packing anxiety

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packing anxiety, sleep issues, caffeine consumption, neck support pillow, mouth taping, nose strips, oxygenation, travel preparations, sea shanty, Treasure Island, Long John Silver, mutiny, island survival, rattlesnake, cheese craving, packing anxiety, Midwesterner, dangerous situation, Jim, Flint's ship, Silver, treasure, British, island, cannon shot, Union Jack, confusion, backstory, sailor, message

SPEAKERS

Brandon, Collin

Collin  00:04

Colin, welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon and Collin on this week's show, packing anxiety. Ahoy.

Brandon  00:19

Ahoy. What's going on? Not a lot, and figure out why. Sometimes, whenever zoom opens, it like crashes the thing that's cool. I don't really know I did that, but it was like, ah, loading, connecting, not responding.

Collin  00:42

Oh no. It's just really tired. It's okay,

Brandon  00:45

I guess. So I don't know what.

Collin  00:49

Well, glad you're here, and everything's well,

Brandon  00:51

yeah, I was gonna make sure, yeah. So anyway, it was risky there for a second, but it's fine. Everything's fine.

Collin  01:01

Okay. Well, just stop touching things and back slowly,

Brandon  01:04

back up,

Collin  01:06

bring them back with me. It should be fine. Everything's fine. Coblamo,

Brandon  01:13

nice. So how are you? Oh, I am I am oxygenated. That is important here. It's important to be oxygenated.

Collin  01:27

I've been, I've been oxygenated all day. So it's been amazing. So I am on, I'm on a quest to get better sleep. I'm it's to the point now we're like, even eight and a half nine hours of sleep, of like, Isn't restful, and we all know why it is.

Brandon  01:56

Is it the extreme caffeine consumption? Actually no high stress, work cycle, high stress, high stress works, I hope, probably caffeine.

Collin  02:03

I generally not the the trip to like, notwithstanding, I drink my coffee and I'm done by like nine, usually, okay,

Brandon  02:13

well, this is new. This is a new leaf, right? This is not, this is not always been the case.

Collin  02:21

Oh no, no, no, no, no. Now when I'm out doing tons of visits and I'm going to, like, 11 o'clock at night and stuff, caffeine consumption goes back up. But on a normal day, it's it's not that bad. No, no. Apparently, something about, you know, snoring and restlessness in my sleep, it impacts my sleep a lot.

Brandon  02:42

Yeah, yeah, I've heard that is a fact.

Collin  02:45

So, so I'm, I'm on a quest now. I'm, we need to do something. So I've got a new pillow to like, better neck support and better back sleepage, because I just, I got sleep on my back. Sorry, people, it's just, is what it is. It's, there's no getting around it,

Brandon  03:02

so I'm doing that. Okay. Then

Collin  03:04

I texted you this I'm mad at myself for how much I love. This new thing in my

Speaker 1  03:17

I am

Brandon  03:19

Collin has fallen into the trap of morning slash night routine. Instagram influencers right here so angry. You got the ice bath, ice water.

Collin  03:35

What has popped up with this? Your wife puts your jewelry on for you, yeah, weirdly she fetches my shirts from the other room. Yeah, I saw this ad on my Instagram, right? And I was like, Oh, that's weird, huh? And then I watched a video, and, like, I've been seeing this ad while, of course, while I've been doing my research into, like, how to get, like, changing my sleep, yeah,

Brandon  03:58

imagine if those two things were related, right?

Collin  04:02

No, no. But then it shows up on Megan's Facebook.

Brandon  04:07

All technology companies are owned by two people. It's really and

Collin  04:13

she sends me a screenshot, and she's like, Have you looked into this? And I was like, actually, yeah. Because, and I should explain, I have tried no strips before, the ones you buy at the store, right? Whatever they're called,

Brandon  04:30

The Breathe Right? Ones like hashtag, not sponsored, not sponsored, because I think that's the brand name, but they are generic, just like breathing strips garbage. They do not stick to my face. Yeah, I've tried them before as well, like a long time ago, yeah, right. I tried them.

Collin  04:44

I've tried them several times. They never stick, they never hold, they don't do anything. And so I kind of had written off Breathe Right strips and strips in general. And then I stumbled across this ridiculous company where it's magnetic, okay?

Brandon  05:00

And the weird looking, they're so weird

Collin  05:03

looking, they're not, it's, it's uncomfortable. When you watch the video of them putting the magnet on and then, like, stretching out the nose, and you're like, yeah, like,

Brandon  05:14

so I had first, I didn't understand how it worked, right? Because I just saw one of the short things, or reels or whatever, of like the people putting it on, right? So I fully understand, like all the clip was, was somebody attaching it, yeah, and so I was like, What in the heck? I did not realize, for an uncomfortably long amount of time that there are a little sticky thing that you put on top of your notes?

Collin  05:50

Yeah, right, yes. This is not hard. From many of their photos, it looks like

Brandon  05:56

it looks like that. They like put it. It looks, if it looks like, it looks like there's magnet inside your nerve, which is upsetting, yes, to say, the lead. So, I mean, I'm glad that that doesn't have that, but it also really, really confused me for a long time, like too long of a time, that that is not actually what's happening, and that it is, in fact, sticking onto the outside of your nose, and that made me feel better and more sanitary, just in general. But,

Collin  06:37

like, I completely agree that it was very confusing. It spent a lot of time looking into these things and trying to figure out what it is and how it works. Why do you work? What? Why? And then it was when I realized that the little nose bridge thing is actually just solid plastic. It doesn't bend. Yeah,

Brandon  06:59

that that's when I was like, oh, okay, you know

Collin  07:05

that whole I totally understand what's happening. It's just using the resistive force of plastic and the power of magnets to open your nose. Okay, that

Brandon  07:15

also does make sense, yeah.

Collin  07:18

So I succumbed to this, and I bought, I bought one, and I it came in the mail today. Megan was like,

Brandon  07:27

good luck with this. And I put it on, like, assist, or look at she just, like, ran away, like she threw it

Collin  07:35

at me. And she's like, this is ridiculous. What are you doing? And I was like, no, no reminder

Brandon  07:39

that you showed this, we're gonna try. You said we're trying. Did you look at this? So she is complicit in this coal thing?

Collin  07:49

Oh yes, let's blame her. This

Brandon  07:51

will go very No, no, I'm not blaming. I'm not blaming you.

Collin  07:56

Sure. Thank you. She's also, yes, she is conspirator accompany, yes, so I set about putting this on, and it is going to take a while those little pads that you have to put on the side of your nose, man, getting these in the right spot and even on both sides of your nose. That I don't know if that will be a skill I ever fully acquire. Fair,

Brandon  08:24

are they? So they are reusable rice, is my follow up question here. Like, how do they affix to yourself? This is what I must know.

Collin  08:33

Single use, sticky. Single use,

Brandon  08:35

bro. That is awful. Yeah, that's bad. That's not it, right? Like that

Collin  08:45

single use sticky pads.

Brandon  08:49

Yeah, I'm not in love with that, not

Collin  08:53

because, yeah, it's like, well, that's horrible. Which, which was like, Oh, I understand why they sell these in 30 packs, because there's 30 days, yeah, yeah. But there are people who wear these non stop, like they wear them all the time, and I was stopped, yeah, I don't. I'm not supposed to do that. We went to the when we went to, we went to a restaurant, and one of the servers was wearing these, okay, bro, you can't do that on Earth. Cannot. You can't be doing that. I don't know, like, people wearing workout

Brandon  09:25

all sorts of stuff. Anyway, I could see that because, like, football players and stuff wear them. Sportists Wear them yes during games and stuff. But, like, yes, yeah.

Collin  09:39

But it has this little, like, little nubbin that, no, it's this little it's, it is, like

Brandon  09:46

a little thrill. I believe it's just this funny word, yeah,

Collin  09:49

that's what you use. Like, you attach the little pad to that via magnet, because it has a magnet in it. And then that's what you use to, like, stick onto your nose, and you can pull it back a little bit. See, like, open it up and make sure it's a good fit. And then once it's on left and right, that's when you put the little nose bridge thing on. And it comes with different sizes, okay? And that's good. I'm not quite sure what size I'm happy with, because also, anyway, I put it on, I wore it for eight hours straight, this today, and

Brandon  10:19

and I, I was like, Oh my gosh, I can actually, like,

Collin  10:24

use both of my nostrils. I looked at Megan. I was like, Is this what breathing is supposed to be? Like, like, this is really ridiculous. Like, this is the

Brandon  10:37

finally, who knew,

Collin  10:38

who knew your nose. Use it. Okay. This makes a lot of sense why I'm such a heavy mouth breather. Now, like, I, this is grand. So I've been joking all today. I've been like, I'm so oxygenated. This is insane. I've got, man, give me my pulse ox right now, because I bet I'm over 100 I'm so invigorated I'm ready to go. I'm breathing. But it is important. It is also i I'm such a heavy mouth breather that it's a habit, like I go to breathe out of my mouth when I'm like, oh, no, you can just breathe out of your nose, like you just it's a thing. It's so sad. It is sad. I took it off because we were because it's Taco Tuesday, so we had to go get tacos because it's Tuesday. And I was like, we're going. And Megan looked at me, and she was like, you're taking the off. And I was like, right, right, right, right. I know obviously I was going to remove, except for that I'm not. And I took it off, and immediately, was like, joking. So, so this may be a good sign that I may need to go see a throat nose doctor, dude, look about boring out some of my nostrils. Delicious. So that was Thank you. They recommend at nighttime wearing a larger size to make your nose larger and facilitate more breathing more air than if you are if you are exercising that you are to they recommend a narrower band, I guess, for they didn't really explain that one, I was like, fully

Brandon  12:41

comprehend that, but whatever, it's cool,

Collin  12:45

cool. I don't understand.

Brandon  12:49

I don't either. But I don't understand many things,

Collin  12:52

so I don't, I don't either. So I'm wearing it now. I put it back on. I'm ready. I'm I'm invigorated. I'm sorry, but, but the peace de resistance comes tomorrow, because I, oh, we're going all and we've got the neck pillow, okay, we've got the the ridiculously costly no strip thing.

Brandon  13:21

But I

Collin  13:24

because I'm such a heavy mouth breather, okay, hopefully one of the things to get my brain recalibrated to use my nose is the nose strip. Like, that's my first thing. But, okay, I'm also a mouth snorer. Like, I don't snore through my nose. I snore through my mouth, which is okay, which is thing interesting, but so I have looked into previously like mouth guards to put in my mouth to help realign my jaw for when I'm sleeping, so that I can open my airway and then I don't snore. However, I'm a mouth breather, so my mouth opens immediately at nighttime, and so my mouth guards always end up on the other side of the room or on the phone, you know, like, oh no. They end up everywhere. So I know have a mouth guard, because my mouth opens all the time, oh no, and so, oh

Brandon  14:18

no. I think I know what you're gonna say, and I don't know how I feel about this. I don't know how I feel about this so concerned. I'm really

Collin  14:25

concerned, but I'm going to try mouth taping.

Brandon  14:41

So freaked out right now. Like, I don't even know now

Collin  14:43

I being a die hard mouth breather my entire life. I don't know how psychologically this is going to work on me.

Brandon  14:51

Okay, I mean, yeah, how do you baby step into this?

Collin  14:55

Like, now, I will say that the stuff that I did get. It is specifically for this. Like, there are people who just use, like, duct tape that's weird, that is freaky, and I got really concerned. And this stuff, like, it's like

Brandon  15:11

a gauzy kind of thing, right? Like, you can, like, breathe through it, right? It's not like, actual, it's not actual take tape, right?

Collin  15:20

But still, there are, there's this. Like, am I getting enough oxygen? What if I need to yawn? Like, yeah, yeah, right. Like, what a big thing. How do how do I do that? What if I need to communicate an urgent message to somebody, and I'm over here locked up like a hostage on the same bed, like, I don't know,

Brandon  15:40

have a bearded mustache, so it's right out for me. Yeah, my even if it didn't psychologically traumatize me, just saying that you're using that.

Collin  15:51

Yes, so I don't know, I don't know about this, but I figure I'm already doing the influencer no strip. I might as well take the next step and do the latest fad. Because, yeah, the only other option that I can find that realistically works for this are the chin straps that you like. Velcro

Brandon  16:11

head so gangster looking like Marley, right? Like

Collin  16:17

I wake up in the mornings like screw i This. This Exactly.

Brandon  16:24

This is exactly it. We're more losing. I don't want that. I don't

Collin  16:31

want that. No one wants that. So I figure I might as well just try this. I know I'm so I'm gonna look really cool being like,

Brandon  16:48

oh bro, morning routine video Collin, the alpha male, like,

Collin  16:57

I know they get a strip across my face. Oh, my goodness.

Brandon  17:06

Like the balcony, right? So you gotta do,

Collin  17:10

yeah, now, now, interestingly, okay, I am gonna say this. Okay, so the stuff that I got it is it comes. I found it on different review sites for this, like it's shaped in a little oval, and for all this stuff, safe on gentle on skin, hypogenic, it's comfortable. 60 pouches. It's blah, blah, blah. It's a two month supply. All of the reviews are about this. All of them are right about using this. There are videos. All these people are using it for this, all these things

Brandon  17:44

I want to read you

Collin  17:47

the title for this on Amazon. Oh, god, okay, again. Mouth tape for snoring is what you Google. It comes up in reviews. It's linked to all sorts of,

Brandon  17:57

oh, is this just like the product name? That is like putting all the words in it, all the hashtags. This

Collin  18:02

is kind of but it's also a discussion, okay, okay, the first three words are black, binding, tape, strong, adhesive, multifunctional trial, no glued removal, suitable for books. What?

Brandon  18:20

Hold on, wait somebody.

Collin  18:27

And then you look at the product stuff, and it's like protecting book corners. Oh, heel protection for your shoes. It's for both. You can use it for boil, bowling, tape around your fingers.

Brandon  18:41

Oh, yeah, Collin tape. Nothing's more alpha male than going, Wait a minute. But all but,

Collin  18:51

like all of these, the reviews, mouth tape usage, breathable and allows for chapstick to be worn by this right? I started off for this expensive stuff, but it works so much better. And my husband uses every night, and I sleep better. Works well, easy to remove. Like, great for improving sleep hygiene. Like, that's all the reviews. So everyone's using

Brandon  19:10

this. I improved my bowling score by 30 points. I

Collin  19:14

really want someone named, I know someone named Gerald, to be like, my bowl approved, and I could get better grip. Oh, man, it's so fantastic. So yes, I am, and then yeah, then yeah, because then people will recommend, like, oh, just use soft surgical tape. Like, just, I'm like, no, no, no, I'm not.

Brandon  19:40

I'm not about that life. I mean, yeah, you kind of like, the, I would be concerned about breathability factor. Oh, yes, right. Like, you know breathing is good, so I don't, I don't know, yeah, so I bought this. It's, it's not super costly. It's.

Collin  20:00

Pretty cheap, but I'm going to see there are several other brands, yeah, on here, some product testing, product testing here, here we go. But everything. But even the ones that say like, oh, this is the sleep tape or the good night tape, they still talk about, like, it's just called binding tape.

Brandon  20:18

It's so weird. So multi you kind of, you know, if you have a multi use product, you can sell more of it, yeah, right, if you just, like, come up with other random junk that it can do, like, oh, it can also protect the corner of your books after you wrap them in brown paper sack, like, you're back in sixth grade again, like, Uh huh, yeah. And it's 1993 like, hey,

Collin  20:45

yes, this is what I'm most excited for.

Brandon  20:49

Yes, you haven't used it. You get that today as well. That coming, that

Collin  20:53

comes tomorrow. Okay, so that's coming tomorrow. So I'm layering, so I'm doing all good, nice. I'm doing tonight's gonna be the breeze strip thing, okay? And then the magnet, not my magnetic nostrils. We're gonna see how that happens. What happens tonight? Okay, then I'm gonna have the tape tomorrow, and it'll be all set. And then I'll be wearing like, Yeah, I'm ready. I'm getting I'm gearing up. It's gonna be great. Have the best.

Brandon  21:21

Uh, so

Collin  21:27

we'll see all of this. I told Megan, I said all of this. Actually, you know what? This is just going. I'm gonna, this just ends up with me in the CPAP machine. Okay, this is where we're headed. So, like, I

Brandon  21:37

mean, yeah, like, you gotta, you gotta try some first though, you

Collin  21:40

know this is just where we're headed. So this is the gentle steps. At least we'll at least my nighttime routine won't be like, totally weird when I'm unhooking Darth Vader to suction for my face, right? So I can breathe and not die at night.

Brandon  21:54

And now you can be an Instagram influencer. Morning. I'm so sorry. Morning slash night. Routine influencer, yes, you go, I think I don't want to go back to this pillow situation. I need to know about your pillow, because I also have problems with pillows because, like, I try to sleep on my back right, or I try to sleep on my side, like, I will try to go to sleep in these positions. I wake up on my face every time. There is no I wake up on my stomach just about every day. I don't know I must roll about quite substantially, but I always, almost always, wake up on my stomach every, every time and so like, pillows annoy me, because there are these specialized pillows you like sleep this way. And I'm like, I want to sleep that way. I can't. I'll be like, nope. Face, like, I don't know why my body is like, yes, sleep like this, even though some days I wake up and my neck feels like it's wrenching in a vice. Like, why did you decide that this was how we were gonna sleep? Buddy? What are you doing? How did you like, yes, contorted wildly. Like, this is the perfect way to sleep, and it's totally comfortable when clearly it is not right. So like, nobody's tried it. We tried to get some new pillows A while ago, but, like, they sucked, so we send back because, like, really flat and gross, and I didn't like it, so excuse me like it either. So we didn't

Collin  23:36

now, yes, I my pillow situation has been dire for a long time. I we had a some pillows a while back that I had got for back sleeping. And they were, they were just like, super flat. And they were like, really, like, I don't even know how, yeah, I have one of those. Like, it's like, flat and pretty firm, and I slept on it for a while, and then all of a sudden my neck is like,

Brandon  24:07

no, no, not doing that anymore.

Collin  24:11

So, but when we had our kids, that's what we gave to them. We gave them those kind those pillows for when they started sleeping on their own, just really fair flat. We gave our kids the sucky pillows. We're like,

Brandon  24:24

No, I know. I'm just joking. I like, that's I really

Collin  24:28

like this pillow, like it was one of my favorites, but we gave it to them because it was really flat and firm and it wasn't like this big, poofy cloud that they were educated in when they rolled over. So that's what they man. And I've just had this, like, generic pillow. I don't know, even know where we got it, like it, it's not my favorite thing, but I kind of, kind of, I'd sleep a lot where I'd, like, compress the pillow together, like wadded up, you know, kind of like, kind of thing. And so for a while I thought I wanted to get a, oh. Is it a husk pillow? Have you ever looked into this? I have

Brandon  25:03

seen these, not like, in

Collin  25:05

depth, looked into them. This is one I mentioned. They make some they're supposed to be really cool. Like, as far as, like, temperature wise and the contour to your head and stuff, I've thought about those. However, I'm a hardcore back sleeper, so I recently was actually given a Tempur Pedic neck pillow. It's the weird two hump one, where it goes up, okay, okay, a little hump and then a big hump. And what you're supposed to do is the big hump goes under your neck, and so basically, your neck, your head falls boom and up, yes, yeah, I'll send you a link. Oh,

Brandon  25:46

I thought you were supposed to use the way. No,

Collin  25:49

see this, I I

Brandon  25:51

have to watch, which makes sense, right? Yes, but like, okay, okay,

Collin  25:59

yeah, because if you'd use it the other way around, it would angle your head forward. That's what you're supposed to hear. Is it's supposed to cradle your neck so you kind of get locked in, and your head is supposed to go up

Brandon  26:10

a little back, yeah, yeah.

Collin  26:13

And so that is what I have now, and I'm going to report to see. But yeah, I had to do some research, because I was like, how do you use this? Because,

Brandon  26:26

I mean, yeah, it's valid, right? Like, what is

Collin  26:30

and so using some of the product photo images, how do you work? Even then some of them don't show you, like, exactly what or how to use it. It's been so anyway, this is what I am using now, because it is a neck support pillow for four back and side sleepers. And what you have to do is it actually comes in three different sizes, small, medium and large. And this is the distance from the base of your head down to your shoulders. Oh, oh, measuring. I know they're basically measuring your neck, because they want to know how big of a hump you need. Yeah, to to

Brandon  27:16

throw in there. So, so weird. Yes, okay, yes. Well, I've been thinking about those pillows wrongly. Oh, that's huh. Well, who knew lad,

Collin  27:32

I know, not me that too. So this is the only one that I can because, again, it's like a four back sleeper, exclusive, yeah, I some of the past couple nights. It's not the most like, pillowy. This is the hard part. And if you, and if you are used to, like, propping up some pillows in, like, in reading and stuff at night, this is not, yeah, it's not Yeah, it's not meant for that. You seem to have those pillows also, yes, those are in addition to this one. This one you cannot be like, and then you like, throw them on the floor and sleep. Yes, yes. Now I will say, if you were to sleep on your stomach and try and put your head on this, you

Brandon  28:15

would be gonna say, this is where I would die. Like, yes, because it's wretched, I mean, but I don't know if it was this is where I would need to, like, do some sort of, like, trial thing, because, like, if it worked good enough to where it was comfortable, and my brain didn't say, ah, let's do something wonky. Yeah, maybe it would be okay to, like stay. You don't mean like, so, I don't know. Hmm, okay, yeah, so I'm because I'm pretty like,

Collin  28:55

I've tried a lot of different things to sleep on my side or help with my back, but every pillow I can never position it and my neck always crams forward, and then I'm just again, open mouth, breathing, snoring. So, yeah, I don't know, and it was, we'll see how this again, I'm only day like was this day two into take everything I'm saying with

Brandon  29:22

it, still doing the you know,

Collin  29:28

that's fair. You're in the trial phase. I am trying to see how this all gets put together. So, yeah, still investigating him or whatever. Yeah. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. And now, but then I, I was kind of worried with all this stuff, because I'm like, Oh no. Like,

Brandon  29:47

I used to, like,

Collin  29:49

I didn't have a nighttime routine for I didn't, I don't, right, really. So now I'm

Brandon  29:54

either, yeah, like, Oh no, I'm tired. I guess I'll go to bed now. Now. Oh.

Collin  30:00

Know, because what if I'm traveling and I don't have my nostril magnets, yeah? Or, like, am I, am I going to have to go and buy, like, the travel Tempur Pedic neck pillow to go with me? Because it's more it's smaller and narrower,

Brandon  30:19

how they would say absolutely, that's what you Yes,

Collin  30:23

they would. What if I'm not able to tape my mouth shut and I'm in a hotel, like, I can't, yeah, can't call down to the concierge and ask for tape. Like, that's I'm not doing that.

Brandon  30:37

That's true. Also, how you get on TSA being like, I got this binding tape. See your

Brandon  30:53

fingerprints?

Collin  30:57

Yeah, so it's a I'm now getting into that realm of like, Oh no, I'm really gonna have to, I have to plan, and this is not something I wanted with my life. But, I mean, that's true. It is what it is. But

Brandon  31:14

there's, yeah, there's some it's annoying, right? Like, that kind of stuff. So I, I, according to my wife, I think my story has got better, really. So because I was pretty bad there for a little while, and so I am doing better? Unfortunately, the answer for me was, hey, you need to lose a lot of weight, maybe like exercise or something like,

Collin  31:52

oh, oh no,

Brandon  31:54

yeah. Drat. The two things that I added at once,

Collin  31:59

Yes, that too is also on my list to make sure that I am doing moving forward. So hopefully, between all these things, yeah, but

Brandon  32:09

I think that helped a lot. And plus, like that was part of my like, blood pressure or

Collin  32:15

problems, right? It was, oh sure, too

Brandon  32:17

much. And eating like garbage. And, you know, not to say that I eat wonderfully all the time, but still like, it's better. So that is the other part of that, but that's I'm very curious to see how the magnet thing pans out for you, because I did try the normal ones before too. But I also found that they just, like, come off you wake up maybe because I end up sleeping on my face, right? You wake up in the morning and, like, it's only attached to one side of your nose, still right? Like,

Collin  32:55

oh, I'd find him on my I'd find him attached to my arm, right? Because sometimes I'd put my arm up and cover my face. Yeah, that's what

Brandon  33:03

I worry about with the Magnus too. He's gonna, like, just ping it off, and it's gonna be like, wake up. Like, where the heck does that go

Collin  33:10

far under these stick really? Again, I wore mine for eight hours straight today, and I had to rip them off of my nose in order to go out to dinner. So you do have to, like, scrub into the

Brandon  33:25

bar thing, right? Oh yeah, just that hard. Like, those things sound like this. Like, no, this again. If I'm rolling around, my face is gonna be like, click, up. Gone. Forever by.

Collin  33:38

I don't know if this thing is really on there, but I'm going to see, we're going to see how it happens. Because I'm like, huh, this is essentially, I know, I don't move around as much. It sounds like it's you, so I'm not a

Brandon  33:50

totally, no one does.

Collin  33:55

So we're gonna, we're gonna see, yeah, I'm, I'm interested, because I, of course, I was like, floating on because, because I so oxygenated, I was basically floating today. And Megan was like, do we need to get those things on auto shipment? And I was like, Yeah. And I was starting to put them on because we have some Amazon things on the Subscribe and Save and, you know, the more Yeah, the more you say. But I was like, I'm gonna hold off on this. I have 30 of these things. Well now, yeah, yeah, see if they, you know, work first, right? Yeah, before we just start getting these shipped to our house. Yeah,

Brandon  34:27

exactly right. Let's be

Collin  34:30

fine and then, and then we'll see. So I'm trying not to get ahead of myself and just like, see what this is going to look like, but I will be reporting back on this and how

Brandon  34:43

things right? Are we looking forward for these updates?

Collin  34:51

Well, yeah, everything, everything. Well, with you, your week progressing?

Brandon  34:57

Well, oh yeah, it's going fine just having, like, packing. Anxiety, right?

Collin  35:01

Oh, yes, you leave in, like, what, a week,

Brandon  35:03

yeah. So it's like, I just want to take I'm having the anxiety about, like, packing things. I'm just like, I've just given up. Just like, I'm just gonna pack rated T shirts. I don't care. Just get out of my way. Like, I don't care. I'm overthinking this too much, and it's annoying, and I just want, like, yeah,

Collin  35:27

because you're doing the no check bag,

Brandon  35:30

yeah, and it's like, real annoying, because, like, I don't know, I don't like, I don't know, most of my wardrobe is, like, basically curated for work at this point. So it's like, button down shirts and polos and ties. I'm like, I don't, what do you pack for vacation, though? Like, I just need a t shirt, but not the T shirts that I wear just around town, because they're just kind of like, meh, right? Like, sure, yeah. So again, this is where I'm putting too much thought into my I see situation, right? So I just have to be like, Okay, where's my black T shirt? Boom, done.

Collin  36:14

Oh man, yes, we're over. That's it, cut off and done. Yeah.

Brandon  36:21

So, yeah. So, just trying to think, make sure I got things about, you know, like, that kind of stuff. So that's sort of this week is sort of like, gather everything together and just get all that done. So, the gathering phase, yeah, the gathering phase, right, making sure it's washed, like, do some laundry. Oh yeah, Where's all my socks? Holy cow. Where

Collin  36:47

they all go? Really, where are all my socks? But really,

Brandon  36:50

I just bought some more. Where did I so, like, where did they go? Dig it. So, yeah, that's it. Just trying to get all that stuff done and

Brandon  37:05

packed. And so that's this week, basically getting all that stuff done. Nice. Yeah, yes. So now, do you have, do you have

Collin  37:15

your like, charger situation sorted for overseas? Oh,

Brandon  37:19

yeah, we have an adapter thingy, nice, right? If all else fails, just buy one there, I guess. But like, that's your fair, yeah, yeah, I always have an adapter thingy and, like, that kind of stuff. I gotta figure out if I want to do, like, the e sim situation, so I can, like, use my phone, right? Like, do I want to do that? Do I care? Like, I mean, I don't want to pay out of country charges. This is definitely want to do that. No. But, like, nobody wants

Speaker 1  37:57

that. Do

Brandon  37:58

I want to use my phone? Probably, for, like, maps and stuff, right, like, that kind of thing. So I think about that. Gotta think about what to download to watch on the plane. Gotta think,

Collin  38:18

oh, man, so many decisions, it's

Brandon  38:22

important, right? So, yeah, have backup things. You gotta have some backup stuff. So, so, yeah, just trying to, like, get all those things together. And that's basically it. I don't like, I hate packing it's the worst. So

Collin  38:41

I don't Yeah, because you do, you get locked in, right? And it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, on your decisions, future self,

Brandon  38:50

yeah. Future self might be mad at me, so we'll see. But that's basically it. So just trying to get that stuff together. Luckily, I have a extraordinarily responsible and list making wife. So

Collin  39:07

very nice. That helps, right? Like

Brandon  39:10

yes, my extreme hot mass Express over here, like that definitely is

Collin  39:16

helpful. So you can be handed a list, man, you will execute that very well,

Brandon  39:23

you'll just say, wear your socks. Oh, no, I don't know

Collin  39:26

you. Sucks. Nobody told me about socks. And

Brandon  39:32

like today, we were talking and we were like, are you we were talking about, do you take swimming clothes? And we were like, Well, I wasn't really planning on it, you know, I don't really care. I don't really want to go swimming in, like, the hotel or whatever. But then the one of the ladies our friend talked to, like, the person in charge of the thing, and they were like, I. Yeah, no. People, the Nordic people, just like, jump in the ocean, like, all the time. Like, oh well. So now do I, if the opportunity presents itself, I don't want to be like, no, oh

Collin  40:13

no, I can't, yeah, you gotta win, win in Rome, yeah.

Brandon  40:17

So, like, I mean, that's not a giant thing to add to

Collin  40:21

luggage, either No, but also it is yet another thing that's true, that's true,

Brandon  40:27

but like, you don't want to miss out on that action, you know, I mean, so, like, yeah, so that would be, that would be bad. So these kind of things, these last minute things. I'm like, Oh, do I need this? Like, but no, I'm trying to not do it right? I'm trying to take less things. Because every time I go on a trip like this or somewhere else, like, I always end up taking too much crap and things that I don't even wear or, like, I don't even need it. So it's just so annoying, and so I really just need to be like, listen, Brandon, when you're at home, you will wear the same shirt for 90 days in a row, and you go out, go to the store. Good. No one cares. There's no problem, right? There's no problem, all right, you'll just, you'll go out, you'll run errands, you'll do stuff all day, you'll come home and you'll, you know, and then the next day, if you got to run more errands, you'll just put the shirt back on. Yeah, this is what I do all the time. So why should it be anytime?

Collin  41:37

But for some reason, we don't want the Norwegians to think I wear the same shirt every day.

Brandon  41:41

Yeah, they don't care. They probably do too. It'll be colder there anyway, so it's not going to be like this. Thing that I'm most excited about is there's, like, not 87% humidity there. So this is great news. So this also facilitates the wearing of shirts more than one day. Like, much better, right? Like, it's different. If it's like, hot and sticky, right? Then you're like, burn this shirt. It's gross, right? Like, get it away from

Collin  42:11

me. Like, what

Brandon  42:12

if it's like, it's fine, and how sweaty am I going to be walking through a museum? No, I'm not. No, okay, so like again, am I overthinking this to my own detriment? Yes, yes, I am. Will I stopped? No, why? Familiar,

Brandon  42:40

it's not that big deal, man. Like, just wear a shirt again. So this is what I'm doing,

Brandon  42:48

really trying to pare down and make this effective. Like, sure, and so I can do this. So this, this, this should work. It should be fine. Believe in you. Just, like, yeah, I just like, again, I always take too much stuff or end up not wearing a thing. And it's like,

Collin  43:09

well, and that's the worst too, when you when you pack something and you don't wear it like that really makes me angry when I'm with hassle, and then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, you nothing. With you. You're just there.

Brandon  43:25

You're just there, taking up space on my screen. Yes, and it's very obnoxious, and I don't like it, right? And so now we are down to the one thing I have to think about is like, do I need to bring some sort of, like, very light jacket situation, right? Because, like, currently, like the low temperatures, there are, like, 57 degrees Oof. So like, yeah, yeah, you know, I know, granted, that's overnight. But like, do I need just like a like here I just wear my like flannel shirt thing, right? But basically it is. But the question is, do I take my flannel shirt thing, right? Do I take it number one, maybe you know differently out and about at night. I don't know how much that will be occurring. But also it would be nice on the plane, right, because their plane is usually quite chilly, so it might be a good thing to have on the plane, right and stuff. So that's the last piece of the puzzle here. Is, do I take my just flannel shirt thing? Because I don't want, like, a jacket, because that's way too much. That's too big of a thing, right? But do I just need something like that, right? That's what I need to think about. That's the last piece of the puzzle. Do I take my long sleeve flannel shirt because it

Collin  44:59

get enough? I get. Yes, like, so I don't know, I say yes, do it?

Brandon  45:04

I mean, probably at some point there's an overnight ferry ride. I feel like that might be important for that. I think so, to be a bit windy out there. So we'll see. But someone pay too much stuff, so you have to lug it around, and that sucks. So

Collin  45:23

again, yeah, I'm a person that doesn't like to carry things at all, taking taking stuff and then realizing, Oh, I didn't use any it didn't

Brandon  45:33

need this stuff. Yeah, it's the worst. Oh, no. So yeah, yeah, good, um, yeah, we're working on it, right, but it'd be fine. It'll be fine, yes, well, that's the wrong thing. You know? What else will be fine? What huh The sea shanty of the week? Yes, what

Collin  46:00

I would love to do, right?

Brandon  46:01

You go. So here we go. This week, we pulled out deep cut here, right? This one is interesting. I basically, I like this one, right? And I think it has a it's like mysterious and interesting kind of so we're gonna go with that one. So this is called, lowlands away, right, lands away, okay, yeah, so it's pretty cool. Now, this one is, like, an interesting song that, because it's like, well, how old is this song. No idea, right, right? Oh, it is in a book. So it, it does appear in some sort of book somewhere. So, like, it's, at least it was printed about, written about in the 1860s Right? And, like, like, a broken record here. This is assuredly an older song, sure than that, right? What makes this one interesting, right? Is it many people, including folk song collectors and people that know such things, right? They their hype, their theory is that this is it actually started its life as like a long ballad, right? And so there is some lost to time, long ballad version of this song. Oh, right. And it has been turned into a shanty, right? Oh, interesting. It's like, the sailors just saying parts of it, and they repeated bits. And it's based, it's, it was turned into a capstan shanty. So, like, the thing where they, like, raise the anchor with or, like, haul the sails, you know, it was turned into a shanty for that. So it, it's a weird it's about like a lost, dead lover or something, right? So kind of a weird topic for CCTV about which also leads them to believe it's, it's a, it's pieces of a much older song that is, in its full form, lost, right? And so we only have these remnants from this lowlands away song, right? So it's like, which lowlands don't know? Oh, right, probably the British or Scottish lowlands, right? Yeah. But like, Could it be the Netherlands? Maybe, I don't know, right? And so, yeah, it was also probably influenced by dock workers in the south, right? It's cool. So, yeah, it's kind of interesting. So, you know that I think it's got a cool kind of story, yeah? Like that. It could be part of an older tune, but that piece is lost, and we have this, right there you go. So, boom, okay, see shanty of the week. Oh, well, lowlands away. Include pretty good one too. I like

Collin  49:19

include a link to that, apparently set to the

Brandon  49:24

play through of

Collin  49:26

Assassin's Creed four for some

Brandon  49:28

Oh yeah, that is true that. Okay, so maybe you're saying you might have caught on to some of my source some of my source material has been the Assassin's Creed, Black Flag soundtrack, right? Because that is the pirate game. And while you're sailing around in the game, your crew will randomly start singing shanty. Okay, that's neat. That's just, that's just up. It's beautiful. So some of these are like, Oh, I. Remember this from that game? What is that song called? And so I had to go back in. So some of my research material includes the Assassin's Creed, floor, Black Flag. Soundtrack.

Collin  50:10

Very nice. Okay, okay,

Brandon  50:13

that's all right, sorry. Okay, I was gonna come clean at the end, right, if you hadn't paid it. But yeah, okay, so it's good stuff. I just typed in little lands away. So, yeah, it's not a very common one, and that's one of the only place it's there. And then there's some people that, like, there's like random people like, like quartet people like singing, okay, you know, because in the since like 2020, like sea shanties, there's like a mini sea shanty revival, yeah, for some reason on the internet, which interesting, yes, is good, right? It's what the internet's actually for. Okay, yes, this is exactly what the internet's for. Quartet, sea shanty singing,

Brandon  50:59

agreed. That's what CERN had in mind. Okay, they know when

Collin  51:01

they opened up the portal to, yeah, another dimension,

Brandon  51:05

as we all know,

Collin  51:10

destroyed, they knew that they were wanting to bring back sea shanties, anything popular,

Brandon  51:14

anyway, right?

Brandon  51:23

Speaking of things not going well.

Collin  51:27

Jim here, Jim, why is ventures? Yes,

Brandon  51:31

which is interesting. I like my my in my book, we have Part Three, my short adventure. Chapter 13, how my shore adventure began.

Collin  51:43

Yes, very, you know what you're getting

Brandon  51:47

here, there we go, Yep, here we are, yes, yep. And you have some very like these titles are pretty they're starting to get a little bit hilarious, right? Like these, these are giving, like, 1800s like book titles, right? Like autobiography titles. You know, when people write a story about things like, I've been reading this book on the side, hold on. Let me reach for it. Hold on, vamp. Oh, way on the side. Put it on my shelf, and it was just out of reach. It was, I'm reading a book about, I just finished a book about shipwrecks. Sometimes I like to read books. And then I like to read a nonfiction book that is like related to it. It helps me keep reading, you know. But this one is about a wreck of a ship on Auckland island in the South South Pacific, like south of New Zealand in 1864 right? But, yeah, so it's harrowing, right? But the guy's book, I gotta see if I can find this real quick. His he wrote a book about it afterwards, the captain Musgrave, right? He wrote this book, and it just is the most ridiculous title of all time. And I need to find this, because it's just, I am so ready. You know how like, they're just like, or like, scientific papers have, like, super, mega long kind of titles that you're like. What is happening? Why is this here? Right? Oh, that's the French version. I don't want to read that. They already. You know, I don't want to make French even more mad at me because I can't pronounce French words very well. Okay, the second version. Oh, yes, okay. Here you go. 1865 entitled castaways on the Auckland isles, a narrative of the wreck of the Grafton from the private journals of Captain Thomas Musgrave, with a map and some account of the Auckland

Brandon  54:12

second version, right, revised version 1866 passed away, is on the Auckland Island, a narrative of the wreck of the Grafton And the escape of the crew after 20 months suffering from the private journals of Captain Thomas muthgrave, together with some account of the awkward

Collin  54:26

oh my gosh, and there was no colon or semi colon in there. I take it.

Brandon  54:31

There was a comma. Okay. Oh, there's a full colon, two full colons, actually. So it's

Collin  54:40

basically a summary,

Brandon  54:43

very much like, Ah, yes, there you go, yeah. And there's also one of the other survivors, who was French, wrote a French book as well, les von. More. Su on the receiving the ill, open on re sit, authentic illustrator, illustrate the 4040. Should the same par at the new That was horrible, sorry, France, just in general. But again, so we're getting, we're getting Jim here is catching the spirit he's really we're getting like, if you just kind of like, breeze through, like, some that, some of the chapter titles start getting a bit longer, like that, and so, like, I just like,

Collin  55:42

so much to talk about,

Brandon  55:44

I know. So there you go. That was just the first thing I thought about. So how my shore adventure began? Right? A bit by happenstance, right?

Collin  55:54

He's just like, well, it starts off where all of a sudden. It's interesting. This has been the one thing that he's been wanting for so long, and now, when he sees the island finally, he's kind of filled with a little like, like, because everything is gray, and obviously with the circumstances of how things are going, it's also he's not looking at it in Oh, and he also doesn't like that The Hispaniola is just sitting there at anchor rolling. And so it's not, he's not starting off real cheerful here in the morning, looking at the island.

Brandon  56:27

Yeah. Well, the weather's bad, right? It's not great. They had to the weather so bad, they had to pull the boat in, right with the the lifeboats right here, a little bit later, right? They've been anchored offshore, and it's like, pretty raucous, right? The boat is ship, right? Is going pretty back and forth, right? It's not like a pleasant, yes, time, you know, it's pretty he's not loving that. And then, then after that happens, it like gets really hot, and then there's like no wind, and so the crew have to pull the boat into closer to the harbor with the lifeboats. And now the crew is, like, super antsy as well. So there's like, a anxiety, antsy feeling that like has overtaken everyone, right? And it's not great. And so the mood is, like really kind of on edge, intense, and it's even weirder that, like the one person going around following every order cheerfully is Long John Silver, because he's trying to get the crew to calm the heck down,

Collin  57:45

right? He's trying to keep this all together. You're right, yeah,

Brandon  57:49

he he's on edge, but they're more on edge, so he's trying to keep them calm down, because they're not doing anything now they're stuck on the boat, the land is right there, and they're like, super antsy, right? And they're just like, all kind of going a little bit nuts. And so he's like, going around, being all extra chipper, trying to play it off, like he's just so happy to be here. But what he's really doing is going to all the groups of the crew and be like, stop that, right?

Collin  58:16

Yes, making his presence known, because they the captain and the Squire and the doctor call a meeting, and basically they're like, Yeah, mutiny is about to take place here, so we need to do something. I mean, they basically

Brandon  58:30

say, like, it's clear that the captain is silver, right? Because the captain is like, if I give one more order, oh yes. He's like, they're not. He's like, I can't. Like, this is bad. So, you know, they decide, sure, leave might be the answer, right? For two reasons. Number one, get some people off the boat. Lessen their anxiety slightly. But also they they know, like, look, this will give silver some time alone with them, and maybe he can get him under control. Called down, yes, which is so bizarre

Collin  59:12

that that's Yeah, but they're like, look, he's he's controlling them anyway, but

Brandon  59:17

we need to give him a chance to do it out of our earshot, because he

Collin  59:21

can't do it, because then that would show them, they they know that he's trying to lay low in the command that he has over everybody. Because if he starts to step outside of that bounds, it would give him away for what he's Yeah, he's trying to do. But like, they know,

Brandon  59:40

well, yeah, but like, they don't want him to know that they know that he knows that they know, right? Like, it's one of those, yes. So they're like, Well, if we let him go to shore, anybody that wants to and just say, you know you've been working hard, you've earned some shore time will fire. The gun, you know, at, you know, when it's time to come back, and then you can row back to the ship for meal and stuff, yes, and we'll do that. We'll sleep on the boat.

Collin  1:00:10

Boom, that was his plan. Yeah. And then I don't quite understand, oh, but before they do this, they give pistols out to the people they trusted, yeah, just yeah, just in case, right,

Brandon  1:00:24

right for, you know, people might stay aboard, like, you know, whatever, like, yeah, they gave them out to

Collin  1:00:30

the crew here, including Jim. Jim has, Jim has one Yeah, and I don't, I don't quite understand what Jim does at the end of this chapter. Did you find a reason for why he decided to do this?

Brandon  1:00:48

Well, he kind of like, yeah, I don't really know. Like, he seems to be of the belief that this is important, right? And I think that some of this is, like, we have foreshadowing a little bit, because remember, this is future Jim telling us the story. Yeah, right, but he this the one sentence that I found really interesting, actually, earlier than this. Hold on. The one other thing I wanted to mention real quick is the weird reaction that doctor has is like, I would bet there's fever here, which is, oh yes, weird, because the air is so hot and buggy and sticky. Anyway, that was interesting, potential foreshadowing, but yeah, Jim just goes. Then it was that this is also a weird sentence, and I had to read this more than once because it's worded strangely, right? Then it was that there came into my head, the first of the Mad notions that contributed so much to save our lives. Oh, yes, right, yeah. And he's just like, standing there, and all of a sudden, he's like, if six men were left by silver, it was plain our party could not take and fight the ship. And since only six were left, it was equally plain that the cabin party had no present need for my assistance. And it occurred to me at once to go to shore, and then he just dove into a life dives in, and he like hides, curls up in the front, you know, and that was it, right? And silver starts yelling at him, right? But because his boat was so much faster, right? Because everybody was like, kind of raring to go, and it was also lighter, and they had less stuff in their boat. They got to the beach, and he just, like, took off running, and silver is like screaming at him, like shouting after him, jam, jam, jam. And he's just running. Yeah, I don't know if he's like, I don't, I don't know exactly what's going on here. Like, he wants to be off the boat. We know that, but he also doesn't want to be with them. Very importantly, yes, yeah, I think he's, I think this is a adventure, but also he's scared to be around these, rightfully so, yeah, I think he just wants to be away from everyone. Yeah, right. Like he wants to be off the boat because it's just sitting there, rocking back and forth, and he's not really enjoying that. And he's like, Well, if the you know, the captain, the squire, like, they don't need me on the boat, and I don't want to be on the boat, so I want to be on this island. I don't want to be near them, these villainous pirates. Yeah, so I'm just gonna go. So I don't know if he's gonna, like, play this off. Was, like, adventurous, you know, young man frolicking about on an island or whatever, but, like, he does get into his head that, and this is some interesting foreshadowing, like, this is the first of one of his notions that contributed so much to save our lives. We'll see. I guess this is important, right?

Collin  1:04:06

I guess with that, we're just supposed to take look. Jim's going to do some weird things that there's no logic or reason behind them. He didn't have any planning or anything. He just said, Yeah, I'll go do that kind of, I guess a little bit of acting irrationally in the moment, but it worked itself out for good in the end. Yeah,

Brandon  1:04:23

it turns out this was a good even though, at the time it seemed like a spur of the moment plan, yes, like, not really a plan. It turns out it was a good thing to do. I think that's kind of what it's mentioning here. Yeah, he just got it into him that he wanted to get away from everyone. He just rocketed off into the jungle

Collin  1:04:41

and is gone, yeah, yeah,

Brandon  1:04:44

yeah. So there you go, and then we have the next chapter. First of all, this chapter is weird. This Okay, again, maybe I'm overthinking this a little bit, but the description of the island leaves me confuzzled onto where perhaps we could pop. Possibly be,

Collin  1:05:01

oh, I didn't even try to put that together.

Brandon  1:05:06

Well, I just it's, it's just like, it's kind of like, weird. I think there's just some anachronistic things about what's happening here, like how he describes the stuff that he's running through,

Collin  1:05:22

right? Yes, because he doesn't, like, know how to describe one of the trees.

Brandon  1:05:26

Like, yeah, used by the tree, yeah, it's an oak, like, tree, but then he calls it a Live Oak, and that's a that's not where that goes, right? That's weird. That's not how that works. And so like, I don't, I don't

Collin  1:05:43

know. He also doesn't, doesn't know the snake that he sees, right? That it's actually a rattle snake in some

Brandon  1:05:51

of some capacity, too. That's confusing, because I looked it up and there, there's not, yes, we don't have rattlesnakes in the Caribbean, except for one, Collin. Did you know that there is one rattlesnake species that lives in the Caribbean, right? There is an Aruba rattlesnake, what's called the Aruba Island rattlesnake, okay, and it lives, you guessed it, on the island of Aruba, off of the north coast of Venezuela, only the only place, only one. Yeah, it's so cute, isn't it? Oh, my gosh. And so I don't know if

Collin  1:06:45

this is a little, like you said, a little bit of anachronistic where the our author is pulling together bits and pieces of fantastical things to put it all together

Brandon  1:06:57

for the English audience in England, right? All of these things are like new and like exist, right? And so we just put all the exotic things together in one made up location to make it seem distant and far away. Even more right? Even more crazy. Yeah, yeah, so that that's all like live oaks are a thing in the Americas, right? Rattlesnakes are a North American phenomenon. Rattlesnakes only. They are native to North and South America only, right? That's interesting. I learned that today, and the cute little Aruba Island rattlesnake hanging out there in the southern swamplands of Aruba doing cool stuff, right? Anyway, so, yeah, he's just running around, and he picked a weird place to go because he's like, through, like, it's kind of like, marshy, right? And gross here.

Collin  1:07:56

Yeah,

Brandon  1:07:58

he spooks up a duck, right?

Collin  1:08:02

Ooh, so exotic. Yeah,

Brandon  1:08:03

yeah, so exotic. You know the duck. But it turns out the ducks were useful because very they kind of were as more people approached, they like, made a ruckus, and he was able to ascertain that some other people were coming near him, because they also scared up the ducks, which, you know, that's just how ducks work. So that's good, right? Like 50, that is fair. So he hears them, right? And it is, of course, you know, he like crawls over there, like you do, you know. And it's old Long John, old Long John again, group. Course, who else would it be, right? Yeah, the only person there is here. So it's him talking with some some people here. And this is not great, right? This conversation is not the best. No, no,

Collin  1:09:21

it's it's not. And he starts off with this monolog about, I think's Gold Dust of you, gold dust. And you melee to that, if I hadn't looked to you to, like, pit, took to you like pitch, do you think I'd have been here a warning of you? Basically, I think he's saying, like, I thought better of you, and because I've been watching you so closely now I know better. Like, and he's now, and then the other man's kind of, like, it's, like, leery of him, very leery. Like, kind of, like, then starts, I don't wanna say, like, begging for him, but like, there's a little bit of back and forth here about what's going on, yeah.

Brandon  1:09:55

And he's basically like, Yo, you know, you know, I know what's up to. Do it. And I this is not good, and I don't like it. And blah, blah blah. And, you know, you've got money already, and you've gotta, oh yeah, you know, all this stuff. So you don't need to do any of this. And blah blah blah. And, you know, basically silver, like, he starts walking away, and silver just picks up a piece of tree.

Collin  1:10:25

Well, this is real quick. This is after we find out that somebody else has been murdered. There's a big shot, yeah, shot. And somebody screams out, and he says, Yeah. He says, Oh,

Brandon  1:10:41

that would be, oh, I reckon. He goes, that, oh, oh, I reckon that'll be Alan, yeah, Alan. Like, what?

Collin  1:10:52

At this point, Tom turns, and he goes, if I die like a dog, I'll die and make duty. You've killed, Alan. Have you kill me too, if you can, but I defies you. And he went to turn and this was like, Oh, this is brutal

Brandon  1:11:06

tree branch at all. He just picks up a tree branch and, like, javelins it at this dude, and it back, hits him in the back, and he just falls down. Now, Jim doesn't really know, right? Jim can't figure out exactly what's going on. Right? Silver was as agile as a monkey, even with without leg or crutch, it was on top of him the next moment, had twice buried his knife up to the hilt in the defense's body, right from my place of ambush, I could hear him pant allowed as he struck the blows. So you know, Jim doesn't really know, because Jim's like, oh, he hit him so hard it snapped his spine. Like, I think that probably is true. I think it knocked him down, and then silver just jumped on him with it, stabbing him. I feel like that would sever his spine, make more tree branch. That's not, you that doesn't make any sense. But you know whatever, I don't but,

Brandon  1:12:12

yeah, so the two of the crewmen are now dead, very Yes, that's not great, so I know, yeah. And

Collin  1:12:29

at this point, Jim realizes he's in a very precarious spot now, and because Long John blows on the whistle and basically is a signal of like, okay, everybody come in and our boy here is ready to exit. Instantly, I began to extricate myself and crawl back again. Yes, good job.

Brandon  1:12:56

And you know he could as I did so I could hear hails coming and going between the old Buccaneers comrades, and the sound of danger lent me wings. Right? So he is running. I ran as I never ran before, scare, minding the direction of my flight, or scarce minding the direction of my flight, so long as it led me from the murderers. And as I ran, fear grew and grew upon me until it turned into a kind of threat, right? And now he's like, Oh, also, I'm lost. Oh, dang it. What the

Collin  1:13:31

heck? Well, well now, but like he's he's running through what this means that he's running away, right? Yeah, he goes, now, I really am lost, because how can I go down to the boats to get out of here to be saved? But because

Brandon  1:13:47

he's gonna go hang out with them. Because, you know, yeah,

Collin  1:13:51

they're gonna ask him some questions. Would not the first among them who saw me ring my neck like a Snipes, would not my absence itself be an evidence to them of my alarm and therefore my fatal knowledge, and I love that is fatal knowledge, both the fact that they killed but also that it would be deadly to him. Are they? Oh, good stuff, Yes, yep. And so now he's like, it's all over. No matter what I do, I'm gonna I've got a bad I'm in a bad place,

Brandon  1:14:15

yes, but never mind that because, as he's running, right? Oh yes, yeah, and here, oh yeah. All the while I say, I was still running, and without taking any notice, I had drawn near the foot of a little hill where the two peaks and had got into a part of the island where the live oaks grew more widely apart and seemed more like a forest. And there, you know, dot, dot, dot. And here, a fresh alarm brought me to a standstill with a thumping heart. Oh, yes. We go to chapter three, the man of the island. Yeah. Yeah, oh, dear. What on earth is the guy? Right? So, yeah, we just immediately start here from the side of the hill, which was here steep and stony. A spout of gravel was dislodged and fell, rattling and bounding through the trees. My eyes turned instinctively in that direction, and I saw a figure leap with great rapidity behind the trunk of a pie, right? What was, what it was, whether bear or man or monkey, I could, in no wise tell it seems dark and Shaggy, more I knew not, but the terror of this new apparition brought me to a stand. First of all, that's just excellent. Oh,

Collin  1:15:40

paragraph, yeah, like, wonderful.

Brandon  1:15:43

Not beat around the Bucha. That was great. That is great, right? That's fantastic. I'm loving this, yeah, and so it's kind of weird, right? This part's a little bit strange. And he's, like, really freaking out, right? He's like, you know, I can't figure this out. Even down the page, I began to recall what I had heard of cannibals. Oh yes, he's really and I was aids of calling for help. But the mere fact that this was a man, however wild, had somewhat reassured me, and my fear of silver, my fear of silver, began to revive in proportion. So it's like, well, this person probably not as scary as log John Silver, so All right, we're good. Like, he's he kind of has this moment of like, well, oh, this is a scary situation, but the pirate situation is scarier, so

Collin  1:16:46

let's go investigate this guy. What also gives him a little bit more courage here he Yeah, I was also the recollection of my pistol.

Brandon  1:16:55

Oh yeah, as soon as I remembered I was not defenseless. Yes. Courage glowed. Courage glowed again in my heart, and I set my face resolutely for this man of the island and walked briskly toward him. Right. Obviously, yes, yes. Obviously. Wait a minute, I got a gun. I've got guns. I'm strapped up. Let's go.

Collin  1:17:20

Why are we still talking? Let's do this.

Brandon  1:17:22

Yeah, wait a minute. What do I got to be scared of? I have a one shot flintlock pistol. What could go wrong that I definitely know how to use? I asked. Wait a minute. No, no. Wait a minute.

Collin  1:17:41

Yeah. He just walks up now and he says, Who are you?

Brandon  1:17:45

And in response, a croaky answer of Bin gun, right? Sounded hoarse and awkward like a rusty lock. That's a good simile. Also just want to say that's good, yes, all right, so Ben here is, uh, been on this island for three years, right? He's wholly unrecognizable, right? He describes him as the worst beggar he's ever seen, right? Of all the beggar men that I had seen or fancied he was the chief for raggedness. Well, you know,

Collin  1:18:26

in a poorly state here, three, eight years on an island that's fair, three years

Brandon  1:18:30

on island, don't do it to a man, right? So he's, he's really, he's kind of started telling me about himself. And he's like, I've been here. Yeah, marooned three years ago. On he continued and lived on goats since then, and berries and oysters. And this part, I thought was particularly hilarious, because I was like, Oh yeah, same, bro. He was like, but mate, my heart is sore for Christian diet, you might have happened to have a piece of cheese. Now that's out.

Collin  1:19:07

I was thought the same thing. I was

Brandon  1:19:10

like, same man, yes, that's exactly the first thing.

Collin  1:19:14

Great. This is wonderful cheese

Brandon  1:19:18

and cheese, bro, yeah, oh, man, it was wonderful. It's great, right? As a Midwesterner, I can't relate to that very much. It

Collin  1:19:31

starts to get a little dicey. I thought this was interesting because Jim is like, yeah, yeah, if I ever get a board again, you'll have cheese by the stone. And then he repeats the words back to him, right? He but his last words, he perked up into some kind of startled slyness, if you ever get a board again, says you he repeated, why now?

Brandon  1:19:50

Who's to hinder you? And then, like, Ooh, well,

Collin  1:19:54

yeah, this is still a dangerous situation, because we don't know the affiliation or really the desperate nature. Of this, man, yeah, about what's going on,

Brandon  1:20:06

but we do, like Jim just kind of decides that he's gonna tell him, right? But, you know, he's good blah blah. He is a bit, you know, Jim, also, Jim thinks he's a bit wacky, right? Chris, like, he's like, I'm rich. I tell you I'm rich, and he's like, I now felt sure that this poor fellow had gone crazy in his solitude, and I suppose I must have shown the feeling in my face where he repeated the

Brandon  1:20:33

statement hotly, yes, rich, right? Anyway, he now, Jim, he like gets serious again. He's like now, Jim, tell me.

Brandon  1:20:48

Tell me true that ain't Flint's ship, right? And this, I had happy inspiration. I began to believe that I had found an ally. And answered him at once. No, not Flint ship. Flint is dead, but I'll tell you true. As you asked me, there are some of Flint's hand aboard worse luck for the rest of us. And his first question went back, with one leg. Yes, one leg. Silver. I asked I silver? He says that were his name. He is the cook and their ring leader too. He was still holding me by my wrists, and at that he gave it quite a ring. Well, yeah, well, because

Collin  1:21:34

now, now you can see the next phrase here from Ben here is he's now worried that silver, since silver sent him,

Brandon  1:21:44

yeah, he's like, if silver sent you, I'm as good as dead. He says I'm as good as pork. I guess. I guess that means duck stuck, pork stuck like a pig, yeah? I guess so. I guess this is a, you know, as they say, Yeah, you know, all the people that says this, yeah, I'm assuming this just means done, or, you know, yes, weird

Collin  1:22:04

and, and Jim just says, figures, like,

Brandon  1:22:07

I'll just tell him everything, right? Yeah, as well. We'll just see where we stand. I'm just gonna be out with it, and we'll see what's up, you know? And, yeah, it turns out fine, right? Like, like, well,

Collin  1:22:21

that sucks, but we'll get this figured out, right?

Brandon  1:22:25

Being a clove hitch, what we say, Yeah, which is a weird, you know, I guess it's a pretty sailory knot, I suppose, yes, but like, still, it's kind of weird. And he's like, this again, he's like, I can't this part here confused me a lot. Like, I don't know what's going on or if he just is crazy. But he's like, anyway, um, he starts talking about how he will get home. And he's like, so, uh, by the way, you know because you're in such a clove hitch. Um, he told him about the squire. And he's like, but Right? Like, do you think he would, you know, let me go home on the boat? Oh, he's like, do you think you know, if we we dig up this treasure? Do you think I would, uh, he would let me have some because, you know, I had no word. Basically, he's implying that he already knows where it is. But, yeah, this is what he means by he's rich. He's rich, right, yeah. And he's like, he was like, oh, yeah, I'm sure you let you have some. And, you know, because we were supposed to share the treasure anyway. He was like, and passage home, perhaps. And he's like, he's really, he's like, Well, yeah, especially because if we get rid of the fiends will need help sailing the crew, sailing the ship home. And he's like, that's great. Like, Oh yeah, yeah, I guess you

Collin  1:23:48

do need help. Oh gosh. Passage secured, job safety. Let's do this.

Brandon  1:23:56

So, so now we get some kind of the backstory here, right? So now that we've, we've secured this, he's like, All right, now I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what I know, right, so, or at least some of what I know, right? He's like, he was on Flint ship, yes, right, he will. He was sailing with flint, right? Flint went on this island. He sailed ashore in a in a boat with six men to bury the treasure, right? And Flint came back alone, alone, right? But there he was, you mind and the six, all dead, dead and buried. How he done it? Not a man aboard us could make out it was a battle murder and sudden death. Lease wise him against six, right? And we get some more backstory. Billy Bones was the mate Long John the quartermaster. Thunder, and they asked him where the treasure was. Ah, he says, You can go ashore, if you like, and stay but as for this ship, she'll beat up no more by thunder. That's what he said. So boom, so we know how the treasure got to the island, right? Flint came to bury it. He did not trust that his location would be safe, and so he killed six members of his crew, and I'm assuming, buried them with the treasure, or just left them somewhere. We don't know, yeah, but that is what's happened here, right? And then, weirdly, this part's the weird part, right? He was on another ship. And yeah, they came back. Yeah. He was just on a different boat, right? And they were passing by, and he was like, Hey guys, I recognize that island. That's where old Captain Flint buried his treasure. We should go land and try to find it. The captain was displeased with that, but the mess mates were all of a mind and landed. 12 days they looked for it, and every day there had the worst words for me, until one fine morning, all hands went aboard, and they basically said, All right, this is foolish. You're dumb. We're leaving. But if you want to find it so much, you can stay here. We're leaving without you. We're marooning you on this island. They left him a musket, a spade and a pickaxe, and said, bye, yep, and that was it,

Brandon  1:26:38

yeah. And they lived in there. Now this, this next part here. This is the part where I have no idea what's going on, right? He says, Well, Jim, three years have I been here and not a bite of Christian diet from that day to this? But now you look here, look at me. Do I look like a man before the mast. No, says, you No, I weren't. Neither said, I says. And with that, he winked and pinched me hard, you just mentioned them words to your squire, Jim. He went on, no, he weren't, neither. That's the words three years here, where the man on this island light and dark, fair and rain and sometimes he would maybe think upon prayer here's like, what? What is that supposed to be? What the heck,

Collin  1:27:35

yeah, I this way. I did not know. I don't know what he's really trying to get at here. What he's trying to get Jim to either understand or believe, he seems really, really pressed to make sure that Jim

Brandon  1:27:55

relays a certain message to the squire, right? Yes, he's like, then he continued, you'll up and you'll say, this gun is a good man, you'll say, and he puts a precious sight, more confidence and precious sight mind that in a genial man born in these gentlemen of Fortune have been one his self and Jim's whole response to this is, well, I said, I don't understand one word of what you've been saying.

Collin  1:28:23

Love, that I was like, All

Brandon  1:28:24

right, so Jim doesn't know what's going on. That makes me feel better, because I have absolutely no idea what he's rattling on about. I had to read this section twice because,

Brandon  1:28:33

like, What in the world? What are you saying? Man, now this could just be

Brandon  1:28:41

he's been out in the sun for a long time, trapped alone on an island for three years. I don't know what he's trying to tell us. I don't know if we're gonna find out. I don't know if he's like, I don't know if this is supposed to be some like, Freemason code shenanigans, right?

Collin  1:28:58

Like, I don't know what's going on because he, because he him starting saying, like, do I look like somebody before the mass? Like, the only thing that came to mind was, is, he, is he does he? Is he trying to pretend like he wasn't a sailor for some weird reason? Like,

Brandon  1:29:17

I don't know. Because

Collin  1:29:19

why else are you out here on this island. Like, this is I told Yeah, I don't, I

Brandon  1:29:23

don't know, yeah, because that story about, like, the crew getting annoyed with him, just leaving him there, that's a bit suspicious. That doesn't seem like a normal thing that, but, but, like, right? You know, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not a pirate. I have no idea what, timely. So, yeah, this, this part's weird. I've been Ben's got hit this confusing, right? So, yeah, I don't really know what's going on here, so we'll see if we get any answers, or if he's just as old from being out in the sun too long, right?

Collin  1:29:58

Yeah, because now Jim. Is worried about how to get back. And turns out it doesn't, yeah, it turns out there's other things to be afoot here. Well, Ben's got a vote. So Ben's first notion is just like, Cool. We'll just

Brandon  1:30:10

go. I'll just take you. But then, yeah, there's some, some noises, yeah, right there, you know, they're running. And he says, Just then, although the sun still had an hour or two to run, all the echoes of the island awoke and bellowed to the thunder of a cannon. What so they start

Collin  1:30:34

running? If the fighting

Brandon  1:30:36

has begun? Yeah, that's what he says. We're so he's postulating. So he's they take off running. And, you know, this whole time, Ben's like, no, come, come to the left. Stay in the trees, stay out of sight, you know. But then he starts prattling on about, that's where

Collin  1:30:51

I killed my first goat, right? Oh my gosh. This lady so fun. This was so funny. I was just like, of course, he hasn't talked to anybody in years, so he's just sort of rambling on about things. He starts like, there's cemetery,

Brandon  1:31:03

cemetery. Like, What? What? Oh, he almost says, Mary sedimery, yeah, the cemetery. He must have meant, right. You see the mounds I come here, and he's just like, telling them about his day, but they're just running right? So he kept talking as I ran, neither expecting nor receiving any answer, and then the closing of the chapter right the cannon shot was followed after a considerable interval by a volley of small arm another pause, and then not a quarter mile in front of me, I beheld The Union Jack flutter in the air above a wood. Yes,

Collin  1:31:49

the British are coming.

Brandon  1:31:51

I mean, Jim's here. He's a British so, like, I don't know what's going. Yeah, we what?

Collin  1:32:01

Why are they involved? What is going on? Yeah,

Brandon  1:32:03

what's happening here, yeah, um, so, yeah, that's where we get.

Brandon  1:32:10

That's where we are. Jim is on the island, um, and we're confused a little bit, right? Not in a good way. So, yeah, not in a

Brandon  1:32:19

good way, no? So, yeah, we've got some things to think about here. So something that's going down probably, probably very long, I guess. So,

Collin  1:32:32

there we go. Yeah, I have it. I'm interested to see where we go from here. Yeah, kicked off, probably resolved. Yeah, something at least,

Brandon  1:32:43

yeah, it appears that it has, uh, kicked something is kicked off. I don't know what, but something for sure, yes. So yeah, it's good. It's good. I'm liking Yes, a lot. It was good, even though Ben is a very confusing fellow, and I'm not entirely sure what he was talking about halftime. It basically maybe 75% of the time. But, you know, it's fine, so yeah, that we'll see if we could decipher what on earth is going on and then

Collin  1:33:19

do something about it. About that? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. So this is good. I have, I do have a haiku to leave. Haikus are about experiences and things that happen. So here's, I'm

Brandon  1:33:38

already excited.

Collin  1:33:40

I can't read this as a straight face for better nasal strip in place, air flows like a mountain breeze. Blood sings with new life. Yes, I'm oxygenated. You're right. They're about moments, capturing moments. Boom, beautiful. The world is a buzz. My things are more vibrant. I could hear clearer. It's just my life has been changed. So I put it on the calendar, ready to celebrate. Nice. Let's go. So, oh, man, well, good. Okay, this is good. We will continue going forward for sure, yeah, and go from there. Okay, neat. And I guess we'll see you again soon.

Brandon  1:34:39

That's true. Yeah,

Collin  1:34:43

okay, you're good. We will do this again soon. All right.

Brandon  1:34:49

Love you too. Bye. You.