beach the boat…upon the beach

Collin found the Dark Souls Stairs. Brandon brings a controversial hot take. And Jim??…oh Jim…

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podcast, beach, boat, fair, flies, conspiracy theories, building collapse, city drama, structural engineer, dry rot, asbestos, pirates, Hispaniola, Israel Hands, Captain Flint

SPEAKERS

Brandon, Collin

Collin  00:00

Foreign Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure things all out. Is your host, Brandon and Collin on this week's show, beach, the boat upon the beach. Ahoy. Ahoy. How's

Speaker 1  00:19

it going? Good. How are you

Collin  00:23

I am I'm, well, it is hot again. So terrible. Had our false fall part one for a couple days. Very nice, very nice. Waking up and it being

Speaker 1  00:37

like 78 degrees is not false. Oh, but waking up and it being 56 degrees.

Brandon  00:42

That's true. I'll take this not I'm just glad it was below 90 for a few days. That's very handy. Yes.

Collin  00:52

So happy. Yeah, yep. So that was good. We had some, had some nice days. Of course, it's, you know, 56 in the morning, and Megan. Megan walked out, pulled her hoodie around her closer and right in which fall is coming,

Brandon  01:13

and then trot across the floor and her mittens and mukluks right like yes, did curl under a wool blanket,

Collin  01:20

wool blanket next to the heat, next to the hearth, and the hot water bottle, hot water bottle and her hot chocolate. Next year, she pushed, she pulled her cap down over her ears. Yeah,

Brandon  01:34

as happens every time it dips below 80, that's just how it works. It is. It's an it's

Collin  01:39

part of the annual cycle. It's the yearly rhythms of the world where Megan goes and switches out her summertime slippers for her wintertime slippers. Obviously, then and then and then get Santa. And they will be

Brandon  01:57

until next June, end of June and the chance, uh,

Collin  02:03

scale to the furthest tail end of June as possible. She grabs another blanket off of the stack to carry two around with her now, from room to room. Oh, yeah, nice. So yes, we are. We're enjoying it. It's almost, almost fair time up here. So, yeah, with the subpar gradient stand lineup, I've had to move, I have, I look at it every now and then, I just shake

Brandon  02:31

my think about, you. Think about what could have been.

Collin  02:37

I think of the possibilities that they had left that they've left strewn on the floor. Yeah,

Brandon  02:41

right. The Marvelous Possibilities it could have been, right? So, yep,

Collin  02:50

no. And now we do. We deal with the annual talk of the town around fair time. So a week before fair starts like, fair kicks off in two days, but a week before they've they've been doing livestock shows all this week, because this is all the, yeah, like prelim. It's the real fair. Yeah, this is the real fun stuff. But then you have, so you've got that week, and then you have two more weeks of fair with the accouterments and everything goes along with that. So every year, talk of the town. We all talk about it. We all talk about, How bad are the flies going to be this year? Yes, ladies and gentlemen, that's what I like it. That's what the locals talk about when the fair is in town. How bad are them flies? I

Brandon  03:39

mean, probably quite bad. I would have to imagine

Collin  03:44

it's real bad. They're citywide. They are city wide. I mean, obviously I can't even imagine what the neighborhoods are like in the area around the fair. We are, we are removed at least a little bit, though not out of grandstand volume level. So we're, we're like, we're like, dad's house, as it relates to the drag strip, right? You can hear it, yeah, pretty far away, but yeah, still here. Can still hear so, yes, we have already seen an uptick of flies, even at our house, where I'm like, Ah, yes, the annual speaking of rhythms of the year, we get the trailers all parked around. The RVs are getting hooked up and fly populations are booming.

Brandon  04:27

Oh, yeah, how exciting. Oh, it

Collin  04:33

is so tremendous. That's like I said. That's the exciting stuff going on, actually? No, the real exciting stuff. This is the stuff I live for. Drama. Drama, oh yeah, city drama, always

Brandon  04:51

fun. She's made time. Let's go downtown. Okay? Picture, picture it downtown,

Collin  04:58

abandoned building. Built in 1880 person, person, look, allegedly, allegedly, okay, good, good. Allegedly, like it the previous owner may, may be in serious time, like federal prison for tax, stuff, maybe, allegedly,

Brandon  05:21

oh, that's not like, real building. It's fine

Collin  05:25

building a sat vacant for many, many like, like, we're going on, like, three decades now, for being perfectly honest. Okay, they apparently, I learned something through this process, that if you're building house, commercial, residential, otherwise, but has active and open citations, and not necessarily lawsuits, but like, like citations for code violations and things like that. And you are being held at the county level with the city. It is illegal for you to sell that or to move ownership to something else

Brandon  06:06

without resolving the

Collin  06:08

yes issue, yeah, so color the city surprise when they tried to contact the owner to find that he had sold it to his son. Oh, yeah, for allegedly tax purposes,

Brandon  06:24

yeah, allegedly $8 not 100%

Collin  06:29

sure on this. Why are we talking about this? Friends, well, the building is actively collapsing, active fun on the side of a busy street. Oh, and it's the brownstone kind of building, so it's connected to, yes,

Brandon  06:44

other businesses.

Collin  06:47

Oh, yeah, nice. Yes. It's part of

Brandon  06:50

a block. It's part of a whole thing, part of a whole

Collin  06:52

thing. So the city has been trying to contact this person to say, hey,

Brandon  06:59

we I mean, he's in federal prison, like

Speaker 1  07:06

alleged, oh, allegedly. You would think it would be relatively simple job of tracking him down, right?

Collin  07:13

But because of legalities that are above my pay grade, there nothing has happened. Oh, and they don't live here. So this is also funny, right? Obviously, he doesn't, but he wasn't anyway. So the building is actively collapsing, but enter in conspiracy theorists. Boom. Because that's right, that's right. I know you were asking last year, did the city replace the sidewalk in front of this building. Yes they did. Is that when conspiracy theorists claim that this problem started, yes, so it's actually the city's fault that the building is collapsing, and how dare they go after poor, allegedly tax evading person for all these damages, when it was the city's

Brandon  08:00

fault now, it will come to no surprise to many listeners that I am not, in fact, a structural engineer. However, I think I could probably come up with several good reasons to claim that a sidewalk repair does not cause a roof to fall

Collin  08:25

down. You know what causes a roof to fall down? Dry rot

Brandon  08:28

driver, 30 Years of neglect

Collin  08:32

and three decades of no maintenance, actively, increasingly, yeah, yeah. So turns out now we'll make the timbers rot away and fall apart. How that works? Yes, yeah, neglect. Here, people, is the answer. 30 Years of neglect for a building that was built in

Brandon  08:52

late 1818, 80. Yeah, come on, it's

Collin  08:56

not a spring chicken. These buildings are expensive to upkeep and require constant maintenance. So when you stop and the roof starts actively leaking and then collapsing internally, the whole thing is coming down. So the the

Brandon  09:10

city, anyone who's ever been to an aggregate like a New York would know this, right? If you've seen scaffolding, this is why, right? Because, yes, buildings want to come back down. Okay? You have to actively keep them up.

Collin  09:27

It's a constant process. And so the city had to, had to close off the street. So and the businesses on that are connected to this building, as well as the businesses across the street have closed down, and because they're afraid of flying bricks. And who owns what going across to their to their, you know patrons who are coming in to try and shop. And did I mention the street is shut down? And what was the name of the street you asked? Good question. It's Main Street. Now look at.

Brandon  10:01

Say Main Street. It's main street, really, if those kind of buildings are still on a street in the Midwest, it's gonna be called Main Street, or like, Broadway. Yeah, it's really, those are your two choices,

Collin  10:17

choices, and it's a busy street, and so the city had to go before Judge and get, like, emergency powers to come in and demolish this place. And so they are entering, yeah, well,

Brandon  10:30

because they don't own it, they don't. Oh yeah, no, that yeah because they don't, but

Collin  10:35

yeah. So also enter in conspiracy theorists. Oh no, because in the last two years, has the city come in and condemned and torn down houses that were held together by nothing but asbestos and spite? Yes, yes, yes, they did, and so does the does the conspiracy theorists view the city as money hungry, money hungry, land grabbing, evil people looking to steal property from the common man, the poor, poor common man. Yes, they do. And so there's like one half of the city that's like, I will show up with my sledgehammer to take this building down. This is dumb. Why are we doing this? And then there's the other half that are like, the city cannot and should not take this building down. They need to let the owner try and fix it. It's like see previous three decades. Come on, people, we

Brandon  11:37

had, we had a similar problem in town I work in right there was this a house that had like, burned and then they just, like, left it there ages. And the city had this exact same problem. They were like, We want to tear it down. And they're like, their lawyer's like, you can't do that because it's still privately owned. They're like, but it's right here, just being a burned out husk of a building, yeah, yeah. And nobody's doing anything. It was over like, six years, I think, like, nobody did anything. It was ridiculous. Yeah, I

Collin  12:11

don't envy them in this and honestly, they're in a hard place, like, again, like the history of my town, I would

Brandon  12:16

say, in a commercial district, right? I would imagine, like, yeah. I could Yeah. This thing with the house is a little bit weird, maybe, but like in a commercial zone, I feel like the city probably has an easier time exercising imminent domain. Yeah, right? Like, yeah, yeah.

Collin  12:43

And so they did get it, they were granted it, and now they are going through this process and but in order to tear it down, like, we've got to do inspections for, like, asbestos, because, you know stuff, there's asbestos, definitely asbestos. There's 100% chance that it's made of all asbestos, so they got to do that as this long process. But why am I telling you this story? Because two days ago, our local guitar shop and music supply store hosted

Brandon  13:15

a contest.

Collin  13:17

It was a battle of the bands that was titled rocking the house down. They set up across the street and played a concert to see if a band could play so loud. Oh,

Brandon  13:33

come on. Oh, come on, time for all the old dudes that still have Marshall stacks just come on

Collin  13:43

out, right?

13:46

It was, it

Brandon  13:47

was those big Ampeg cabs, right? Those big eight by 10 Ampeg cabs.

Speaker 1  13:53

Oh, yeah, yeah. It was, I mean, they jumped on this so fast I was so they started marketing this

Brandon  14:01

good I like it. Well done. Well

Collin  14:06

done people. And it was, you know, excuse to get a bands together and stuff and the whole, you know, the impetus was, you know, knock the building out. And I was like, you know, what, with rock, this is 100% for this. Thank you. Thank you people. They did knock it down, but that's fine. That was it. They were really hoping. But I love that kind of like, you know what, like and take, of course, of course, it's the rock artists that are like, You know what? There's a third way.

Brandon  14:39

I don't even knock that building down Skid Row one, you know, it's true,

14:47

yeah, yeah.

Collin  14:52

Like it was so, it was just so well done, because it's like, it's the topic of the entire town of what's gonna happen with. Building what? Why are they doing this? What's the legal status? What's the people are? There's a guy who flies his drone down this closed street every day and does a 360 thing and then post it to Facebook so you can get on there and do like, a turn left and right thing to see what

Brandon  15:18

you can just see how many bricks have fallen since yesterday, right

Collin  15:22

answer, a lot. Okay. And so prize. They took this, like, really hot button, like really divisional thing between people and families and friends, and they just made an app, like a wonderful, you know, like light hearted thing about it. And I just, I applaud them. I was so happy.

Brandon  15:43

Yeah, like, this is great,

Collin  15:48

yeah. So the saga continues. They are and, yeah, I'm very this is, this has been just the highlight of my like, two of two weeks, and it's been, it's been increasing in culmination and the city also hired, like, a month ago, a new communication director person, and I don't think that person's getting paid enough the hours of the day that this person is commenting and replying to things on Facebook. They're gonna need a six week vacation once all this is done, like, those come down right? Like, batting down information, like they're on it. This person is all over commenting as the city of you know, we were living, I was like, like, every comment, they're like, they've got the links, they got the photos, they got the stuff, and it's basically just, like, copy and paste

Brandon  16:37

everybody. But they're really, yeah, have they actually just posted the same comment like 87 times. Because people on the internet, I don't know you go, they will ask the same question just over and over again. It's like children in grade school, right? But they'll just keep asking the same question, even though like to see like, they don't ever look at the comments before the comment thing, right? Nobody ever says, Hey, I wonder if anybody else has said this? No, no, no, no. We have, like, a lot of main character syndrome, obviously. So

Collin  17:12

they're like, I am the first person to come up with such a genius question.

Brandon  17:16

And then, just like, the most basic question of all time, and everybody else has already asked that, somebody asked that question. Like, ask question, like,

Collin  17:23

hours, yep, yep. Actually, just above you, you look,

Brandon  17:27

yeah, the preceding comment actually asked and answered. But don't worry, right there. If I was the city man, you probably can't do this as a city person, but you should be like, see below,

Collin  17:43

oh, man. There are

Brandon  17:44

times that would be pretty good, yeah.

Collin  17:48

There are times where it's just like, yeah. You can tell the person's starting to get real well, you can tell the age of the person, because they restart, they'll start comments with like, oof. We wish

Brandon  18:00

exclamation point.

Collin  18:06

I'm like, maybe not back up on that, just a wee bit. But yeah, this has been so much fun to watch. I am here for 100%

Brandon  18:17

of this. There they go, yes until it comes down on its own volition at like, 230 in the morning and the whole city wakes up in a because of crashing noises like, oh, oh, it's just the building. It's fine to work.

Collin  18:31

Yeah, yeah. It's just everything is everything's fine. I'm gonna send you some photos of this beautiful building. This is from a couple days ago. This is what it looked like.

Brandon  18:41

Some more bricks have fallen since, yeah,

Collin  18:45

yeah. And then they released these photos of the inside of the building. It was, it was beautiful. Yeah, nice. Anyway, it's like, cool, yeah, look dry rot. This is what this is people, this is you don't and there's nothing in the building. That's the other thing too. Like,

Brandon  19:06

Well, yeah. Like, Oh, heavens to Betsy, it was coming off this building, yeah, that's what caused the upstairs window to collapse, obviously. And this, see your problem here is this floor joist has completely separated from everything else, and it's like knocked the beam

Collin  19:33

sideways. Oh, man, I think you mean, think you mean former floor joist.

Brandon  19:40

Yeah, floor error 404. Floor not found, right? I'm pretty sure I've been in this building in Dark Souls two, right? This is no man's wharf. Sorry, just to nerd out a little bit, these beams are red. This, you can see the old slat flooring. Yes, that used to be there. Every other slat is in place, kind of loosely. Oh, this is so much mildew. I can't imagine what could have caused this wood to fail. Can I Can I interest you? Could be this back wall stains that, Oh, interesting has been running down to the bottom floor. It's just straight.

Speaker 1  20:31

It's just, there's no that's

Brandon  20:40

all this is,

Collin  20:44

but no, why? It's the it's definitely the sidewalk, okay? Oh

Brandon  20:51

yeah, clearly, yeah.

Collin  20:54

I mean those, I will say, when these photos started surfacing the sidewalk, people got real quiet, like real quiet,

Brandon  21:01

yeah, like, Oh, I see that. It was, in fact, not

Collin  21:10

the well, when you put it like that, guess now just be seeing myself out. Don't mind, man, yeah, so take care of your buildings, people. So I'm saying, Great,

Brandon  21:35

dang, that's bad. I've not been doing anything near as exciting, mostly just like cleaning the house, the annual end of summer cleaning before going back to work. Because, like, once we go back, like, there will be no house up cute for a while, right? Because it's like, so last end of summer, the traditional end of summer house deep cleaning, slash spider murder spree, right? Like, oh, it's been so hot that, like, there's no water anywhere, and it hasn't rained in. I can't really figure out how long the there's a lot of spiders that are like being born and like coming inside the house. And so you have to just like, Oh, yeah. Like, there was a absolutely enormous, like, black widow spider on my porch. I was like, hmm, yeah, you can't be here, like, right by my front door. No. Like, the temptation is too strong for you want to come inside my house. Never mind. Yeah, I did not entrance. Denied, actually, yeah, so we did that. We cleaned out the dryer vent. Ooh, ooh, exciting. S, right, that was adventure that happened, right? So that was great. Did that finally got that fixed, and then, like, leather, little things I had to have, the guy came over and fix our sink today, like it was the clips that hold the sink on to the countertop. Like, I guess just had broken. And so the sink was, like, just sort of sitting on the counter. Oh, it was a free floating sink, yeah. And so, like, we had to, like, re clock it and, like, put the hardware back on the bottom. So I don't really know how that fell off, but, like, just, I don't know, just after a long time, and it just came undone and broke or whatever. So I had to do that. And like, have we have somebody coming tomorrow to look at our garage door, because the remote thing didn't work. And so when the landlord was here, he was like, messing with it. And I was like, I tried to do this, and I tried to reprogram this, and I tried to program a brand new thing, and it didn't work at all. He's like, Oh yeah, I could eat that. Blah, blah. And he tried it like three times. It was like, yeah, no, something's broken, I don't know. Oh no. I think it's the receiver thing, like that takes the beam signal, like on the actual opener. He said he thinks that might be shoddy. So someone's kind of like that.

Brandon  24:22

That's pretty much it, right? Just doing some house cleaning, really so

Brandon  24:30

and tomorrow and do some laundry, because I haven't been able to do laundry because the dryer has been, like,

Collin  24:36

not attached to anything for a couple days, that

Brandon  24:40

makes it kind of hard to do that, yeah, kind of can't I mean, I guess I just hang it up dry, like five seconds outside, I suppose. But that's really all I just do, like, housey things, right? Nothing too exciting, really,

Brandon  24:57

here. So I. Yeah, I did, I do have for you

Brandon  25:05

a controversial hot take of the week from me, right? You ready? Hold on to your horses here. So I was thinking about this after returning from my European adventure, right? And I was thinking about some things, you know, pontificating,

Brandon  25:29

and then I was thinking about the decisions that were made in the early American history, right? And my

Brandon  25:42

hot take here, there's many people in the country are about to not like this, but I think it was absolutely a mistake to not make New York City, the capital United States. I said it, I said it, I'm there. It's out there. That's my hot take. Okay,

Collin  26:01

how? Okay. So, help me connect the dots here. You're traveling over in Europe,

Brandon  26:06

traveling over here, many capital cities were visited, right? And when you think about Washington DC, if you've been to Washington DC, I right, yeah, right. As a city, it's not good. It's not a good city. I've heard this, right? It's not really

Brandon  26:27

anything, right? The

Brandon  26:29

only thing that anybody wants to go watch CCC is, like, the National Mall, right? That's it. We have these big it's like it started life as, like, a big, grand planned city, and then, like, immediately fell apart, and then there's, like, nothing else, right? So it's this huge, like National Avenue with, like, all this stuff, the government buildings, and, like, overly large architecture, like, really far away from everything and really far apart. So they look enormous, right? But like as a functional place to like exist, it's not really that good, right? So we think about like a city, right? And the weird thing about like, other capital cities, right? Even like Sydney, right? You're just walking around, you're like, do to do, to do, oh yeah, that's the parliament building Anyway, do to do, to

Collin  27:36

do, like, the

Brandon  27:38

High Court building right there. Just like, right there, randomly, like, blah. And even though, like, you might be like, Oh, doesn't Europe have like, big, giant palaces, like, yeah, like, a lot of them aren't, like, being used anymore, so there's like, but even the ones in, like, Scandinavia, because they still have, like, kings and stuff, they're like, ceremonial positions. But, like, sure, yeah, here's the royal palace, but it's just kind of

Brandon  28:00

like, over there thing, you know, it's

Brandon  28:04

fine. And then you just go over here, and then there's, like, other stuff. And then like, Oh, you're just, like, casually walk around according like, oh yeah, here's the here's the parliament building. Like, oh yeah, over there, that's the High Court building. You know, it's like, not a big deal, right? Like, little more, whatever it is like, fits functionally in a city that you can, like, exist and do other things in, right? Like, if you go to Washington, DC, it's like, only a capital,

Collin  28:37

you know, it's like, it's like those little kind of like a, well, honestly, it's kind of like suburbia, where the house is there, maybe, but like, there's nothing to support it. You have to leave the area where the houses are to go to the restaurants and the grocery stores. Yeah,

Brandon  28:58

a thing and it, yeah. Like, you can't do anything there, yeah, like, you know what? I mean, it's weird and like, so I think it's very odd. And I always, you always get like, a weird vibe from like, planned capitals anyway, right? Because you look at places like Turkmenistan and you're like, was it, you know, you get Kazakhstan, you're like,

Speaker 1  29:26

right? And then you're like, ah, Washington, oh, oh, oh, it's got this

Brandon  29:34

even more so recently, right, like, right, like, but, like, it was, like, architecturally, it's kind of like, cool. Like, it's that the one thing, the one place, is very low, like, the National Mall is very great, right? It's very nice. It's everything in like, this, just giant line, yeah, it's a little too far apart. But, like, even then, like, you can see everything in one you cannot walk there. Yeah, and everything is so incredibly large that, like, it doesn't feel like you're getting anywhere, Oh sure, yeah, for like, five minutes, and it feels like you haven't moved, because everything is so big and so spread out, right? But like you have, but like you can't tell. But so this, this is my hot take that I've discovered, like, as I was thinking about this, like, I know everybody in the United States is always mad that, like, New York gets all the attention. But like, Yeah, I think it probably should have been the

30:33

capital, the US. Like, I feel like that was

Collin  30:36

because it it Okay, help me with the history here it was for a brief

Brandon  30:40

time, yeah, yeah. And then they're like, no. Well, right? The other reason that Washington DC exists because they're like, No, the capital has to be in the middle, because we have to have the equal representation of the slave state. Okay, look,

Collin  30:59

states,

Brandon  31:03

yeah. But regardless of that mistake, which is a big one, right, like moving the capital, making the planned city, like, I know they got, like, the fancy architects and blah, blah, blah, like, come on, it just feels like not a city, you know. And there will be people that argue with me. They're like, Oh, but people live there like it doesn't mean, does it feel like a

Collin  31:28

city? I will say like, from what I've heard from people who do live in Washington, DC, it is barely, like they barely make that life work for how it's constructed and what isn't there in the infrastructure? So, yeah, just saying, yes, there are people present. Like, cool, yeah,

Brandon  31:49

great. Like, yeah, it's, like, very difficult to live your life. And like, nobody really lives there. That's not in government anyway, right? You know, there's, like, I guess, service industry people, but like, it's not really like a diverse economy, right? Like, there's not a lot of that there, you know. So, like, is that kind of city too? It's kind of meh. So that was my big, uh, important hot take, right from this week. I had a thing about conspiracies, but it's much darker than yours, so I'm gonna save that one for a little bit. I don't want to bring us down. Oh, right. I don't bring us down. We need to. We need to put a pin in what is a conspiracy theory that is absolutely insane, but you actually believe it, right? I need to put a pin there,

Collin  32:38

right? I don't know if we wanna do

Brandon  32:40

like? Oh, spoilers. It has nothing to do with the US government, right. Okay, that, right, disinterested immediately. Never mind. Okay. Well, I'm saying for you know, this is outside of current events, which are also, could also appear on the list, just, you know, on the, on the Oh, no, yeah, we're going. I have a different direction, but we're gonna, I think we should save that for later, because it's a lot darker. We don't need to go there today, right? We'll save that for, okay, fine, the winter time, right? When we're doing our winter reading,

Collin  33:13

right? Yeah, that's exactly what we need, absolutely, reading Tolstoy. And this is exactly what I was I was just about to say, What's cracking open that chapter 15 and Tolstoy. Yeah.

Brandon  33:28

Now we all know Tolstoy is much too long for us to read.

Collin  33:33

Yeah, we would never be done. Okay, fine,

Brandon  33:36

there, so you know, but we'll allude to him. Often he will be yes in the background, living dark and depressed like he just sort of is anyway. Oh yeah, yeah.

34:00

Oh man.

Collin  34:03

Well, I look forward to that

Brandon  34:04

for sure. Yeah, so we'll save that for later. But I didn't, I haven't really done anything this week, but I do have a sea shanty of the week. Ah, right, yes, right this week, going back classic one here we're gonna go with, leave her Johnny. Leave her Johnny. Right? Very, this is a very popular sea shanty. Apparently, it's like one that a lot of like folk singing

Brandon  34:33

groups do in their repertoire, right?

Brandon  34:39

Of course, regained much popularity after assassink floor back flag, you know, obviously, but it is very catchy, right? And a very fun song, right? There are references to said song in a songbook from the 1860s and. Ah, so, you know, a nice it's a little bit older than some of the other ones I had last couple weeks. It is probably some sort of windless or capstan shanty. So working song, spinning the thing as well. It's important for this chapter. Coming soon. And the theory is that the her that we're referring to in the song is the ship, right? Is the song about coming to shore and disembarking from your voyage? Right? Right. But, you know, oh, the times were hard and the wages low, and it's time for us to leave her, right? So there we go, for the voyage is done, and the winds don't blow, and it's time for us to leave her. So the her in question is the ship, right? And so the journey is over. You must disembark and leave, and you're sad about it. She's like, Oh man, I am a sea person, and I guess I'm a sailor boy, so you're sad that you're leaving the ship, right? Boom. You go, nice. I go, Hey. Speaking

Brandon  36:31

of ships, ships, my goodness, this was Oh boy. Many thoughts about this? I man this. Man, these next three, these three chapters that we're going to work through. I like the danger. He even alludes to it. It's been kind of lighthearted to him up to this point, and kind of a joke. And, boy, howdy, does it get real up close and personal? Yeah,

Brandon  37:06

this is the first time I've noticed, like, a real shift in tone, yes, right, from our man, Jim here, right?

Brandon  37:14

And really, the first, like, I don't know we, we have a,

Brandon  37:26

it's like a realization has happened, almost that, like we're in very different waters. Pun intended, right? Wow, um, before even even the cannon firing on the stockade, we didn't really get this kind of vibe. It was still like gung ho and and all like, you know, Oh, happy go lucky. Pip, pip, cheerio, stiff upper lip, kind of British stuff, right? But like this chapter, the eye strike the Jolly Roger chapter, like we have a very like it gave me a different vibe right from how he started describing the ship, right? So he's on the ship, right? Jim, we let as left, let as we let me start this sentence over that was not good. When we last left, Jim, there we go. He was like, hanging on to the bows. Yes, because he just like, le jumped up and grabbed hold of the boat as he was passing by, because he's, you know, got good plans and thinks ahead. Um,

Brandon  38:42

he pulls himself up on the boat, and he's like,

Brandon  38:45

lurking a little bit. He's like, trying to figure out what's going on, and immediately, like, the first thing that he comments on is how dirty it

Brandon  38:54

is, right? Like, he talks about how

Brandon  39:01

the deck hadn't been scrubbed, and there are empty bottles and dirt in detritus just everywhere. There's hand prints all over the footprints, broken stuff. This is the first thing he notices, yep, right. And this theme keeps coming up in the chapter, when he's looking at how the pirates inhabited the ship, it's a complete disaster, right? There is absolutely no regard for anything, right, like nothing. And I think that sort of shifts his perspective about these people. Because before he was like, oh, yeah, we'll take it to him and blah, blah, blah. And I think just now, right now, is the first time he's like, this is a dangerous situation to be in, right? Yeah. I think this is like, really the first time it sort of sets in for him. It's right now almost all the way through the

Collin  40:10

well, right? I mean, you can imagine the, you can imagine the setting of previous, the last time he was on this ship. Think back to what was then. It was crude by everybody. They had just pulled into the bay, and it is like a whole other world that he's stepping back on to, void of all people, safe spoilers, some people, but like, you're right, they've won, like the genuinely the scenery around the world that he used to be is now tainted, smeared and marred, which, like you said, like, Oh, this is the true character of those people who we were just with, and what they've done and are doing to kind of, like, almost his naivety of that is now left behind in a sense of like he thought he understood or knew, and now this is the revelation to that kind of what you're talking about there, of like he's seeing this now with fresh eyes of what the situation actually is.

Brandon  41:20

Yeah, I think so. And I think part of that's represented by the absence of the captain, right? Captain small. It is, like, very, he is a very stereotypical English person, right, proper, right? Everything must be in order. He's a hard man, really, right? Like, you know, discipline probably pretty fair, but a very stern, hard fella and like that is the one side is like order, you know. And now we are seeing the complete opposite of once the pirates are in charge, it is complete disorder and disarray with complete disregard to everything, really. And I think it's shocking for him, right? Yeah, and we just get a very like the ship now is a visual representation of the difference between the type of people the gym has encountered, right? On the one hand, we have the captain, the doctor, even the squire that represent, like one type of person. And now we're seeing the ship as it represents the other type of people, you know, Israel, hands. And then, of course, chief among them, literally, Silver. Silver, yeah, right. Like this is like squalor in depravity that he was not expecting. And is like, Oh, this is worse than I thought, right, right? And again, before he was with other people, so, like, maybe he was a little bit insulated by because the captain was there, and he's sort of, like radiating this aura of, like, everything's gonna be fine because I'm here and I know what to do. Yeah,

Collin  43:01

I got that sense again, of that naivety and view of the world, and that it was not all as it seemed, and that there was a lot being suppressed and kept down, of the true natures of the people that were around him, yeah,

Brandon  43:15

and I think he's known for a while because of what happened in the very beginning, back at the admiral Bimbo, right? Like, he kind of knows, but, like, even then, it was like, Oh, I just ran away. And then the soldiers came, and then everything was fine. It was like, now he's like, alone, completely surrounded in their environment, yeah?

Collin  43:35

Well, prior to this, it was still one big, grand adventure of like, hey, yes, it's just kind of wild and crazy guys out here. Haha, isn't this great?

Brandon  43:44

Yeah, yeah. And I think we've slowly been seeing like a shift, but I think this chapter is like a smack in the face of like, this is the reality now, these people don't care about anything. This is like a completely different type of person than you were expecting, right? And then, and then, I think that transfers over to the next chapter that we'll get to here just a minute, right? That it like really folds into that well, of like we see the we start with the ship, and now we have, you know, here, in a minute we're going to get to this is embodied in Israel, hands, right? It's like he is, like the personification of this, you know, just villainy, you know, yeah,

Collin  44:35

yeah. So he, yeah. So he, he gets a board, and he sees the two men that he thinks are mostly dead, but, but hands is not and starts. He's not all dead, not all dead, mostly dead,

Brandon  44:48

really? Yeah, it's great.

Collin  44:52

That is great. Oh, man, I gotta okay. I'm adding that to my list. I.

Brandon  45:00

Uh, but yeah. So he kind of like, you know, he's he's hiding in the forecastle, he's looking about, and he sees them, and he's sort of watching them from afar, and he's pretty sure red cap guy is dead. And then he sees Israel Hands, and he sees him like, slump over, but then he sees him get back up a little bit so he's like, Ah, okay, so he's alive, so I need to be careful of that guy, which spoilers, yes,

Collin  45:30

careful of that guy, although he still is

Brandon  45:33

trying to, I feel like he in the way that he talks to him, he is trying to embody Captain Smollett a little bit, right? Because he says, you know, when he walks up to him, he says, Come aboard, Mr. Hands. He's trying to play it cool. Oh no, he's trying to like what I feel like we're not we don't get it spelled out here, but I feel like he's trying to be like, What would Captain Smollett do in this situation? You know, there's because of the way that he's talking to him. He's trying to be like Kurt. He's trying to like project that I am in control the situation when I think he knows that he is not at

Collin  46:26

all, very not for sure, right?

Brandon  46:29

Yeah, yeah. Um, so, so, yeah. And I think that's even, I think Israel brings that up once he starts talking to him, and he's like, you know, blah, blah. He's like, give me some some brandy, right? And he's like, why should I do that? He's like, Well, near as I can figure, Captain Hawkins, because he's like, I'm the captain now, Mr. Man, yeah, nice, um, he agree. He does agree to, like, help him get him some food and some bandages, you know, to help bandage this big gas on his leg. Because, as Israel Hands points out, he points out the same thing we pointed out last episode of, Hey Jim, how you gonna, how you gonna steer this ship all by yourself? Right? What's your person who doesn't know how ships work, yes. So he's like, listen me. And because Israel looks at him, he's like, so me and this dude here, Red Hat Guy, we got her all under sale, and we were piloting him about so you need at least two people, and so you need my help. So if you would kindly get me something, some food and some drink and some bandages for this leg of mine. Yeah, I will help you. And he's like, there's a interesting back and forth. And he's like, I don't believe you. He's like, Yeah. He's like, here's what I want to do. And he's like, Yeah, well, that's what we're gonna do. He's like, I don't want to die on the boat and I want to do this, and so you need to trust me at least a little bit. And Jim's kind of like, wary though, like he knows to not do that, but he's like, Oh, on the other hand, he's right, and I do need someone to tell me how to steer a show.

Collin  48:26

Yep, he's he, he's not all together, like, completely clueless on this of he is be doing this warily, but you're right. He's like, he's kind of, he is. He's got to go along with it for now.

Brandon  48:40

He does even, like, towards the end here we have this exchange, like, right before he does it, Mr. Hands is talking, and he's like, yeah, why? I have no choice not i I'd help you sail her up to execution dock by thunder. So I would. And so Jim is still being like, Okay, well, I guess I believe him, right? I have a footnote here. My book says execution, Doc is, of course, where pirates were executed in near the Tower of London, sure. Okay, Thames, so that's what he's talking about. But Jim even says, well, as it seems to me, there was some sense in this. So we struck our bargain on the spot, and in three minutes, had the Hispaniola sailing easily before the wind along the coast of Treasure Island. So he's like, I'm still gonna believe him, right? Jim is still, I think he's a little more wary because of some of his experience before. Like, he like, you know? He was like, Oh, these pirates aren't so bad. Oh, Billy Bones has been brutally killed, or was about to be, if he wouldn't have just died of a hard tech. Oh, longer John Silver's not such a bad guy. Oh my gosh. He's the most villainous human ever, right? And he knows to be wary of Israel Hands because of you know that scene, he was one of the people talking to silver. In the Apple Barrel. Jim rushes that he's like, I know to be wary of him, because I know what he thinks about us, right, what he thinks about me, because I heard him in the Apple Barrel before. So I think he's he knows now to be a bit more wary. Not just be like, Oh yeah, that makes sense. Let's go for it. So he's like,

Brandon  50:21

okay, so he is a little bit more careful, at least for now. Yeah,

Brandon  50:26

so that's good. We've had some learning. Jim finally took you a long time. Good. Great job, Ryan. I love this is in my book. This is a page 170

Collin  50:40

better light than never. And I, I love how this chapter ends with this, like, again, this is brooding. It's brooding. It's creepy to be like it just the whole scene, how everything's going. It's not good. And the way this ends this, he says, um, I should, I think, have had nothing left me to desire but for the eyes of the coxswain as they followed me derisively about the deck and the odd smile that appeared continually on his face, it was a smile that had in it something both of pain and weakness, a haggard old man smile. But there was besides that, a grain of derision, a shadow of treachery in his expression as he craftily watched and watched, watched me at my work. Yeah, like,

Brandon  51:27

like that, but he knows that he's just waiting like Jim doesn't know for what, but he can tell he's waiting for, biding his time

Brandon  51:38

for something Jim isn't sure what yet, but he knows to be leery. Again. We've learned LOOK AT THAT good job. Finally, right, here we go. So next chapter titled applicably, Israel Hands,

Brandon  51:58

you know, they've been sailing around the island, and, you know, he's starting to try to to have this conversation. He's like, can you get rid of Red Hat Guy here, turns out his name is O'Brien. He's like, can you bite throw him overboard? He's, you know, staking out the joint. And he's like, I can't, because I'm tiny, so, yeah, that's just gonna have to be there. Yeah. So they have a bit of a interesting talk about, like, you know, morality and, like, biblical things a little bit right? Because he's like, Well, you should pray. And he's like, why? Right? I thought that was interesting. And he's like, Well, you know, as you know, we talked, you know, blah blah. He's like, the, you know, the dead can see and the spirits are here, and blah blah. And he's just like, yeah, no, this comes back later a little bit. So we get the first salvo of this here, right? But later on, yeah, he's like, why? You know you should do this, you said yourself, blah, blah. And he's like, I don't reckon it would be any good. Now, you know, come this far, and there's, you know, no point, really. But before that, he does ask him to get some he's like, can you go get me some wine. This Brandy is too strong for me. And this is like alarm bell Central, where Jimmy's like,

Collin  53:31

what, even I who, yeah, not that familiar here. Read that and went, what?

Brandon  53:40

Yeah. Yeah. And in the last chapter, we had a bit of a moment where he's like, he goes and looks below a little bit and he sees, like, just how prestigiously they must have been drinking ever since they got here, right? And he's like,

Brandon  53:55

What do you mean? You want some wine? So he's like,

Brandon  54:01

now he's curious about why he wants that. So he's like, he decides to play along, right? I saw where my advantage lay, and that with a fellow so densely stupid, I could easily conceal my suspicions to the end. So he's like, yeah, yeah. What do you want? White or red? It's like, I don't really think that matters, right now, whatever you can find,

Brandon  54:24

Jim scuttles down the ladder, takes his shoes off, runs across the deck to the other ladder, and pops his head up like a little groundhog, Gopher, Gopher. Jim peeking out, and what does he see? The gas

Brandon  54:46

he spies. Mr. Hands, right, he had arisen from his position to his hands and knees and through his leg obviously hurt him pretty sharply when he moved, or I could hear a trifle him stifle the. Own, yet it was at a good rattling rate that He trailed himself across the deck. In half a minute, he had reached the port scuppers and picked out a coil of

Brandon  55:09

rope, a long knife, or rather, a short Dirk, discolored to the hilt with blood.

Brandon  55:18

So he looks at that, and he sticks the knife in his pocket, and then he crawls back over to where he was, pretending that he had not moved at all. The gym has learned two things. Number one, visual hands can move a bit better than he's letting on. And number two, he now has an knife, which is not great news for Jim. What?

Brandon  55:40

No at least he knows, right? He knows. So he went down to continue to fetch the wine,

Brandon  55:53

you know, put his shoes back on, came back upstairs, and started kind of giving him that there's some more conversation here where he asked about tobacco, and this is where they bring up the praying thing again. And he's like, yeah, no, no. For 30 years, I've sailed the seas and seen good and bad, better and worse, fair weather and foul provisions, run out, knives going and whatnot. Well, now I tell you, I've never seen good come of goodness yet. This is kind of the ethos of piracy, right? Like he doesn't as a pirate. He doesn't really believe in this, like good deeds nonsense.

Brandon  56:45

He's like right after that, where he says, Dead men don't bite. Yes. Ah, that's my view. That's my view. Yeah, so you know, okay, well,

Brandon  57:01

so as they still have some time to run, we just have a beef brief passage of time here. And now they're getting close to the inlet, and the plan is, of course, to beach the boat upon the beach. Yes, I guess, because there is no anchor, because Jim, you know, conveniently cut it off. Okay, so they have to beach the boat. So they're looking for an area on the north inlet that's got a nice flat beach. They do have to wait a little bit, because they don't want to beach it. They need to wait till the tide is at its highest, and then it's going to go back out again, because if they beach too early, then the boat won't be up high enough, and then it'll get washed out with the tide, right, right. So they have to wait till the tide is basically coming out, so they can then ram it up there, and then it'll be stuck. So it can be beached, right? Otherwise it won't stick, basically. So there's some element of waiting here we have. We've had to wait for a while between these things, these points here, but now we're there, and they're starting to aim, and he's kind of guiding him, and he's telling him what to do. And he is, he does,

Brandon  58:13

oh, admit that.

Brandon  58:15

Clearly, Mr. Hands here knows his stuff, because he's, he's very good at piloting this boat. He knows where to do. He's just following his instructions all together. And he's like, and it turns out pretty good, yeah, yep.

Collin  58:35

He's, he's because it's real narrow right through that, right? And it was hard to navigate in there. And it was very because he was like, yeah, it's not like, yeah, it's not that long of a distance, but, man, it was really tricky,

Brandon  58:46

yeah. So he was, you know, kind of impressed by that, and he got so distracted by this, right? So we're there, the excitement of these maneuvers had somewhat interfered with the watch I had kept hitherto, sharply enough upon the coxswain, even then, I was still much interested waiting for the ship to touch that I had quite forgot the peril that hung over my head and stood craning over the starboard bulwarks and watching the ripples spreading wide before the bows. So he's waiting, he's watching the boat run up towards the beach, because he's, you know, the boat has to, like, slam into the beach. So he's like, waiting. He's watching this happen, and all of a sudden he's like, oh, oh. He turns around, yep. And here is Mr. Hands halfway towards him already, Dirk in hand at the ready. I did like we we we both must have cried out aloud when our eyes met. But while mine was the shrill cry of terror, his was the roar of fury like a charging bull. Oh, it was great. It was great. Yeah, I like this visual. Everybody went, Eek, yeah. He. Was so startled that he let go of the wheat of the wheel, or whatever, right? And which did cause it to, yeah, the tiller to, like, slap him in the chest, because Israel in the chest, because he was, he was holding it, because the boat, he was holding the boat over so it could RAM up on the beach right, so could lay down when he got up there. But he did that, so he he dodged, and he whips out here. He suddenly remembers that he has this pistol in his pocket, right, literal checkoff gun here. And

Brandon  1:00:38

he pulls it out, and he pulls the trigger, and he goes, click,

Brandon  1:00:43

Oh, right. And then he goes, Oh, yeah, I went swimming. Duh, duh,

Collin  1:00:49

I totally, yes. I love that. When he was like, yeah, he goes, Huh, oh, right, there's water. I didn't can't swim. Can't swim with your black powder pistols,

Brandon  1:01:02

obviously. Who knew? So now he's like, all right, um, running, back to running, yes. And so there's a bit of a Tom and Jerry esque thing happening here, where they're running around, and he does realize, like he almost cornered me in the stern, so I need to be running away from him, but not like so far away from him that I'll be trapped in the bow again. So we kind of gotta go around and round, right? Yes, trying to go circles. That's his plan here.

Collin  1:01:39

That's his Yeah, yeah. It's as wounded as he was, he was wonderfully, it was wonderful how fast he could move his grizzled hair tumbling over his face and his and his face itself as red as a red in sign as haste and fury, right? And he's now it's, it's, this is real, like it's right up in his face now, like the pursuit is on and he's scrambling to get away. Yeah,

Brandon  1:02:05

he does stay still, as I say, it was a boys game, and I could hold my own against an elderly Seaman with a wounded leg. Indeed, my courage had begun to rise so high that I allowed myself a few daring thoughts on what would be the end of the affair. And while I saw certainly that I could spit it out for long, I saw no hope of ultimate escape, right? So he's like, I can run away, but like, I can't run away. You know what I mean? That's he's like, I can keep running around in circles, but like, I'm still trapped on a boat this guy, yeah, I don't really know what to do. There's no end game. I'm stuck playing keep away. I don't know how to get out of this situation, right? However, it has come to pass that the boat is still hurtling towards the beach. So in the midst of all of this, the boat suddenly careens into the sand and over to the port side, right because, of course, it can't sit flat on a beach because, you know, it's hull pointy all. So it hits the thing, and it's it rams up on the beach, and then it lays over down on the left side. So the deck is now canted at about 45 degrees, yeah. And so we were, both of us caps in a second, and both of us rolled almost together into the scuppers. The Dead red cap with his arm still spread out, tumbling stiffly after us. Right? So he's real close. He almost gets kicked in the head by Mr. Hands. He has a brief second to escape, because hands is entangled with the dead Mr. O'Brien here, and so he runs up the mizzen shrouds the ropes that are hanging from the mast, right? He, like, climbs up them. He's like, I can't, you know, run across the deck now clearly, because the deck is slaying down. Yes, it's sulpine, if you will. And so he runs up. He climbs up the ropes, the mizzens, and so that's what he does. So while he's up there, he's up there just enough he realizes, Oh, I have a second I can re prime

Brandon  1:04:39

my pistol. Yes, grateful.

Brandon  1:04:44

It's like I got a little bit of breathing space. I'm up here high, um, Mr. Hands does start to climb after him, but it does take him a little bit longer, because he does have only one leg that's

Collin  1:04:57

functioning well. So I. Limit it a bit, yeah.

Brandon  1:05:03

But as he's about halfway up, he gets finished, and we get the dramatic. One more step, Mr. Hands, and I'll blow your brains out. Dead Men, don't bite, you know? Oh, okay, God, Jim, a little too confident here, buddy, not John Wick, okay, calm down. We're not, not the Bruce Willis with the one liners here. All right, you need to go.

Collin  1:05:27

Oh, welcome to the party, pal. Yeah. And now interesting. After he says this, it says he stopped instantly. I could see by the working of his face that he was trying to think. And the process was so slow and laborious that in my newfound security, I laughed aloud,

Brandon  1:05:47

yeah, a little overconfident, perhaps, yeah, yeah. So Israel's trying to talk him out of it, right? He's like, Well, I reckon we're fouled, you and me, and we'll have to sign articles. I'd have you. I've had had you, but for that, they're lurch and I don't have no luck, not I, and I reckon I'll have to strike, which comes hard, you see, for a master mariner to a ship's younger like you Jim and Jim was like savoring this victory so much that he kind of stopped paying attention a little bit. And all of a sudden there was an, uh, a sharp pain in his shoulder, right? Something saying, like an arrow through the air, and I felt a blow and then a sharp pain, and there I was pinned by the shoulder to the mast

Brandon  1:06:42

right, however, in the ultimate backfire,

Brandon  1:06:47

perhaps literally in the horrid pain and surprise at the moment, I scare, say it was by my I can scare say it was by my own volition, and I am sure it is with an out conscious aim, both of my pistols went off and both escaped my hands. They did not follow alone fall alone with a choked cry, the coxswain loosed his grip among the shrouds and plunged head first into the water.

Collin  1:07:19

Yeah, intense,

Brandon  1:07:21

intense, intense, here, right? We have such a right. So Israel was trying to, like, lull him by talking to him all the while drawing back that he flings in it Jim, right? And Jim is so surprised and so shocked that he twitches, but when he pushes he discharges his brace of pistols directly into Mr. Hands, yeah. I mean, yeah, works, yeah. And in our next chapter, he is struggling to cope with this fact, right? And I always do like this, how we have to, like, think about this kind of thing, right, the ramifications of what's just happened, right? It's a little less action here. We're like, Yep, sure did anyway do to do, right? We get some real emotion here from Jim, while, at first he's a bit shocked, and he's trying to figure out how to unstick himself from the mass, because he's also in a bit of shock, because he looks down and there is just a knife in his shoulder, yeah, stuck to the mast, right? But then he kind of realizes, like, okay, it's not like, in in my shoulder, like it almost missed him, basically, right? So it's just like through the skin a little bit, and then through his clothes. So when he like, convulses a little bit, it like rips out of his skin, which, again, not pleasant, but that part's solved, but he's having a hard time dealing with what he's just just happened. And he's looking down, like, because of the way that he's sitting in the mast. He's like, looking down because Israel fell basically straight down. And he can just see him right under the water, right. I could see him lying huddled on the clean, bright sand in the shadow of the vessel's side, a fish or two whipped past his body, sometimes by the quicker quivering of the water, he appeared to move a little as if he were trying to rise, but he was dead enough for all that being both shot and drowned and was food for fish at the very place where he had designed my slaughter. Yeah,

Collin  1:09:41

yeah, yeah. This makes it all the more eerie, because he doesn't just disappear and go out of sight. He's just, yeah, crystal clear water, just down there,

Brandon  1:09:51

right, yeah, right there. He's just a couple feet away, and you can still see him right, like he is in the water, but like the water's so shallow, it doesn't matter.

Collin  1:09:59

Yeah. And he talks about, I think, because of the waves he he is still moving a little bit, yeah, there

Brandon  1:10:07

too. And it, you know, it makes it, the ripples on the surface make it look like he's moving more, right? So he's,

Brandon  1:10:13

it's really weird and uncomfortable for him to look at, right? Yeah. And so he does,

Brandon  1:10:24

you know, after he kind of unsticks himself, he's like, I could just jump into the water. But basically, he's like, I could just jump off into the water, but I am definitely not going in over there. Like, I'm not jumping in the water with him, right? Because he's still there. I can see him still not go. I'm not joining, yes, I'm not doing that,

Brandon  1:10:46

right? I mean, fair, fair enough. Um,

Brandon  1:10:54

so he kind of undoes himself. He also kicks over Red Hat Guy, right? I began to think of clearing it of his last passenger, the dead man O'Brien. It sort of knocks him off the boat too. Now that the boat's like, tilted over, he could just, sort of like barely nudge him, and he goes over the side. But this is also problematic, right? He went in with the sound of a plot with a sounding plunge, and the red cap came off and remained floating on the surface, and as soon as the splash subsided, I could see him in Israel lying side by side, both wavering with the tremendous movement of the water. O'Brien, though still quite a young man, was very bald. There he lay with his bald head across the knees of the man who had killed him, and the quick fishes steering to and fro over both Yeah, so, so yeah. Now he is the sole master of the ship. Once again, he does realize he still has some work to do. He has to cut one of the sails off because it's still like the jib sale is still

Collin  1:12:12

under strain, right? Yeah, under strain, damaging the boat. He's

Brandon  1:12:17

able to get that down, but the main sale was harder. He had to, um, like, basically cut it down. Yeah, I cut the hallards, and the peak dropped instantly. A great belly of loose Canvas floated broad over there because he didn't want the sails to catch the wind and yank the boat off the beach, because he'd be back to where he was before this whole mess. Yep. Like I got the boat here, so I gotta keep it on the dead beach ass. So now I feel that we have come to, like, even, even, you know, without a bit of foreshadowing here we have a problem, right? We have Jim like he like is a bad choice, right? He decides to leave the ship right now to make it back to the camp, right? It's getting dark, right? I know the ship is laying over on its side. I know there are some dead people, like, several feet away. However, I know he's like, trying to, like, escape that right is what he's trying to do. He's trying to run away from that fact, mostly. But leaving the boat right now is like a horrible plan, terrible plans again, like, we're just gonna go right now

Collin  1:13:51

in this haste and like, I don't know where this is coming from. If it's just, like, a matter of well that's done, or if it's this urgency, I think part of this is he,

Brandon  1:14:02

he wants to, I don't know if

Collin  1:14:04

it's a prove himself to the rest of people, to let them know he's okay, like, there's just so much tied up in this decision.

Brandon  1:14:11

Yeah, I think there is. He wants to. He's urgent. He's in a hurry to get back because he's gone for longer than he thought. He wants some approval from them for all this nonsense that he had to go through. He wants someone to tell him that it was the right thing to do and it was a good job, right? And also, I think he wants to be back with trustworthy people, sure, right? Like he spent time on this destroyed, you know, Hispaniola, right, where it's all dirty and mangy and filthy from the pirate. He's seen the nature of the pirates, and I think he wants to get away from that as much as he can, right? He wants to get away from that. He wants to go away even so much so that he's making quite poor decisions. Again. He's leaving in the dark, right? He's wandering and he sees his. Giant fire. And he's like, Oh, that's weird. I wonder who do that anyway? Gonna keep going? La, la, la, what? Yep, what. Oh, no. Even comments like it was not our way to make such large fires. No, no. But you know, this is where I left everybody, so surely they're still going to be in the log house, right? And he gets there, and he creeps up, even he's being sneaky, and then he hears people snoring, and he's reassured, because he knows that his crew snore, and he's like,

Collin  1:15:35

ah, clearly he's also as well. He's also reassured when somebody yells, all's well, and he goes, Well, yeah, somebody just said all's clear, but I'm right here, so it must be the terrible lookouts, because they were always bad, yeah, right. And I'm like, weird, he's just so assured coming back. He's so ready to be back, to be

Brandon  1:16:01

back, yeah, but he's not seeing the signs here, right? And he's even like, hey, you know to be funny. I'm just gonna sneak in here and I'm gonna lay down in my bed, and when they wake up, they're gonna be so surprised I didn't kick something.

Brandon  1:16:22

And a shrill voice broke forth out of the darkness, pieces of eight, pieces of eight, without pause or change, like the clacking of a tiny mill. Dun, dun, dun. I pirates Captain Flint their self, yeah, it was pecking at the piece of bark she'd been keeping better watch than any human being who thus announced my arrival with her wearisome refrain. Yeah. Nice, yeah, yeah. He turns, I love how he like he turns to run, and then just goes slam into somebody who's already up. And then he

Brandon  1:17:14

Yeah, yeah. And he right into the arms of another person. Oh, no,

Collin  1:17:21

and then we hear,

Brandon  1:17:22

bring a torch. Oh, when my capture was thus assured, man, talk about out of the frying pan into the fire, or some say, escaping goblins to be caught by wolves.

Collin  1:17:44

Yes, exactly, exactly what people say, Yes, nice, nice pole.

Brandon  1:17:54

Gosh,

Collin  1:17:57

that's right. Bringing it back. Bring it all, the way. Oh, my goodness,

Brandon  1:18:04

so so we leave Jim this weekend. Great peril,

Collin  1:18:08

great, great marital danger,

Brandon  1:18:11

even more so than he got himself in before. Yes, right? He had just overcome some danger. He was feeling good about himself. He was like, Oh man, these pirates sure are terrible. Sure hope I don't run into any of them again. Oh, no, that's what them again.

Collin  1:18:26

Literally walked right up to them. So could not have done, man. I'm just like, okay, okay, I'm ready. I'm ready. Yeah, see what happens here. There we go. So, almost done,

Brandon  1:18:42

right? That'll be part next week. Start part six. So should I have two more to go? I was looking there's like seven here. So if it was do three and four,

Collin  1:18:54

yep, that's fine.

Brandon  1:18:56

Finish her up. So here we go. Boom. We'll see how Jim deals with this new reality, because this isn't good. Um, no, I think it's, I think it's extra bad, right? Because, like, this, this whole the two previous chapters are like, like we talked about, it's like setting in, just how bad these dudes actually are right. I think he's, he's actually realized now how bad and how dangerous these pirates are, and now he's just stumbled in to the lion's den and is, oh yeah, completely taken by them. So I think, I think now, like he realizes, like, oh, oh. I think he has some sense of how bad this might be. Like, where before he was just like, Oh, those scallywags are such rare escalate pirates. Now he's like, Oh, no,

Collin  1:19:57

yeah. Because. Is, yeah, and, I mean, he how, he kind of like, Oh, they're dumb, because they're described as kind of comical in a lot of cases, like, while scary, a lot of a lot of the interactions are,

Brandon  1:20:11

they are drunks, right? They are singing weird, yeah, they're not like, there's not a lot of danger, really, it's been, like, part of the narrative here, like, it's like, oh, this is inconvenient, or oh, this is terrible. But I feel like we've realized that, like, Oh, this is, like, actually dangerous, yes, right? And again, because he's he's been completely isolated now, right? For so long, he has nobody else there, no captain, no doctor, not even any squire, not even Ben Gunn, right to be there. And so he's, like, so isolated. And he has been so for,

Brandon  1:20:56

you know, a while now that

Brandon  1:21:01

I think, like, he, like you said he was so ready to be back that he wasn't thinking, like, normal, right? He was, like, so ready to be back with his people, yeah, and away from the pirates that he kind of rushed into this whole mess, and now he is completely surrounded by pirates. And he's like, he's definitely just like, oh,

Brandon  1:21:28

oh no. And what I like getting out of this song exactly,

Collin  1:21:33

what a what a claustrophobic feeling right to be like, Oh my gosh, there is. I just clawed and fought my way to get a, you know, far from this guy. And now right back in, right back in. There we go.

Brandon  1:21:59

Good stuff. I'm excited. Yeah, me too, going fast now that is true. Yeah, we're definitely hot it up now, because for a long time it was kind of like, all right, Robert, let's let's go. But he's never been like, real bad. But like now it's definitely so pretty good stuff here. So I have

Speaker 1  1:22:21

a haiku to leave you with. Aha, right? Hey, boom, boom, there we go.

Brandon  1:22:29

Inspire brought to you by walking the streets of Copenhagen, Denmark.

Collin  1:22:37

Okay, I'm buying There we go.

Brandon  1:22:42

Vibrant colors, burst Twixt, gray skies and cobblestones stopping

Collin  1:22:49

passers by.

1:22:55

Nice. I like that

Collin  1:22:59

very Yeah, cobblestones, okay, I'm there. I see it. Boom, all right,

Brandon  1:23:05

division, boom.

Collin  1:23:12

Very nice. Good one. I love it. Okay, well, we will continue our journey into

1:23:20

Treasure Island,

Collin  1:23:21

peril, peril indeed, see

Brandon  1:23:25

if there's actually any treasure on this island. See if that comes up ever again. I don't know

1:23:29

are

Brandon  1:23:31

kind of have forgotten about that. But you know, oh,

Collin  1:23:40

oh, so we'll, we'll see what pair other parallel Jim can get into and out of in the same chapter. No doubt. Very good, so we will do that next time. All right, okay, very good. Love you. Love you too. Bye. Bye, you.