santa pig boxers
Brandon loves repetitive tasks. Collin loves Tom Bombadil. We love fantastical thinking.
Repetitive tasks…
Mr slugworth
Collin is closeted
$30,000…
Everywhere a sign…
Signage quandary
Signal flag
Finding your santa pig boxers…
Tom Bombadil
Terms from the yiddish language
We blame Mimi
Coffee Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58grYzCcfHI
Fantastical thinking
Brandon’s Haiku:
Listen but not hear
Chronic misunderstanding
Change comes from within
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SPEAKERS
Brandon, Collin Funkhouser
Collin Funkhouser 00:04
Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon, Colin, and Aaron. On this week's show, Santa pig boxers? What the fourth one, the fourth one stayed up. That's pretty much it is really all I can think of in situations like this where, for reasons unknown, it was,
Brandon 00:32
no one knows why that could be it. Like, I love it when you have to do repetitive tasks, right? And, you know, you always just do the exact same thing, especially on electronic devices. So, you go to the email, Let's hypothetically, right, hypothetically, you go to an email, you click a button. It says open launcher. You click Yes. And then the launcher opens. I love it when one of those steps fails for absolutely no reason. Like I click the Open launcher and it was just like, now
Collin Funkhouser 01:13
what? didn't do that, right? What
Brandon 01:15
if I What if I did it? Right? And it's like, it's not like I like I tried to I've been trying to do this since like, 15 minutes before we were supposed to start first time. Oh, no. And it was just like, I usually it sits there does a thing and then it like comes on right? It just sat there and then like that's like what? Yeah, What? What?
01:39
Rather, gosh, golly.
Brandon 01:43
Rather not. Yeah, and I don't even like the website and I like manually signed in. And then it like I just pasted the meeting code in there. And then it took me to the thing and it said overload and I said yes, and it was like
01:58
Nah, bro, what
Collin Funkhouser 02:02
you're asking kind of a lot of me here buddy. Could you just back off for a little bit? Oh, the
Brandon 02:06
one job that I have to do. Can I just not right now? Rather rather I didn't let the green so late. Oh boy, but I go I gotta go. Yes.
02:18
You've got
Brandon 02:20
a matters sneaked in there here just in the nick of time.
02:25
Here we be.
Brandon 02:27
Here creepy slightly late. I mean, I arrives exactly what I wanted to Oh, okay. And I found this Yeah, well, so
Collin Funkhouser 02:35
on on that. Just personally, I was a little glad we were delayed because I had kind of a lot of things to get done. So I
Brandon 02:44
knew that you needed this. sense it practically brother telepathy was like he scurrying my bed.
Collin Funkhouser 02:56
scurrying. It was like, it was like boom, offer letter, boom, blog post, boom, pullquote boom, Episode lead, like, like trying to get all these things down? Because they're just like, Ah, it's so annoying. Like, you know, business hours and like, you gotta do stuff and other people are awake. So I like all this. Like, there's nothing one of you just never slept. Could we all try that then I could actually get stuff done though. So I was frantically trying to get stuff done that I did not get done earlier today for
Brandon 03:30
other things. So
Collin Funkhouser 03:32
no worries. We are oh and I am coming to you from not not the cheesy location. It is it is oh yeah. I am very adjacent to
03:45
or
Collin Funkhouser 03:47
I don't know what we're calling but like Office prime like that is I am I am one wall away from that. Given that the given the well, given the fact that last week somebody was sitting outside the door taking notes. Spoken.
Brandon 04:09
Did you tell the spy that they had to wait just like everyone else to go Monday, right? Indeed.
04:16
These
Brandon 04:17
what was the guy's name from Willy Wonka right and what it was?
Collin Funkhouser 04:21
Gosh, oh, ah. Ah, Mr.
Brandon 04:25
Ah gosh, no, no
Collin Funkhouser 04:29
Gobstoppers formula. Yes, yes. Yeah, no. What I have done is I have temporarily moved into a recording studio in my closet. Oh,
Brandon 04:41
that sounds like a nice air circulation in there.
Collin Funkhouser 04:45
And I'm not so much concerned about that. As much as I am my back and my knees. So willed. Oh, no.
Brandon 04:54
Oh, no. It sounds worse.
Collin Funkhouser 04:57
I'm not a large closet people. and it's got stuff in it like any closets typically do. So I am recording to you from a tiny chair and my all of my things are perched atop a couple paper boxes. And my, my hard case for my travel gear as well. So it is it is a thing so I will do my best to not cramp up and die
Brandon 05:26
in here hasn't thing. Yeah.
Collin Funkhouser 05:27
Thankfully, the one light that is above me is a an LED, so it's not going to get particularly hot in here. Which is good because also, my closets have like no insulation in them. So they are in fact the coldest part of the house at any given day. So that's all that's good, though. We're gonna be refreshed in there. Just Yes. Next to my ears, my hair. I'm touching my long sleeve shirts during our home moving Mimi's vacuum cleaner out of my way. Oh
Brandon 06:04
think of the sound dampening. There's other long sleeve shirts.
Collin Funkhouser 06:07
So yes, I mean this is a plus. For sure. This is a major plus sound dampening. This also means that it is more I am because it is dampened little ears less likely to perk up at the sound of conversation and try and transcribe one half of a conversation for so.
Brandon 06:28
Go. Side note Mr. Slug worth. Ah, you can tell Mr. Slug worth no no. or
Collin Funkhouser 06:36
Mrs. Mrs. Slug worth? Just potentially hypothetically, hypothetically,
Brandon 06:42
if it was
Collin Funkhouser 06:48
the world may never know. And whoa, but it's just we want to be all inclusive here about possibility options. It's definitely necessary. But yeah, so also when I'm moving things around, I'm finding boxes of things that I long forgot that we had. That's always fun. I'm looking at a very,
Brandon 07:10
very old VCR
Collin Funkhouser 07:15
in here, for some reason,
Brandon 07:17
and I hate because you never know when you need a VCR. Right?
Collin Funkhouser 07:21
i Okay, so I was part of what I was doing today was going around to other businesses and in lieu of stopping in and saying things like, Hey, can I put up flyers about my business? I took a different tact today. And just on for no have no want of anything back in return.
Brandon 07:46
I just popped in and was like, Hey, how's business going? What is up? And just imagining you doing all of this while carrying a VCR? I just need you to know that. My head? Well, no, because
Collin Funkhouser 08:03
I'm on my last stop is kind of like a old timey themed ah, candy shop. And in the corner. What was playing but homeloan the original line?
Brandon 08:19
Oh on a massive RCA
Collin Funkhouser 08:26
projection TV screen. Oh, yeah. Tubes. Inside it was an RCA TV inside of like it was a piece of furniture like it was Yeah. Wouldn't around it. And that was a highlight of my day because I was so excited to see this thing still working, chugging along, playing, playing home alone. As as as God
Brandon 08:47
intended. Coming Video Killed the Radio Star, just you know, yes, silently. That song mentions VCRs. And so it's just hit my brain now too. So they go we got just a little peek behind the proverbial curtain here. That's that's fine. What if what happens? Yeah, just
09:05
shut that back.
Brandon 09:08
Fine. It's fine. So no, that was
Collin Funkhouser 09:13
that's what I was doing today, wandering around my city, dropping in places and just for just to I mean, one just to get to know people a bit better. Introduce myself more from the business perspective. And just hear from them how they're doing. And get it helped me get some sense of kind of locally how people are feeling with the economy. And so that was that was not good. Not good people. It's not good.
Brandon 09:46
No, ah, and he did. Right. We established last week it was Gen Z's fault. I seem to recall that was
Collin Funkhouser 09:56
yes, this was good. Good. Good. Listen. That's fine, everybody don't write, you know, emails to one 800 All American street or whatever. No, I had I had, because I was kind of there for apropos of nothing. It was kind of just whatever was on that person's mind. And some were way more vocal about circumstances than I was like, Well, look, I'm need to lead now. Thank you. Bye, bye. Oh, yeah,
Brandon 10:29
I can only imagine the interesting things that people will start spouting off like that, like, oh, oh, no, I need to get out of here.
Collin Funkhouser 10:38
Oh, is that my phone ringing? Gosh, golly.
Brandon 10:41
I need to Oh, the I think I saw Mrs. sluggard. Outside, I
10:45
better go check out. Yes, so run away.
Collin Funkhouser 10:53
And then it was also cool, just to see into some old buildings that had been restored. A couple of business owners had moved into rundown buildings, and they had done really wonderful renovations in them. You know, these big old storefronts that day back to the mid 1800s. And they still had the 10 ceilings up in the up and the, you know, way higher. Okay. So but but, but, you know, those, it's like, those stores have like, 30 foot tall ceilings like you walk in, right? And he's go Yeah, way up high. And he was telling me like, Yeah, I had one, we had an 11 foot drop ceilings. ways.
Brandon 11:47
What a drop. Why, like at that point, like, why even bother? Like? Yeah, that was my thought of like, that is so intense. And it was because sealing this, this building had been turned into just office space, like just boring office, where they just wanted the tiled ceiling, with little cubicles with everything. You can have cool office space people well, and so but this is the this is the mentality of today, but of 3987 No, you cannot have cool things right? Oh, brown, beige, it's everything's
Collin Funkhouser 12:30
all beige and brown, and boring, and blah. So, you know, he came in and ripped all this stuff out. But he was counting his tiles, and he noticed he had to 2222 of these tiles were damaged. And he was was like, well,
Brandon 12:45
I'll just get these replaced. Ah, now, no.
12:53
You may know this. Do you know,
Brandon 12:55
where?
Collin Funkhouser 12:56
Do you hear it? Wait, is that static? Is that me? Do you know where nationally, if you are renovating a building, and you have these tin roof, tile things in there? Do you know where on a national level you would go? In order from a company for these things?
Brandon 13:15
I don't tell me where we're sorry.
Collin Funkhouser 13:18
Wow,
Brandon 13:19
there we go. I was guessing it was somewhere in Missouri. Yes, my guess. But I was like, I still don't know exactly where this could be. So
Collin Funkhouser 13:25
there is there is a company who does these things. And they have like scrounged across the country.
Brandon 13:38
And we have
Collin Funkhouser 13:42
have found old molds to make these n they also will hand make you one if you have one that they don't have on file.
Brandon 13:51
I also feel like they could just cast your seasoning. And then boom, it's mold. Right? Yeah,
Collin Funkhouser 13:58
well, but they have to make sure that that it is pristine. It's not it doesn't come across as damaged or whatever.
Brandon 14:03
25 feet up in the air. If it's like slightly wrong. No one's gonna know. It's okay. Like,
14:10
yes. And so he
Collin Funkhouser 14:11
said, Oh, and they went well. Gosh, golly, we don't have any of these in stock. But don't worry. We'll
Brandon 14:19
make these for you. And oh, yes. I'm sure for a low low reasonable price. Yes, yes. So I,
Collin Funkhouser 14:29
here's here's, what did I say? I said he had 22 of these missing at I don't
Brandon 14:37
think I want to hear this number.
Collin Funkhouser 14:38
Okay, it is it is kids getting these or it's bad. So they went that's fine. We do for 22 of these it's only $30,000
Brandon 14:50
row are using right now.
Collin Funkhouser 14:57
That's just under $1,400 There's a title.
15:02
Wow, that's
Brandon 15:09
the what do you do? Like, we really are we really are living in the second Gilded Age, aren't we? As is not great? Like, what? On Earth? It's insane. Now again, these things are like, they go hard to recreate. And there's a company that does this. So like, I get it. And he to which he responded with? Well, I mean, they're not that bad.
Collin Funkhouser 15:39
So and then he also like, found some because he only did a full renovation on like the front half of this big building. And so he just went into the back half because
Brandon 15:50
he like ripped him out and
Collin Funkhouser 15:53
harvested them from another part of the building. They just
15:56
brought them up to the I
Brandon 15:57
mean, yeah, like the replace the ones in the back with some like, I mean, you can just cast resin some of those, right, somebody's somebody's got to be able to 3d print. It sucks, right? And then stick it up there and in the back. Right? And it's like, paint them white and like oh, tada. Like, right. So and because he he
Collin Funkhouser 16:22
converted the front half of the building to his actual business space and office space and reception area. And he made the back half of it. It's not quite the back half, it's a little less than that into bit, the back bit into an Airbnb. And so he actually, he, he read, he left portions of that still with the drop ceiling. And so he just went up there and scrounged around and brought them down. Yeah, so he was like, I'm not paying $30,000 for that. And I was like, yeah, that's neither Oculus, me.
Brandon 17:00
Yeah. So breezy. That's
Collin Funkhouser 17:03
the so that's the going rate in case you were wondering.
17:07
Yeah, wow.
17:09
Yeah, hope I hope my drop ceiling ones are in stock and guess they're not to custody fabric next time for me, You take over a historic building. And that was that. That was the other thing to have. I've been downtown a lot. But I was really trying to just be present this time, and really looking at business fronts and storefronts and going and talking with people. And I started to notice that there were like, half a dozen or more just like straight up historically registered buildings like no, this entire building is on the registry for of historic significance. And so now I have to go and figure out why. Right? That's what I have to do, because my brain but was just kind of like, surprised. The more I looked, the more I saw all these little plaques all over the place down down.
Brandon 18:09
Pretty cool. Yeah, we had a similar experience last time we were downtown for a thing because I was not like, I usually just like walking by stuff. Right, you know, and I like don't stop and read the signage. It's there, you know, but like, you know, the was walking by the sign. Right. And I was waiting for, I think it was I was getting food from a food truck. I actually think that's what happens. I was walking around and I stopped and looked at the sign at the rail yard here. And I was reading this and all of a sudden I was like, oh, oh, okay. Interesting. And they have this big sign. And it's like this. Like when during the the election campaign, Harry Truman was here. He did one of his little stops here, right that they you know, he's right around the train everything. And so he came here and stopped and did his little stump speeches. Right. Stayed in town for a while because he had friends here and stuff. Last night. Yeah. And LSF and Dewey, the guy that he beat, right? He had friends. He was friends with the, like, the important people in town also he like stayed the night here. Right in the dude's house. during that campaign season, they were all they were both here in little middle of nowhere, Missouri, right hanging out. Okay. staying the night with the mayor because they knew him and stuff like was like, watch. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. I was very, I was like, oh, that's kind of cool, actually. And I didn't know it and it was just On this, like, random side, little sign over there by the fence that you can't really see, because it's not very big. Right? Yeah. thinking a lot about signs recently. That made me think of it right. Some of these I understand. signage, part of the problem with making interesting signs that you can like see is the cost, right? Like we talked about, probably, hopefully not as expensive as ceilings. Right? But that. So this time would be better if it was like bigger, and you could see it from further away. And you could like, if you could, like, see the titles at least, like if it was a larger piece of metal, when the title could be bigger, you might be drawn to, because there's like a series of four. Right? One of the things about some, like race riots that happened that I didn't know about one of them was about how this was apparently like the strawberry capital of Missouri. What? Yeah, what's I don't know. Who knew? There was another one about something else? And then the Truman one, right? Yeah, straw, but who knew strawberries? Right? I don't know. Apparently, that's what the one of the main experts at the rail yard was was strawberries. I didn't. I didn't want to just do this. He knew that. But I was completely flabbergasted by this piece of knowledge. Well, but uh, so there's that sign. And then the other problem is, right. Like, the other side is quandary that I found myself in this week is the city that I teach in, is doing some sort of like Christmas in the Park festivity thing, right. And they've made their little signs. And they're like, the, like the size of the real estate science, you know, they go in the yard, right? Yeah. And they have these all over town. They're in everybody's yard. You drive by him on the road? You cannot read a stinking thing. On this sign. I have no. I had to like, stop. And look, I have no idea what it says. Right. I'm sure that when they were designing this and using this font and this font size on a computer, it looks really cool. Right? But driving by it at 30 miles an hour, you cannot read it. It's not possible. Like just the font style and how big they've made it like the pop is really big. And then like bottom is like really small. You're like, I don't know what the proportions are all wrong. And then like, he's just green. So you're like, I can't What is hat? It's terrible. It's the tear. It's a horrible sign. Yeah, I hate the Hubei design. But it's it's not good. It's so bad. It's good. No, I think yeah, that's, that's, that's bad. Oh my gosh, it's so bad. I can't I can't. Man yesterday, right. I was reminded of my long standing like annoyance, with a bumper stickers that are the size of business cards. Right? Like, I'm sure. Based on the other stickers on the back of this truck. I'm sure I was not actually interested in this person's opinion about anything. Or like why would you? Uh, presumably, bumper stickers are for other people to see. Mm hmm. Yeah, I mean, it's like an outward display of your personality. Or lack thereof, I guess, on your car, which I personally don't think you should put on there just because it looks weird and annoying. But if you must do it, I think that they should be big enough to see or at least like not have text on right now. What's the point? I don't understand why you Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't
Collin Funkhouser 24:19
make any sense because it's like you've got to be so close to those people. You're just asking to be rear ended like the ones that are like
Brandon 24:27
pictures. Like okay, fine, whatever. Like you can it represents something maybe I don't know what it is because I'm not like a Jeep enthusiast or whatever. But like, cool. I just said that because Jeeps are usually the ones have like 20,000 projectors on them. But like we're like big like weird trucks. But the things that are on the big weird trucks can't read them. Like why? Why? Why? Go through all that trouble to buy it and put it on your car and presumably want other people to see it and they can't Right, like, I don't know, I totally get it. I'm not saying I probably wanted to read this anyway. But like, still, it's just,
25:11
it's just annoying. It's just really weird. Like,
Brandon 25:13
I don't understand, like, I understand if it's like a, you know, sports team thing lab, like, that's recognizable, and I can see it clearly. And I can be like, Oh, you are a sport enthusiast. Right? Yeah, I can see the one that looks like a, you know, like some sort of off road thing. Cool. I can see the one that's big foot for some reason, but like, little teeny tiny text and stuff. And like, what'd he do it? Man? I don't know. Why, huh? Yeah. Like you want to express yourself, but like, I don't know, just just a little bit, right. Just a little bit of expression. Just a little bit, but not a lot. But then like, No, put it on my core, like, Well, then don't even do it. Like, I don't know. Right? I just don't understand the point of bumper stickers in general, but like, teeny tiny ones. I really don't understand the purpose. Yeah, I'm passionate about this. Enough to have a bumper sticker. But I'm not I'm not passionate about this enough to make it really apparent about what I'm doing. Yet to share it with you all. And again, do I actually probably want do I care? No. Like, that's the other part of the equation here is like, do I care about this person's opinion? Probably not. Right? Yeah. At the end of the day? No. Right. There's a very few exceptions, where I've read a bumper sticker and gone. Hmm, that was clever. Oh, like five times in my life. Right? That's probably
Collin Funkhouser 27:07
five best times in your life. I'm
27:09
sure I mean,
Brandon 27:10
times, times, right. Ya know, about the quantity of value that these bumper stickers added to me, because I can't recall what any of them said. But I know at the time I smoked. Right. But like so I don't know about that. But yeah, that's close enough. Maybe? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. So yeah, I don't know. So know who they're for? Because who's reading them? I guess you're just reassured that you know what's there Right? Because no one else can read. Unless they stop at a parking lot and go like squint and be like, what is it right then they're staring at your truck like Clint Eastwood like can't read that like
Collin Funkhouser 28:06
oh, yeah, that's what they want. They want the Clint Eastwood look on everybody's faces. That's their real goal.
Brandon 28:11
Maybe that's what they got for me today. What an anger and rage sent their way. That rage disappointment. Okay, I'm gonna rage a bumper sticker. I mean, except for except for the parents that pull through like the child drop off line they have like profanity bumper stickers on their car. Ah, now we're talking like at school like the irony here is these are the parents that are like I don't know where my kids learning this stuff like you don't think it? I think if you had the window of your car
Collin Funkhouser 28:55
let's just take a walk around and just think think of something right do you remember what's on your back
Brandon 29:02
window? Do you even forget it was there by we have a couple parents like that everywhere. Sometimes they're there when I get to school and I walked by the cars I'm just like good night Why? Why Yeah, that's That's not necessary. It is not like a small children here man. One This is Sir this is cool. Definitely can't wear that inside the building and Taylor now so again, Oh, gosh. So yes, that's yeah. Anyway, that's my sign Rant over. I can't read that Christmas sign. Because it took me like a whole week to figure out what it said. Because it's so again, I'm sure it looks cute in like Canva or wood. Have you designed it in on your desktop computer, but printed on the real estate side and stuck in the ground next to the road? Not helpful. Now,
Collin Funkhouser 30:13
you see that a lot people, and it's hard because when you're like, I see this most when people are making signs for like yard sales, right? The yard sale signs were Yeah. at your kitchen table. Right? What's your permanent marker?
30:30
It looks big right now. Chicks huge.
Brandon 30:33
And then, like 50 feet away, like traveling
Collin Funkhouser 30:38
at 50 miles an hour. All of a sudden, it's like, this is completely incomprehensible. Yeah.
Brandon 30:44
There it was like a pin, like you did it. Didn't even go for the Sharpie, my guy like I can't. What do you do?
Collin Funkhouser 30:52
At that point? It's just like, it's just you might as well just hang a flag on a corner. And it signals to people that something is over here in this general direction. Like, yeah, that's how we've used them a lot of like, I don't know the address that's on that because it's completely illegible. But I'm going to assume there's something down this roads, like creeping through the neighborhood like left, right? No, no, sometimes you can see
Brandon 31:15
the arrow like a like, Okay, going left there reminds me, do you remember? In the Boy Scout trailer, the signal flag. There was a pair? I don't know how long they were in there. So maybe there was a pair of like, Santa's pig boxer shorts.
31:46
Yes, I
Brandon 31:47
did. Why? We did have because we went were we went to a couple hikes sometimes. And like, the entrance to the road was like really hard to see. And so they would take that out and just stick it by the turn off. And so the other people that were coming would be like, there it is. That's I've got it like, yeah, it was like a secret signal. We did not get there by accident. No, we turned down this road. And it was so they were like really gaudy. They're really weird. They're like these green Santa pig boxers, right. And they just, they were, they were just holding the stick. And if they were, if they were like if they got separated, right, if the different drivers got separated, they would just take it up to the turn that we've turned off on to go to the campsite. And they would just stick it out by the turn. So people would know where to go. You know, and that
32:47
that is so it's one of those things
Collin Funkhouser 32:49
of like, how am I going to tell this person that I'm lost or like not like that this is us, right? And yeah, and it's so it's like, how important and like literally the rest of your life to be like, No, this is the thing you'll know when you see it. Oh, right, Santa pig, like whatever that sounds like. Now I'm trying to think through of like all the Santa pig kinds of things in my own life that are like, no, no, when I say this, or when I do this, or whenever that's like, that's my signal. That's my signal. Like, what's your finding? Ah, there's my next blog post. Firing.
Brandon 33:24
Yes. Oh my gosh. I'm kinda
Collin Funkhouser 33:29
not even joking about that.
Brandon 33:31
Well, yeah, you're welcome. That one's for free. We are there. Oh, gosh, I completely
Collin Funkhouser 33:35
forgotten about those. I had
Brandon 33:37
to do until you said like, until you're talking about like, looking for the specific thing that tells you like, oh, yeah, like
33:50
oh, I
Brandon 33:51
ever we use a button do like, they're just like, get the flag. Like, exactly. Yeah.
Collin Funkhouser 34:02
You never are gonna have to question if you're on the right path. And you see the sandpit.
Brandon 34:06
Yeah, no, no, like, oh, that's the one. That's where I need to go. Oh. But it's like that kind of Yeah. Like, it could even be like,
Collin Funkhouser 34:22
finding those things. Okay, now. Yeah, I mean, now I'm really abstract. Sorry, I've had to move away to like, was falling asleep. Now it's like, it really is finding
Brandon 34:32
those are those things like, when you
34:36
are at loss, like or when you're about to be lost? Like there are some or you're you're going down? When you're I don't know, just like, how many times it's like, Man, I really wish there was something just like really blatant to help me out.
Collin Funkhouser 34:53
And how many times we wish we had our own Santa pig. Okay,
Brandon 34:55
sure. Yeah, it's like you just need a sign and then bam.
Collin Funkhouser 35:01
First is to cringe and then you go okay, there we go. That's,
Brandon 35:04
that's what I needed. I like it. That's it stands out. Right. It's a different it's memorable. You're not going to forget Santa's big boxers. And yeah. Yeah. Clearly that was like 25 years ago. So that's still still memorable? Yes. Oddly irrelevant. For some reason.
Collin Funkhouser 35:38
Yeah. And for unfortunately, irrelevant.
Brandon 35:41
Yeah. No, it's all good. I think. I think maybe, we'll see. Well, we are, we are,
Collin Funkhouser 36:02
I tell you that we're reading through the Fellowship of the Ring, kids.
Brandon 36:07
Ah, no. Okay. Well, this was
Collin Funkhouser 36:14
we have been bouncing back and forth between like, Hardy Boys and or other mystery lives, kind of those kind of realm of books. And we had finished up the Hobbit. So we read a couple Hardy Boys. And I asked, like, what do you guys want to read next? And they gave him a couple of options. And they're like, what's this? And I was like, Well, this is, this is a book that's kind of from that same, like, this is a continuation of that story. So they wanted to do that. So tonight, we were reading Well, the past couple nights we've been reading about everybody's favorite character. Were Bill Tom Bombadil.
Brandon 36:53
Yes, yes. Yes. Which were they like, Dad? What? Why is this in here? Like?
37:04
You don't have no idea. Yeah, the
37:07
just, yep. And
Collin Funkhouser 37:09
then when you're tasked with reading the story aloud, like, ya gotta nail the singing and the rhyming. And so like, I really, like Tom Bombadil voice which has been a little difficult because I've been a bit under the weather. With cough. It's It's such. So that's been fun. But now we got to the point where they
Brandon 37:33
he put on the, the ring. Oh, right. Right.
37:38
And, like, made it disappear. And then I read through that, and I paused and I looked at them. And no, it was, well, he was disinterested, which is fine, right? Lillian was sitting there with her face all scrunched up. And she was like, really thinking, because that's something that I had pointed out several times of like, what the ring can do and like, okay, no, we're gonna pay attention to this. And like, when I read through that, I was like, kind of watching her face. And she was like, her little hand popped up. And she was like, Wait a minute. Like, wow, why? And I was like, these are great questions that these are
Brandon 38:16
the questions he's talking scholars cannot answer. No,
Collin Funkhouser 38:21
no, they cannot. Like, did that feel. That's that's kind of an interesting discussion. And then we finished up tonight, from the borough whites, saving them. And I had started it and I thought I had timed it well enough so that we would end right before the scary part. But then I kind of like, got into the scary part. And then I had to go long to get past the scary part to
Brandon 38:47
resolve it. We can just leave it at the scary part. That's not our bedtime stories. were great. We have to resolve this conflict, right.
Collin Funkhouser 38:57
Yes, and I had to get through all the point where I feel like I now we're singing the song. Remember the song the songs come for help. So guess who's probably going to help? Right? Oh, there's his. Here's his heads, you know, that beard and all coming to the thing and yep, we're all
Brandon 39:18
but I love I love Tom Bombadil. So much, even though he is a completely opaque, opaque character
Collin Funkhouser 39:28
in the like an insurer. I know. Some people will complain about him, because it's kind of like a non sequitur
Brandon 39:36
and stuff. And it is really but it really has to the whole thing. But I don't like he really, to me. Not just these like
Collin Funkhouser 39:48
ridiculous and funny and I would love to live in his house. But
39:56
But to me, it just shows how much more To the world, there's just like, completely unknown. And I know even Tolkien had spoken about or written about, like, yeah, sometimes mysteries aren't supposed to be solved. And sometimes things are not supposed to be a note are supposed to be left unknown. And I'm like, Well, yeah, knock that out of the park with this character, because like, what is
Brandon 40:19
going on here? Yeah, I think you bring up a good point, right? I think part of his, the reason that he's there is that, you know, Tolkien is trying to talk about the bigness of the world, and how there is things in it that are not really explainable.
40:36
You know?
Brandon 40:39
Like, because, you know, Tom Bombadil just appears to be like, dude, right. But when the way he talks and the things that he talks about when they asked him how old he is, and like the answer that he gives, it's like, what? Way yours like, do dry here almost like a forest, like spirit type of thing. You know what I mean? Like it, it ties into kind of the art creation mythology. All right. So, again, sorry, I'm about to nerd supernova on you right now. But, like, in the beginning,
Collin Funkhouser 41:19
well, okay, sorry, I gotta stretch my other leg.
Brandon 41:23
In the beginning, right there was there was a loop guitar, right? That's right. So I'll summarize. Basically, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip to like, this is like the god figure in Tolkien universe, right? The supreme deity, right. And he creates the universe through song. Right? Like, he's sings, it's the music, right? The music of the INR is what it's called in the Sumerian. So he begins this song, right? And then like, his children become created, right? These are the gods like montway, and Vare. Like all these people, right? Or omae, these things, they then begin singing their own song in creation. And like, their melodies, mixing with the melody of a loop guitar, is what begins to create the world. Right. So like, there's all this room for just like stuff, because it was created through Him. And then his children singing, like their harmonies created things in the world. So like, people don't even know they all of the gods don't even know what's out there. Because it was created in this like, mysterious manner. Right? And so that's how Tolkien explains how the world has weird stuff in it. Yeah, is that is that it's like, you know, it was area's plan all along. But the plan is really just, like, unknowable. And he's just like, Yeah, that's fine. Don't worry about it. Because that's where the evil comes from, like one of the children is, of course, Melkor. And he tries to sing dissonance. And the dissonance creates the evil things in the world. Right? That he's singing against the music, right? This is how they explain the creation of evil in the presence of all that. So it's really interesting, kind of weird take on creation. But anyway, that explains that's kind of like where a lot of people just kind of slot Tom Bombadil. They're saying, Yeah, you know, he got somewhere in there.
43:43
He just popped up. And
Brandon 43:48
he resulted from this. I don't know how old you know, he's from the beginning of time. You showed up there, right? Probably one of the goddesses of the forest like, dreamed up and dropped him there. And boom, there he was forever. Yeah. Whatever.
Collin Funkhouser 44:05
Yeah. Cuz I know, he's been described as like, Oh, is he like, like a forest? Gandalf? Basically,
Brandon 44:11
but like, you know, he's,
Collin Funkhouser 44:14
obviously Gandalf is worried about the corruptible power of the ring. But Tom Bombadil is like, Huh, what? No, this is I don't care. Like, it's so like, and, and so I very much more gravitate to the idea of like, no, he's, not only is he sure he could probably be like, outside of the total conflict and everything but like, he's very nature, like, at his core of like, who he is. This is not important to him. Right. Like, it's more simpler, more naturalistic perspective, because also like, Tolkien obviously had misgivings in, you know, his destruction of his country English countryside and like the effects of that but like, No, he is so pure in nature and inform. It's he's inherent in inherently resistant to corrupting influences big because of of exactly who he is.
Brandon 45:06
Yeah. Which makes me think he's some sort of product of the music from like Ivana right, who is like one of the children of louvered tar who's like portrayed in the Summerlin is like creating gardens and Yeah, hurry and flowers, right? Like, she's like, that's like her deal, right? Because they all kind of have like, Greco Roman like, roles, right? Where they're like, you're the hunting God, and you're the, you know, the ocean one, and you're the agreement, right? They kind of fall into those categories. So it makes me feel like it's got something to do with like her and her, like people, you know, because the way that they care, he cares about the forest. And he like, is there protecting the forest and doing all that stuff? Right, we see that role filled by other people throughout the token mythology, right, like we have the door is right in the in the old times, right, with the melanin and the girdle of melanin, protecting the forest and the woodland and the kingdom, the elves, and then we have, you know, the infantry beard off other places, and their role is, you know, nature protecting blah, blah. And I think he fits in, kind of in that way, you know, where, like, these other beings are like, you know, they're very pure, they're very thinking about like, the natural world and its existence, right? Pretty sure. Treebeard is not very corruptible dude, either. So like, I think he fits in there in that realm. So it makes sense in context of like, what of other things that do exist, right. But he does come out of left field in the story, like it's just it's just like, what, what, what, what's happening? Where's this guy? But overall, like mythology, mythologically? That's a word, that's hard to say sometimes it fits a lot better than
47:05
you think. Right? If
Brandon 47:06
it actually makes a lot more sense, like in the grand scheme, nothing. Yeah. In the
47:11
in, in the grand scheme of the world that is that's been created here. It's not unlike it's not unexpected to find a character such as he right still around and doing his thing.
Brandon 47:27
No, not at all. Right. And then sorry, go ahead. No, it's
Collin Funkhouser 47:31
fine. It's just I liked him the story of like, all the lead up to this, like, oh, the willie Windell. Like that's where all the queerness comes from, from the country and stuff. And it's like, oh, that that was Tom Bombadil Sorry, guys.
Brandon 47:47
Oops, it easy.
Collin Funkhouser 47:51
It was kind of funny of like, oh, gosh, no, that's where all the weird thing. No, that's why we don't go there. And it sure could be old Manuela like that's probably what they're actually talking about. It's just funny how they kind of overlap and exist in the same part two, so like, it's an old man willows or Tom Bombadil that people are like, no, no, it's too much.
Brandon 48:06
It's really weird over there. People stay away. Yeah, right. It's kind of like, maybe it's just Tom doing weird things. And somebody saw it was like, That's messed up. I'm not going over there again. Because they're
Collin Funkhouser 48:17
like, you know, they're like, oh, there's tale of paths that change and and who keeps them up? And for what reason and why and it's like, that's just Tom like walking around. Like he does sound like
Brandon 48:27
Tom lovettsville just like doing whatever for no reason at all. off on a jaunt in the forest, like talking to squirrels, right, like, who knows what he's doing over there.
Collin Funkhouser 48:37
He's collecting lilies. You know, for for gold berries. That's all he's really doing.
Brandon 48:43
Yeah, could be it. Right. Who knows? Like, planting a tree or? Yeah, no, yeah. That's fair. It's a misinterpretation of Tom Bombadil. I like it.
Collin Funkhouser 48:58
That's my head canon.
Brandon 49:00
It's rack tracks. We'll see. But I like that's not too far off. Right.
49:08
Oh, it's just anyway,
Collin Funkhouser 49:09
I just don't know. So that's where we're past them. We've we've overcome the borrower whites and we are looking towards towards things that had to be I did kind of have to fast over a little bit of the intensity of like the arm reaching out from around the door. And I was like, anyway, so when this is happening?
Brandon 49:29
Probably good plan for bedtime. Right? You know? Yeah.
Collin Funkhouser 49:31
Was like none of that Tom is here. Hello. Hey, everybody's
49:35
happy. Yeah.
Brandon 49:38
The joviality level is ramped up to 9000 here just happy fun time.
Collin Funkhouser 49:42
Yes.
49:45
Yeah. And yeah, it was I was reading and I was like, so do you think they're gonna get you know, I try and try and prime that pump a little bit of like, you know, especially of like, do you think something's going to happen like what's gonna happen before we move forward? And then whenever
Collin Funkhouser 50:03
Frodo start seeing that songs really was like Jobab like, yes. We
Brandon 50:17
like it coming to save the day? Say how many? Yep.
Collin Funkhouser 50:25
That's, that's been our reading adventure. It is. It is great fun. Great fun to be had.
Brandon 50:31
It's exciting. I like it. Time. Thought, no. I had a thought and then I can't remember. I can't think of my thought. Oh, it's bother. bother. I say the phrase. Oh, they will say the other day.
Collin Funkhouser 50:53
I say tuk tuk. Because obviously, it looks like rain. Like
Brandon 50:58
I say I went all the time, like,
Collin Funkhouser 51:01
or even in the frame, in the form of being like scolded like, oh, they were taught it like, taught like, is it? And
Brandon 51:11
Megan looked at me and went, what? It was like, you know, like,
Collin Funkhouser 51:16
like, no, like, sculpt. And she's like, that's not a thing people
Brandon 51:20
say that was like it is because I say it. Yeah. So we clearly didn't get it out of nowhere. Right anyway. I mean, maybe not. Maybe we did. I don't know. But like Isaiah, maybe a little bit. Student says it too. And I don't know if that's because I say it or if he said our own. But Susan says also. Okay, that's it. That's awesome. Mostly we say it looks like rain. Like if we're out walking
Collin Funkhouser 51:52
as ones as one must. That's one must. That's true. That's true.
Brandon 52:05
Speaking of I was thinking this week, right? I don't know what I just say things right in, like, you know, you say words, right? English, not weird. English is a language made up of like 75 different languages together. I realized that there is one addition that makes English just much more fun to say, right? There's a group of words that just enliven. And it makes it more fun to talk about. I have of course, speaking about terms from the Yiddish language. Do you use many Yiddish words in your life? Because I don't know why I do this, or I blame memes for this actually. I don't know why. It was a thing she did. But I do a lot, right. Is there several words that I say? Just like, randomly, and they're all Yiddish? And I don't know why. Because I am not Yiddish at all. And yeah, or and I have no heritage in that regard. And I don't know where I pick these words up, but I do they are a part of my vocabulary. Right and, yeah, I don't know. I don't know where it comes from. Oh, I say. I mean, okay.
Collin Funkhouser 53:25
I mean, it's simple things like to schlep like I say, schlep a lot.
Brandon 53:30
I like to i i still get sick, often. Stick a person. Right? Uh, less, slightly less often. I do use the word chutzpah. hutzpah. Good one. Yeah, I'm use that one.
Collin Funkhouser 53:43
I do. schmooze? schmooze. Yep. I was gonna say schmooze is a great one. kibitz as a candidate for a convention
Brandon 53:51
convention. Yeah, yeah. I use those two. I use qubits more and I think that one is because of memes right? I'm pretty sure she said that word a lot. Yes,
Collin Funkhouser 54:01
that was her that was her go to
Brandon 54:04
for sure. And of course schmuck won a lot to write and then obviously boy, I say that one all the time. But like are they right I say but like I do I save us all
Collin Funkhouser 54:22
Yeah, I do. I do say these a lot like when you when you and honestly like even when you were like oh do you speak zero do you say yes terms? I was like I don't think so. So I had to Google I was like common get your get his terms or whatever. And as read through some lists, as you were talking I was like, Oh my gosh, I
54:39
don't know. I say all of the
54:42
and why is why do I do it's so weird. Yeah,
Brandon 54:46
yeah, I don't know. Took us it took us
54:50
it took us but I do like
Brandon 54:56
Right. Part of this I think there has been people in my life that say these words and I pretty You're one of them was our grandmother, for whatever reason, but also it's just more fun to say. No, this was a lot more fun to say that. Yeah.
55:13
Oh schmutz did we say? Oh,
Brandon 55:15
I don't think so. Okay, she must have Schmuck, but yeah, yeah, you got a little What son? Yeah. I say that. I do.
Collin Funkhouser 55:24
Like, oh, look at the schmutz here. I gotta get the stick. Did we say schmooze oohs? Yeah, we did say schmooze. Okay, okay, yeah. Slip you said slept in. Ah, yeah, that was the first one. That's the one where I talked about that a lot of like, oh, my gosh, like this across here. Yeah, we got me over here. Yeah, vetch Yeah. So so far, I think we've talked about schlepped kvetch
Brandon 55:47
schmooze it's stick.
Collin Funkhouser 55:55
And then we we had what was it? schmutz? Yeah, schmutz. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so. And of course, boy.
Brandon 56:06
I was just thinking about this this week, for some reason, right? I was thinking about it. And I was just like, I actually say a lie. Say I have a lot of a lot, right. I believe the official be a dish word is abyssal. A little bit a little tiny bit, right. When I use more, or these words in my vocabulary that I recognize, right, and again, number one, I think it's because they're just fun. They just fun. Right? And I think some of them are because of memes, right? Uh, huh. No. Some of them are at least Yeah, we blame our grandma. The big thing is definitely her. I know that one. For sure. Because I can hear her voice when I say qubits like. Ah, yeah, no, I, I would definitely say that. That's a that's an AMI thing. And I, you know, it's, yeah, it's
Collin Funkhouser 57:13
so it's so funny because my brain like I said, my brain didn't even register those as actual Yiddish term. So I think I'm gonna have to dig deep in here now and figure out, I think needs to be employing more of these actually. Yeah, I think so. I
Brandon 57:25
think that's what I was thinking is also back because I had the same realization. I was like, I think I use a couple. And then I read some of those lists earlier, like yesterday, and it was like, Oh, wait, no, it's actually it's actually a lot of these as well. Ah, I wonder why. Random Midwest guy uses so much. Oh,
Collin Funkhouser 57:48
I found another one. Okay, somebody who goes off on a on a long tangent, right, they're gonna stand up and give you a what? Their spiel? What's your spiel?
57:57
Shall you say that one a lot to
Brandon 58:04
me, give me the spiel here like yeah, I
Collin Funkhouser 58:07
was talking about excess telling Megan about the story of what I had to go to that I had to I chose to go to this like branding thing or whatever about marketing whatever, like oh, man, he had such a spiel. Like okay, so this is one that I don't use a lot but let's say clutch.
Brandon 58:27
Clutch this one too. I think everybody uses that
Collin Funkhouser 58:30
one. No, but that's that was and this is the old one. i The only reason I know this. This next one is because of Mike Myers. Planks. And when he say hi, I'm kidding. verklempt all
58:46
the all the talk amongst
58:47
yourselves
58:58
clip
59:15
coffee, the coffee, the coffee and the coffee. Want me talk? Yeah.
Brandon 59:23
Oh, yes. That's,
59:25
that's the only reason that's the only time I've actually heard
59:30
that term used.
Brandon 59:31
Oh, my gosh. Yes.
59:37
What was he saying is like, talk amongst yourselves. Ah, oh, I'm
59:40
just getting the clarity. That's what he says. Yeah, he
Collin Funkhouser 59:42
says I'm getting the clip and then he tries to give them a topic to talk about. He was like, like,
59:47
I think that was a joke. He would like tell him to talk about
Brandon 59:49
something. Yes. And yeah, like, wave his hand and circle. Yeah, but
59:53
there's something like a horse fish is neither a horse or fish. Oh, yeah. discuss amongst yourselves. Yeah. Hello
Brandon 1:00:06
okay, I
1:00:09
always schlub, right?
Brandon 1:00:11
Which love Oh it's like sloppy, right? Yes sloppy. You're like, Man what a slob right? I've said that before definitely no, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one Okay, well, i i
Collin Funkhouser 1:00:29
Okay, let's this this is good
Brandon 1:00:38
oh I think you know anyway i I'm looking forward to the first time I hear ah, Lillian and Osa was one of those words, man yes all right gotta get him going here got it
Collin Funkhouser 1:00:52
yeah okay so goal over Thanksgiving All right lay on kick
Brandon 1:00:57
gotta pick a couple of good ones Uh huh just like keep using see if they see if they pick up the vernacular here all right we got exactly like it I like I like his plan is Oh I thought about this the other day what is it that I say? You're futzing right seeing
1:01:33
oh that's an around I say that all the time.
1:01:35
Oh my gosh,
Brandon 1:01:37
yes. Yeah yeah, I
Collin Funkhouser 1:01:44
I feel like futzing is a is a good one because that describes what I do an awful lot like Oh, God.
Brandon 1:01:49
Oh, yeah, same right. So I
Collin Funkhouser 1:01:51
I actually realized the other day something that's key to my
1:01:57
act like mental health of like, so. Okay, so anyway, so is it fuzzing is a key Yes. No, I don't I need something to futz with. Of like, like, just messing with messing around for no real like, aim or purpose. Like, this is very therapeutic for me. And
Collin Funkhouser 1:02:19
allows me to, like it's how I decompress and allow my brain to like, open up. Because the other thing that I was working on the other day, oh, I was out. I'm like, you sound
Brandon 1:02:30
like dad right now. Like hardcore, just so you know, like, right?
Collin Funkhouser 1:02:33
No, I know. But it was like, Oh, I've got this media server in the basement. I've always wanted to get it to make my own personal VPN to route back to my home network whenever we're out and about. So it's like, is that important? No. Do I need to do that? No. Does it really help anything for any reason? No. But me, like, futzing around with it poking and prying with a purpose or no purpose really of like, can I get this to work? Can I work with this? Like, it's so relaxing to me in those moments, because it's like, there's no pressure for this to actually do anything with I'm just, I'm just fucking and it's. It's true,
Brandon 1:03:17
I guess in my days. That's a good point. It's a good point. Sometimes I use it in the context of Susan and I will joke about it right because I'll I'll be like, What are you doing in the kitchen? And she'll just look at me and go let's see. What are you doing? futzing? Yeah yeah. I think it's
Collin Funkhouser 1:03:49
it's a good word. And it's a good word.
Brandon 1:03:51
Maybe I need some more futzing in my life. And maybe that's what I need to do. I can try this out here as well. Oh, my gosh, my boys. Giving a little clamp day yeah,
Collin Funkhouser 1:04:06
I'm getting I'm getting the climb out that Oh, boy.
Brandon 1:04:09
Ah ah, oh, it's bad.
Collin Funkhouser 1:04:16
No, I was because this is also something that I was thinking about. To have, have had the the importance of or utility of magical thinking. I don't know if this is something you do it all.
Brandon 1:04:31
I definitely have never used those words in that order. Before I can say that.
Collin Funkhouser 1:04:38
I think what I'm really talking about here is like,
Brandon 1:04:40
okay, like David Copperfield, what do you got for me? Yeah, no,
1:04:44
no, but like, like, maybe
Collin Funkhouser 1:04:46
maybe better phrases like fantastical thinking of, of, you know, imagining your imagination like daydreaming, putting yourself in weird scenarios or like, pre based just very basically pretending
Brandon 1:05:00
Yes, I grew up in Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, I am familiar with a high school and equally so that's where, like, of, of
Collin Funkhouser 1:05:13
I was trying to process our last our last conversation of like, how to become an entrepreneur and I was still really angry about this. Like, I still, I'm so frustrated. I mean,
Brandon 1:05:27
rightly so. Honest. Okay, like you it's okay to be mad at that. No, I, but as Mr. Rogers would say, what do you do with the mad that you feel? Colin, exactly? What do you do?
Collin Funkhouser 1:05:41
What do you do? Do you do? So I have been processing this. And also, it's kind of reinforced today, when I was talking with some other business owners in the area just came again, like, just hey, I want to introduce myself talk. How's your business doing? How can we support you? What do you want to do? Like blah, blah, like, not that I have any resources to give, but like, Hey, we're here for you, we want to talk so but like, you got these tennis balls, tennis balls, since the poop bag holders, you want some of those. But like, like, the imagination required to bring something into existence that was not there. Before that people had looked at the same set of, of data points. And where they saw one thing you see another like, that's part of entrepreneurship does this kind of almost fantastical thinking of like, well, no, let's try this brand new thing. Let's try this. Let's see what these are. If I put these together in a slightly different way, what could be an outcome and being able to think of that vision and project that vision into something and then start doing things about it? Like, that's actually more in line with that spirit? That as opposed to taking like, business, finance, introduction? Sorry, you kind of figure all that stuff out on the back end. But to be able to go, Hey, let me imagine a world where, like, just starting with that of like, okay, let's imagine a world where there's a dedicated brick and mortar business, to a lady who makes her own watercolor paints, and sells them internationally. Ah,
Brandon 1:07:16
I met that person today. Okay, she, she?
1:07:23
She has she's been doing it
Brandon 1:07:24
for eight years, full time. And she, like
Collin Funkhouser 1:07:29
10s and 10s and 10s of 1000s of social media followers, like very successful in this. And that's like, that's her shtick, Hey, look.
1:07:42
Who, who would
Collin Funkhouser 1:07:44
be able to envision a world where that's something like, except an imaginative thinker, somebody who can look at reality and go, Okay, well, I know what is currently existing in front of me, I'm going to envision something different, and then work towards that. And that as we grow older, that becomes harder, right? Because you do like, it's interesting, because in one hand, you would expect it to become easier. And this is where I want your thoughts. So like, if you didn't think it'd become easier, because you have so much more experience, so you can pull from so much more. But on the other hand, as you gain that experience, like things tend to become more and more concrete. And I guess that's just because it's like, well, I've seen this before. And here's the pattern, and you can't break that pattern. So why even try?
Brandon 1:08:27
Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, you get locked into that. One line of thinking, right, and then you don't, it's hard to see the way out of it, like tunnel vision, almost, you know? Right. Right. So, as I was speaking with people today, it was
Collin Funkhouser 1:08:49
very interesting to hear kind of their take on things or like, why they started or like what they've been trying and just this because the other aspect that this brings into it like this, this experimentation thing of like, that's a creative process, like being able to run and do a true experiment. Like even like the kids that you're teaching of like, that's, that's a that's a hard thing to do. Well, because it is incredibly creative in nature of, I'm going to envision at answering a question that's never been answered before. Or, and I'm going to do it in three or four different ways. It's never been tried and see what happens like that's not that's not easy for a lot
Brandon 1:09:36
of white true to do. Yes, right. Good boy. So I
Collin Funkhouser 1:09:45
say all this to say I was having some fantastical thinking about this, envisioning myself storming a castle. No, I just Reek read and read more broadly people, that's just my takeaway like so I'm, I'm, I'm glad we're going through the Lord of the Rings, because it's kind of like a, again, this. Anyway, that was all those thoughts came everybody like thinking about this kind of trying to process all these things from last week and figure out like, but like, what? Really? Is it? Like what am I trying to get out with this? Why is Why is it so annoying for me to hear about this like entrepreneurship class? And I think that that's one
Brandon 1:10:35
of the aspects of this can be one of the aspects, right? The other aspect, I think, is that like, it doesn't like I feel like as a person that is like, committed to building and improving and growing a business, right? The thought of a person whose sole idea is to like, start something and then leave. It's just kind of annoying, because it's sort of like the antithesis of what you are doing. Right. Like some parts of the similar in that, like, you are always looking for, like new ways to do things or like creative solutions to problems, right. But like, then you want to like, follow through and like, gather the rest of it. Right. And the idea of a person being like, Alright, I'm out is like annoying to you? Which I just, it's annoying to me also. So, like, I get it like, I think but that I think that's where it comes from, right? Because a lot of people not all, not all, I want to make this clear. Not all people that do this are like that. Right? But like, all the people that you see on social media are like, right, right?
1:11:57
About that. They
Brandon 1:11:58
really like those those guys are either terrible. And like I don't like them. No, right. And I, I just can't deal fast. Right? I also come to the realization I'm just too old for social media things, right? Because like, all these people, they're all talking to people that are like, 20. Yeah, that's our target audience. So like, I know that they're dumb. And they're full of it. Right? But like, other people believe them. And that annoys me a lot. Because they don't know that they're dumb and full of it. Right? And that they're lying to you on the internet. Like, it's just like, I think that's the other problem. Like, I'm just too old, like, I just want to look at, like cooking things, right? Or like guitar things or stuff. And then they just keep showing me these people. And I'm like, I don't need go away. No, thank you. It's upsetting me that you exist. All right, I want to do all this nonsense. Get out of here. I think that might be the other problem is I feel like that's where some of your your distressed feelings come from, right? Because again, the a lot of people, not all not all listeners, not all a not singling you out here. But like, you know that the there's no integrating on the idea. Right? I think part of that process that you're talking about like that performing the experiment. The important part of is it is do a thing. You see what happens? You take that information, you do a new thing. Right? And you're iterating right, there's integration that has to happen, because very rarely do you do a thing come up with one idea the first time and that's good. Right? Like, Oh, yes. Which is,
Collin Funkhouser 1:13:57
which is hard for me to get over my head of like, hey, just because you wrote it the first time, or just because you you put the graphic together one time doesn't mean that that's the best it's gonna be.
Brandon 1:14:09
Yeah, right. Like, and so you want to integrate, and you want to change it up and you want to do stuff and you want to do that and you want to keep like, doing things like in my classroom, I think about like this, I think about it, like, you know, every year I'm just like, doing, like, tweaking things and like changing stuff up. I'm adding stuff here and there. I'm doing other things, right. And so like, that's just how I have to think about it. Right. Like I, you know, we're doing largely the same thing, but there are differences here and there. I've prepared differently for things. Because, you know, like, last year, I did a thing and I was like, Oh, I that didn't go quite as well as I thought it was going to so this year before we did it we like I prepared more and I tried to make sure that I explained things differently. And I tried to like make and it went you know better. Right and that's like interesting shouldn't write practicing and doing things over and over again. So like, I think the concept of a person, it's like, yeah, start by who says, right? Yeah. And again, I in my mind, I am aware that I am conflating a little bit the idea of entrepreneurialship with like, like the startup culture,
1:15:24
VC
Collin Funkhouser 1:15:26
bros.
Brandon 1:15:27
Yeah, like, I know that I am. I am conflating some of that, because that's the only experience I have with that type of thing, right with like, people like the.com stuff and like that tech bro startup stuff, like I like, those people are what comes to mind when I hear entrepreneur because like that is that's what they were branding themselves, as, you know, during that time when that was like a real date popular thing to do. And so I know that, like some of my negative connotations come from that. Right? So that's my own personal problem, right?
Collin Funkhouser 1:16:06
They're not too dissimilar. Right.
Brandon 1:16:08
I think there's a lot of crossover similarities. Yeah. Yeah, no, they definitely, they definitely are. Yeah, and I know a lot of people now like some of the people you see on the internet, now, they're like an entrepreneur. But like, they just like invested stuff. They just, like, throw money at things. And then like, see what happens. Like, that's not like working? Right. Like, you're not doing anything. Right. You know, like, when I like people, like, you know, they're like, oh, my gosh, you know, Warren Buffett works so hard. Like, we doesn't, right? He like throws money at the wall, and then like, see what happened? Like it's not working, right. It's like no doing things like, his dad gave him money. And he invested it. Oh, my gosh, he's so smart. No, no, do anything. Like, it's I feel like, that's where I get upset, like, people conflate the idea of like, oh, he works so hard. People that work hard to do this, but like, actually, they just like borrow money and then throw money at stuff. Right? Well, they sometimes it sticks, and they make a lot more money. And they're like, oh, man, I'm on that grind, bro. Like you literally did nothing. I don't know what that wasn't even your money to start with. Anyway, what are you talking about? How are you credit for this? Yeah, not, not what we were wanting people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's like, huh, there was no, there was no creative process here. Right? There was no, like, you're not handcrafting watercolor paints out of whatever it is that you handcraft watercolor paints out of, and I have no idea. And it turns out, there's more than just water by who knew? Indeed. Like, you know, you're not like creating that handcraft. And then like, marketing it and coming up and solving distribution problems and discovering how to, you know, upscale your production, right? These are all like, creative processes that happen. Right? Right. throwing money at stuff is not. It's not that. So I feel like that is where I just have a negative connotation with the word entrepreneur because I would think of like, paint lady. Like, I don't think my brain would call that entrepreneurialship. Right. Yeah, like, just because I have such a negative connotation, just attach to that word already. Right. I think I'm bringing that word down myself. Right. And I'm only interesting, like, one subset of the people that would classify themselves as entrepreneurs. You know, that's my baggage temporary. I've discovered, right? Because like, people that are like creating things, marketing things, selling a thing themselves, like trying to figure out how to solve these problems. Like, that is also technically entrepreneurship, I guess, right? Like that. That seems to be just more like a useful because you're like doing a thing. You actually want it to be useful now? Geez, I know why standards have high standards here. Have it do a thing with you? Yeah, yes. Yes. Because my thoughts on that. Continued thoughts from last. Yes. Yes. Anyway, yes, mine mine. Mine too. Interesting.
1:20:02
Perhaps I shall ponder this further.
Collin Funkhouser 1:20:05
Perhaps you should write a maybe a poem about this maybe? Well,
Brandon 1:20:08
I would except for I've already written one so that we get to your turn. Okay, get to hash out your feelings about this in a haiku form. Okay, we're in any of the other topic for tonight. I guess you can have free reign here. You could write a haiku about Tom Bombadil. I guess if you really want to. Although the Tolkien estate may come after you for that, yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm not. Maybe not. Maybe don't do that. But I have one. Inspired by the end of last week, about the meeting, in which Gen Z was blamed for all the towns was right. Yes. Which is wonderful. You can also write your Haiku about sealing job production. Here's what I here's what I came away with. Here's my Haiku. Right. Listen, but not here. Chronic misunderstanding. Change comes from within. Boom. Why do you think
Collin Funkhouser 1:21:26
Hey, ah, that's good.
1:21:29
I like it.
Collin Funkhouser 1:21:31
I like that. That's okay. That's good.
Brandon 1:21:34
I think it's
Collin Funkhouser 1:21:36
the misunderstanding one that really like that. I like that in the middle. Here go. There it is. Okay, well, Gen Z. You can go back and listen to our episode and egregious isn't really figured out what the heck that means.
Brandon 1:21:56
Bonus points for you next week. If you can spit a Yiddish word into your
Collin Funkhouser 1:21:59
oh I don't think that's going to happen but will ensure
Brandon 1:22:07
that you never know what's but may fit in nicely with whatever's going on.
1:22:13
Okay, I
Brandon 1:22:16
It's more fun seeing my buzzing,
Collin Funkhouser 1:22:19
buzzing I like hutzpah. Okay we've got okay I got lots of like a wife a we got a lot of those yeah well in on that yet another fantastical bombshell. Will. You'll end there. All right. Okay, love you. Bye