enough ambidexterity
Brandon is digging. Collin has a new desk. Pip has a weird day.
Digging for rock samples
1-2 punch!
Small children frighten me
Desk configurations!
Check off things and click with mouse
I have enough ambidexterity
It’s generally done
Some call it frightening!!
Truck guy!
Brandon’s raging at the internet
Old man screams at cloud
Air Fryers make better grilled cheese than a pan
Signs your middle class on an airplane
The Never Ending Story is a Better Fantasy Story than the Lord of the Rings
Tuba jokes!!
Our brand voice
Great Expectations
Chapters 7-9
Brandon Haiku:
Spade breaks the surface
Revealing tales of Earth’s past
Long hidden from view
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SUMMARY KEYWORDS
podcast, ambidexterity, seasons change, allergies, rock samples, wind chill, beverages, desk setup, ambidextrous, checklists, grading, tuba Christmas, Miss Havisham, Estella, social class, Pip's emotions, insecurity, Estella, Miss Havisham, ghosts, mental state, Joe, lies, Victorian currency, coming of age, chains, supernatural, self-reflection, character development, haiku
SPEAKERS
Collin, Brandon
Collin 00:05
Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out.
Collin 00:10
It's your hosts, Brandon and Collin on this week's show, enough. Ambidexterity. Wow,
00:28
that was that
00:30
wonderfully fine, wonderfully
Brandon 00:32
thinned vinegar and honey stat. That's what
00:39
I just needed, more water. That's worse. It's getting bad.
Collin 00:45
Sorry, I have no voice today. Hello. Oh, sweet, yes, yes, it's fine, though, all is well.
Collin 00:58
I am that. What was it two days ago? Two days ago, it was the changing of, like, the seasons again, where, like the wind was coming only out of the south, and it was warm, and then that's the day it was two days ago where I was like, I could feel like I had allergies that day. And I was like, sneezing, and I was like, and I could feel just like everything coming on. And then the wind was like, I'm coming out of only the north now. And now it's really cold and everything's horrible. My body went Yes, and now we will shut everything now.
Brandon 01:43
Yes, I am very aware of that, because yesterday was the only day this week I could go outside and dig for rock samples. And so it was just a real pleasant morning of like, yeah, freezing. It was really annoying too, because, like, the air, like, the temperature, temperature, oh, like, wasn't really that bad. Like, the wind, oh my oh my gosh. Like, and the wind was, like, cold, right? So, like, it was just a one two punch of like, horridness.
Collin 02:16
Where, yes, yes, it was Yeah, because I remember checking ours, it was like, Oh, the temperature is 45 degrees. It should be nice. But no, the wind chill was, it was 21 with the wind chill awesome.
Brandon 02:33
It wasn't quite that bad, but it was like, it was like 37 or eight, like, down here. But if still, like, like, the air temperature was, like, supposed to be like 4647 Okay, yeah, yeah. And then yeah, that feels like temperature was like 38
Collin 02:55
it was, it was gross. It was horrible. So this is, this is the result, because now I've been set on a path where my nose was even made to be less functional than before, which it didn't have to go far for being perfectly honest. But then that was like, Oh, now I really do need to mouth breathe, because my nose doesn't work at all. And now my throat straight out. And now,
Collin 03:23
so lots of water today. And of course, it was like, oh, many drinks right here.
Brandon 03:29
I have, like, yes, you know, Susan just got back. Well, the reason I'd be late, Susan was helping with the preschool program.
Collin 03:38
Oh,
Brandon 03:41
again, terrifies me. As a person whose personality is small, children frighten me. It's fine. So she just got a little bit of ghost. We had to eat a little bit late. But now I have, like, my drink from dinner, and then I have my water and my teeth. Just have all those, oh, beverages here ready to go.
Collin 04:02
I, as someone who spent two days this week locked in front of a computer for eight hours straight, I sat down at my desk and I was like, here is my coffee cup, here is my extra carafe of coffee. Here is my water. Here is my ice water, here is my little drink, and you're surrounded by beverages. Ready to learn. Let's do this
04:30
beverage for the right time,
Collin 04:33
right then what was unfortunate was we had to do like, it was all about doing these demos of pet first aid and CPR, and having to display, and not just like, show the instructor the skill, but we had to say, like, we had to do a presentation of skills to her so she could sign off. And then I was like, Oh no, I don't have room on my desk, so I'm like, quickly shuffling all of my drinks, like, to the floor and my book. Yeah, despair thing. And so for the rest of the time, I would have to, like, it was this mental, like, fatigue, of like, which quadrant has the coffee in it? Is it the chair? Is it the desk? Is it the on the floor? Is it the bookshelf?
Collin 05:18
And so basically, it was just like, anytime I was thirsty, I would just start turning my head scanning for, like, what's the thing to satiate me? Now, this is
Brandon 05:30
fair. I feel like, here's, here's my I don't know. I don't know I wanted your take on this, right so my desk configuration right when I like it at work, right when I have my actual desk right, not here with my, you know, makeshift, whatever, like my actual work desk, like it's a, you know, like work, PC, mouse, keyboard, the whole nine yards, right? Yeah, my, my, my, go. I like the drink
Tori L. 05:59
on the left side,
Brandon 06:01
oh, right, because right hand is, like, firmly in like, mouse mode, right? You have mouse plus pin action happening right hand, right, and so drink goes on the left side, right. It's how it works in my life, right? Yeah, feel free to disagree, but like that is how I
Collin 06:24
it is really hard because I too am like my right hand is doing too much, because also with me, it's like my phone is on the right side and my pens on the right side. And now I know I put my my paper and notebook in front of me. So it goes like, so it's like, I have, like, yeah, paper, keyboard, keyboard, it's like, above it, right, yes, yeah, but like, yes, now it depends or like
Brandon 06:52
rating here, keyboard, up there, pin holder on the
Collin 06:57
right hand side, yes. My pens here, my my left side, what do I have at my desk? Oh, my goodness, I'm really thinking now, because I'm at a coffee table currently on my it's crazy. Oh, and I have, I have desk news later, so I am Oh, I usually my left side is where I will end up pushing my notebook whenever I'm doing more intense things. So that's usually where, like notebook blank, no man's land. And it is where my water goes, because my coffee stays on the right side, because I don't trust myself with my left hand and warm things. So water goes on the left, coffee goes on the right is what I would do.
Brandon 07:42
Oh, very interesting.
07:45
I am not right ambidextrous when it comes to things.
Brandon 07:50
Oh, I kind of am, like, with drinking out of my cup. I am that's fine. I do sometimes, like, if I'm doing checklists, right? Like, if I'm just doing like, a checklist, or, like, I have a list and I'm crossing things off of it, you know,
Tori L. 08:10
like, I will
Brandon 08:14
go, like, especially when I'm like, grading stuff, right? I do, I will. I will go mouse, right hand, pin, left hand, right, because I can't really write left handed very well, but like, I can make check marks or strike through right. That's I will. I will, like, just like, check off things and like, click with mouse, and then like, type. And then that's I will do that. I have enough ambidextrou T ambidexterity is that a word ambidexterity, it is now, take that Dickens. There's a big word for you, throw that at you, that I can do that. So I will make check marks or strike through or like little things, like little marks with pin in my left hand, and continue to use my mouse and move around with the right hand when I'm, like, flipping through presentations or stuff like that. I can
Tori L. 09:05
sure do that. Yes, I like that, because it's just too
Brandon 09:09
annoying to, like, have the pin and the mouse in one hand and, like, have to, like, like that back and forth. Like, it's just too much sometimes, if you're doing a lot of like, a lot a lot of stuff, like, I'll just be like, Nah, I can make checkmarks at this end. Well, yeah, they don't even turn into, like, dual checkmarks, just like little bashes, right? Like, shop, shop, shop kind of thing. Yeah, it's just like the uptake of the check mark, right?
Collin 09:32
Like, I guess I will do that whenever I've pushed my because my notebook I took each fresh page will, typically, is where I for the day will start and do my, like, my checklist for the day, of things that I know I need to get done and whatever. And when I push that over to the left, yeah, I will grab my pen from time to time and check those, because they don't need to
Collin 09:54
be very precise. It's just kind of like, Yeah, over just check off the boxes. Yeah, yeah, right.
09:59
It's cheap. Generally done,
Collin Funkhouser 10:00
yeah. Also,
Tori L. 10:03
just since this is
Brandon 10:06
weird, things we do time. I do this thing, I wear it. When I make a list, I put, like, a dash, right? So it's like, dash this thing, like, especially when I'm Grady, like, I had today on a post it note, a big list I had to grade like, a bunch of stuff. So it was like, or this week, rather, not just today. So it was like, you put, like, a dash, and then write all the things, and then when I have completed them, I make it into a plus sign, right? So I'm like, ooh, boom.
Collin 10:39
That's my other thing that I do that's kind of weird, and I don't really know where I did figured, like, pick that up from but like, that's what I will do also, like, I don't know where you pick that up because I too do that. Oh, that's weird, but I want to, I want to show I want to tell you. Of the other thing that you could do is, when I don't get to something, I take that dash and I turn it into an arrow pointing to the sometimes, meaning next day. Like, this is the do again. Like, like, do later, because I didn't get to it.
Brandon 11:09
I'm always, I'm never, I don't know I sometimes I'll just move it to, yeah, I'll do that. And then I just move on to a new post. It note, yes, yeah, right, when i Yes, and I throw the old one away. This is a migrate over to the new Exactly.
Collin 11:20
It's the it's the continuing,
Collin 11:23
like, do, yeah, yes, yeah. This is interesting. I it
Brandon 11:27
is very weird that we may have independently developed a similar that's frightening. What that is this? I call it frightening.
11:37
Some definitely call this.
Brandon 11:42
This is, this is, those people's names are Megan and
Collin 11:44
Susan, yeah, they're very concerned for everything right now.
Collin 11:50
This is, but this is really bizarre. This is, we don't know where this this is, this will require more, more in depth research here. Yes, right?
Tori L. 12:03
But I have, I have,
Collin 12:06
I have desk news. Oh, let's go. Okay, so at my, my home, I have a little desk, and it's one that actually Megan got me when we moved up. It's a, it's a very, it's a small glass top desk with a little pull out tray for things. It's very nice. I like, it's not this big honking desk.
Collin Funkhouser 12:25
Yeah, I was coming into
Brandon 12:28
you like a big honking desk. So
Collin 12:33
I was coming into our office in town. I was walking by the front door. Came into the building, and on my left,
Tori L. 12:43
I turned and they were moving some furniture, and the person says, oh, Collin, we have this desk here. Would you like it now? Listeners, Brandon, what you don't know
Collin Funkhouser 13:04
is that when you come into where the building is, there was a certain tax accountant that had the right side office. Yes, our dad had the left side office. Yes, when dad closed his business, this tax accountant took over the office on the left. Okay, I think I did know that yeah and and kept Dad's desk, yo. Let's go. So I says, yes, absolutely.
Collin 13:34
I will take that desk right now, right like I have, I have to give you a phone call in five minutes, but I will move this desk now also listeners
Speaker 3 13:45
this desk, when I from memory, it's quite big. Yes, it is true. Okay, I remember this was quite large.
Collin 13:59
It is heavier than the moon. That's all wood. Yeah, it is. And what I love about this, okay, so this desk I have many memories of because it is really wide. Dad was telling me it was an old lawyer's desk. So it's super flat, right? It's very flat. It's a desk prior to people having computers. It is not a computer desk, it is an office desk. And this is, ladies and gentlemen, this is what I want. When I want a desk, I do not want a computer desk. I want a desk where it is miles of oak and wood in front of you and around on either side. And so I we push this down because we didn't have a dolly. Oh God. We slid it on a spare piece of carpet, down the tile floor, and then into my office. Got it in there. Now I already have a desk, and so now it's like, well, I.
Collin Funkhouser 15:00
Things are changing here.
Collin 15:02
So then I spent an hour heaving and pushing and pulling and getting everything set up and getting this thing in there, and checking all the drawers and still has all the keys and stuff to lock them in, everything. Wow, yes,
Brandon 15:16
those get lost immediately. That's crazy, I know.
Collin 15:20
So I sat out for a little bit and will be
Brandon 15:25
like I'm imagining. Here's what I'm imagining, imagining,
Tori L. 15:29
sits in chair, slightly, leans back, spreads out palms, drums fingers,
Brandon 15:39
feeling pretty much. What happened? Is it my mind path here?
Collin 15:43
Yeah, opens drawers. Open drawers. Yeah, tested them out, you know, give them a real good once look over, you know, yeah. And I'll tell you when I opened up that center drawer and pulled it out, I can tell you where his pens were, like those blue and red pintle pens, or pencils, how those sat in that drawer, like, Oh my goodness.
Collin 16:18
So now I don't have anything else in that room, because nothing else fits,
Collin 16:22
but I have a nice desk. And I am, I am very excited about this. I am, I am going back to them tomorrow, because there are, like, some other pieces of our furniture in there that I'm pretty sure were his as well. And I'm going to be like, Yo, you get rid of that too, because I will totally pretty good. So there you go. We will see. But this is, so this is, that's the big desk news, but this is pretty exciting desk news. Yes, right? Yes. This is good stuff. But this is not the only solid piece of furniture heavier I
16:56
saw pictures of the other one. Yes, yes,
Collin 16:57
we have brought into our life, so our local library contact. Oh, so we're in our library a lot. I like how
Brandon 17:04
you go there so much that when they're trying to get rid of weird old stuff, they just call you now they should be frightening to you, like, you know, I know.
17:13
Let's call Collin. We have, I bet he'll
Collin 17:16
want that's furniture from the library. I wonder if Collin would like this bookcase from the 1930 Oh, he's already picking it up. Okay, okay.
Brandon 17:24
Bye, yeah, he already has two of them. So
Collin 17:29
how did he so, yes, they called, and they said, so they didn't call me, but I was in there, and they're like,
Brandon 17:35
oh, Collin just looked up your information on your card. I'm like, All right, we're gonna we are just, we
17:41
are getting new
Collin Funkhouser 17:46
desks and tables for the computer room. Would you like the old ones? And I was like, what? And I walked over, and there are these. These tables are eight feet long by four feet wide, maybe three and a half feet, and they are like thick and old,
Collin 18:06
and they've got a big cross beam that goes across the middles the feet splay out in them. And I didn't even measure, I didn't even know what we were going to do with it. I just Yes, yes,
Brandon 18:17
yes, I want and your wife said, What the heck are you doing?
Collin 18:21
She said, Collin, stop talking to them. What do you know? So then, like, a month went by, two months went by, three months went by, and I'm just kind of being like, I don't want to be pushy, because I know you're giving it to me for free, but also, like, where's my free table? And in the meantime, we decided we needed a new dining room table because ours came with the house, and it's never been the sturdiest thing. And in years has gone on, it's become more like, okay, no, we're it's been good to teach about not putting your elbows on the table, because I think if everybody rocks back and forth, like, yeah, school cafeteria tables like, yes, yes. It would just collapse if everyone Oh, no. So we've been eating, like, very daintily on it. And finally, they're like, come pick it up, Collin. And I'm like,
19:11
Yes. Finally,
Collin 19:14
however, I have to make a quick phone call to my neighbor because he has a truck and don't have this. So we go over there, and they're like, Oh, you can put this. You could just take this. It's up in the main floor, but it's really close to the elevator. So just taking the elevator down and get out. And we get up there, and he and I are looking at this thing, and I'm like, this is not going in an elevator, like, this thing is massive. And then he goes, Well, how heavy could it be? And we go to pick it up. This is a three person table. It is. And like, I know I'm no bodybuilder, but like, I'm a big guy. He's, he's a he's in shape guy. We, we are, like, oof. This is. Not going so, like, the maintenance guy came over and was our third hand picking this thing up and getting it into his truck. Yes, Megan and I, like, we get into our house. We set it down. We decommission on our old table. We like, are, like, struggling to get this into our dining room, and it like, plunks down, and it's just like settled, like, it's one of those things like, it just has its own gravitational force as things like, like the desk now in my office there's, there's technically room for other things to put in there, but they would just slope towards it if there was no items in the room. So this thing is just
Brandon 20:49
like Einstein gravitational model, just like bending the space
20:53
around its mass. Yes,
Collin 20:55
yes, yeah. And so it's just, and I'm happy, because it's like, I have, I can. I'm continuing my process of bringing in like old things into my life. True.
Brandon 21:11
Collin, I have bad news for you. You cannot. You cannot continue to acquire large furniture at this rate, and not just give in and become a truck guy. Okay, you can't, I don't know how much longer
21:29
you can put it off. Okay, like
Brandon 21:33
it's coming for you, right? It's coming. You don't get to be like, I'm gonna buy, I'm gonna acquire this massive dresser. Oh, no, it's gonna, it's, it's converting. We're on a non stop course here.
Collin 21:50
If, if Nova were older, I would buy him a truck so that he could drive. Okay,
22:02
classic. Dad move. Well, I
Brandon 22:04
can use it. Don't
22:07
think. I haven't thought about,
Collin 22:12
oh my gosh, our future fleet is all planned out, and it's very helpful to me.
Brandon 22:21
However, I already have this plan.
22:24
I have to wait seven years to implement this.
22:26
So got a bit of a It's good that you're looking ahead. But also, like, also
Collin 22:34
I don't have, so, yes, I don't know what I would have done if I, if, like, the desk could have I moved it 15 feet, and I have a neighbor, and I live three minutes, it was going, I know really, it's just like and like. It's one of those just
22:52
false town.
Collin 22:57
Yes, oh dear, that's great. Eventful, eventful week. Nice, nice.
Brandon 23:09
Oh, man, I haven't really had an eventful week, other than digging up for rocks, right? But I do have some notes here, right, that I made because I remembered this time. Sometimes when I have a me doing nothing weak. I'm like, oh, I should remember that to tell Collin. Oh, yeah. And then I'll say, like, I'll write that down later. And then I promptly forget. And so I have made a few notes of things that I have come across this week. Mostly these all fall under the category of I Google is going something wrong. Is happening with your Google feeds, right? I don't know what is happening with the updates, and I don't know where it is pulling
Tori L. 23:49
these headlines from, but they're kind of bad, right? And I think
Brandon 23:56
we've reached the age of the Internet where we're just trying to rage bait people into clicking on things
Tori L. 24:02
right? Okay,
Brandon 24:05
so I have have have some Brandon raging at the internet and how they're wrong. Segment here for you, there's a favorite returning segment I always title this old man screams the clouds. Yeah. So that's fine. That's fine. That's fine. It's good to be consistent, right? Number one, air fryers make bread or grilled cheese in a pan.
Tori L. 24:30
What? What?
Brandon 24:31
What? What? Shut up, get out, right? I titled this in my notes, more air fryer propaganda
24:39
jets. The
Speaker 3 24:40
cult continues. The cult continues have to spread good news,
Brandon 24:44
trying to tell you how you're not good enough. Your grilled cheese is not sufficient. You need an air fryer to make a good grilled cheese, not
Tori L. 24:55
just up pan.
Brandon 24:57
Okay, the grilled cheese is like the most. Simple food of all time, okay, literally, you grill some cheese on bread and to done all right? No, no other steps necessary, and they're trying to make you feel guilty that you well. And that's what prior Well, that's
Collin 25:19
what makes us so insidious, because it is so simple, it gets people thinking like, what? Like, how could it be better? And then they start to doubt themselves, that that it was any good. And then they start to think less of themselves. Spoiler alert for what we're going to come up here in our book soon, but like, geez, yeah, that's
Brandon 25:38
true. It does fit in with a nice classism,
Collin 25:43
yes, yes. Elitism here. We're all like, yeah, you thought you were doing fine, but really now you just need to, like, hate your life.
25:51
Yes, you thought
Brandon 25:52
that a grilled cheese sandwich was just fine, but you That's because you've been doing it wrong, right, and you've been Collin knaves Jacks the whole time. And you didn't know that
26:05
grilled cheese actually shouldn't even be grilled. It should be
Brandon 26:08
air fried, right? Yes, good. So that made me angry, all right? That one made me real angry. The second thing that made me angry was one of those dumb articles, and I, like, did accidentally click on it, just full for rage purposes, but it was like signs you're middle class on an airplane,
26:27
bro. What
Brandon 26:30
like, speaking of elitism, okay, like shush. Who cares that my business? You know, I know it was like the most toxic thing of all time. Okay, this is some like, extreme post capitalistic take about like, how people on the airplane aren't well to do enough for you to sit by them, like, turn up your nose upon the peasants. Like it was gross. It was gross. And I don't know why Google would ever recommend an article like that to somebody, because it was awful, right? It was just absolute trash, and it wasn't written well and like, that's
Collin 27:08
bad. Oh, my goodness. It was really bad. Okay?
Tori L. 27:13
However, this next one, oh no, maybe
Brandon 27:19
the most egregious take I have ever heard, and which convinced me that the internet just wants to make you angry so that you click on things. Oh, right, because they don't have any other way to monetize you, right? Because they need to. You're the commodity now. Sorry, spoilers. So your clicks are the only somehow they're getting money off of this, right?
Tori L. 27:45
And so they put up articles like this. Oh no, I'm not
Brandon 27:51
going to link the article because, yes, we're not egregious and terrible, and we're not going to give the author the time of day, because, again, was this article even written very well? No, and I think it was probably written by somebody who's like 17 I don't know this feels like a 17 year olds like hot take, right? But this article was attempting to convince you, Collin, oh, that the never ending story is a better fantasy trilogy than the Lord of the Rings.
28:24
Oh, okay,
Brandon 28:27
yeah, that is a sentence that you could say however. Okay, okay, okay, it's the wrongest. I didn't know that people could be any more wrong than they already were. But if you are a person that describes to this theory, I need to never meet you in real life, like I can't be in your presence. All right, I shun you. That's how this works. All right, there's, there's no. There is no universe in which this is the correct answer, right? Absolutely none.
Collin Funkhouser 29:05
No, no, no,
29:09
no, I don't even know
Speaker 3 29:11
the film junk. Shut up. What is
Collin 29:15
the films? The films That's odd, like, that's what I don't like. No, no, that's and
Brandon 29:25
they were, they were specifically implemented, indicating that the film was better. Like, the film series of the new version story was better.
Tori L. 29:34
I don't guys, what? No, what?
Collin 29:38
I don't know. I don't know how you get to that point in your life, like, Who hurt you? Seriously? That is insane. Yeah, that person does not need Yeah.
Brandon 29:53
I better never cross your path. Author of this terrible written article that's full of lies. And wellness, right? Like, again, it does feel like a 17 year old person wrote this just to be like, I'm edgy and I have an edgy take. It's gonna incense people, so they can click on my thing, and then they'll leave comments at the bottom right and drive engagement which the article is monetized. So that means that because people clicked on my thing, I will get the monetization money from this right? That's really what this is. Yes, it is, but it's also the most wrong thing I've ever read.
Collin 30:31
Yeah, they're very clearly trying to drive people so that they can display more ads with Google yes on their page and fill that up absolutely yes.
Brandon 30:41
And again, I don't know, because the internet is like, you know, I used to think that the dead internet theory was bunk, but I'm pretty sure it's just actually true,
Tori L. 30:55
right? So like that. I don't know
Brandon 30:58
what these Google recommendations are, or where they're getting these from. But, like, whatever this new update thing is, they have, like, if you just like, click on it to, like, look through, like, the newsfeed thing or whatever, it's just terrible, right? It's absolutely terrible. Their little AI, like, summary thing is bad, right? And the places that they're getting these are just like, these are just like, made up and like, nobody. What is this? I have no idea what's happening. Stop it like, it's just bad. So this is my old man screams the clouds moment. Thank you for your time. But I just needed you to know that this is the most wrong thing that I've ever read in my whole entire life. I read this.
Collin Funkhouser 31:44
I wonder if this is their attempt at, like, pushing back
Collin 31:52
against is this? Is this them trying to drive traffic? Be in the world of AI, and this is the only way they can think to do it, is having just the most outlandish, obscene, ridiculous takes, and trying to get people like, is this? Is this what they're doing? Because I think this is what they're doing.
Brandon 32:10
I mean, maybe that could be what they're doing, right? No, I don't even know if this is a constant decision. They could have just like, badly coded something.
32:20
No, this, this sounds intentional.
Brandon 32:22
Like, I know. I mean, it might be, but like,
32:26
I mean, the way that, like,
Brandon 32:28
the articles and the ads look exactly the same in this, like, scrolling thing, like, that's pretty sus like, it's just, it's just not good, and don't like it, and it makes me grumpy, but also it presents you with things like this, with things like yeah, people might actually think I never considered that this person might actually exist, a person that actually believes that the never ending story movies are better than The Lord of the Rings. It seems impossible to me that a person like that could actually be real, right?
Tori L. 33:09
I don't like
Brandon 33:12
just on every level that I can think of, every metric that you can measure, like that doesn't sound like a thing that a real person can think like,
Collin 33:22
I'm looking up. So the director, the director of this is Wolfgang Peterson, a German film director, which explains an awful lot. Did he hold somebody at gunpoint to write maybe, like, is there some, right? I feel this article is
Brandon 33:37
written by a German person. Right? They're just real mad about Peter Jackson for some reason, nationalism,
33:44
German nationalism, because we know
33:46
how well that goes. I don't know how well that goes.
Collin 33:50
Just, I'm kind of thinking that maybe they like this was, is there? Is there is a seating is this trying to seed public opinion, because there's a lawsuit coming down the line of something. Like, I just feel like,
Brandon 34:04
oh no. Well, again, this was, this was like, some random website. It wasn't like a even, like, I know something I don't even know. Like, I didn't, again, I didn't, like, save the link to this, because gross. But like, so it was just some like, random website
Tori L. 34:18
thing from somewhere. But like, it was just though i i wish
Brandon 34:25
i was shook. I was, as the children would say, I was shook. I did not know what to do with his information. It was so bad, right? Like, just aghast, because, like, I said, Never did I think, did a person like this could actually be real? Yeah, right. Like, who would actually think that? You know, like, that doesn't seem feasible. To me, it's not to do that, you know, it's pretty, pretty bad. Yeah, yes. So they go,
Collin Funkhouser 35:14
Well, that's infuriating. I need to go something.
Brandon 35:21
Yes, it's, it's quite bad. That's right. Well, thank you. Thank you for looking at those. And so I didn't have to, yeah, burning my red nose.
Brandon 35:34
So I don't have anything else this week, I dug holes. Oh, it was great. We haven't even looked at the rocks yet, so like but
Tori L. 35:41
it was cold. Oh, big holes, cold.
Collin 35:45
I did so real quick before we dive in here, we did go to our tuba Christmas.
Brandon 35:49
Oh, yes, yes, okay,
Collin 35:51
and so, in honor of tuba Christmas, I have some jokes.
35:56
Oh yes, let's go little brass jokes.
36:03
How does a sheep count?
Brandon 36:07
I don't know. Collin one tuba.
36:13
Okay, how do you fix a broken tuba? I don't know tuba glue.
Collin 36:27
And as a brass player, you know that with all those mouth germs and stuff, whenever you are done playing, you need to go home and brush your teeth. And what are you going to reach for?
36:38
Brandon, I don't know. Collin, what am I gonna reach for a
36:42
tuba, toothpaste? Oh, man, that's, that's, we'll just stop there. Oh, sorry, I
Collin 36:59
have another one for you. Last one, last one. You're not sorry. Don't lie down. This is great. I wrote these down on purpose.
Collin Funkhouser 37:09
What do you call it? Tuba that's made of wood. I don't know a tuba for
Collin 37:22
there's so good. Yeah, Tuba jokes. It was wonderful. It was again, like perfect, like again. Holiday season, people go watch. We had so the record was for was 840 some odd tubas playing, oh, this, this,
37:47
we had 430
Brandon 37:49
okay, like, halfway there, like, still a lot of tuba. That is, that is a great many tuba, yes.
37:58
So it's,
Collin 38:00
it was, it was good. The people behind us were players last year, and they didn't have time to practice and get registered, so, like, they were there, and so I was having a conversation with them about the lackluster costumes and decorations that people had put on their tubas this year. Oh no, yes. It was really funny, because she was like, she was like, What the heck, why? Where's all the wrapping? You have so much room for wrapping paper people. I was like, feet of tubing. Was like, there is so many things. But I will say this year a lot of people had, like, battery powered Christmas lights on theirs, although last year, one of the players had inserted like an entire small Christmas tree into the bell of his tuba. It was, it was, it had decorations and lights on it. That was my favorite. Oh my gosh. It was, was very happy about
Brandon 38:55
tuba is already not unwieldy enough that you must then stick a tree atop it. Yes.
39:03
It was great, yeah.
Collin 39:08
And the the longest traveled person there to play in this was from North Carolina. Oh, wow. The youngest person playing was 10, and the oldest person, sorry, 11, the oldest person playing was is 95
Tori L. 39:27
Yes, so that's pretty cool.
Brandon 39:30
Okay, so I do know that like this is a thing that like lot, not like lots, but this is a thing that happens in a lot. Do you think there are people that like travel and do, like, multiple tuba Christmases per year in like, different states, like North Carolina. Guy, do you think he was doing like, his own little mini tour? Like, I'm gonna go to Kansas City. I'm gonna go to, like, Cleveland. I don't know where else that does it. But like, you know, like, I would
Collin 39:57
not be surprised, especially because you. I could imagine them going and playing like, in the tuba Christmas at where they went to college, or, you know, like if they if their college has played, like, go being back to their alma mater to play, and then going to other large ensembles to be part of that. I definitely think that that would be something that some people do this one again, they reach out to like all of the surrounding area, schools and colleges and things like that. And then again, people travel from states away for this, which is just
Collin Funkhouser 40:33
insanity, but they
Collin 40:39
claim that they are the tuba Christmas capital of the world.
Brandon 40:43
Oh, that is a bold claim. Well, one that I am in a position to challenge because I have no idea other.
Collin 40:54
This is the thing. I mean what? No other people have attempted to go for the tuba record. And this is also, like, one of the most long standing things. Oh, we also learned, I learned why tuba Christmas is a thing.
Brandon 41:10
Now this is good. Okay, here we go. The kind of news listeners tune in for right here. Yes, so history lessons with Collin Yes,
41:23
in 1974
Collin 41:28
a guy named, not a guy, okay, a tuba player called Harvey Phillips was and he was. Where did he was the two the principal tubas tuba ist at some, I forget, some school where he was teaching, and he was part of this Philharmonic, or whatever, he started tuba Christmas, because his teacher and the person who came before him, William J Bell, was born on Christmas in like 1900 so William J Bell, like, basically, was the first virtuoso of the tuba,
Collin 42:06
and was the one who really made the instrument something special and more than just like an oompa thing. One of his students, Harvey Phillips, started tuba Christmas in 1974 to honor his teacher. And so now all players like, that's their lineage, kind of like reaching back to 1900 to honor
Tori L. 42:29
William J Bell. Oh, well, okay,
Brandon 42:35
the William J Bell Memorial, tuber tuber Christmas. We got a bit of a mouthful, but I think we're working.
Collin 42:41
I will be, yeah, be, I will be linking to tuba Christmas calm too, but I had, because they did, they didn't do that last year where they gave a little bit of history. So that was fun. And then there's also history online that you can can read through this, but
Tori L. 43:02
it's pretty neat, yeah, and
43:04
so what was also fun was
43:08
in the audience. So like,
Collin 43:11
Bell 1900 or 1902 when everyone he was born, then Phillips, and then in the audience. And one of the guys conducting, like, has direct connection to that guy. So it was like this, just three jumps, you know, all the way back to this thing. So this guy, neat.
Tori L. 43:29
That's pretty cool, yes. So that's,
43:34
that's your history that you don't
Collin 43:36
you're not going to learn that on your video, right? No, that's not.
Brandon 43:42
No. Cards, okay,
Collin 43:45
come here, exactly which, which I know internet is alive and well, ah, which? One more thing, one more thing I know. I know how much you love AI. I I, I gave AI our, our website. And I said, scan this. Scan this website. And I want you to tell me about the brand of this. And so here we go. Here are, here are the three brand
Brandon 44:16
values that it picked up. Oh, perfect. Okay, this is a lot of text for it to read through. So it's gonna be good. Okay, this is
Collin 44:23
three brand values, and I'll do brand values, brand esthetic and brand voice.
Brandon 44:28
There you go. So it ate through our like transcriptions and everything.
Collin 44:32
It ate through, yeah, I all the most recent ones, and then read like our about, which isn't very much, but like this, it picked up on this in the descriptions of everything. So okay, it said aren't. So these are in no particular order, but
44:47
brand values continuity and our stick sticking to it. Okay?
Collin 44:55
Another brand value was shared enthusiasm. AK. A nerd mode,
Brandon 45:02
wow. I was
45:04
like, okay, easy there. Easy, yeah, easy computer.
45:10
Third one here is
Collin 45:13
professional development and continuing education. Whoops, but our brand
Tori L. 45:22
esthetic is casual, light hearted, whimsical
45:29
and minimalist. There we go.
Brandon 45:32
I'm definitely not a minimalist. Well, maybe that's just the website design feature. I think that's website design. We gotta go for the UI, right? That's fine. Yes, yep, look at that, Collin,
45:42
we're whimsical, whimsical, whimsical.
Brandon 45:45
Could have guessed. I love this whimsy, whimsy.
Collin Funkhouser 45:53
Oh my gosh. And then our, our, our brand tone, our brand voice is casual, witty, conversational, anecdotal and self aware. I mean,
Brandon 46:11
that definitely tracks Yes, yes. There you go. So, wow, judged, and
46:30
you know, so it's pretty good.
Brandon 46:33
My bad it is pretty on track, yeah. So, all right, yes, very good, interesting,
Collin 46:39
yeah, anyway, anyway. What triggered that was, I had done that on a lark, and then you had said, like, where else are you going to learn that? And I was like, Oh, yes, actually, continuing
Brandon 46:50
education, yeah, obviously it didn't pick up the part that we moan about, doing those things all the time. You know, it's fine, it's fine. It's okay,
47:02
yeah, we'll be okay.
Brandon 47:06
Strike that one through. We'll put the rest of that on the boom,
Tori L. 47:11
yes. So there you go.
Brandon 47:17
Nice. Let's see what chapter did we start with here.
Brandon 47:31
You would think that one day, one day, I'm gonna remember to put two bookmarks in this book one day. But it is not this.
Speaker 4 47:40
I Where
Brandon 47:44
were we on seven? Is that where we were day, right? I will admit, encounter some struggling with, wading through whatever the heck Dickens was talking about. Oh, my goodness, a couple of these chapters, right? Seven was like, I'm mostly chapter seven, I think, right, it was quite just like,
Tori L. 48:06
Guys, come on. It was, I don't,
48:17
I don't know about this one.
Collin 48:20
I mean, it starts off in a very, I mean, in a very,
Collin Funkhouser 48:25
very sad place
Collin 48:28
where he can't even read the gravestones of his family. Yes, you know, like, which is, which is really like that that certainly hits you in all the fields of and he doesn't even understand what's going on, right? Wife of the Above, as he thought it was a complimentary reference to my father's, you know, exaltation to a better world, and how he's just like, he has no concept of this and their meaning, and he can't even understand what's going on.
Tori L. 49:00
Yeah, yeah, right. And it's just,
Brandon 49:04
yeah, it's pretty he's down, right? So he's trying to work. He's practicing his alphabet like his uncle is helping him by yelling math facts at him. I guess I don't really know, not particularly helpful. Yeah, that was Major. But like, you know, he's giving you a shot. He's like, memorizing math things, you know,
Tori L. 49:31
and but
Brandon 49:33
you know. So he's feeling pretty down about this whole thing. But once again, Joe is basically just like, well, you're doing better than me, so I think you're right.
Collin 49:43
Oh, my goodness, yes. And that entire conversation between him and Joe was also very like, Did yours? How did your your book present the letter that he wrote to Joe, I.
Brandon 50:00
I did have it. It's written here with, like, mixed capital and standard notation, like lowercase and uppercase, but there's also letters and what numbers I mean in there, yes, right. So it's, it's like, all phonetically spelled out, right,
Tori L. 50:21
like my dear Joe is
Brandon 50:23
m, I, D, E, R, J, O,
Tori L. 50:27
you know, yeah.
Brandon 50:29
So that's yeah. It's written out phonetically. This looks like things that I get turned into me sometimes you were quite this bad, not quite this
50:40
bad, but like, oh yeah, his tracks is fine,
Tori L. 50:44
yes, and,
Collin Funkhouser 50:46
and he talks about how, like, excited Joe is for him by this and. But then there's this weird transition, because Joe, we quickly realize Joe can't read either. No, he can't.
Collin 51:05
And I love it says, says I had never heard Joe read aloud to any greater extent than this monosyllable. And I had observed at church last Sunday when I accidentally held our prayer book upside down that seemed to suit his convenience quite as well as if it had been all right? And so Joe is, Pip is starting to realize that there's a discrepancy here between him and Joe. But Joe's, like, really enthusiastic for PIP and very excited for PIP through this whole thing is being, like, being a cheerleader about this.
Tori L. 51:37
Yes. So, like,
Brandon 51:40
yeah, he's like, again, it's kind of like, this thing where, like, Pip is upset and sad, and Joe's like, Nah, pretty good to me. Yeah, he was pretty good. It's pretty uncommon, right? And he has a little thing here where he's talking about, like, well, you know, you got to start somewhere. Like, you know, you can't just, like, start off and be great at it. You got to start here, and then you work up, and then you get better. And it's fine, right? Like, blah, blah, you know, that's kind of what he's telling him here. But the real, kind of insane part is when I can't find it out, when he's talking about, don't let your sister see you doing that, right? She doesn't like an educated person, right? Yeah, because, basically she Joe isn't playing that. The the sister doesn't like doesn't want you to be educated because you'll be too uppity, right? And you won't, right? You're easier to she's going to keep you down, like she wants you to be uneducated so she can keep her foot on you, right? This is totally not a metaphor for anything at all.
Tori L. 52:54
It's fine. Like, like, I
Collin Funkhouser 53:00
think this is where he said, What did he say?
Collin 53:05
Oh, gosh, where he talks about, oh, given she's your sister's given to government, yeah, I think it's a bit more on the nose here than you was it
Brandon 53:14
a bit being, well, not a metaphor at all, but yeah, she basically says, like, he says, oh, yeah, you know, don't do that, because otherwise, you know she, she wants you to, she wants to be able to control you because she wants to, like, if you learn this for yourself, she can't have control over You. Yeah, right, which is a metaphor for the Victorian Government and potentially the current government here, but
Collin 53:49
we'll never know, allegedly, wink, and this comes after Joe has given a very heart wrenching story as to why he never went to school, right? Yeah. Like, that's the other part too, of like, Joe doesn't really have any misgivings about this. It's just very plain to him that he couldn't go and that's just how it is, and he has a wife that loves him how he is, and it's just that simple to him, but in the middle of it, while he's dictating of like this rough childhood that he had and how he couldn't go and how it was kind of back and forth between his mom and his dad that even in that, Joe is really proud of What he wanted to put on his dad's headstone like he couldn't afford to have that put in right where he said, you know, whatever you were going to do, and things on his part, what said whatsoever, the things, the failings on his part. Remember, reader, he were that good in his heart. He puts together this little. Poem for his dad.
Brandon 55:01
And it's, yeah, he came up with it all by himself, all by himself, proud of it, right?
Tori L. 55:06
Yes, so yeah.
Collin Funkhouser 55:11
And he talks about how it just kind of it was like forging a horseshoe for him to make that.
Collin 55:19
It was just kind of like one beat and getting it out of him. So it's just, I don't know, I I'm not entirely sure what to do with this dialog between Joe and pip in this moment, but you definitely see Joe like he's still, he really is rooting for PIP to be better and to do more than what,
Tori L. 55:39
than what he's done. Yes, yeah, he definitely, he's definitely on Pip's
Brandon 55:44
side here, he's, he's, like, his little cheerleader kind of, you know,
Tori L. 55:49
so that is
Brandon 55:51
here, and then, and then, like, we have this moment, and then that we can hear the the cart coming home. Yes, because, because Mrs. Joe. It's also interesting that we never get her name so far, right? We just, like his own sister, we just call her Mrs. Joe, which is
Tori L. 56:12
kind of weird, like
Brandon 56:15
she's clearly in charge or anything, but she doesn't even get her own name. And awkward, but she goes to town with the good old Uncle pumblechook. Yes, you know, being a bachelor and reposing no confidence in his domestic servant, he takes her to market instead so she can, just like, help him buy stuff for his house. This is great, yeah,
56:46
Victorian England, yes, exactly.
Collin 56:53
This her coming home. It was very confusing, and I had to read some things a couple different times to be like, Did I misunderstand something? Or is this just a confusing and I recognize, like it was written to be confusing, to show the confusion
Brandon 57:10
is confused, and yes, you reader are also confused, right? Yes, but yeah, Joe is like, really, Joe and paper just like, Huh? Right? Like, what? Like, this whole exchange, like, are you talking about the part where she's, he's like, Well, she ain't in that line. And, you know, blah, blah that he won't be, you know, Pompeii. And, you know, she knows better, Pippa, Joe's just like, she who is? Who are you talking about? What is going on?
Collin Funkhouser 57:38
Yes, what is, what is the one of the world? Yes, yep. And he's like, she,
Collin 57:45
I looked at Joe. She, my sister catching me in the act. She drew the back of the hand across his nose as his util conciliary. And then she's like, oh yeah. He says, um, What? What? Some individual you mentioned she. And she goes, and she is a she, I suppose, unless you call Miss Havisham a he, and I doubt even if you would go as far to do that, it's like, oh, okay, now we're getting some context here, because you, you were, you came in the middle of a conference, you were still having a conversation, and we had no context,
Brandon 58:12
yeah, and so this whole, this whole thing, is very weird, right? This random person wants PIP to go play at her house, right? And that's odd, but you know, Uncle here is like, well, obviously, is the facilitator of this, because he knows her
58:43
rent, yeah,
Brandon 58:46
the air quotes, knows her, knows her, knows of her. And so apparently, it has come to pass that she wants a boy to come play at her house, which is a very weird sentence to utter Indeed,
Tori L. 59:05
yes, yes.
Collin 59:09
And I'll also add that during this discourse, we're getting pips, interjections about a comment, running commentary about what's going on, because his his his sister says, then mention this boy standing prancing here, and then it goes to pip, which he goes, which I solemnly declare I was not doing.
Collin 59:33
That happens a few more times, and I just love that little like, we get that PIP being
59:39
like, actually, no,
59:40
that's not what's going on.
Brandon 59:46
There's some pretty funny parts there, but so we have to, and also this kind of the very end of this scene was also kind of funny, because she's like, she's like, he's got to go right now. Good Lord, he's a mess. And so she, like. Like with that, she pounced on me like an eagle on a lamb, and my face was squeezed into wooden bowls and sinks, and my head was put under the taps and water bullets, and I was soaked and kneaded and toweled and thumped and Harrowed and rasped until I really was quite beside myself.
Collin 1:00:15
And then I love the parenthetical here where he ends. I highlighted this. Yes, this is great.
Brandon 1:00:24
I may hear remarks that I suppose myself to be better acquainted with any living authority, with the rigid effect of a wedding ring passing unsympathetically over the human countenance.
Collin 1:00:41
And I did, I did have a flash to being really young and having Mimi like, try and shampoo our hair and using her fingernails in our hair. Was she was, I don't know if she ever did this to you, but when
Collin 1:00:59
she would do I remember very distinctly being younger and her being like, I will wash your hair because you are a boy and you will not wash your hair. And I know that, and so I have to help you with okay, it's fair, fair me, me and her using her fingernails to like grape. So that was my first thing of like, Oh, poor, poor pip in the wedding ring, going back and forth.
Brandon 1:01:22
I thought about whenever, there was at least one time that I remember very distinctly that I was being a smart aleck, I know shocking, and she, like, did that thing where she like, like, whacked you. You know, it's like, backing you, like, but she hadn't taken her jewelry off yet, and she clocked me, like, right in the face,
1:01:42
so bad. And she was
Speaker 3 1:01:48
like, What are you crying for? Even baby, and it's like, jewelry. She was like, Oh, you take your ring off, yet, clunks me right. Oh gosh, hurt. Okay.
Brandon 1:02:06
But now anyway, we're getting this weird thing here, and we're just, like, in the middle of the night, we're just getting rushed off to we're going to uncle's house so that we can go to Miss Havisham, just in the morning, right? But like, I just like, the end, we end on, like, the questions, why on earth I was going to play in Miss havershams and What on earth was I expected to play at? This is my same question, same PIP as well. What the heck?
1:02:39
What is going it's
1:02:41
going on. It's so weird.
Brandon 1:02:43
Yes, this week, like, I couldn't really become motivated to read the beginning part of it. Oh, and then the end was just, like, the end was, I think I really feel like a lot of these chapters, they like, start very slow, and then by the end, they're good, but like, there's this big, like, build up and kind of like, blah at the beginning, it goes on and on and on and on and on and then,
Tori L. 1:03:14
and then it's fine, right?
Brandon 1:03:16
But sometimes, like, getting into them, like, it's hard to read in a flow with some of these. You know, like it's very difficult for me to sit down and read, like there's like two chapters at once. And maybe potentially, this is the part of the side effect of writing these weekly in a periodical, right? Yep, Susan also had a theory about this. She's much more Dickensian scholar than I am. She was, she was, she was wondering if, like, the reason some of it feels like overwritten is because you have to remember what you read last week, right? Yeah, so you kind of have to make it like a big deal that kind of stays with you, and then you're reading next week, you can remember it like it's easier to remember what happened before, sure, because it is so verbose, right? And like, like that, that was her take on this, which I found very interesting, yeah?
Collin 1:04:13
Basically saying, well, the more that's there, the more likely you are to remember the story at all? Yeah, yeah,
Tori L. 1:04:21
that makes sense, yeah.
Brandon 1:04:24
But this one again, the beginning of this drags because we're with uncle, and we're just going around
Collin 1:04:29
well and and you immediately see just how boring and dull This is with Pip's interjection of where he says, I wondered whether the flower seeds and bulbs ever wanted of a fine day to break out of those jails in bloom. Basically, here he is commenting how stagnant everything is.
Brandon 1:04:48
His uncle. Uncle owns a shop too, right? And so they go to the shop also. And I did like the part where it's like, nothing is happening, and he's like, you know? Mr. Pumblechook appeared to conduct his business by looking across the street at the Saddler, who appeared to try to transact his business by keeping his eye on the coachmaker, who appeared to get in on the life by putting his hands in his pockets and contemplating the baker who in turn holding his arms and stared at the grocer who stood at his door and yawned, the chemist, the watchmaker, always pouring over his little desk with a magnifying glass at his eye and always inspected by a group of mocked frocks pouring over him through the glass of his shop window, seemed to be about the only person on the high street whose trade encouraged his attention.
Collin 1:05:37
Again, nobody else is even interested in their own work. They're always wondering what Yeah, people doing that's
Brandon 1:05:45
getting out the window, right? You know, it's like the old ladies of the neighbor just keeping watch and everything, you know. But again, that is a very memorable scene that you said, Yes. Is it potentially useful for the story, no, but you are nope,
Collin 1:06:04
nope, because then we go right into, I think this is where he's doing the he's drilling into him the
Brandon 1:06:14
the times table, yeah, or whatever. Like, yes, it's so he just, like, he's arithmetic, right? He just starts yelling at him about, like, vigorously yelling about the Yeah, on on my politely bidding him Good morning, he said pompously, seven times nine. Boy,
1:06:35
okay, and he just does that.
Brandon 1:06:38
Yes, I did like his response, though, and how should I be able to answer dodged, dodged in that way, in a strange place and on an empty stomach, right? I was hungry,
1:06:48
makes sense.
Tori L. 1:06:51
So anyway,
Brandon 1:06:53
so now we're starting for a misinterpret. We
Tori L. 1:06:55
go yes, yeah. And so this is a name that I've heard before, right? Because this
Brandon 1:07:03
is like a famous, like character in this book, I guess, yes, because I've heard the name Miss Havisham before, but, uh, I had no context whatsoever to go with the name, right? Just the name, and so I really didn't know what to expect. But good gravy. It was not this, no, no. Weirdest, the weirdest sequence of events I think I've ever read,
Collin 1:07:33
ever this was so pulling up to the old brick, dismal, iron bars. Everything's walled up like, like, it's a, it's basically a fortress at this point, and it's dilapidated. It's falling apart. It was a brewery at some point, right?
Brandon 1:07:52
Like, it has a brewery attached to it, like part of it, it was a brewery because it's, like, a big estate thing, right? It's kind of what I'm the vibe we're getting here, yes, and
Tori L. 1:08:03
so we're Yes, it's
Brandon 1:08:05
this big thing. And we learned, like, kind of, through this going on, that, like, people don't actually meet Mrs. Havisham, right? Like she is a recluse, and so, like, you can talk to her, but it's usually by her little servant lady bringing you to the door. Oh, and you just talk through the door at her.
Collin 1:08:27
I love this interaction between the girl and pumblechook, where he said he went out. So she PIP comes in, and pumblechook acts as though he's starting to step into the gate, and the colt screws. Yeah. She goes, oh, did you wish to see Miss Havisham? He goes, Well, if Habersham wish to see me. And she goes, Ah, but she does not, no.
Brandon 1:09:00
I what on earth? And so we're going this lady, what's her name? Name? Her name, Elisa. Oh, yeah. Is that her name? Just more time to the house.
Tori L. 1:09:21
Wait, wait, Okay, keep going. Hold on. Anyway, it's gotta be on this page. Where's she at?
1:09:35
Towards the end. Here we go.
Brandon 1:09:37
Towards the end. Anyway, we'll get it. We'll find it a minute.
1:09:40
Oh, Estella, Estella, right?
Brandon 1:09:43
So Estella leads him through the house, and it's just dark, right? Yes, dark. It's blue. No lights anywhere. So she just walks around with a candle. And this is like really freaking pit back, because he can't see where he's going. But he, like, is scared to follow her, but he also is scared to laugh. Behind because he can't find his way through the house, because she has a candle, right? And she it's kind of a jerk to him, right? Like, she's really hateful. It's like looking down on him, like, like, who are you? Why are you here?
Tori L. 1:10:15
And we get to the room, yeah.
Collin 1:10:21
Well, she they get to the room, and she goes, go in. And he goes after you miss trying to be polite. And she goes like, no, don't be ridiculous. Boy, I'm not going in. And then she just left, and she took her candle, so he's standing in the stock also, he had to go in.
Brandon 1:10:40
And we go in and we see we are
Tori L. 1:10:45
presented with Miss Habersham, who, well,
Brandon 1:10:53
she appear right a time has appeared to stop in the room, basically, is what's happening here. So we can make a lot of assumptions about what has occurred here, but basically, this is a woman who is sitting at a table. She's mostly dressed in a white gown, which I assume we can we can infer some sort of wedding dress, right? But she is not all the way dressed like one shoe is off when she was on. And we basically can infer that in preparation for said wedding, some sort of tragedy has occurred where, clearly her dearly beloved died suddenly, and she has just been here in this room, in this
Tori L. 1:11:47
time warp,
Brandon 1:11:50
ever since, and it is infer that it is quite a while ago. I know that Victorian had some weird rules about mourning, but this seems a bit intense, well, and even gone outside in years, like what she said.
Collin 1:12:05
She does say that later. And what's interesting is, as he's walking in, he's describing everything that he's seeing at first glance, right? And he sees the gloves and the flowers and the this and the that, and then there's this transition that he says it was not in the first few moments that I saw all these things, though I saw several more. And then he starts to go describe how everything is off, and particularly off white, right? Everything is because it's yellow, aged and faded, and that the bride with the bridal dress had withered like the dress, and now the watch wasn't even correct. And like, he's comparing these two bones and skeletons and like, old wax, ghastly figures that he's like, everything just is just looks off. And he said, seemed skeleton to me, to have dark eyes looked around. And I should have cried out if I could. And then she speaks to him, and it's just, it's just, you're right, like, it's just saying, like, everything has stopped and and and is aged and is just like, and I think that also speaks to what happened here, whenever he's painting this picture of the the skeletons and of the church and wax and all this stuff, was like, this is a place of death around him right now.
Tori L. 1:13:21
Yeah, it's yes and suspension, yeah, because
Brandon 1:13:27
it's just like, literally, time has stopped. Yes, again, a bit on the nose here. But like, all the watches and clocks are stopped at the same time, you know? So this is weird, and she just wants, she's taking a fancy and she she's bored because she just sits in here all the time. So, you know, fair. But she wanted to watch somebody play a game and play right? Because she, herself, apparently, is unable to make Mary, and so she wants to see somebody play. And he's like, he's just so confused. And also, you know, fair, yeah, weird that he doesn't know what to do. Like, he's like, I would want to. He's like, I'm very sorry for you, and I'm very sorry I can't play just now. Like, I just can't do, yep, because it's well, he says, If you complain of me, I shall get into trouble with my sister. So I would do it if I could. But it's so new here, so strange, so fine, it's and melancholy. I stopped fearing. I said, I've said too much, right? But you know, really, she says her response is so new to him, yet so old to me, so strange to him, yet so familiar to me, so melancholy to us both. Mm. Hmm, bang. And it's holler for a Stella, come here. Yeah. So they decide they're gonna play cards, right? And she's like, why when I play cards with him? And she's like, Just do it. But he only knows some sort of mysterious game called
Tori L. 1:15:23
beggar my neighbor, which I don't know what that is.
Brandon 1:15:28
Hopefully it's not like that awful game that Mimi used to play, that I lost that every time and I didn't like it all. But this is a family show. I can't say that name, but sounds like it probably is, actually, it might be, I don't know, I don't play the game. Wouldn't be as exciting with two people. But yeah, so she basically, like destroys him in this card game, while trash talking him, yeah, while trash talking him. And she's very distressed that he calls naves jacks. You know, this is upsetting her very, you know, so low class of him. And we get this repeating motif of, like, his boots are too thick and his hands too rough. And this, like, very distresses him a lot, right? Like he, well, we'll talk more about that later, but this, like, sticks with him. Like he is very upset by this, and it's even worse, because he thinks that she's really cute and like, he doesn't know how to deal with this situation, right? Because, right, when he's talking to Ms habership Afterwards, he's like, whispering to her what he's feeling. And she's like, you don't say anything to them. You just tell me in my ear. And he says, I think she's very proud and very pretty and very insulting, and I would like to go home.
Collin 1:16:53
And she's like, Oh, you don't want to see her again, even though she's pretty. And he's like, I'm not sure, but I'd like to go home.
Brandon 1:17:00
Yeah. I was like, I'm not sure that I wouldn't like to see her again, but I should like to go home now. And she's like, okay, soon play another game and so
Collin Funkhouser 1:17:10
and and in
Collin 1:17:11
this you can tell where his direction really is, and probably why he's also losing a this is really weird. He's really transfixed by Mr. Havisham here because, oh yeah, he describes her like, prior to this, he describes her sitting there like a corpse. Now he's sitting there like drooped, watchful, brooding, most likely when all things that her about her had become transfixed and looks like she could ever, as if nothing could ever lift her again. She just like, settled in and becomes immobile and there and, and it's like, just how locked and and stopped in time, like even she is trying to be,
Brandon 1:17:51
yeah, yeah. It's very, it's very weird, right? So anyway they go, they leave, they set an appointment because he's coming back, right? But she's like, I don't use clocks, obviously. So she's like, come back in six days. And he's like, oh, okay, okay, that's fine, whatever. But again, on the way out, she has to wait. Estella tells him to wait by the door because she's got to go open something or whatever. He said. I took this opportunity of being alone in the courtyard to look at my coarse hands and my common boots. My opinion of these accessories was not favorable. They had never troubled me before, but they troubled me now as vulgar appendages. Right? I determined to ask Joe why he had ever taught me to call these picture cards jacks, which ought to be called names. I wish Joe had rather been more genteelly brought up and that I should have been so too Right? Like he's now very aware, like again, he was a he was never really aware of being such a common person before, because he had never interacted with anybody outside of his own social class, right? Really, he's just, you know, hanging out in the little whatever with Joe and Mrs. Joe and the convicts, I guess, I don't know. And like, there's never, really, he doesn't have anything to compare himself to, right? And so he was very content, and, you know, he was happy, okay? But now, now that he has been exposed to and interacted with people of a different social standing than him, now he feels bad about his own now he feels self conscious about himself. This is a story about grilling cheese in an air fryer versus on a stovetop, right? That's right, this is what's happening, okay?
Collin 1:19:40
Or feeling bad about that you're middle class on an airplane, yeah,
Collin Funkhouser 1:19:44
right. Like this
Brandon 1:19:46
is again, right? How things have not changed since 1850 Right, right? Like you're just living your life happy, right? You see some crazy, weird Jack buff Jim bro dude on in. Instagram now you feel bad about yourself. Well, you shouldn't feel bad about yourself, because that means on steroids. Okay, don't feel bad about
1:20:06
yourself, right?
Collin 1:20:07
And then some comes, someone comes along and looks at you, yeah? What was this? Um, looks at you, um, as if an insulin as insolently as if I were a dog in disgrace.
Brandon 1:20:20
Yeah. I was so humiliated, hurt, spurned, offended, angry, sorry. I cannot hit upon the right name for the smart, right? He's also, he also can't put a name to this feeling that he's having. He's vexing him also, yes, he has a feeling, but he doesn't really know what to call it,
Tori L. 1:20:36
right? But he's,
Brandon 1:20:39
if I believe what he might be stretching towards inadequate, yes, insecure, insecure, right? So again, interesting, how the times they don't change? No, yeah.
Collin 1:20:51
And what's interesting here is that he goes and he does cry. He does cry and kick the wall, and then he had this, this statement where he said my sister's bringing up had made me sensitive.
Tori L. 1:21:04
Now that's not what I would
Brandon 1:21:07
have gone to first from being reared up by hand at all.
Collin Funkhouser 1:21:13
You know, yes, like
Collin 1:21:15
you would think that he would point like this is not where he would be pointing to, but what he points to maybe self conscious, maybe self conscious, or, as he phrases it, injustice, yeah, the injustice of how what she does to him was in in just an unfair every single one of these had no purpose, no meaning. He did nothing wrong, and yet he was still punished. And he's now likening this to what Estella is done of He's done nothing wrong. He's he's been no offense here, and yet he's been made to feel like he's he needs to be punished for who he is and how he
Tori L. 1:21:56
is, yeah. So yeah, which is, again, it's very weird, right? Pretty weird.
Brandon 1:22:07
Yeah, he has this little moment here, and he's, he's gone home or back to
Collin 1:22:12
uncle's house, well, right? First off, he plays around yard. Oh yeah. He's like, Oh yeah, I forgot what's part two. And like, he's playing around, and he keeps seeing her around too, but they don't interact anymore. And then he has a weird vision.
Brandon 1:22:26
Is she really there, right? Like, that's the part that this part's weird, because it's like,
Tori L. 1:22:30
he sees her, but like, I don't
Brandon 1:22:34
think that's her, but like, I don't know what's happening, like,
Collin 1:22:38
because then, then he thinks he sees a swinging Mrs. Havisham up in the rafters of the brewery.
Collin Funkhouser 1:22:44
And that's weird too. Like, what is weird? What's what's that about? Right?
Brandon 1:22:51
Like, yes, yeah. I don't know. This whole section is real weird. It's like, Oh, whoops, papers in the shining for like a page and a half, we just blipped.
Collin 1:22:59
We're just in and out real fast. People just keep moving. Never mind. Never you mind. And then it's gonna go back. We're back in the frosty
Brandon 1:23:05
light and the cheerful sky and the people passing beyond the bars with the courtyard gate.
Tori L. 1:23:13
So I don't, I really
Brandon 1:23:14
have absolutely no idea what that section is supposed to be about. Like, I don't know if this is just like, Dickens weird obsession with ghosts showing up. Because he does have a weird obsession with ghosts all the time, right? I mean, so like, I have, I have no idea what this is supposed to be. When I was reading this, I was just going,
1:23:37
what the heck? What is going on, yeah?
Brandon 1:23:42
Like, he just had this, like, weird, like, dream sequence where I don't know, like, it was so weird, like, I, yeah,
Collin 1:23:54
it's, it doesn't, I don't. I'm interested to see again. Like, what, what happens here? Because we haven't had this kind of supernatural we've had. We've had playful imagination. We haven't had, did I see a ghost or, like, what is this?
Brandon 1:24:09
But yeah, like, various just his like, his mental state of like, distress is like, that makes him imagine these things. Like, because he's chasing Estella, but he like, can't catch her, right? Because he says, You know, I saw her walking them at the end of the yard. I don't think she's actually doing this. This seems like a whimsical, fun thing. She doesn't seem like a whimsical, fun person. So, like, I don't think that was her. So he's like, envision, it's kind of like he's chasing after her, but he's like, so far away and out of her league, or whatever he like, can't catch up. And then I don't really know what this missed having some dangling thing is supposed to be about, because that's real weird. Yeah, it's very odd.
Collin 1:24:54
And so then you're right, he just like, again, I don't know how this is going to circle back around, but he then leaves. This chapter ends in like the most depressing way, because he's I set off on the four mile walk to our four it's pondering as I went along on all I had seen and deeply revolving that I was a common laboring Boy, that my hands were coarse, that my boots were thick, that I had fallen into a despicable habit of calling knaves jacks, obviously, and that I was much more ignorant than I had considered myself last night. So we have just stolen the happy moment that we had had with Joe, right? Yeah, it's gone now, right? Gone, gone. And generally that I was in a low, lived, bad way, like, yeah, just like all that stuff torn away from him, this relationship with Joe, because at the end of that, he had these, like, big willing, these wonderful feelings for Joe. Now he's, he like, he now has misgivings against Joe. He's got questions for Joe. Joe is like, it's torn hit, torn Joe down from the pillar that he was on right? Like, yeah, because now he's he's questioning Joe, why didn't you make me better when previously he was like, Joe's amazing. He loves Yeah. And now, like, how insidious
Collin Funkhouser 1:26:11
this whole thing is.
Brandon 1:26:14
Yeah, it's very Yes, it's yeah, it's messed up. And then, once again, another weird interaction when we reach home,
Tori L. 1:26:24
because, like, right?
Brandon 1:26:29
He decided, like, I felt convinced that if I just because they want to know, like, everyone wants to know, obviously. So when I say everyone, I mean Mr. Pumblechook and Mrs. Joe, you know, I felt convinced that if I had described Miss havisham's As my eyes had seen it, I should not be understood. Not only that, but I felt convinced that Miss Havisham too would not be understood. And although she was perfectly incomprehensible to me, I entertained an impression that there would be something coarse and treacherous in my dragging her as she really was, yeah, to say nothing of Mrs.
1:27:09
Stella. So he decides to just, like, make up stuff.
Brandon 1:27:14
We're just gonna wing it, right? And it's really funny too, because Mr. Public jugglers, like, goes along because it's like, he's like, Yeah, I've obviously seen her. I know exactly, but and then he's like, yeah, that's her to a T Absolutely, which sort of encourages PIP to just like, keep laying it on. Because he's like, Well, he obviously doesn't know either,
Collin 1:27:39
so it's gonna go for it, because nobody knows, and he's thrown out like dogs meat eating out of a silver basket of veal cutlets.
Brandon 1:27:46
She was sitting in a coach inside, eating eight in there, and like, yeah, it was just and
1:27:56
they were playing flags and swords.
Brandon 1:27:59
Yeah, I love how he does say a few things. Like, I thought about saying this, but I thought that might be going a little too far right. Like, right?
Collin 1:28:06
Because his sister's like, swords. Where'd you get swords from? And he's, like, out of a cupboard, yeah, I saw pistols, jams, pills, right? Yeah, it was all lit by candles, right? And everyone's like, Oh my goodness. And there's just enough truth here too. Like, it's all lit by candles, because then pumblechook's Like, yeah, that's right, that's right.
Brandon 1:28:23
It is dark in there, dark in there, right. Driving. He like, at first he says, like, she's a tall, dark lady. And he's like, Yep, she is. And that he means, like, all right, well, obviously he's never seen her, and so that's what, oh, the other thing here that I want to bring up is, like he was public. Chuck starts drilling him on his coinage, his conversions, yeah, his coin conversions. He's like, how much is 43 pence?
Tori L. 1:28:55
And I pimp has absolutely
Brandon 1:28:59
no idea. And to be fair, a Victorian English currency is quite incomprehensible, right, like, right, apparently, I looked at this up earlier. So I say this year we have a we have things like pounds, shillings, Pence, the sovereign, the six pence, the half crown, the half Penny, the Farthing. What, excuse me, huh? So, like a pound is apparently 20 shillings, which is 240
Tori L. 1:29:31
pence. What? Right,
Brandon 1:29:35
you know, like one shilling is 12 pence,
Tori L. 1:29:37
huh? A penny is,
Brandon 1:29:41
you know, like, what? What is going on? This is a Guinea is 21 shillings, what
1:29:48
it's like? Five
Brandon 1:29:50
shillings. Yeah, half Okay, so, yes, confusingly, a crown, five shillings, half crown, so that would be two shillings, six. Pence, what? A Florin? There's something called a Florin, which is two shillings, a six pence, three pence, right? Like a farthing, which is like a quarter pence, like, What?
Tori L. 1:30:15
What? What? So the fact that PIP cannot comprehend any of this unit conversion,
Brandon 1:30:23
I totally sympathize, because I have never fully understood what on earth they're talking about. Yes, it makes total sense. I just know that I am sixpence None the Richer. That's yeah, speaking of secure references, you're welcome. So this so again, we just, we're dragging on. He's just like painting this like fantastical thing that has occurred here, until Joe comes in and they start telling Joe about what PIP is said, Yeah. And now
Tori L. 1:31:07
Pip's like, Okay,
Brandon 1:31:09
well, I feel guilty about lying to Mrs. Joe or Mr. Publisher, but now I feel really super, mega guilty about lying to Joe, right? Like he feels like, very guilty and very distressed by this whole thing
Collin 1:31:23
well, and and two Joe, Mrs. Joe and pumblechook are thinking of, like, Oh, this is going to take him places. It's going to take him places. And Joe's just like, yeah, maybe he'll get a dog out of this, you know, like, this is, this is all just
1:31:40
ridiculous and fanciful, isn't it? Because it is ridiculous.
1:31:43
That's true, accurate.
1:31:50
But then he goes and he tries to talk to Joe, doesn't he?
Brandon 1:31:53
Yeah, he, like, confesses to him, and he's like, I can't believe you know. He's like, listen, like, listen, there's no, there's one thing you gotta he's like, Pip. He's like, only one thing I remember, namely lies, is lies, however they come. They don't ought to come. And they come from the father of lies, and work around to the same, right? So he's basically saying, Look, you know, it doesn't, it just don't lie. It's doesn't help anything doesn't work. It doesn't help anything. Doesn't make it better, right? It was Joe was, like, very cut and dry this whole situation, like he worked hard to tell the truth. Boom, done in a story
Collin Funkhouser 1:32:32
well, and what he
Collin 1:32:33
specifically, he says he here where he's like, yeah, he says, Don't tell him. No, no more of them, Pip. That ain't the way to get out of being common. Like he Yeah, he really picks up on that, that part of Yeah, he's upset about that, right? And he says, and as to being common, I don't make it out all clear. He's like, basically, he's like, I don't understand what you're talking about. You're uncommon in some things, you're uncommon and small, like you're uncommon. Scholar, like you're you are different. You don't why? Why is this where you need to be? Yeah, you feel inadequate about these things.
Brandon 1:33:08
Yeah. Why are you letting those people determine why? Why you should
Collin 1:33:11
feel bad, right? And this coming from again, like Joe, it's just like things are plain and straightforward, and Joe is very confident and comfortable with who he is as a person. And he's looking at PIP being like, why are you like you said, like, why are you letting people look down upon you in this way?
Tori L. 1:33:30
Yeah, yeah. So,
Brandon 1:33:35
yeah. And so he feels a little better after that. I think he's like, okay, yeah, I gotta be just myself, and that's good enough, right? That's basically what we thought it was, like, you are good enough. Yourself is good enough, right? It's like that SNL, get thing right there, like, I'm good enough,
1:33:49
I'm smart enough. Gosh darn it. People like people like me.
Collin 1:33:55
Uh huh, yeah. And then the same is, it ends with just again, more of a pep talk and encouragement from Joe about to pip
Brandon 1:34:05
Yeah, and I do like I fell asleep, recalling what I used to do when I was in mishappish, as though I had been there weeks or months instead of hours, and though it required an old subject of remembrance instead of one that had just had risen only
Collin 1:34:19
that it's like Looking back fondly now, right, looking back at all long, all those many minutes ago when I was there, right, right.
Brandon 1:34:29
What? What? Right we do. This is a important time, because this is a big, long, whatever that weird German word was that we talked about as a for a coming of age story. Right? The end of this chapter, right? Is very interesting, right? That was a like, how I can, like, read a Dickens paragraph, but it's actually just, like, one sentence, yeah, that was a memorable day for me. For it made great changes in me, but it is the same with any life. Imagine. One selected day stuck out of it. And then think about how different its course would have been. Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers that would never have bound you but for the formation of the first link on that one memorable day. Right? Once again, also I was thinking about, like, because Dickens, weird, obsessed with chains again, right? I just had to watch a Christmas carol the other day. So they have very in the mind, right? We have ghosts. We have chains, right? We're bound for all times, right? Like,
1:35:39
I forced the blink by link and yeah by link, right?
Brandon 1:35:42
Like, so we are right. This, this, whatever this event was, like, this day, with all its ups and downs and weirdness and strangeness and havershems and estella's and Joe's, right, whatever this is, this apparently is a critical day in the rest of Pip's life, yeah, right, which is the, you know, more of this book. So I'm assuming at some point we're going to, like, jump ahead somewhere, right? If this is, in fact, like, a whole coming of age story, we've already jumped ahead, like a randomly, like a year in here, somewhere, like, so we're gonna, I'm imagining there's gonna be some more, like, hops, maybe, yeah, we'll see. But, like, we'll see. But this, apparently, the meeting with Smith Haversham was impactful for a multitude of reasons. I imagine because so odd and like, Yeah, well,
Collin 1:36:39
and I think it mostly got him. He learned a lot about himself
Tori L. 1:36:43
today, yeah, yeah, but also
Brandon 1:36:47
it was real odd, real odd. So bizarre.
Brandon 1:36:59
Yep, there we go. Boom. We'll see what happens. We will next time. Tune in, next time, and for chapter 10, next 1011, and 12, I guess we'll see, yes, what on earth PIP could be getting up to and what could be going on. I'm assuming also, like he said, he's going back to miss Habersham. So I'm you know, and if this is a pivotal character in his life, I wonder how much more Miss Habersham we're going to get in this story. We shall wait and see very
Brandon 1:37:50
I do have a haiku for you.
1:37:53
Yes, I am right. I'm
Brandon 1:37:55
ready. I receive fired by the frozen planes of yesterday.
Speaker 4 1:38:01
You spade
Brandon 1:38:04
breaks the surface, revealing tales of Earth's past, long hidden from view.
1:38:11
Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
Brandon 1:38:21
Let's go. Like, we do have some fossil action occurring, right? We have to do some more cleaning tomorrow to, like, double check, but I well, for sure, I've already found a few. So this is good. It's perfect for what we have to talk about in our lesson. So commission, accomplished, Collin, good to go, excellent.
Collin 1:38:46
Well, I can't wait to hear what becomes of that then and how what else you find that'll be wonderful. Okay, well, and on that
Collin 1:38:59
will end Tonight. All right, okay, love you, love you. You.