21:25

come along with you. So

Brandon 1:21:32

this upset the sister, really we have the sister went on a rampage in a more alarming degree than any previous period.

Speaker 1 1:21:41

Because, basically, because we have to remember, Miss Haversham is esteemed by the community, right? Kind of, yeah. He's like the Yeah, like the rich weird lady, like, yeah, like the weird rich old lady, yeah. The reason that you have these two worlds, it's three worlds. Now his sister and his uncle are trying to figure out how we can use Miss Habersham to to advance Joe and make our family better. And hitch our right. Yeah, like

Brandon 1:22:11

hitch our hitch our wagon. Wagon to pip

Tori L. 1:22:14

here, right, yes, and

Speaker 1 1:22:16

and Joe and PIP are indifferent to this. Which, yeah, which, which the sister and the uncle think is ridiculous. And, like, obviously, because they're, they're horrible people, and they just want to go about their own lives and do their thing. And then you have Haversham, who's using PIP as a distraction to her own world and whatever she's going through. We'll figure that out later. And so it's so her the sister, is incensed that she wasn't invited, that, that she can't get status and connection to this, that it's Joe, of all people, the simpleton and the blacksmith and bip, who's a no good, horrible person kind of thing, like it's yes, she just can't wrap her mind around why this would happen. Yeah, it is a very odd juxtaposition. This whole thing I was thinking about that today, of like

Brandon 1:23:15

the perceived wealth of Miss Havisham, but it's like a decaying, rotten, unused

Tori L. 1:23:21

wealth, whereas, like,

Brandon 1:23:25

it's almost like she has more than she needs and she doesn't even do anything with it. And PIP and Joe and Mrs. Joe have,

Tori L. 1:23:36

like, work hard to not

Brandon 1:23:39

even have enough to meet their needs, right? It's like a very weird like, so it's a weird juxtaposition where we have, like the rich and once magnificent falling into decay, versus like the much more like common working like lower class, like trying to get by on barely nothing like it's, it's very weird. It's a very weird picture.

Tori L. 1:24:07

Yeah, and, ah, so

Speaker 1 1:24:14

well, and because Joe remember PIP asked Estella, like, or she was telling him what the name of the status house meant, as in, like, yes, satisfied like, or like more that like, what you have is enough and to be worked on, or to to

Brandon 1:24:31

what forget. How did she describe that and what chapter that was right?

Collin Funkhouser 1:24:37

Basically, like, it's it isn't basically it was a it is enough. And she made the comment of, well, I don't know about that, because there's nothing here, and that's true. Yeah, it's all fallen. And so you bringing this up, of, like it is this very weird of what is enough? What will you be satisfied with, and what stature and name and. Accolades are necessary, and that's what, that's what PIP is working through, isn't it? He's, yeah, he's rough house, right? That's what she said, Yeah, of house, enough house he's working through. Am I enough? Yeah? And everyone around him, save Joe is saying, no, yes, right, like, and now he's, he's literally like, it's just you that you see all these things are pulling him and trying to tell him what he needs to be, yes, yeah, it's

Brandon 1:25:34

and he's trying to navigate that and trying to figure out what he needs. So I'm assuming we're going to get some, at least soon, some sort of direction of or some, some of pips commentary on that, right? Because it's kind of building there, I would hope that we don't have to wait for the end, for at least some of Pip's thoughts on this matter, right? Like, I feel like it's got to be building a little bit right about because we've been confronted with all of these different things.

Tori L. 1:26:06

And so maybe, if Joe is going there with him, maybe we'll get, not, like, a clarification, obviously, that's just out of the realm of possibility, but like, like, at least some

Collin Funkhouser 1:26:23

of pips thoughts and comments on this subject. Well, I think what's going to happen is, I think Joe is going to have comments on Haversham, probably like and, and, yes, and then we're going to get pips conversation about that

Speaker 1 1:26:40

as like, about like, I think it's gonna be a conversation between him and Joe, and we're gonna get some feelings

Tori L. 1:26:45

about what's going on there. Potentially, yes, I'm excited. No, or maybe not.

Brandon 1:26:51

Yeah, you know, also maybe not, but maybe I don't know. So what else? Tune in next

Tori L. 1:26:58

time for more PIP

Brandon 1:27:01

confusion. That's

Speaker 1 1:27:02

what we're gonna go, yeah, and who knows what, absolutely, who knows

Brandon 1:27:07

what that is true. So confused, more more Miss Havisham weirdness that that we can pretty much confirm, right? With tons of Havisham weirdness. Yes, that's all this is going to be. That's what's gonna happen, yep, so I we'll see, we'll see what happens with that. That's so bizarre. Yeah, yes, oh my goodness, yes. So, yeah. So still continuing, right? The pros is good. Sometimes the storytelling it's like,

1:27:43

what is happening

Tori L. 1:27:44

right now? Yeah, yeah, we'll see. Boom. Well, I have a haiku to hot. Let's go. I think I did this right. Hold on, I need water. That's fine. It's okay.

Brandon 1:28:05

Road That's right. Varying temperatures, long session, technical difficulties, all okay.

Tori L. 1:28:13

Resulting here we have imagination pieces make stories alive, worlds inside a box. Nice. I like it Lego, yeah, boom,

Speaker 3 1:28:34

very nice air. It's that yes, so yes, we will,

Speaker 1 1:28:40

don't, did, oh, don't get blown away tomorrow, when we have wind gusts, I don't know, it's probably just us, wind gusts of like 45 plus tomorrow. Yeah, that's gonna be rough. So we'll see. So if we don't get blown away, we'll do this again next time. Yes, yes, hold on tight.

Brandon 1:28:57

And yeah, power lines. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's weird. Like, our, my hourly forecast is, like, it's gonna be warm overnight, but then, like, if it's gonna get colder in the morning,

1:29:13

it's, it's, I don't, I don't know

Speaker 1 1:29:18

what that's, what that's code for listeners is Collins throat and NASA isn't going to get any better anytime soon for all this stuff to settle

Tori L. 1:29:28

down. So, yeah,

1:29:31

okay, 45

Speaker 1 1:29:36

great. So tune in next time to see did we survive bravely? Is Collins voice honey in your tea. What will, what will the internet be like at that time too?

Tori L. 1:29:48

Who knows? And on that bombshell, Oh, yes.

1:29:55

Very good. Love. Love you. Let me do bye. On.

Speaker 1 1:30:00

First day of Christmas, oh brother gave to me a hearty Ahoy, full of Glee. I mean, we should probably just say hello, but we're kind of committed at this point. On the second day of Christmas, oh brother gave to me two haikus. I mean, do we really know what the order this is is a five, seven, I don't know, and a hearty ahoy full of Glee on the third day of Christmas. So brother gave to me three brothers bonding. That's Brandon, Aaron and Collin, two haikus and a hearty ahoy full of Glee on the fourth day of Christmas, oh brother gave to me four segues and speaking of Christmas songs, Three brothers bonding, two haikus and a hearty Ahoy, full of Glee

1:30:57

on The fifth day

1:30:59

of Christmas, oh brother gave to me five top five list.

Speaker 1 1:31:08

Everything's a top five list, if you really think about it, four segues, Three brothers bonding, two haikus and a hearty Ahoy, full of Glee on the sixth day of Christmas, oh brother gave to me six obscure references. If you can't say deep cut after it, it doesn't count. Five. Top five list, four segues, Three brothers bonding, two haikus and a hearty ahoy full of Glee on the seventh day of Christmas, oh brother gave to me seven book discussions. We really should have read these books a long time ago. Six obscure references, five, top five lists, four, segues, Three brothers bonding, two haikus and a hearty Ahoy, full of Glee on the eighth day of Christmas, oh brother gave to me eight feline movies. Thank you, cinema cats and Linda Kay, you are amazing. Seven book discussions, six obscure references, five, top five lists, four segues, Three brothers bonding, two haikus and a hearty ahoy full of Glee. On the ninth day of Christmas, oh brother gave to me nine pearls of wisdom. Be kind and rewind. Eight feline movies, seven book discussions, six obscure references, five, top five list, four segues, Three brothers bonding, two haikus and a hearty ahoy full of Glee on the 10th day of Christmas, oh brother gave to me 10 rabbit holes. Well, not to get off topic right now, but this reminds me of nine pearls of wisdom, eight, Beeline movies, seven, book discussions, six, obscure references, five, top five list four. Segues, Three brothers bonding, two haikus and a hearty Ahoy, full of Glee. On the 11th day of Christmas, oh brother gave to me 11 encyclopedias. I got it for so cheap from the library. 10 rabbit holes, nine pearls of wisdom, eight, Beeline movies, seven, book discussions, six, obscure references, five, top five lists, four segues, Three brothers bonding, two haikus and a hearty Ahoy full of Glee on the 12th day of Christmas. Oh brother gave to me 12 nostalgia trips. Oh my gosh, the 80s were so Brown. 11 encyclopedias, 10 rabbit holes, nine pearls of wisdom, eight, Beeline movies, seven, book discussions, six, obscure references, five, top five list, four segues, Three brothers, bonding, two haikus and a hearty Ahoy, full of Glee. Merry Christmas. You.