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Have you ever looked into a pug’s eyes? Don’t. We go down a rabbit hole to figure out the sound from Collin’s youth. We make a lot of amazing internet discoveries on this episode, so hang on! PLUS… the ranking you never knew you wanted… The TOP FIVE films with mice in them.

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movie, cat, mouse, milo, rescuers, watch, great mouse detective, nim, secrets, people, pug, tale, dog, remember, voice, aaron, disney, cancun, japanese, exist

SPEAKERS

Collin, Aaron

 

Collin  00:04

Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon, Collin and Aaron. On this week's show. Another nice genre.

 

00:19

Hola.

 

00:22

Hello. Hello.

 

Collin  00:25

Hold on. Wha wha

 

00:34

I can't hear anything.

 

00:38

Hello?

 

00:38

Yes.

 

Collin  00:40

Hello. Oh man. Okay, cool. Helps you plug your headphones in. No it was plugged in it was just using a different I am I am downstairs in the dining room just like the olden days of recording.

 

00:55

And

 

Collin  00:56

I have because we got dropped off a two pugs in a Maltese is today. Often the same family who don't like to be left alone?

 

01:11

at all, like at all? Oh, you know, not even don't walk into the next room. stare at them? Yes. As they stare back at me. But they're cold agii eyes.

 

01:30

pugs, you have a very strange eyes.

 

01:31

I will. I will say they're very This will make me uncomfortable sometimes. Like they're so like. Gigantic, like I don't know.

 

Collin  01:45

It's unsettling. And then like, to me, it's like, Oh, look at that little tiny face. And then this giant gaping more of a mouth opens and you're like

 

02:03

That's true.

 

Collin  02:05

That's such an odd little dog. Right? They are. Unless people really like them. So I'm not trying to disparage the pugs. Anyway, I just find them

 

02:16

odd looking as though they are offense to all those pug owners out there but

 

02:28

never really even interacted with a pug. I don't think that can come to mind immediately. Sure. So I have no opinion on like pug behavior only. They look odd, like well, and Well, I

 

Collin  02:51

mean, the only pugs that I have interacted with prior to this. I think maybe we had one other one was a really old pug. But prior to that was from Milo at Otis. And so a movie I constantly forget about

 

03:10

because I'm a burden.

 

Collin  03:13

Yeah, I think we've talked about that before. Like I remember

 

03:15

that. There's a there's a crab in a river.

 

03:22

gapped all i got, right. They have kittens and puppies. Couldn't

 

03:27

don't have any much. I remember the part with the river in the crab. Yeah. I remember. I bought anyway, is it in there? Is

 

03:40

it narrated the movie narrated? Is it is happening in their marriage or do they talk like Homeward Bound?

 

Collin  03:47

No, they do not talk. It's the same narrator it's the same narrator that does different voices for them.

 

03:54

Okay,

 

03:54

so narrate it's narrated. Yeah.

 

03:57

I see. I couldn't remember that. Oh, well. Yeah. Anyway, I was just

 

Collin  04:04

so is it? Is it good? Did we do we know? Has anybody seen my own artists in the last 20 years? Is it I don't know? does it hold up? Is it a good movie?

 

04:13

idea. Challenge challenge challenge.

 

Collin  04:16

What does one even find Milo? Notice I have any?

 

04:22

I don't know. I don't know.

 

04:23

I did.

 

Collin  04:25

So while the owners were. How do you spell Milo and Otis? While the owners were dropping off. They're not typing notes. But while the owners were dropping off their dogs, I was just like, inside my body. I was so excited because I was like, I'm going to finally be able to ask a pug owner. If they've watched Milo notice, right. And so I'm standing there just waiting for the right opportunity for them to do that. And then there's kind of a lull in the conversation and they go so have you seen That that movie Milo and Otis. He kind of looked at me like, like, yeah, yeah, we've seen that.

 

05:09

Yeah. Yeah, that's the only context people have for for pugs,

 

Collin  05:18

nobody actually has ever met a pug before. That's what I'm getting here. Do they do pugs even really exist? Are they real? boys in my house?

 

05:36

Again? I don't know.

 

05:42

I'll let you know they're with us for nine days.

 

05:46

So you go, Wow, that's

 

05:48

a long time.

 

05:50

They're going to Cancun. Oh, which is fun. All right. I mean, I guess Oh, I'll take your word for it.

 

Collin  06:01

There are so never been to camp. Never been to Cancun never seen a pug. This is really weird day right now for me. Turns out, I think you are we're finding out a lot about. But the number of people that we know that go to Cancun on like a monthly basis is more than one, which is surprising. So I mean, I think the fact that you one of your professions is a dog sitter, which means, you know, lots of people that go on vacation frequently would lead me to believe that these results are slightly skewed. But like, even I know but like the same people who are gonna go, well, we're going to go, we're going to Cancun again, right. That's the part that is so shocking. Like, it's very odd. I will say that. They're like, Oh, well, we had a free weekend. So we're going to Cancun. Like, that's weird. But they drive an hour and a half into Kansas City get a direct flight to Cancun for like 70 bucks, and good to go.

 

07:25

Guests gesso,

 

Collin  07:26

which is shocking. I doesn't appeal to me, but Oh, well. Me neither. But I mean, like, I'm not really like a beachy person. Like, hey, do you want to hang out on the beach? No. No,

 

07:45

not really. As Oh,

 

Collin  07:47

what else you got? Like?

 

07:52

Any Anything else? Yeah. I mean,

 

Collin  07:56

I mean, I know, I realized there's other things to do in campaign, right. But they do have an industry sort of based on

 

08:03

beaching

 

Collin  08:04

for sure, right, so like,

 

08:07

that's kind of what I do. Yeah,

 

Collin  08:09

well, they have other stuff right? You can see like the Mayan ruins right? You can go to like a snow day you can do all kinds of there's other like cultural experiences you can have in the

 

08:23

Yucatan Peninsula but most people go to beach so like

 

Collin  08:33

oh sorry, I I had a glitch in the system but I think we're back to normal now. So okay, sorry.

 

08:39

I haven't

 

Collin  08:40

had to do a my mo I haven't set up my mobile podcasting Reagan like forever so it's you know alright, ironing them out at the beginning it's fine sailor smooth sailing here in about 30 to 64 minutes strewn all I can find update all I can find is you have to like purchase Milo and Otis for viewing for like $3 from

 

09:10

like Amazon or something

 

Collin  09:11

it is but you it's not apparently on prime you have to like buy it. And I'm not really about that life. I don't really want to watch my interest that badly.

 

09:25

So well, I guess I'll never know.

 

Collin  09:32

Just no way to find out.

 

09:34

literally no way to find I can't possibly tell you whether or not my nose is good. With my life, it would be like the narrator has an annoying voice. I'd be like, Oh, yeah, that's why I didn't like it. I don't know. Not sure.

 

Collin  09:57

Oh, random, random. You talk about it. is a fox

 

10:00

in me possibly do it anyway? Sorry, probably. Now this is going to be really random. And I don't know why.

 

10:08

So on par with this show.

 

Collin  10:12

Colin, Have you listened to the show before? First? As a first time listener, longtime caller, all the listeners are going, Yeah, we know kind of kind of what you guys do.

 

10:25

But he's talking about

 

Collin  10:27

that sounds like that kind of bring you back to a moment, like the voice. Like if you were to hear that, like you'd have these different things that would bring to mind from it. I was walking in our back door, and we have a keypad entry to get into our doors, and the door unlocked, and it made the sound. And I have no idea where the sound came from, from my childhood. But it's a sound that I remember. And I remember hearing it a lot, but I have no idea where it is. Okay, this is the sound of ghosts.

 

11:01

earring on. What? Oh, eerie. Yeah.

 

11:12

Aaron, I want to and Aaron. Thanks.

 

11:14

So there used to be a if there's two possibilities. So the first possibility is that one of you guys have like a little funny messaging messaging, like, selling like, computer. And if you like and you can play a game on it. And it made that sound if you like I have something going wrong. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. I

 

Collin  11:44

think that was calling divine. Yeah, yeah, it was it was a red and blue kind of laptop looking thing. Yeah, right.

 

11:51

Yeah. Play with it. Because I think, like, I know that sounds true. What was the

 

Collin  12:03

what was the other possibility? Before we do some more googling about what I call him? Google's blue and red spelling device? I wanted to 90s

 

12:16

I don't know. So it just kind of like a one a option of like, we have like a teddy. Ruff, ruff. Oh,

 

12:29

yeah, but I don't remember making noises like that.

 

12:31

It didn't. But that was the other random 1990s electronic toy that I can only think of. Oh,

 

Collin  12:39

so that sound the sound that I first of all, kudos for the spelling, because I completely forgot that existed until just right now.

 

12:49

Yeah, well, yeah. Same.

 

Collin  12:51

Good job there. I thought it sounded like the old VCR from the basement.

 

13:00

Yeah, I thought it could be it could be it

 

Collin  13:02

because that thing made the weirdest noises. Like when it was doing stuff. It was it was the it was the most noisy machine. Right? It had all kinds of really weird noises for when you were rewinding, and then like, when it was done rewinding you're trying to inject or when it got stuck injecting Yeah, so that's that it put me in mind of that VCR. This this VCR.

 

13:30

Ladies gentlemen, it was like

 

Collin  13:33

it was definitely from like 1985 it was

 

13:40

it was enormous.

 

Collin  13:43

In like, two parts, for some reason, is in two halves. Because like half of it could be detached and like carried around and attached to like a camcorder. So you could like that's how, yeah, I don't know why the other half existed. I don't know what its job was really. But it was very mechanical. You could like see inside and see all these like, worrying things. Right? It's very strange.

 

14:14

Yeah, and I don't it just because

 

Collin  14:17

I know that it was related to like, gears or something moving. But I for whatever reason, again, it just this sense memory of that sound from from the younger days of entering. And it could it could have it could have been the VCR

 

14:40

for sure. Because

 

Collin  14:43

I remember just hearing the sound like over and over and over again. Like if you were hitting the wrong thing, like it was kind of like a reject. It was rejecting thing. Yeah. But anyway, sorry. That's what my brain does. And if I walk into my house, right Could you find a listeners Collin has sent in a beautiful picture of this. Apparently it's called the V tech talking whiz kid Plus, I have no idea what it actually does. It is most assuredly blue and red though. I say that right now.

 

15:19

It Aaron

 

Collin  15:20

has corrected, it does appear to be some sort of spelling device. Yeah, practicing spelling. I only know that because one of the symbols on the side definitely says spelling bee with the icon. Clearly. There's also something called number chain and letter blaster.

 

15:41

Whatever that is.

 

Collin  15:42

So it is most assuredly some sort of laptop looking thing. Yeah, but not not a laptop. Right. Let's just be very clear. It's a toy that looks like a laptop. But like the actually a very, very small OLED screen in the middle

 

16:01

with a variety of exciting things here.

 

Collin  16:07

I wonder if there's a sound clip that goes with it to tell if that's

 

16:13

you too. Yeah. Yeah. So I think the if that. Yeah.

 

Collin  16:18

Did you really Google red and blue?

 

16:21

Yes. I typed Yes, of course. I did. It didn't work. I don't know. I have no idea. Whether a thing actually works. Yeah. Huh.

 

Collin  16:34

Oh, well. Here's a there's a there's a YouTube video of someone using looks like an older version of it. Not the one that we had. But interesting. Oh,

 

16:44

did we have that? That's, I don't?

 

Collin  16:46

I don't know. I just remember it being around.

 

16:50

So where do they come from?

 

Collin  16:54

They just appear like my own notice. No one actually.

 

17:00

Yeah, great.

 

Collin  17:01

When did that originally come out? That was a that's like a 96. I just looked it up. I looked it up

 

17:10

when I was looking to see if it was available for view. Okay, and decided I couldn't be bothered to pay money for it.

 

Collin  17:16

Okay, so here's a part that I completely missed. Okay. The description of this show. This movie, The Adventures of a young cat and a dog as they find themselves accidentally straying from their farm in Japan. Does anybody remember them being in Japan?

 

17:36

No.

 

Collin  17:38

Context is completely lost on me. A dairy 100%

 

17:51

I had no idea. I don't remember. I don't either.

 

17:54

Again, all I remember is the river. Like cuddly literally be anywhere so like,

 

Collin  18:00

but I remembered like dairy cows and things like that. And I doesn't conjure you do pan. I there was a fox though. Yes. I think there was Yeah,

 

18:10

there's Japan have red foxes.

 

18:12

I don't

 

Collin  18:15

I don't know. Google. Tell me does. This is so I'm so confused. Now. I

 

18:22

understand. What a whirl. Sorry. I don't understand.

 

Collin  18:33

What's happening. Yes, apparently there is a Japanese red fox

 

18:39

right now. Well, I'm not

 

Collin  18:46

even going to attempt to pronounce this region name in Japan. But yes. Widely ranging from grasslands to Alpine belts. in

 

18:58

Hokkaido. That's how I'm going with me. I like it. There we go. Okay, so

 

19:09

confirmed. Japan does have fox is

 

19:13

good news. Right.

 

Collin  19:20

And I'm assuming they have Crabs as well. So it's just all making sense now is

 

19:27

true.

 

Collin  19:29

Side note, the Japanese red fox happens to be adorable. So just in case you're curious. Yes, it is. Still foxes are adorable in general.

 

19:39

Yes. Right. But

 

Collin  19:40

this one is just continuing the trend of adorable creatures. Just let it go that you've seen you've seen the Tibetan Fox right.

 

19:52

Oh, good grief. Yes. Okay, great. Yeah, okay. Okay, fine. I think it's so cute. Holy cow. There we go, man. Yeah, I did it. What other context for Japan is in Milan?

 

Collin  20:11

Oh, we definitely have to watch this again to. Because, again, listeners, this is all going up based off of 25 year old plus memory. So

 

20:23

that's true.

 

Collin  20:24

I remember. So also for context, we've definitely somebody gave us a pirated copy of this. They had like recorded it onto VHS tape. We had a double feature. Yeah, it was definitely. It was that we got it from Barb in Illinois. Thanks, Barb.

 

20:43

It was like modeling Otis slash Disney's Robin Hood.

 

Collin  20:51

Right. Yeah, it was together, because apparently they're both very short. They fit on a single VHS tape. And so

 

21:00

one of those we watched a lot.

 

Collin  21:04

And the other one we had, clearly much.

 

21:08

Yeah.

 

21:11

Basically, because I can quote Robinhood. verbatim. And I can tell you basically nothing about my team

 

21:19

didn't even know what's major setting.

 

Collin  21:22

Yeah, I had no idea was in Japan. I had absolutely no idea. So I wonder what because most time they're in the wilderness. Sure. Right. And so I guess there's nothing like particularly Japanese about a field or a forest. Or river, or River and the only other animals that I remember them encountering were a crab and a Fox Fox. None of which. Particularly screamed Japan to me either.

 

21:51

Yeah. Especially to

 

Collin  21:54

especially to a nine year old. Yeah. Right. Who has foxes in his backyard? So like,

 

22:02

to me? You weren't going that genius actually isn't found in the Western world?

 

Collin  22:08

Yeah, I wasn't saying Oh, that's a vault this vault this Japan, right? I have no idea. So yeah, beings that I had a fox in my backyard. frequently. I would just be like, Oh, this must be somewhere nearby. No crabs in Missouri, that I'm aware of. But you know, still like maybe it's the maybe the farm is like, particularly like Japanese. See, I couldn't even remember anything like, like houses or structures, or anything like that, or bridges or roads. So I I only have them running through a field in my brain. So yeah, and when there were the river, there's kind of like on a sand.

 

22:53

Yes. I, yes. Yes.

 

Collin  22:58

I seem to remember. Sand Enos.

 

23:01

Sorry. I don't either. I have no idea.

 

Collin  23:08

None of these pictures are very helpful. If you Google My Luna fixtures that just, I don't even know which one is which. Let's be real here. I don't know which one is my only

 

23:21

which one is this? Okay, so I'm gonna click on this. We're gonna take, we're gonna take bets. Let me figure out who this is.

 

23:28

Oh, no.

 

Collin  23:30

I have no idea what's happening. Okay, okay. Okay. So, Brandon, who do you think yes,

 

23:38

is Milo? I've out.

 

Collin  23:42

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the cat has to be Milo.

 

23:45

Okay, Aaron. Aaron. I'm gonna say the dog Milo. Okay, Brandon, you're right. The cat

 

Collin  23:53

is in fact,

 

23:54

Milo.

 

Collin  23:56

I just felt like oh, this is much more dog name. So like

 

24:04

okay, this is this is actually this is the

 

Collin  24:08

this movie was set in Japan, because it is originally a Japanese film. That was then Dubbed into English.

 

24:18

Really?

 

Collin  24:19

Yes. The original Japanese version was narrated by this

 

24:23

visual I do

 

24:24

that as well. Now I want to watch the Japanese.

 

Collin  24:27

Now I don't care about this English version. I want to know Oh, yeah, no, it was just a bear.

 

24:33

What? Yeah, it was a bear. Yeah, I got familiar I don't remember this is going on.

 

Collin  24:46

My life is so confusing.

 

24:52

Oh, okay. Okay.

 

Collin  24:55

Even more. Are you ready for the the full version of the mile and Otis universe? Are you ready

 

25:00

are you ready for a full visit Expanded Universe?

 

25:04

Are you kidding me?

 

25:06

There's a night there's a 1986 video okay once familiar is a video game was

 

Collin  25:20

was released for the Japanese exclusive Famicom Disk System which I'm looking at right now

 

25:30

I

 

Collin  25:31

have not seen a favicon in a billion and a half years my goodness those things are amazing

 

25:39

wow

 

Collin  25:40

I if Casey oh there we go cat I am so my my mind is exploding I have no idea

 

25:52

I am this is who okay that's insane wow oh I love the way that thing works thing is amazing.

 

Collin  26:07

Oh yes you listeners this again this listeners favorite part where we send pictures to each other

 

26:17

so our

 

Collin  26:20

explainer in chief How would you describe the favicon Disk System? Well first of all, I would just google family calm but it's

 

26:34

it's a weird little thing.

 

Collin  26:35

It looks kind of like a really old floppy drive.

 

26:40

Right?

 

Collin  26:41

It's like mounted on a box and there's a controller that like sticks directly into it it's very strange it's it's a very weird little thing either. This one is red and white being that color

 

26:56

but there you go.

 

Collin  27:00

How exciting I'm so this Milo thing is tripping me out like crazy, man.

 

27:08

Wow.

 

Collin  27:10

Yeah, I'm so confused. I have listeners if you've ever seen my lead notice. I want to know your thoughts if you've seen it more recently the 1995 I would also definitely like to know your I'm this this. There's so much to smile. And this was shot over the course of four years by a zoo by a zoologist masanori hotta and consisted of over 400,000 feet of footage.

 

27:40

Oh, movies an hour long What in the world?

 

Collin  27:45

So the English one must be much different than the original Japanese version. Right? Because the the the English the Japanese one actually had poetry recited while the film was going on. I don't even know if it told the Matic cohesive story like might not have been Am I just gonna be like a like a vignette thing? Right. Right. It sounds like it could be like a vignette.

 

28:11

situation. Yeah. So weird. so confused.

 

Collin  28:22

I can enter the video game you play Milo the cat. And you go through demand no love the protis No. But it looks very immune. It's, it looks basically like Mario, though it's a it's a it's a left to right scrolling game, where there's all early video games were left right scroll platformers they were all less regulated platformer, setting some context, except for the ones that we were flying right and had to fly basically fall. Right, right. Not hit things. So it's like a reverse platformer was like don't get the platform platform. And the thing that makes it interesting is that that you're set up on a day and month. And as you progress throughout the day, that it like the sky changes. And so you're having to get to certain checkpoints before the end of each day.

 

29:19

Yeah,

 

Collin  29:20

maybe if I knew the context of the story of my nose, I understand what you're doing. I guess you're just trying to get home. Right? Is this because you're just really just like, I think it is. Is this really just like the is Milo notice really just a prologue for homeward bound. Is that what's happening right now?

 

29:37

This is this is

 

29:40

bound version version. version one, right? This

 

29:43

is alpha version.

 

29:54

must be it.

 

Collin  29:56

Add a second dog.

 

29:58

Right. Yeah. They go done

 

Collin  30:04

for release. Everybody, why is everybody complaining? Yeah. It's weird that animal adventure movies we used to be a genre. They did. Right and I haven't seen one and like, Do they still exist? Is this a dead genre is the animal adventure movie a dead genre movie?

 

30:29

Okay,

 

Collin  30:31

because nobody make animal adventure movies anymore.

 

30:33

Well, well,

 

Collin  30:34

it's other than like, like feature length movies, not like animated. Not like I'm not talking like Paw Patrol here. That's the thing. I've heard that exists is the thing. I do work in an elementary school after all. I've heard this animal adventure movie. Well, what

 

30:53

was the one? What was the?

 

30:55

What was the?

 

Collin  30:56

What was the jack London book that Harrison Ford? played in? With the

 

31:03

Oh, yeah.

 

Collin  31:04

Yeah, but that one has a person in it, right? I'm talking about like, pure animal Advent like only animals. True, because like my notice, only animals are bound. Only animals Really? Like there's a few like random people in it. But they're not like the point. Homeward Bound to Electric Boogaloo obviously. Yeah, is this this is a genre movie that seems to not exist anymore? Well, except especially in this format, where it is live action. And yeah,

 

31:45

right. Yeah, yeah,

 

Collin  31:48

I would I agree. I don't think they're doing any any more of those.

 

31:53

There be

 

Collin  31:54

obviously Google animal adventure movies. Okay, see what happens here. See what see what pops up there?

 

31:59

I mean,

 

Collin  32:00

I want to see they're all yeah, these are all

 

32:05

it's given me like Tarzan all that's not really the Lion King. See? I

 

Collin  32:12

wouldn't count that one. I think the live action animal adventure movies are very short lived.

 

32:21

Oh, cats and dogs.

 

Collin  32:23

That's a relatively recent.

 

32:26

I didn't see that when we go. Okay, so there is I didn't either but it's on this list. Okay. There is a one

 

32:32

and then like, what's the other one that other really dumb one?

 

32:35

Like?

 

Collin  32:37

Like a Beverly Hills Chihuahua. There you go. That's another exists. Yes. There we go. It's a really odd that this we've just we've accidentally discovered this bizarre sub genre of movies. Live Action animal adventure films. Like Gosh. Cuz Yeah, I wouldn't count like anthropomorphize animals on Zootopia right. That

 

33:03

does No, no, no, no, like, man.

 

Collin  33:08

There we go. So it looks like cats and dogs.

 

33:12

Beverly Hills to Allah. My Lord. Oh, we're gonna do positive three was at home about three. Oh, I don't know.

 

33:26

Man, Beverly Hills while I had had Drew Barrymore in it avoid Yeah,

 

Collin  33:31

lots of weird people in a weird. That's a weird movie that I just remembered existed when I said yeah, Cheech Marin. George Lopez.

 

33:41

Yeah. Oh, that is very I don't want Oh, there's a Beverly Hills Chihuahua.

 

33:51

Three came out in 2000. So that well that

 

Collin  33:54

that must mean there's a two Yeah, I guess. It was a barrel which is too. Extended Beverly Hills Chihuahua universe. Who knew that not me? I knew you were just dying to know more. That's for sure more about them. I just knew there was a first one man there's a lot of movies on this list that I have not seen. Like in a million years, right. It's crazy. Or did you want to

 

34:23

say to you what I mean? Yeah. Like I might save them for

 

Collin  34:30

different conversations, but like, fair enough over done with this one, but

 

34:35

wow, there we go. So what a nice genre. I wonder if like,

 

Collin  34:50

Milo notice is secretly like a weird like call it classic that's revered by animal adventure enthusiasts. Oh, you know it is it's the best one out there are really mad at me because I don't remember movies I watched when I was nine. Like I don't you know, like it the second scene Milo is so I'm sorry guys, I can't remember which one was with you. Man we've been canceled so many times right now so I don't know. No milea notice get out. And I really want to see if we can find the Japanese version of that because I am. I'm afraid of the Japanese version at this point. Like, it sounds really intense and I kind of am scared. Like, it sounds bad. Like, I don't know if you want to go down that road. I don't know if I want that. I don't

 

35:53

it sounds horrified. Please also for actually seeing the actually seeing the just the one I saw like the American because I don't remember it.

 

Collin  36:13

Remember the plot? Like I literally have no idea what happens this movie? Sure.

 

36:19

Yeah, I think I know I watched it more than once. But again,

 

Collin  36:23

I was nine I think so.

 

36:29

That was a while ago.

 

Collin  36:34

I was Yeah, I was 25 years ago at this

 

36:37

point. So

 

36:40

good. Oh, yeah. Yay.

 

Collin  36:52

My goodness. There's a website called cinema cats.com that does all of what use about

 

36:57

cats and kittens.

 

37:02

Just cat movies.

 

Collin  37:05

What are some things on this list? Well, cause he's been killed now.

 

37:20

It breaks it down by cat breed. What? how extensive?

 

Collin  37:27

Well, that's a labor of love right there. Somebody is a true enthusiast. We This is actually really intense.

 

37:37

It sounds very

 

37:38

dense, though.

 

Collin  37:39

So the cat breeds you can. The bangle the British shorthair the Cornish Rex, the Devon Rex, the exotic shorthair the Himalayan the Japanese Bobtail the Maine Coon, the Mau the Persian the rag doll the Scottish Fold the Siamese the Sphinx, the Turkish angora the Turkish van is over 100 to 100. I've heard four of those. Their recent posts for cats and cat actors include reviews before the movie out. Cats and dogs on parade from 1951. Mikey. Mikey from today to Peter's friends from 92, Argo birdie, Russian doll nothing in this world is easy. island in the sun from 2004. Do meal dog from 1921 and 12. Monkeys from 1995. Okay, so

 

38:42

these are okay, so this is just

 

Collin  38:48

an exhaustive list of every movie ever made that has a cat in it?

 

38:54

Yes. Yes.

 

38:55

The tagline is celebrating cats in movies and television.

 

39:00

Wow. Oh my gosh.

 

Collin  39:08

I'm mildly dumbfounded right now.

 

39:12

I see every cat that's

 

39:15

ever been on film.

 

39:17

Yeah. Literally every

 

Collin  39:20

cat exhaustively listed.

 

39:24

I just didn't ever good on

 

Collin  39:26

fit. Wow, it just found a whole nother world that I had no idea even existed. Pan. I think oh my god. This is amazing. They've been going these they've been they've been doing this since 2014. Two.

 

39:43

They've got an index based off. I mean, I would hope so. Well, no.

 

Collin  39:49

Here's how it's broken down animated movies, animated short documentaries and newsreels, movies, music video reels, short subjects special features and Television slash web series.

 

40:02

What? Oh my gosh. Oh, this is over there. Oh, there's so much here. There's so much

 

Collin  40:12

my brain hurts right now. I don't even understand.

 

40:20

Wow.

 

Collin  40:26

They have in your catalog, a cat show from 1953 A newsreel segment from British paths. He shows several of the beautiful cat entries in this show. Among the spotted cats are Himalayan blue Persians. Blue Persian, sorry, a tuxedo kitten being judged and Persian kittens and they've got screen grabs. And they've got

 

40:50

it. I am. Wow. Wow. I am

 

Collin  41:01

flabbergasted by this she it's a lady Linda Kay runs this.

 

41:07

Yeah, that's crazy. Oh, my goodness. Wow.

 

Collin  41:16

In case you're wondering, they will not cover any cats of the big cat movies. So no lions and tigers. Oh, only domestic cats. Yeah. So what have you done with your life?

 

41:37

Nothing so ambitious, is that I can guarantee? Oh, my.

 

41:44

Dang. Okay. Well, I Wow. I

 

Collin  41:49

don't have a follow up to that.

 

41:54

A lot. Wow. But, you know, I,

 

Collin  42:00

I do have to say that those kinds of people like that's one of the great things about technology, and that the internet does provide is that there are those corners of the internet. And those people are able to do that and catalog it and write that out. And it does exist. I think it's really cool that that is able to exist, because at one point in history, would that have been something that any, you know, even even the next door neighbor would have found out about that you were doing, let alone people from across the globe being able to, to discover that and and get access to all that hard work that you're putting into it?

 

42:37

Wow. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's.

 

42:44

But that's just so intense. Like, yeah.

 

Collin  42:50

And, you know, because they talk about it here, when you go into talking about things like, like businesses, or when you're doing a product or when you're doing art, or you're doing things like, Who is your niche audience? Who are you trying to get this to? Somebody who wakes up one morning and goes, has anybody cataloged all of the cats that have ever been seen? Ever?

 

43:11

Ever?

 

Collin  43:13

Ever Ever? Yeah, right? No? Okay, cool. I'll do that. I will do that one. Sorry, who? Who would care? I don't know. But I wanted to. So let's do this. I know I just hate how exhaustive that must be to try to source

 

43:29

all of that material. To do that. Well, yeah.

 

Collin  43:36

Where do you find some of these things? Right,

 

43:38

like, how do you? Yeah, to even get that raw material to know? What on earth is happening? Why

 

Collin  43:48

did she did she have in her possession? The 1953 newsreel from the cat show in London? Or did somebody say hey, Probably not, but like, I have this. But like, how would you even know to give it go? Oh, I have a video of a cat. I need to get this to Leah.

 

44:06

Like how do you? Yeah.

 

Collin  44:10

But it's like, if you have cat videos, send them to send them to Linda at cinema. cat.com

 

44:17

Yes,

 

Collin  44:18

she needs them. She does be cataloged. Yeah, she might already have some of them. But I'll never know until we ask her.

 

44:25

But you know, she's

 

Collin  44:28

digitizing those obviously posting videos, posting screen grabs, and she's watching them to write a description and catalog. What kind of cash right just the amount immense amount of effort in work that goes into that just is totally mind blowing to me. But, but that's what those those labors of love allow you to do. Right like Yeah.

 

44:57

My goodness. That's That's so intense. Like this has been a whirlwind ride.

 

Collin  45:07

Right here. Ladies, Gentlemen, I am so exhausted mentally. Anyway, back to that so, yeah.

 

45:15

Weird.

 

Collin  45:16

belling noise to who even is orders to ask.

 

45:33

Oh my goodness, I can't Oh man.

 

Collin  45:43

So just since we're kind of done with that what I will say when we back to this list that I saw a minute ago of there's these movies on here that I have not seen in forever. And I kind of forgot they existed like

 

45:58

All Dogs Go To Heaven. Oh, right. Yeah, I did not remember. That was a movie. Right? Like Oliver and company. What? What is this? I don't remember. Oh, my. I vaguely have you know, a memory of that. But like,

 

Collin  46:21

I can't really tell you what that movie is.

 

46:27

Right. Well,

 

Collin  46:29

isn't that is it? Well, is all of our company. Is that one? The version of Oliver? That's Oliver Twist is it?

 

46:37

way?

 

Collin  46:38

I think so. But they're in New York. I remember he rides a taxi at some point. There's a pizza weird dog.

 

46:45

I think it's a very loose interpretation. Oh, all right. Yeah. And then that, go ahead. No, because I was gonna say, everyone Oh,

 

Collin  47:06

I mean, that that came out in 1988. And it's kind of in the string of movies from from Disney that are kind of in the ilk of like, fifl goes West. And, and that's that kind of animation style and storytelling, too.

 

47:23

That's true.

 

Collin  47:24

Kind of like the second tier like the not very loved ones that that was that. Also, I'm glad you brought that movie out because I was getting ready to mention

 

47:34

American tale fybel. Because

 

Collin  47:40

all right, so this movie has a very special category for me.

 

47:44

This is movies that are

 

Collin  47:46

good. relatively good, except for one thing. And unfortunately, in that movie, that one thing that I can't stand is fybel.

 

48:01

Worst, man, I can't deal with him. Like, he's really bad. He's

 

Collin  48:08

really annoying. I don't know what they thought they were tambour of His voice is so yeah, piercing and terrible. Yeah, but I can't it hurts me. Like, especially that when he sings that like, when he's singing that song to his sister that. Yeah, that.

 

48:33

So piercing and terrible. And I know, I don't know why. They decided to like, make his entire family have an Eastern European accent. I was wondering.

 

Collin  48:52

Well, because they had to keep that going throughout the entirety of the film. Right. And they couldn't get a child actor to do that exit for maybe they could try. I don't know. Is that what you want? Is that what you wanted the child to try to make? I mean, just because they're playing a child in a TV doesn't mean in a voice doesn't mean they have to be a child spoilers. That's the cinema. Right? Just have a person do it. Oftentimes they just voiced by women, right. It's how it works that what they do,

 

49:29

but like, yeah, I mean, he's really kind of the premise is hilarious.

 

Collin  49:38

The like, the whole like, no cats in America thing is super funny. Like,

 

49:44

right? Yeah.

 

Collin  49:46

I love that part so much. But like fybel literally ruins the movie for me.

 

49:51

Like I can't. It's so painful.

 

Collin  49:57

Again, I haven't watched this movie in a long time. Because,

 

50:01

like it It hurts me like five was terrible fact Oh, I don't know if I've, if it's not as bad as I remember or what? But like I,

 

Collin  50:14

cuz I haven't seen the movie in a very long time. But I do remember the last time I watched it going

 

50:18

on No.

 

Collin  50:23

Because like the story is not bad, but other characters are interesting. But like

 

50:31

I guess

 

Collin  50:32

Guess who produced this

 

50:34

not directed but produced? I don't know, Steven Spielberg Really? Yeah. Wow sounds like something he would do. There's a lot of thought or there's a big period where he was all about like, his movies and like a little stuff like that. I remember that being like a big part of his like, it's not like a binge or anything, but it was like, you know, when we we got to start making producing kids movies, because there's not, quote unquote, good kids movies out there. And so I remember that being like a big stick of some sort stuff and being like, Oh, we got to make good kid movies. But all his movies were insanely ridiculous, or just really weird. And like, boom, kids really? isn't gonna love this. Here's a mouse heading to America. Oh, and he's like, Oh, my God.

 

51:36

His parents are rushing

 

51:39

back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, he

 

Collin  51:44

was really Spielberg was really into this Apparently, the way he shot it. I'm reading all this in real time. This is this is kind of fascinating. But apparently the way he shot it, where he wanted the MOOC. If you watch that movie, in this make sense. The camera is never still it's always moving. It's always changing and panning. And it was so labor intensive to hand draw all this time in order to make one minute of animation. It took the artists a week to do.

 

52:11

Wow, well. That's pretty intense. Sorry, that.

 

Collin  52:21

Five literally hurts me like yeah, here you're complaining about it. It took Yes, 60 artists a week to make 230,000 cells for a minute of animation. And then another week for a single animator to finish three seconds of that animation to make it all put it all together.

 

52:41

Aim and hear you complain about his voice. It hurts me. Yeah, lag is why it's so shrill.

 

Collin  52:54

I know he's supposed to be a very small mouse. So I understand the choice. But I think they went too far. too far. Like Yes. What would you expect a small mouse to sound like? Okay, I get it, but a small Eastern European mouse. Dad is like the heaviest Eastern European accent ever right. Now contrast this with a movie that came out before that the Great Mouse Detective, and the sheer movie came out after

 

53:25

that, didn't it? Then we had to come out after 1986 because americatel is definitely 96 That's what it says here. No, it's 91 the American tale is

 

Collin  53:39

Yeah, American tale fievel goes West and 1991 great mass detective was it No, no,

 

53:43

no, no, not five goes West. That's the sequel. Oh,

 

Collin  53:47

just think about that. You're just talking about the American tale. Oh, no, no, I'm talking about American tale. Okay, yeah, yeah.

 

53:54

Yeah, don't don't come up with that. Anyway, any Yes.

 

Collin  54:00

Yes. The Great Mouse Detective far by far superior mouse movie, right? Yeah, when it comes to mouse movies

 

54:13

it's the top of these categories. Mass name Name

 

54:19

three other mouse movies. Okay,

 

Collin  54:21

well you've got the don't

 

54:22

involve the words mid little Stewart level. Okay, now

 

Collin  54:30

now's what was the one I was gonna think of. Okay, where the mouse is the main character would you say mouse on his? Yes, he's

 

54:37

the whole Okay, maybe want to put

 

54:45

my mouse on? Little

 

54:47

dirty little

 

Collin  54:48

secret right mouse detective. Boom. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay, Okay, there we go. Okay, Rescue Rangers done. Definitely greater than Masada. I'm just gonna say that.

 

55:02

Well, yeah. I

 

Collin  55:04

mean, as far as as far as, like a movie about mice, I would say the Rescue Rangers is definitely better because they're like actual characters who talk? Right. In this list. Moussa doesn't really fit. This is true. I would say in case you're wondering cinema mice.com is not taken and so you could get out. Yeah, can we come next? So here's the real question. Here is the real crux of this issue out of those mice movies.

 

55:40

We need to rank them, man.

 

Collin  55:43

To definitely reel it in. Oh, it's cinema mice.com is available for $13 a year. I think this is totally

 

55:54

All right. Well,

 

55:56

watch out guys. Look for our new side project. Kung Fu. Okay. Ranking ranking the movies what are our options again? It's

 

56:03

It's

 

Collin  56:05

okay, you said Grandmaster active American tale. I guess American tale five it goes West.

 

56:14

We won't do two follow ups.

 

Collin  56:16

Okay, well, okay, so no follow up. Alright, that's important secrets of nim

 

56:22

Rescue Rangers and Stuart Little. Okay, well, I okay. Well, the rescuers sorry.

 

Collin  56:30

Oh, yeah. Rescuers restaurant is different. Also great. I mean, there are mics in that one. But that's a TV show. I guess technically, because monterey jack and gadget are both mice. But Chippendale are chipmunks as we know, this will fly in that I love that cartoon so much. Anyway, sorry, my movies.

 

56:51

Oh, well. The nothing Ratatouille but that's fair. That's fair. He's right.

 

Collin  57:00

We got to get this right. That's true. Let's watch this. We don't get we can add him later. So yes, out of these ones, how many we only get four pinocchios on this. So

 

57:16

A Tale of despereaux. Oh, that's true.

 

Collin  57:22

Now for professional I have not seen that movie so I can

 

57:25

die. But is it? Only movies we've seen? I don't know what that one is? Yes.

 

Collin  57:32

We'll have to add that to be continued, apparently. So out of ranking, we'll just stick with these five. Ranking these five the first five most movies we could think of not counting the sequels, of which Rescuers Down Under clearly best. Write the sequel? I'm talking about all the sequels of like Stewart little two and American 2005 was West. And

 

58:05

there's a secret of name too, right? Yes, there is. Okay. Yes. Of all the sequels. Clearly,

 

Collin  58:10

it is it is done under its rats of nim at that point, right, isn't it?

 

58:14

I don't remember. Okay. So. Oh,

 

Collin  58:20

that's the whole trilogy. Okay. Anyway. Yes, we will look at the expanded universes now. So, so many episodes ahead of us. It's fine. It's fine. That we're curating an exhaustive list of rambling, silly podcasts for the internet.

 

58:43

You're welcome. Yes. We love you, listeners.

 

Collin  58:46

We're so glad you're here. Let us know your favorite mice movie, by the way. So what are you thinking on? I am going to go on a limb and from

 

58:59

these Sure.

 

Collin  59:01

What should we start at five or go up to one or started with one go down? I think we should start at five.

 

59:06

What is the fifth?

 

59:10

The fifth one for me is going to be Stuart Little.

 

59:16

Okay. I was kind of thinking that to him. And thought I would also say Stuart Little as well. Because like not really memorable brain. Like I remember the big whole selling point of it that drive like a cool car. And that was like the toy of the year. And I'm just like, Oh, I was never impressed with it. isn't like a cat not to me. Place my wall. I don't know.

 

Collin  59:53

I don't. How do you remember that?

 

59:58

I remember his voice. I'm a rude that being a big thing but do you think it is? Nathan Lane? Nathan

 

Collin  1:00:12

yeah Nathan Lane is voice of the cat snowball very good

 

1:00:14

day

 

Collin  1:00:16

right there oh it's down okay okay so number five Stuart Little okay now I feel it's about to get harder I

 

1:00:26

would put a hold on once again so we left

 

Collin  1:00:36

we have secret of nim

 

1:00:40

Great Mouse Detective American tale and the rescuers he'll hear little American tale rescuers was the other one. Fun? no

 

Collin  1:01:01

secrets of Nam great math detective American tale and

 

1:01:05

the rescuers. Yes, it's gonna get really hard. Sorry. Yeah, I'm down. I'm thinking like, this is hard because

 

Collin  1:01:30

like, I'm sort of torn between because I like a lot of American tale except for five and it really hurts the movie in my eyes. Right? So I feel like I can't place it too much higher.

 

1:01:49

And I really like

 

Collin  1:01:51

even though I think The Rescuers Down Under is a better movie. I still really like the rescuers. Don't thought

 

1:02:00

I need I can I vote to make an amendment to the list? What? Okay, now here? Yeah. The bottom four. Never seen that once upon a forest. On the bottom for one upon a I've ever seen this full movie.

 

Collin  1:02:23

No, I have no idea what this is. Alright, carry on. Okay, well, I have to put that we'll have to put that one on the list with Tales of deskpro and apparently they're making a red wall miniseries so obviously well, that and

 

1:02:40

they haven't made it yet. So. Oh, I

 

Collin  1:02:47

have so this one I have seen once upon a forest. Toxic spill, somebody gets sick and the kids the the mom or dad is sick and the kids have to go and find the antidote to heal it. Okay, I haven't seen that one. I was gonna say that right? That movie. I was gonna say going back to Stuart Little if I wanted to watch something about a small person living in a big world and would watch like the borrower's. Right or because that is so much more engaged tells that story better. Yeah, that's it does. Anyway. So number four, you were about to drop them.

 

1:03:25

Yeah, number four, I'm struggling. I think I'm gonna drop.

 

Collin  1:03:33

I think American tail goes at number four. For me. Even though it's a good movie and tells a good story. I like a lot of the other characters I think is dragged down by five or a little bit. And it doesn't make it as good of a story. Like if I'm thinking about like, the characters like fibl or like Bernard and Bianca, come on, obviously, but they're better. So I'm gonna put Ivo American Tail number four.

 

1:03:59

Yeah,

 

Collin  1:04:00

it was easy. For me, that's number four. Just because of the heavy weights that we have coming up, vying through the you know that these are being stacked against so it as much as I again, I do like the story of American tale and, and everything there.

 

1:04:21

I think just because of parents like there are no, no watts to the medica. Right, like there's a lot to collect that we waste. A lot of great moments,

 

Collin  1:04:37

but because for me because of what it's stacked against. I

 

1:04:40

got to do number four to

 

1:04:42

one just the characters are stronger though. I think.

 

1:04:45

Yeah. Okay. Aaron. Aaron. thoughts, though. Yes, I can't I can say Yeah. Like I'd be okay with American sales. For me in all honesty, I don't I never really get that connection was secret for them. That was a movie that it kind of took me like a little bit while longer to actually wrap my head around. When I was younger they were like I could not fathom it. I kind of more closely connected with because of them to just because of the it was felt more. No pun intended. I'm more cartoony here and it was profound. But it it didn't have like

 

Collin  1:05:37

that it wasn't as heavy. You're right. Not the first secret name is a very heavy movie. Because I

 

1:05:43

thought why the secrets on them theory came out like not at the same time, but kind of got into that same mix of like oh, Watership Down. Movie. Yeah. It's similar. Like, yeah, like it not as dark, but it kind of felt fell into that extremely dark genre. It's

 

Collin  1:06:08

quite dark, really sometimes animated.

 

1:06:10

Me. And so yeah, speaking if you want to like a super Uber like, oh, there's no way this could be like a sad movie. And like oh, steak, it's really depressing. Watership Down.

 

Aaron  1:06:24

So that to me, I didn't ever truly got that connection with secrets in them. Because I remember watching watching it when I was like, little little, like a colon. like okay, well, I thought this will be like join happy Why is it like really dark? Like I don't? And so because of them to like, there's music in this like it's like actual like there's some comedy into it like that's

 

Collin  1:06:50

not physically brighter. Like

 

1:06:55

you need to physically turn your your TV up. So for me number four would be secrets on them. But I I can you know, concede that American tale although American tale bongos West was another one that I connected more to because it was more vibrant, more colorful, Detroit, five was voices and annoying,

 

1:07:21

and I want either

 

1:07:25

the person, you know, trying to put like, contacts into the outer world, like, Oh, you know, again, all these mice coming into the New World, like what's going on? That was also kind of another one that was like, a little bit darker than, like, what it should have been, but I didn't have a good connection with that one either. is, you know, I was like, Oh, this as a saloon for Angela. Like, you're gonna really need that true. Alright,

 

Collin  1:07:59

so Aaron goes, he could sit them

 

1:08:01

at four. Alright, so next up, number three. I feel like

 

Collin  1:08:20

I think I'm going to put secrets and limit three.

 

1:08:25

Kind of just based on like,

 

Collin  1:08:30

my ranking system is kind of going in the order of which movies do I want to like in the order that I want to watch them? Sure. Right. And I think kind of what Aaron was saying, like, I have similar thoughts about secrets in him like it's a really good movie. Like, do I really ever go? Oh, man, I want to watch secrets of nim right now.

 

1:08:55

No, not really.

 

1:08:59

So I think that hurts it a little bit for me.

 

1:09:01

I like I appreciate it. But I don't love it. You know what I mean? Yeah, so

 

Collin  1:09:11

I know there's a lot like the animation movies gorgeous. The story is actually pretty interesting. The characters are really like,

 

1:09:19

well defined. But I just for some reason. It does not

 

Collin  1:09:26

really hit me. Now again, I am basing this on the last time I saw secrets of nim. I must have been like 12 years old. No, it's been a long time. A lot of this is like the feeling that I remember having. Right so I fully acknowledge that if I were to watch secrets of nim tomorrow, I might change my order. Right. So this is the as of right now, until I see it again, which may or may not happen. Let's be honest. I think I put secrets of nim

 

1:10:05

at three. Yeah. Yeah, so this is, this is really tough.

 

Collin  1:10:15

I am basing mine. Yes off of rewatch ability. But also, again, I'm just looking at the list of other ones that are coming up

 

1:10:27

and seek I

 

Collin  1:10:32

I hate to be agreeing with you so much here, Brandon. But secrets of nim is just such a weird movie to be put in with the same with these other four. right because of its, it is just genuinely a dark, dark movie. Yeah,

 

1:10:48

it's very heavy. It is very heavy.

 

Collin  1:10:50

It is it is not something that's like, Oh, I want to sit down I want to watch this. It's like, you really just have to take it in. And, and, and, and given I think my relationship with the other movies that we have coming up.

 

1:11:07

It is no,

 

Collin  1:11:08

it is something that I hold I like I really respect and I'm very thankful that it's there. And I'm probably gonna go find a way to watch it after we're done with this because it's been forever but

 

1:11:18

but like, I think the

 

Collin  1:11:21

you know, so it's definitely a middle attack for me. And so I'm, I'm, I'm happy with it being at three as well. If we have the same two and one I'm really going to be angry. I mean, we probably are going to let's be real but Aaron, what do you think for number three?

 

1:11:38

You guys think you're telling them for your three? Yeah. Go.

 

Collin  1:11:48

Left, you currently have the rescuers, the great master, great. Matthew and 500 West. No, just americantale

 

1:11:55

sorry. See? Those so this one I for number three would be would be my American tale because Donald said before I never really connected with it. But at the same time it's weirdly up there. Like with like a cult classic by any means. But it's up there like what do you whenever you talk about, Oh, you know what kind of animated movies was kind of like the first kick into you know, Disney stuff. And a lot of people talk about American like, America because it was it was Disneyland or is it Don Bluth?

 

Collin  1:12:48

Or was that Don Bluth when he worked at Disney?

 

1:12:51

Oh,

 

Collin  1:12:52

it is blue. That for sure. animation style screams blue?

 

1:12:58

Yeah, it is Bluth.

 

Collin  1:12:59

Was it independent? Or was he still at Disney at that time?

 

1:13:08

Cuz I don't think that's a Disney movie. Either, or. Yeah, I know. Yeah,

 

Collin  1:13:17

it's just on Blu. Okay, it's a Don Bluth film.

 

1:13:20

That's Yeah. I still think it's to me anyways, it is. Classic enough to where when we talk about like, films that were kind of like, not like really trend study. But it was very

 

1:13:40

popular at the time, though.

 

1:13:42

Right? Yeah. And so like it like it came out and then even afterwards, it's still it even developed kind of like its own little cult following.

 

Collin  1:13:50

Yeah. A lot of Donald's movies are like that just kind of in general.

 

1:13:54

Right. Like, yeah,

 

Collin  1:13:55

he is enemy sighs very appreciate. I mean, he's he did nim also. Right. And I mean, he's already so like, Land Before Time. One Yeah, I was gonna bring Yeah, 137 five. Anyway, but he is a very like, cool. I figured because his he's very respected for his like, animation style, his artwork, his you know, his kind of like eye for movie. So here it is kind of You're right, that I think cult is kind of a thing, especially now. Because a lot of movies from that time that were popular. A lot of them aren't. People don't care about them anymore. But I think American tale it still holds up is it's still a good movie. Right? Like, five aside, it's a good unwatchable movie. So I totally understand where you're coming from with the I think cult is kind of a cult classic is kind of

 

1:14:55

Yeah. Okay.

 

Collin  1:15:00

So just a recap. So far at number five we all agreed on Stuart Little number four, Brandon and I had American tale Aaron had secrets of nim then we reverse those with number three with Brandon is saying secrets, finance. And Aaron saying America tale we're on to number two.

 

1:15:17

That's true where I think, I don't know.

 

Collin  1:15:20

We'll see cons. Maxime. I agree with me again. I'm number two. I Wow, that just means we have good taste in my smoothies. That's right. That means that we're secretly really good at ranking my movies. Yeah. Okay, we found our niche. Look at that. We're gonna have to somehow figure out how to expand this movie to top 10 if we add in the sequels, we'll already be at like eight so we'll just need to add like one more. right we'll have to watch despereaux and see

 

1:15:55

Oh, man.

 

Collin  1:15:58

Let's just be very real. There's a lot that's gonna have to happen to my life to go down that pathway. So yeah, like if there was going to be any more snow days this year. It literally just happened in fact, well, he's doing now so I think we may yet get the top 10 list listeners. You're welcome for that. Cinema mice.com coming? Yes.

 

1:16:23

Anyway. I this this one's hard. For me.

 

Collin  1:16:38

These last ones have actually been kind of cool, but this one's really hard because these last two movies I love them very much. Like the these are also not really held up as pillars of Disney cinema. No, right but like the rescuers, and the Great Mouse Detective arc. I think they're vid tastic and underrated movies. Like I think they're great. Oh, I love without a doubt. Oh.

 

1:17:05

Again,

 

Collin  1:17:06

I really like Rescuers Down Under. But that's not on this list. Sir. Not appearing in this picture. So this one this this one's hard. Because

 

1:17:24

like

 

Collin  1:17:30

these both for me have very, like, full casts of like, interesting characters.

 

1:17:37

Right.

 

Collin  1:17:38

And like lots of cool stuff happening. I think I'm gonna put rescuers at number two.

 

1:17:48

Because this was it's real close though. I

 

Collin  1:17:54

love Bernardo Bianca. I think they are kufri like they're just perfect, right? Yeah, Baba. Eva. Gabor.

 

1:18:05

Eva. Gabor. Eva. Gabor. Come on, man.

 

1:18:10

Let's just be real

 

Collin  1:18:12

voice a mouse.

 

1:18:15

Yeah. And Bob Newhart? No, come on. It's so good. It fit him so well. It fit him so well. And I think that go ahead. No, no. Yeah, right. You go.

 

Collin  1:18:27

I like I like the other casts

 

1:18:30

like the the albatross. Right.

 

Collin  1:18:34

Orval? Right in this one. Yeah. It's funny that the cast of like swamp mice that they meet in the swamp when they go down there are hilarious, right? They're very interesting band of people. The fact that they in this universe, there is a rescue society composed entirely of mice, who for some reason, first of all, Disney. Why does this series not have spin offs? What are the rest of these mice doing? Okay, there's like hundreds of mice in this room. The Rescue Aid Society is gigantic. This is the expanded universe we really want. Okay. Okay, about Marvel, I want to know about the Rescue Aid Society. That's what I want to know about. All right, that's

 

1:19:21

right.

 

Collin  1:19:25

So I think, but I think on the fact that I definitely prefer the sequel again, it's kind

 

1:19:32

of weirdly

 

Collin  1:19:35

the trend I'm noticing on this list is the first movies and that are different from the sequels in that the first movies are very, like, dark. Like, again, literally dark. In this case, like very dark color palette.

 

1:19:50

Yeah, swamp, right. But like,

 

Collin  1:19:52

it's very dark. It's very, it's very serious, right? The bad guys have kidnapped the girl To try to hunt for pirate treasure, right they kidnapping girls from orphanages. Oh gee to try to hunt for treasure. It's very dark. And why did they need because she was small and she could get through the hole right?

 

1:20:12

Yeah, she was small enough to get Yeah, yeah.

 

Collin  1:20:16

Yeah and they were willing to kill her to get the treasure so this is all very it's very dark where's the sequel isn't takes place in Australia

 

1:20:24

it's like super bright colors

 

Collin  1:20:26

right like the golden eagle is literally golden right it's crazy stuff stuff like that economy here is very dark joins original SQL and apparently every single instance

 

1:20:41

this list

 

Collin  1:20:44

but i think i think i put viewers there. It really close though because I really like

 

1:20:51

the rescuers though and I took on

 

1:20:58

Yeah, no, I

 

1:20:59

yeah. We've literally never

 

Collin  1:21:02

agreed on anything as much listeners. This is really weird. This is insane. I don't know what's happening here. What's what, it's Venus in retrograde or something?

 

1:21:10

I don't know what's going on. I mean, always Yes. But that's literally backwards. But

 

1:21:16

I

 

Collin  1:21:18

it is very interesting. Yeah, I have to say that as far as like a fully flat like, what what else can you say about the rescuers in that?

 

1:21:27

All that,

 

Collin  1:21:28

you know what what you've said already?

 

1:21:30

How to me,

 

Collin  1:21:32

you know, it is very interesting how they took a kid's movie and and there's a very real part of this where it is very touching. What happens in this movie. And and now thinking back on some of this parts of what's happening like when Penny is saying that she doesn't want to do something, but because she's scared and yet. I forget her name that but the evil lady is like forcing her to do it. And Penny's doing it against her will like it. Yeah. Like, it's really like, Oh my gosh, this makes me feel uncomfortable. And I don't like this. And, and so it's hard. It's it's hard. Right? It's a good word. And then to come out of that. And I think as far as like, good, like, the ending to this one is just wonderful with her getting adopted and she's got the cat and you know, it's it's just really sweet. Like, I really like the rescuers for that aspect. And so I've got to put it at number two as well.

 

1:22:33

Nice Aaron. Aaron trifecta. Yeah. Yeah. Because as amazing as that is, I have I can quote, the second one much more of rescue Rescue Rangers down under is just like, what did you say to me? Yeah, I also have this

 

Collin  1:23:18

problem of like, Susan has never seen either of those movies, either. And I say things like that. And she's like, What are you talking about? I'm like, Alright, we have to watch these at some point. Because you need to know, you know what I say all the time from that.

 

1:23:31

So

 

1:23:35

why do I Why is my Why?

 

Collin  1:23:40

And I think because that scene, right? Where they where they get the P to make the soup is just like this, like wonderful scene of like, if like, it's going and there's got the it just I just didn't wait and they like, go over receive. I was right. Like, it's the whole thing.

 

1:23:58

Like, how does anybody ever eat on time in the system? Like they're just waiting for a piece to fall off?

 

1:24:06

Yeah.

 

Aaron  1:24:08

No. movie to me. That was a that was one of the very first like, few that I actually will. I was able to watch like, the first movie, like legitimately first and then transition to the second one. But yeah, this is the second one's not on the list. It's gotta be Yeah, it's gotta be that one for me. And I

 

Collin  1:24:36

well, that leaves us with unanimous number one. That glory is Great Mouse Detective,

 

1:24:43

right. You're right, the Sherlock

 

Collin  1:24:48

Holmes mouse story. It's so good. Right, like,

 

1:24:55

again, I think part of it a lot of it's like setting

 

Collin  1:24:58

is like excellent. Like the Victorian London thing is that the portrayal of like, Sherlock Holmes in the house is really funny. But the whole story is also it's still, it's still that touching story of like that little girl has lost her. Her dad's been kidnapped. She's all alone. She needs somebody to help her. And like the Watson character, whose name's not Watson, was named the Watson stand in characters like the sympathetic one trying to help her out. Oh, yes, we'll get you help. And you know, then you have basil. Who's the Sherlock right? He's kind of crazy, like Sherlock Holmes case. He's a good, crazy person. And they agreed to help him and there's lots of memorable moments with the, you know, like Toby, the dog, right? And tried to figure out what happened her dad and did the whole, like, the whole side plot with the villain and the plot to assassinate the queen. Right? And the fact that the villain is Vincent Price.

 

1:26:00

Alright, Yo,

 

1:26:01

rhadigan is Vincent.

 

1:26:04

Vincent Price. It's so perfect. It it, you know, it's

 

Collin  1:26:12

not like the great castings in history, right. Like that was just, it's beautiful. And again, what they have Vincent Price do, like on the voice of rhadigan. And the things he's saying but again, like,

 

1:26:28

again, you talk about

 

Collin  1:26:30

acting through a voice and how it was perfect for rhadigan who was the character like extremely over the top and like was went from I love the the transformation over him. I like it shows his true colors of like he's

 

1:26:45

set up as this.

 

Collin  1:26:46

prim and proper, and in very straight leg. It's gentlemen. Right, gentlemen? And then it like devolves quickly, and then like, Oh, no, he's actually insane. And like, right, and everything that goes on with that, like that. Yeah, Professor Ratigan

 

1:26:59

and oh, and his cat, right with his mouse. thing was Felicia, Felicia. There we go. Yeah, weirdly,

 

Collin  1:27:16

great message. Hector was also 9086. This is just like, the secret. best year for animated movies. I think yeah, that mid to late. 80s is obviously very foundation

 

1:27:29

for that. Yeah.

 

Collin  1:27:32

under appreciated era of animated films. nails. Yeah, I think yeah, it's so good. The plot is like, it's just like goofy enough.

 

1:27:43

Like,

 

Collin  1:27:44

try to build a mechanical queen.

 

1:27:48

For everybody,

 

Collin  1:27:48

like, kill the real one. But then you juxtapose that with, like, the sympathetic like, this little girl's lost her dad, and she just wants help find him back because he's been kidnapped by rhadigan.

 

1:28:02

Right.

 

Collin  1:28:03

Does that like, Yeah, but I like how, again,

 

1:28:06

both you got both of those. Those?

 

Collin  1:28:08

You tell you it's a side plot, but it's really not. They're two separate plots that are evolving at the same pace? Because they're because they're connected together. Right?

 

1:28:17

Yeah.

 

Collin  1:28:18

The cool part about it, right? That's the cool part is that as you figure out like, oh, the reason her dad is missing is because of this plot. And they're just chugging along head, you know, as fast as they can. And they Yeah, culminate with the

 

1:28:33

with the fight scene and yeah, and

 

Collin  1:28:36

yeah, and the kind of like the kind of kind of weird creepy it's not really explosion but the destruction of the the robot Queen with like, the oil in the eyes and you know, kind of going crazy.

 

1:28:52

Yeah, that's, that's

 

Collin  1:28:56

is a really fun movie to watch. And again, my list kind of goes in the order that I want to watch these. Right, whereas like, the fifth one is kind of like, man, I don't really care where the like the top like two I'm like, Yeah, I watched him right now. Like, let's go. And your thoughts on the Great Mouse Detective.

 

1:29:15

Well, that was also that. What year did that come out again? At six? It did not know Yeah,

 

Collin  1:29:23

I thought it was later than that. But

 

1:29:24

that wasn't that like when I watched it.

 

Collin  1:29:30

When I definitely didn't watch NCAA six. I

 

1:29:32

watched it. When I was old enough. Like who watches that was actually weirdly enough kind of Earth. I don't want to use the term first like movie to kind of like give me like the heebie jeebies because like that that scene at the end where he kind of like the you know, the fight scene on the bell tower, where he's just kind of all like, porn of them. Yeah. Yeah, so rad again, was

 

Collin  1:30:00

You know doing his like devolved into full blown insane, right like trying to

 

1:30:04

murder. Um, and then digit. His little bat companion guy is oh my gosh, I

 

Collin  1:30:15

forgot about that, but that

 

1:30:18

was the pig leg up in the door thing every once in a while, like, it's one of those songs or like, you know whenever you get like a song stuck in your head Ratigan like every time I see like a really like big chandelier of some sort I always think of like the people like swinging off it. Yeah, yeah. So that that theme plays in my head, rent free a lot. So it's just, I don't know what it is about this movie.

 

Aaron  1:31:03

It was, I don't know if it was also kind of like the first movie that I was like, I watched with, like, you guys on like, a consistent level of Oh, yeah. You know, you know, watching it, like watching this movie, some random movie with with my brothers was also kind of like a neat little thing for me. I have it. I don't know, I don't know what it is. It's just one of those ones where I was just like, moving on. I like even now like, I'm 30 years old. If that if that movies on, like, you know, playing on TV. I'm going to watch it like, Oh, absolutely.

 

1:31:44

And it's on furniture. It's on Disney bless now. And so that's what I have for the weekend so long ago.

 

Collin  1:31:52

But fun fact about I don't know if you remember. I think it's at the

 

1:31:57

end,

 

Collin  1:31:58

where they are coming in on where Basil's living. And it shows that the actual quote unquote Sherlock is living above him. Right. They live on the same street.

 

1:32:08

Yeah, right. That voice

 

Collin  1:32:12

is the voice they reused a voice from a 1966 movie of Sherlock Holmes by Basil Rathbone. And so Basil Rathbone was an hour really. So yeah, Basil Rathbone played Sherlock Holmes in 1966. They reused his voice to play the Sherlock Holmes in the movie, The Great Mouse Detective. And the mouse's name is basil.

 

1:32:35

I love that. Yeah, that's great. Man, I just put

 

Collin  1:32:40

two and two together here. I'm reading through the voice the voice casting because you know my price a lot. I get down and there's a credit for this guy. And I'm like, What is? Oh, his

 

1:32:50

name is? Okay, as Baker Street. Yes, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Anyway. No.

 

Collin  1:33:03

That's perfect. That's perfect.

 

1:33:05

I know, that movies. Yeah. Grape is wonderful movie.

 

Collin  1:33:11

They go. There's our top five. Mouse movie list. So far.

 

1:33:15

The ranking

 

1:33:16

you didn't know. You needed ranking? You didn't know.

 

1:33:20

Nor welcome.

 

Collin  1:33:21

Neither did we until 38 minutes ago.

 

1:33:32

There we go. At

 

Collin  1:33:32

some point in the future. Expect the top 10 list. We'll have to figure out some more movies to add. That will rank the top 10 most movies adding it to the topic list. There we go. Great, good. Well, I feel like we've helped a lot of people tonight. I think we can do we can rest our heads knowing that the world is a better place.

 

1:34:00

I think so tell us right in leave comments somewhere your favorite mouse movie and so we need to watch it now. We'll add it to the list.

 

1:34:11

And we'll rank it amongst the current top five and see where we go. I like her very much. Okay.

 

1:34:18

You guys enjoy the rest of your evening. You

 

1:34:22

guys. Love you guys.