time passes
Why are we getting snow in April? Yeah, we don’t know either. We have an official challenge for this episode. Japanese and US animated films are so dominant in the market that there HAS to be others out there. So, we try and surface them. Turns out, we all forgot about the French love for animated movies. Oops. Major spoilers for each of the films we watched. We share our insights into the creativity of the animated medium for story telling and immersing the viewer in the created world.
SNOWWWW
Slushy mess
Awkward dog drop-in
Challenge! Watch animated movies not from Japan...or US.
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Collin
Brandon
Aaron
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SPEAKERS
Collin, Aaron, Brandon
Collin 00:05
Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon, Collin and Aaron.
00:13
On this week's show
00:14
time passes.
Aaron 00:33
Little bit of everything work as you know significantly calm down just short week for me thankfully because we'll be up in Missouri Thursday ish night for this tivities Yeah, so excited and get ready for that so you know you really really got all I got a plan that is okay. Nothing too. Too spectacular just yet. Can't can ruin all of the excitement or fun sure
Collin 01:21
we're still waiting on Brandon to get on.
Aaron 01:24
With us he doing? What's uh, what has been life life like for you up there?
Collin 01:35
We're getting ready for two inches of snow.
Aaron 01:39
Yeah, what back it was nice and sunny and like in the 60s today, and then we were like, Oh, it's supposed to snow on Tuesday. I'm like, Why? Why is that a thing?
01:53
I know I don't like it. I don't know. I don't know why.
Aaron 02:02
Like, I like this now but I don't like it that much.
02:11
Hold on,
02:12
hold on.
Aaron 02:23
You may need to pause well not pause but I may need to restart So Brian, can you get on?
Collin 02:32
No. Brandon's just on
Aaron 02:34
Yay.
02:35
Slow it's fine. Dory. Now I may be a dog whining downstairs.
02:47
or child or both.
Collin 02:53
No children down.
02:55
I'm up though. There may be maybe a middle in the middle of this. I
03:06
may need to
Collin 03:08
relocate but for the time being we should be fine. All right. The timeout.
03:12
take a timeout.
Brandon 03:17
How's it going? Other than whining dogs?
Collin 03:19
Ah, well, we were just talking about how it's going to snow tomorrow.
Brandon 03:23
That's exciting. All right. You ready for more snow angels and
03:28
brutally cold weather in
03:31
April for some reason like it's just the a wet snowed. Ooh, so
03:41
there's gonna be growth be good. snowball fight. Go. There. We'll see. Be nasty.
Collin 03:52
But hopefully the Reds we find it was so hard to name. Oh, yeah. I can't imagine how anything's gonna stick. It's gonna be
03:59
unpleasant. Yeah, well, if
04:02
it's like slushy, you know how it can just be like Bly what like stick but it'll just be like, a slushy mess.
04:09
That's not helpful.
04:13
Well, even though it won't be like super slick, it'll just be slushy and kind of not great. So
04:19
hopefully we avoid some of that. But yeah, other than
04:28
taking your snow boots back out of the closet 10 has a bit well, Ah, nice tea.
04:39
My goodness.
Collin 04:41
We Mmm hmm. What did I do? what's what's been going on? Oh, same. I did. I did a drop in check or a lady and
04:57
where she was like, Oh,
Collin 05:01
I need to check on our dog. You're like, great.
05:05
That's what I do.
Collin 05:06
There are three of them. And the last time we checked on there, there was two and we kept on waiting for more information on the third one and we just like literally never got it and then it was time to drop. Just the adorable little Beagle that they added. And so it was kind of weird because like, I was trying to send the update and be like, and Coco is really great. And I okay is really fun and other third dog.
05:32
She was like, Oh, I'm so sorry.
Collin 05:34
His name is Milo. And he's, we caught him because we missed laying and I was like, Oh, yeah, no, okay. It was kind of weird during that whole process and then never like moving get to the point where it's kind of awkward to ask who the third last year, right, you're already there. Like, hey, so you can tell me about this dog or what? Like?
05:58
Yeah.
06:01
And then he was like, Hey, have you seen Milo and Otis being from respond with I'm sorry. What? No, that's okay. We don't know either. tell you about the video game. make this more awkward.
Aaron 06:26
Yes. Oh, great stuff. Aaron, we even have you down there. Well, work has significantly gotten better. I'm not on call anymore. It's not as chaotic way but it's but it's also Monday, so that doesn't really mean much.
06:52
So
Aaron 06:55
Jesus weekend Oh my gosh. I don't I can't remember what we did this weekend. Um, I don't think it was anything like too extravagant or too crazy. But it was, you know, just kind of hung out. I'm getting ready for this weekend's this coming weekend festivities. The cherry.
07:15
Cherry Blossom Festival time. Is it time for your Instagram Live debut is
07:21
not like that. Yeah,
Collin 07:23
I'm ready for it.
Aaron 07:24
I got I got my second COVID shot this week. Which I'm not too thrilled about because the first one like really knocked me on my keister. So I really, I don't Yeah, I was I was down account for a good like day. With which some people are like, Oh, this means you already have it like and you don't care, then. And then plus, that plus, allergies starting to kick in? No, that's just can't. My allergies have been terrible. Like I had a meeting and I was just I had myself on mute. And every time they talk, it'd be like a quick, quick blurb about a mute myself. And then after meeting people who weren't muting myself, I don't hear you sneeze. Like,
08:18
what would have happened? Was 87,000 times is great.
Aaron 08:22
So you get one of the other people. No, that's fair.
08:31
Tell me I'm saying to see how you go. Cuz Yeah, mine was fine. And then Susan's was like, Blam. Bly, her second one got her for a while. So
Aaron 08:42
hopefully, me again. Yeah, I'm not like I'm, I'm excited to finally get it. But at the end of the day, I'm also not like, super happy. Oh my god, you know, this will be good for me evolve, blah, blah, blah. So well, we'll just see what happens.
09:00
Well, and sometimes, like some people, like the first one gets them and then the second one, they're like, Okay, I'm good now. Like,
Aaron 09:08
and that's, that's what Shelby told me. It's like well, you know, he had this one like, the next one should be much easier. Like I don't want to risk it
Collin 09:19
will be interesting.
Aaron 09:21
updates to come. I'm pretty I'm pretty excited just to get it over with true
09:33
for real clinic, or do you get to go through a super sweet drive thru shot clinic? Like,
Aaron 09:38
she'll be good through the drive through a clinic or drive for one hour clinic. So with us, we could either we could pick our location, and I didn't know after the fact that we could have been paid for the mileage because all of my co workers went
09:53
for this one.
Aaron 09:55
I was like, well, that's stupid. Why are you doing that? And they're like, no like, we get by Like we get mileage. Oh, I didn't know, what the heck, what did you do? And so they, they all went down there. And so I should have been there. But they a lot of them went down there and got all their stuff taken care of. And so I settled for the closer one. But it's in a weird office that I've like never been to where they're like, oh, everyone's been here and like, No, I haven't. Not everyone. And so of course, I get there and the little security lady is like, how can we don't know you're going to like me and just just want to get by us? Yeah, you know. So it's been it's been an ordeal like, every time I've gone like, I just want my job. I'm sorry to be such a pain. I don't mean to. Yeah, that's kind of been it's been put under chaos the entire time. of of going down there. And then like, plus I've never been people like really cranky with me like walking out of your bags. I knew I need to add I was like, she was such a burden. Yeah, I mean to be it's fine. Yeah. That's
11:26
office in a secret out of the way spot no one will have.
Aaron 11:29
So yeah, that's been the the crux of my injuring so far this week. I'm thrilled to Yeah, like I said, just to get it done and out of the way and now won't have to worry about it anymore. And then some people like oh, well, we need to get the follow up shot in a way. Yes, too much. We're gonna want to do that.
11:51
Then we'll see how it goes from there. But
Aaron 11:53
yeah, well, we'll see. Well, let's do this one first, and then we'll go from there. But yeah, I was trying to just get it done. No big deal. Yes,
12:05
I felt the same way. It's kind of like, Okay, this step is accomplished. So now I feel like better about things in general.
Aaron 12:13
So you know, people were like, Oh, yeah, if you had to get the first shot and that got to you know, unless then you already have it. I've heard that. So yeah. Yeah, so did you know again, different names Give me my shot. Let me go home. We did a video game. Yes,
12:40
that's all well then go to a cherry blossom festival. Cherry blossoms for some reason. in Marshfield. Yeah, my weekend wasn't very exciting either. It was finally like Well, after all the adventure of last weekend and the week this weekend was just like
13:04
ah
13:07
just sit here
13:08
a whole lot only Yes,
13:13
I did. However, well we can save the bulk of this particular topic for another day. Cuz you know, it's this podcast favorite topic one of them. But I did definitely fall down the rabbit hole, I guess. Or a hobbit hole of Lord of the Rings lore videos on YouTube.
13:35
Fascinating. So good.
Collin 13:37
I don't know. Did you watch the cGb CGP Grey one
13:45
No, I think I missed that one.
13:49
I've been watching like so many but there was not see him because I've seen some of his stuff before about other topics. It is I have to look it up because I think I follow his channel maybe not actively for for for about a year. Yeah, I haven't really been watching his keeping up with this stuff. But I watch a bunch of other stuff. There's a lot more than I thought. And so I watched like a billion and she's like, Oh, that's really interesting. Yeah, why is that? So I watched and stuff like that. I might have ordered a new Lord of the Rings art book. I'm giving up for the most expensive TV series of all time.
14:25
Oh, man. Yeah, heck yeah. But
14:29
if it ever actually gets made perhaps I'd be handy instead of just like talking about forever. I was gonna spend more that's what some of these videos are talking about. They're like maybe we'll see more in the Amazon TV show. like yeah, if it ever happens Come on, guys. Let's just make something
14:47
Yeah, I'll settle for
14:49
I'll settle for something else. Just make it better than the Russian Lord of the Rings one man you guys watching you that Yeah,
14:57
yeah.
15:00
If I haven't had that, don't you know,
15:03
you might not be able to watch all two hours of it? It's special. But we got to talk. We got to watch at least a little bit because we can't we mentioned the movie, we're talking about the quality of the movie to all that. It's it's hard to watch at some points. Also. I will just tell you, I watched it like right when it first came out, because obviously, but I will. So maybe, maybe somebody has fixed it or helped it since then. But the the, I will warn you, the YouTube auto translate from Russian to English is not good. No, yeah, it's bad. So I'm sure some people have gone through and added subtitles, like Captions by now but like the auto generated captions rule Wow. Bueno boss nuts. Oh, boy. Just like
Aaron 15:55
floods. Yeah.
16:00
So that adds the experience of like hurting your brain? Because you're like looking at this like weird camera angle. And then the captions are like jibberish. I think that's right. Something is definitely Lost in Translation here. So heads up for that. If that's still the case, they might have fixed it by now. It's been a couple weeks, but I doubt that one on the side burner. But yes, I've did that. So I've been I've been no like, talking out over the weekend. Like always stuffs, I've been reading some of my similar relion. Right, getting some of them.
16:42
Yeah.
16:48
Trying to find some of those other like random books that he put out later, like, Oh, yeah, here's some other stuff might get some of those add to my collection here. So like, you can read more strange things?
17:03
Oh, yeah. That's been fun. Again, since we have a main topic of conversation, we can set that one to the side. It's always a good one for the show. Right? It fits right in does. But we can save that topic for later. Because I have much to say about it. As always, as we all do. So like, I can't do it today. But got other things to talk about today. Today's topic is Oh, yes, challenge that we convened in the super secret text channels. And back skunkworks offices that we have here at the old brother podcast,
17:46
Empire. And
Brandon 17:49
it was to watch an animated movie that was not from Japan, or the US. Was there any other stipulation? Yeah, it kind of came out of that. Well, we talked about animation a lot. Because it's, again, it's another one of my favorite topics. But it kind of came. The genesis of the idea came from that rocket doodle episode. Yeah, again, the explaining rocket deal episode, where we had just talked about the whole time. And I realized that every time we talk about it, we kind of get stuck in the same because it's our favorite area. Right? So we talked about a lot of the same things. We did the ranking of the mass movies, and we did the talking about that. And we've talked about a lot before I Just here and there. So I thought, you know, we kind of thought it would be fun to kind of look outside of that area that we're familiar with. And as we have already done a challenge about Japanese animation.
18:47
And we have somewhat,
18:49
we have some limited background, Aaron has much more than I think myself for sure. with Japanese animation, movies and television shows, we decided to look other places on the globe to explore other animation and see what was out there. So who wants to go first? I guess that's all well, I just did some preamble to this more preamble. Yes. Well, well, just just yeah. As far as exposure to to other animated.
19:26
I
Collin 19:27
completely forgot that the French love their animated film. And I was because I kept I was like,
19:36
Oh, yeah, the thing like I totally like at one point.
Collin 19:40
I remember that. Or at least that was all that would be in like, the foreign films section of rental places, whatever you'd find a French animated film every now and then. Yeah, I had that same realization at some point. It's like, Oh, yeah, the French do a lot of this stuff, don't they? I don't know if I've ever seen one per se, I might have seen like a translated one and not known it. Yeah, that seems like in the realm of possibility. But as far as I'm aware, I had not actually ever watched any. Well, and part of that, too, is many of animated films and things like that are bought by Disney for rights to distribute any Yeah. And so I think there's like a filter that's placed on us, or at least knee where I'm like, Oh, it's got the Disney thing. So the US, whatever, yeah. Oh, yeah. But I don't ever go back and realize, Oh, no, actually. And then and then on that, trying to find an animated again, not knowing the world of animated anything. Really. Something that
20:50
a? I could watch. That was,
Collin 20:56
yeah, that was a problem. I noticed that. That was a struggle as a real slog. And then be something that wasn't a like,
21:05
kids.
Collin 21:06
Like, cartoon, not necessarily just Cartoon Network, but like, but like, Oh, yeah, right. Like, like a children's movie children's movie, right? Yeah.
21:15
That was
21:19
a what's the you know, you guys don't like awkward knots or whatever. You know that. Yeah. thing. Something like Paw Patrol nonsense, right? Like,
Aaron 21:26
yes. Yeah. Like, yeah,
21:29
I I have that gripe as well. I'm glad you brought that up. Because I almost forgot to mention, I forgot to write that part down. Um, yeah. Finding It
Aaron 21:38
is very difficult. Yeah, I don't.
21:42
I don't, it shouldn't be this hard to like, because basically, I had to like Google. ad for an animated films. And I've had a bunch of top 10 lists. Yeah. And I had to go from there. You can't, again, my personality. And I know, this is like me, I am a browser. I like to browse my selections, peruse the aisle, if you will. And on lots of these websites, you can't filter by more than one criteria. Yeah. And like, an animation is not one of the criteria. So you can watch like,
Aaron 22:23
foreign
Brandon 22:27
or like, drama. But you can't search for foreign drama. And then you definitely can't add like an animation tag in there somewhere. I don't know why. That's not a thing. You would think that'd be the easiest thing in the world. like, Yo, this is animated, we should make sure it's marked as animated. So you can browse animated. And I think that goes with to kind of what Collin was talking about. And we've talked about this before, but that kind of belief that animation equals kids.
Aaron 22:57
Yeah. Yeah. Right. And it,
23:00
it, it goes hand in hand together. And I'll pick it up on the steam a little bit more later, we get into the movie stuff, but like,
23:09
I
Brandon 23:11
don't like that. You know, like, Oh, it's animated. It's got to be for kids. And I think that does come from a lot of the US anyway, our exposure to animation does come from Disney. And those movies are marketed directly to children. Yeah, right. They can be viewed by anybody obviously. But their target audience is younger. Excuse very young. So the kind of association that you make is oh animation equals kid and you know, we've touched on before with some of the Japanese movies anyway that that is definitely not true. Some of the themes are heavy, right? And so that's that's another thing where again, I don't know why you can't search animation. What's the matter with you Amazon you have billions of dollars add a function to I can search videos with multiple tags What is the matter of you every other website you can filter by multiple criteria
24:19
not Amazon movies Nope. Only you will get TV show movie drama for him comedy kid it's like it like what well and i
Collin 24:33
i gotta say
Aaron 24:34
mine that I want
Collin 24:38
Was there any any other opening statements on that because I'm I'm 100% in agreement that it's really frustrating
24:50
Yeah,
24:51
I don't think so. Do you have anything else to add before we dive in cuz it's all what movie Collin watching Oh by Lord I'm definitely not jealous. Maybe
Aaron 24:58
I know with, with a lot of movies for at least animated, I can always, well, sometimes I'm like, I'm 30 years old, I'm an adult. And then I can sit and binge watch like family guy for like 12 hours. For me, like, animation and like films, a lot of it did stem from Disney. And being a part of that, you know, global market of stuff there. There's been a lot of times, especially recently for me, of when I'm like, searching for something, I've been able to find some like weird, more adult, or catered to more adult themed animation series. Amazon has it, I guess it's still kind of in that market of like superhero genre. Amazon is really catered to are kind of following like the justice or the DC kind of universe where they're kind of going for more gritty kind of animation, they're going for more things that you know, a broader audience. And one of those that I watched recently was an animated superhero movie that was related to or geared more towards adults. So for me finding stuff. A lot of those are us made, though, so it's a little different.
26:29
Yeah. And but if you notice that movie doesn't have an animation tag on Amazon, it's just like, action only. So if you're looking specifically for animation, apparently, we're the only three people in the world that do this.
26:46
You can find
26:46
it. Aaron also, that's another good point. I want to mention just briefly,
Aaron 26:50
he would think
26:52
with the fact that South Park is over 20 years old at this point, would kind of think about like, oh, animations, not just for children. I think that but now that stereotype and stigma, like really follows it hard to wear, like I've talked to people and they're like, Oh, it's animated. That's not like a real movie. Like,
Aaron 27:16
wait a minute, what? Yeah.
Brandon 27:21
No, I it really is tough, because you can do so many things with it. And I know we've kind of mentioned things like Grave of the Fireflies, and telling or other very serious or, you know, even more R rated films, using animation. But just like the breadth of stories, like it's just a medium with which to tell these stories. It's not. Yeah, limited. Exactly. cuddly teddy bears, you know? Well, and the medium is so incredibly versatile. Right? You can do so many different things with animation, like, interesting stuff. And, like, I'm going to come on to some of that later. But I kinda want to set that table, like, the stuff that you can do, and like the creativity that you can come, like, come up with just because you literally have like, unlimited. It's not like you have a special effects budget. It's not like you have to like, you know, do all this crazy stuff for like, back in the 80s when it was all like live action. So I was like, can just draw it so talented. Like they can draw anything.
Aaron 28:39
That was that was a big thing with like, this is just an example just because I wanted to watch it. But my brain was like, Yeah, probably not of like the Starship Troopers series. And so you know, the movies, there's like plenty of them. Now, they switch to animation, because they're like, Oh, well, yeah, a lot of people haven't really been watching our movies. And some of these movies even though they're pretty low budget CGI, they're still being like, they're still relatively expensive. So what if we switch to more an animated audience? That way we can pump out more movies at a lower budget. And some of them that they come out have come out with I've been haven't been like, too terrible. But they've just been popular with a certain kind of audience that's like, Hey, this is what I like. And it's easy to make. So
29:25
the ones that already like Starship Troopers. That's
Aaron 29:29
exactly but yeah,
29:30
yeah. Like you can you can really explore and do really creative and like interesting things. And, and like you said, if it's a live action movie, some of those things are not possible. Right? Or you have to do it like crazy computer CGI, you could do all stuff. It's all crazy. But if you're animating it, even even computer animating, right, that keeps drawing. And it's just like crazy stuff. And again, that kind of goes into the movies that I watched like it brings that out of it. So I just want to set that table to come back to later. Yeah.
30:07
Yeah. Well, I
Collin 30:08
think that there's a lot of jumping off points there. But I'll go ahead and start so we can maybe end on some high end. Yeah. But
Aaron 30:16
yeah, boy.
Collin 30:18
So I, my search entitled, just googling for like, top 20 lists, or top 10 lists
30:27
of also, I
30:28
think, the smallest boiler is all the movies that you guys said, You watch were on the list. So I think we all read the same list. And luckily,
30:36
yeah, well, and I tried to
Collin 30:40
what I tried to do was not read anything about what I was clicking, I was harkening back to our random animal age, and I was looking at titles. titles, I didn't look at anything about the videos or movies. And I can wish maybe I would have you know, read a synopsis for something. So lots of thoughts about this movie, I watched the 2009 with Bashir is an Israeli animated film depicting a 1982 Lebanon War.
Aaron 31:19
Now,
Collin 31:20
what is what is know what is extremely key to this and it is mind boggling. This is actually a documentary.
31:31
Whoa, what?
Collin 31:33
Okay, but ready for this?
31:35
Yeah, the, the,
Collin 31:38
the director, Ari Folman took part in the 1982 Lebanon War. And the creation of this film was a way to recapture memories that he had actually blocked out from that time period, and was trying to
31:55
understand
Collin 31:56
with why he was having these reoccurring night, like therapy, therapy for him. And why no animated films before. And what's really cool about this, you're talking about techniques. A lot of you have said this looked rotoscoped. And that's where you do the 3d projection, or you project onto a glass pane, as you paint over, yeah, creates artificial depth. No, he used he was a combination of Adobe Flash cell cuttings, and in 3d animation to create this. So it the whole thing is set to go very dark. And again, clearly, it's an actual documentary. So it's what hits walking through conversations that he has, interviewing other friends or people that he gets in contact with, about the the 1982, Lebanon War, and his interview with him as he pieces together. And what's amazing is that many of the soldiers that he interviews through this process, almost talk about being moved through a dream sequence, as they're coping with the horrors that they're watching. And he's able to animate
33:17
those that process that process. And what Whoa, and so what you Oh, no, it is absolutely wasn't that combination that you talked about there of how he animated I bet that really adds to that kind of like dream esque quality of kind of like, it is surreal, almost where it's, you know, you can so you know, I can always like feel somebody kind of like grasping at that, right? Because it's so surreal, right? Like, right, he's
Collin 33:47
trying to take these literal bands. So it opens with a pack of rabid hungry dogs running down the streets. I mean, these are emaciated, they've got glowing eyes. And they run through the street knocking people and stuff over, and they stop outside of a window and they look up and they're barking. And it's this guy looking down at them. That's the opening sequence, that it cuts to that guy talking to Ari going I have the same dream. It's 26 dogs running down the street at me, and they're barking me and they're telling me that I need to go out there. So they can tear me apart. And he's like, how do you know it's 26 and not 30? Wow, how do you know and the and the guy goes. When we used to invade villages, the dogs would always bark and alert that we were coming in the people would escape in my job was to shoot the dog before they could bark. And I remember every six that I had to shoot and, and that's it all of a sudden you're like, oh my god. And then Ari Folman is actually playing wholesale and interviewing these people. And what he did is for real, yeah, so they recorded it over a 90 minute, 90 minute, they record it initially in a 90 minute soundstage. With an interviewing people, and then they took that and split it in made the storyboard out of that, and then added in the music and the sound effects on top of that. So it's actually this these conversations that they're animating on top of, as he's interviewing, wow, generals. And as he's interviewing, you know, other people and, and the story is building because the guy that he talks to his name is Bo as and he's going, are you? Do you ever think about this in our is going to know, I don't I don't know you're talking about. And then over the course time already starts to have these flashes in these memories. And he's trying to grasp it this one. And he's like, I don't understand why I can't figure out what this is. And it's the self discovery process, as he's interviewing him all different and discovering what he's blocked out already. Right. Wow. And so here's the thing, it keeps building up and in the background, you keep hearing about this massacre that happened and it's the Sabra and Shatila massacre that happened in Beirut, keep hearing about this thing. And it's building and I gotta tell you the soundscape that they built for this was designed by a minimalist, Techno guy. And so there's, there's these periods where there's this huge driving bass, but this airy waldsee music on top. And it just creates this big discordance as you're going through, because always trying to figure this out and trying to understand why things aren't adding up. And it
36:33
turns out
Collin 36:35
that this again, this is all real. Okay. Where were I? This movie is really intense. And I wasn't expecting to watch a war documentary, or cry. When I watch this. It. He's trying to figure out what's going on with this massacre and why he can't remember that night. Because he has like, I remember every leave that I had. And I remembered everything. And he's interviewing psychologists and they're animating these interviews where she's like,
37:05
Oh, well,
Collin 37:06
I interviewed somebody from this war. And I said, How did you make it through and he was like, well, I just was like, I was on holiday. And he psychologically, this person viewed everything, like he was behind the camera, just taking picture. And it was kind of fun. And then one day, they came in to where they had all of the
37:27
thoroughbred Arab
Collin 37:29
Arabian horses that were all slaughtered, and it broke his camera. It thrust him into that reality and he couldn't cope anymore. And so much what what's going on here? Well, Ari is describing this massacre, and he's interviewing these generals in these people. And it turns out that they evacuated these refugee camps and told everybody come with us and you'll live well on me know how that goes. And they did this non stop right and this this Christian launch groups and militia groups were hired by the by the armed forces to come in hold on I lost the track here I look trenching my notes.
Aaron 38:20
Cuz it's a lot of Yeah. Yeah. So
Collin 38:24
the rail is the Israeli forces had hired the Christian Fulani militia group to come in and do their dirty work. And they released this militia group into these camp of Palestinians. And oh, wow, and just kind of like sat back. And we're like, well, we didn't do anything. And there, they had a, it was intentionally designed, what they call them circles, though the first circle was the ones who were actually doing the killing. And then the second and third circles were the ones who were supporting them who weren't actually getting their hands dirty. The Christian philon militia wasn't the person. No Israelis were in that first circle. They were all in the second third. Yeah, they didn't even know what was going on. Aires, Ari, Coleman's mom and dad survived Auschwitz,
39:13
and
Collin 39:14
is the Israelis. And those of that descent were struggling with the role that the people that painting but people who are on standing by contributed to the Holocaust, right? Turns out that Ari was in the circle, and his job was at nighttime to shoot flares into the sky to the Christian of launch militia could go from door to door. He basically acquainted himself with the secondary and tertiary circles
39:53
of,
39:54
of Auschwitz and of that genocide. And that's why blocked out Like the guard, I don't do enough,
Collin 40:02
right? I didn't know what was going on. They just and they would literally say, Hey, we're evacuating all these people, we need you to light the sky so they can see. Yeah, and they just did what they were told. And they'll be old. I'm just following orders. right stick and yeah, had found himself in that, right, doing the exact same thing of these atrocities that they would still not recovered from previously.
40:30
And,
Collin 40:32
and, and of all these things that were going on, and so he that's what he finally figures out of this. And the last scene
40:42
is
Collin 40:44
when they, when they finally stop the massacre going on inside, they just basically released the women back in and said, Okay, fine, go home. And then they left. And the, the general, for the guys who are in the secondary circle was like, No, we're going in with them. And so they're there. You're walking in, and you're, you hear he's animating the women going in, and you hear the sound of wailing and screaming as they're going into their houses.
Aaron 41:18
Yeah. And like I I,
Collin 41:24
I almost didn't make it through this part. And because as it's animating, it's doing a camera flyover through the screen, and you're passing women and children from the back. And it fades from animated into an actual video. The foot real footage while these people are going back in. And the reason the soundscape was so disturbing is because it's the real sound of the people finding their loved ones.
41:49
Oh, my kill.
Collin 41:52
And your and that's how the movie ends.
Aaron 41:59
Oh, my gosh. And you're left with going?
Collin 42:08
Yeah, you asked a bunch of questions. Who's to blame? Who could astound? right and that's why I'm in a block that out. And the title Waltz with Bashir is is a play where Bashir was the president of Lebanon. And he was the one that all of the Lebanese Forces had rallied around. And he was actually assassinated during this time period. And was made to
42:39
Martin write the history book.
Collin 42:41
And, and it's this it's this play of like, of the of Israel and Lebanon, waltzing, basically in battle through this process.
Aaron 42:55
And it's also this,
Collin 42:57
this Walt, in my mind, this waltz of Ari Folman dancing around the truth, and trying to figure out what what actually happened, right, and always dancing and always flirting and it never actually finishing, because you're still left with this. Just going to keep going around and around.
43:20
Dang, man.
Collin 43:22
So beyond beyond the subject matter, this movie was gorgeous. To watch. I cannot get over how beautiful the scenes are put together. And there's truly in my mind, literally no other way to have bought this to put together the dreamscapes on it layered on top of what's going on because if you tried to do an actual documentary, right, you couldn't show that. Right? You couldn't do this. And it's actually like, at some points, you're going okay, is this the dream? Or is this reality as we're moving in between these things and moving between person?
44:01
Well,
Collin 44:03
just brilliantly done, I was blown away. Totally Unprepared for it my like
44:11
yeah,
44:13
it was pretty prepared for that. Crazy
44:16
just
Collin 44:18
just drawn in as you're trying to figure out what happened. Why can't you and it's focused on Arie Omen, but it's it's really not. Because his his the larger. His story is a small piece of this larger and larger story. And I'm learning a lot about this war that I had no idea went on. Yeah, right. I only vaguely recall that that was the thing that happened, right? That's like a it's like an edit normally, that just gets like an annotation, right like there was a war 1982 between Israel and Lebanon.
44:54
Yep. That's it.
44:56
That's that's most of what you get, at least here in the in the United States. That's our perspective, at least mine. Right from that. ago, something I'm vaguely aware of, but like, I have absolutely no idea about the details, right.
45:11
So Dang, man. Yeah. Yeah. And,
Collin 45:16
and, you know, and, and he's, he actually interviews, you know, he's interviewing real people. And he's doing this. It's very, you know, some of the people he recast with voices because they either weren't comfortable with doing this or whatever. But it's the real conversations. They're real things that happen and told him the story. And I just, yeah, it was beyond. Because it's just culminating, right? Just like, you don't have if you don't have this, but yeah, there's almost literal drums in the background, just the slow steady beat of the story crescendoing right. Yep. torshin doing right up until he gets that realization of exactly what happened. And then it shows that, and then it shows him because it's, yeah, it's Yeah, because he, I, I recommend you. You gradually just watch it, like I kind of ruined it for the ending there. But you can watch it. And you can be bored for the cast, we'll call this but it's something that you can definitely watch and just,
46:25
you know, like,
Collin 46:27
again, be caught up and your, your knowing that it's real, like that's whenever all of a sudden I had I had to pause it right when it started because I was like, wait a minute, like, this seems kind of weird, the way this is going. And then as soon as I was like, I saw a documentary, I stopped reading and I kept watching and in my back of my mind, I was like, Oh, no. Oh, forward. Oh, no. And I found out that this is the fifth highest grossing rated R anime film ever.
46:57
Wow.
47:00
Yes, dang, though, has some heavy stuff, right. It's been a few countries in case you didn't. didn't win. Yeah, I wonder which ones
47:18
though. Wow,
Collin 47:21
I genuinely enjoyed it. I was a lot, but I appreciate it.
47:30
That's cool, though. Dang. Alright, I
Brandon 47:34
don't know how to follow that. So we're gonna jump in with a little segue. Now. I ended up watching two movies. Again, because I'm overachiever. I couldn't pick between two of them, mostly because I couldn't decide which one I want to watch. And then I watched the first one. And I was kind of like, yeah. And so I watched second one, it was better. So I won't say about both of them today about my journey through animation. The one that I started with the focal point of this one was I watched something called the secret of Kells. Also 2009 weirdly, and it is from Ireland. It was directed by a guy named Tom Moore. So it's pretty interesting. stylistically, it's very different from college. For me, this movie is it's very whimsical.
Aaron 48:32
Right? It's like early light.
48:38
I don't know if there's a year place on this movie, but it's like, kind of like migration era. Ireland. Right? It's kind of where we are here. So it's like real early Ireland.
Brandon 48:51
Like ninth or 10th century probably. So but it's really this whimsical, like 2d animation. Like the that character models kind of remind me it took me a long time to figure this out. But like, of like, you know, the Disney movie, The Legend of Hercules or whatever. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like their proportions and how their bodies are shaped. They kind of remind me of that style, but it's 2d, kind of like this flat, 2d animation style. So it's really pretty. And then they interweave a lot like when they get out into like the forest. There's a lot of like Celtic imagery, like in the trees and it's pretty light and all the stuff so you'll get kind of that contrast. So it's about an abbey right it called it's Kells Abbey in Ireland, right, I guess. And there's a little kid His name is Brendan Brendan. And there's an Abbot at and the abbot. It's because of the Abbott character distracts me a lot because he is
49:58
talking about actors that catch you, right? He's voiced by Brendan Gleason. AKA the guy that plays mad eye moody in the Harry Potter plays Alistair moody. So like, he's like, sit there and talking to Yeah, like any like,
Aaron 50:17
wait, no. That's fine. Everything's
Brandon 50:23
fine. Yeah, it's really funny. So it kind of catches you off guard. It was. Like he's talking to you like, Oh, wait, it's not him. So they like live in this remote medieval outpost in Ireland. And the abbot is like, super strict. And he's like, they're they're, they they're, they've heard about the raids of the North men. Right. That's where we are. So the Vikings are about. And so the abbot is obsessed with building this giant wall in circling the abbey to protect everybody. Well, in the Abbey, there's like the writers and the artists, the illuminators. Right. And they talk about, like famous books and everything. And apparently there's a book that's like the most beautiful illuminated book in the world. And the guy that did it is like the guy that started it. It's like super famous, and he was the best illustrator and the guy that currently has it as a master and he's so amazing. Well, that guy ends up coming to the Abbey.
51:23
His name is wayward, Aiden. Yes.
Brandon 51:29
And he has a cat named pengar, which is exciting. He comes to the abbey and he's the Abbott's old friend from a long time ago. And we're the abbot is like all Stern, and like, brooding Aiden's like very free spirit. He's like, very artsy guy, right? He's a guy. He's got like, super long white hair and everything. And this cat. So he Brendon is kind of torn between like wanting to listen to the abbot and because Abbott's his uncle, right to protect him. But he also is super interested in like, the arts, and he wants to be an illustrator. So he kind of hangs out with Aiden, and so he's kind of torn between this so Aiden's like Alright, man, I'll teach cuz he did this kids real creative. He draws on a little chalkboard and stuff. And like he's talking, there's some parts where he's like, narrating his thoughts, and he's like, drawing on a slate board, but everything's like moving and coming to life, you know, to show his really vivid imagination. That's pretty cool, little part. So the Aiden's like, yo, go out to the forest, you know, come with me to the forest and we'll find these berries from an oak tree. Which I think those are called acorns, but whatever. Maybe they maybe not Ireland, maybe have berries and then different kind of oak tree maybe. And they make the best ink. So come with me. And Brendan's all like I can't, I'll get in trouble. I can't go well, at night, he decides to like, go anyway. So he like sneaks out
52:57
early morning.
Brandon 52:59
He's like, yeah, it's that fine. I'll be okay. And he gets out anything like Actually, I don't even know what an oak tree looks like, because he doesn't ever leave the abbey because his uncle won't let him out. So he's like, going out in the woods with the cat sneaks out with him, right? It's sort of lost and he gets chased by some bull things. And then he is saved by this like woods, fairy spirit. person named ashling. Just little girl.
53:24
She's like, this, like, bright fairy. She's
Brandon 53:29
like bouncing around. She's like, we jump into my woods, weirdo and suddenly kind of start developing this dynamic. She helps him find the berries and all this. And then they spend all day in the woods and he discovers like a dark place where a dark evil lives and then she like makes them go away. Whenever he goes back to the Abbey. He gets in trouble he gets like locked in the tower. And then like, she helps him escape. And they like do this quest for like the the illustrator says I would teach you more of my skill, but I lost the little magnifying glass lens thing that that the old elevator guy passed down to me. And he has a vision and he goes on this he goes out into the woods to find another one whatever. Like, he does this whole ordeal he conquers his fears in this deep woods in the dark of where the deep evil thing leaves or whatever. And he goes back.
Aaron 54:32
Cool, he kind of learns about it. And then like, you know, so
54:36
he kind of gets some help from Ashley and a little bit. They kind of have this dynamic and then then the North men come
54:46
into town
54:47
and then like they attack the abbey and nothing the abbot did was was good enough and they just destroyed his wall and the gate and they killed a bunch of people and he thought they killed Brenda But Britain in like escaped with Aiden and the cat and they bounce it off through the woods and Ashlyn helped them escape and then like then in the movie is like almost over, you're like, Wait, what?
55:17
Like, this is a movie, where kind of like, once you get to that point,
55:23
it just goes like, it does these really cool animation panels and there's all these really cool they do this really cool thing all the time when there's like three panels on the screen and people move from one to the other. And it kind of shows them moving through different spaces. Were there in the Abbey. Well, the last ones I like as time passes. Like
55:42
that's it. That's all yet. Nothing. Nothing else. I'm passes.
55:49
All of a sudden, I guess Aiden is dead. The cat still alive for some reason. And Brendan is older. And he goes, he finishes the book.
56:01
He's done. It's all finished.
56:04
It goes back to the Abbey. And he meets his uncle and his uncle's all decrepit and sad. I could never say Brenda and I could never end He's like, Yo, I'm here, bro. What's up? And he shows in the book. And then the movies over he like there's like no closure with actually right now he like sees her on the way. And he's like, hey, but that's it. There's no like there's no closure with that storyline. There's no real closure with the other storyline. He just like, shows him the book. And it's so beautiful as a kid cries and then like the credits roll,
56:42
you're like, alright. Yeah, like,
56:46
okay, man. I don't I don't say this very often. But this movie could be 20 minutes longer,
56:53
right? It's only like
56:56
a little over an hour. runtime is hour and 15. But that's like to end credits. So it's like an hour and 10 minutes. Wow, this needs to be a 90 minute movie. Because there's so much stuff. It's like, it's really well fleshed out until the Vikings come in, attack them.
57:14
And then it's just like over.
57:17
They just go with the End Time passed. Like, come on man.
57:26
gets so weird. Like,
Brandon 57:30
I don't know what happened. But they do. And, and there's no closure with the story either. Because like in the beginning, it kind of I kind of felt like they were trying to go for like the cuz Aiden was talking about like, Oh, we can't, we can't only live in the Abbey, we have to be out and experience nature. Because the beauty of the world comes from nature. And he's talking about like, the illustrations in the books, those old illuminated books, a lot of them are based in nature, right? Because that's where the beauty is. And there's some parts of the beginning where he's like, Brendon is out. He like, sneaks out of the abbey and him and ashling are like hanging out in the woods and he's practicing his art and he's showing her and it's like the vines on a tree and these like beautiful spiral patterns and like the beautiful nature patterns, right? And she's a little wood fairy so she thinks it's like super awesome. And she loves it and everything.
58:29
I don't think she saw the finished book. I said that he didn't bother to show her
58:37
on man. What?
Aaron 58:39
What is this? Nothing. There's no closure anywhere. Come on. That's crazy.
58:46
Yeah, it was so weird. And again, it's this really like whimsical. I kind of like you were talking about like this story really works in animation. Yeah, because you can capture like the wimzie and kind of beauty and the patterns of nature in certain ways. And, and then you get the really Stark like the Vikings are animated. They're basically just black
59:06
outlines. With like menacing eyes. That's kind of it right? They're really austere. And when they show up, it's like black and red only, like the color palettes very different. Inside the Abbey's all that gray, but then like outside in the woods, it's always really bright and vibrant colors, you know. And then like it just stays over here like what I audibly said out loud, like, wait, that's it. There's no more
59:40
sorry, really, it's like the first
59:43
half of the story was executed very well. And then it just sort of
59:50
stopped. And I was like, Oh, well dang it.
1:00:00
I was upset. So that is actually why I watched a second because the first one was just so like, miss.
1:00:07
Yeah. Okay, so
Collin 1:00:08
what's this?
1:00:09
What's the second one?
1:00:11
You have me do my second one. Now I wait to the end. Well, I don't have a second one.
Aaron 1:00:16
So okay,
1:00:17
well, I'll just do it real I'll do this. I'll do this one much faster. But the second one I watched is called a cat in Paris. Okay, and it's a French. It's a French animated movie. And it's much more interesting. Basically, the rundown is there's a cat and by day he lives with this little girl Zoe and her mom. But by night, he lives this guy who's like a cat burglar and he like goes out cat burgling with him. It's really hilarious. So it's like a dual life of this cat. And he like
1:00:53
that's wonderful.
Brandon 1:00:55
It's kind of cool, right? And then there's this whole like, you get wrapped up in this like subplot of like the mom it turns out the mom is actually a police Superintendent like special investigator person. And like so this whole subplot gets cut It's not what you think like she started visiting the burglaries but then it ties into like, there's this like crazy mobster dude that like murdered her husband, who was also a police officer. And like, he gets tied up in there and then like the crazy cat burglar guy turns out like, he's not really
1:01:30
like, he's not the bad guy. He
1:01:32
just steals stuff. So like he actually saves the girl from this crazy monster guy. And it's like the cats helping and like
1:01:41
I love this.
1:01:42
It's pretty good.
1:01:43
It's only like an hour.
1:01:45
It's like the pacing is really good. And it's like really fast and like he actually has an ending. That's good, right like
1:01:55
it has a has a full story arc where it doesn't just like it's not just like it's over. Like Wait,
Aaron 1:02:01
wait no, come back.
Collin 1:02:04
I'm not done yet.
1:02:07
So yeah, they go on this like little run through Paris and the girl and the cat in this burglar guy trying to save the day. It's raging. But yes, the basic the basic idea is house cat by day cat burglar by night. Pretty good right? There's some other like sub stuff the guy won't go too far because I talked about the other one was I liked this one much better.
1:02:34
I like it a lot.
Brandon 1:02:36
So I guess the legend of Kells was like one of the first ones this guy did. So he's done some other ones that look good. Maybe I'll watch it at some point. But like this one I really love first one. Like I've written that, that sort of kills again the animations really good. Truly whimsical. The story is just like well, it came up on where's the cat in Paris, I feel like a much more complete package. You've got like, the the animation is really beautiful. It's more 3d style, right? But it's the kind of this it's very unique looking. By just the way that they draw people kind of capture Paris is very interesting. Oh, and they one part that's really awesome that they do is they're like, he's sneaking in to get something right. And he cuts the wires. He cuts the power cap burger dude, whose name I forgot. He cuts to the power. And so it goes from being like normal animated to it's completely black screen. And everybody's just a white chalk outline. And that's showing him like sneaking through the house. I love that like cat burglary through the the way that they snapped up the animation styling when the lights go off is it's so good. It's like fits the scene perfectly. Cuz you can see that people like walk into the door to get the flashlight and then like behind him. He's like, sneaking. Like he's like very acrobatic, right. So he's like slinking through the scene like with the cat like going upstairs to get out that's it's so good. So like some of the ways that they use animation to tell the story in iMovie are really interesting, right? Like they're really cool. Like the way they play with the medium and kind of do that stuff for like a chase scene and for like, some of the big shots they do are really interesting. So I liked that one too much better. Again, I don't kill this array, except for the story stopped. And there wasn't more. So that's that's interesting, because that one was came up on a lot of lists that I saw that was like highly recommended of like, you must
1:04:49
watch this one. Yeah. I don't know why.
1:04:51
Interesting. I don't know. I must have missed something. I guess because like I just fit it. I didn't feel very satisfied.
1:04:59
Yeah, bye. The ending especially because there's no I think it put me off greatly because there was no closure with the Ashlynn character. Because she's such a pivotal part of the story at the beginning, right? She helps him learn about the woods. she invites him to come back she helps him to tower she knows the stuff and then he just like leaves. She like helps him escape when the Vikings calm. But they like
1:05:27
talk again after that.
1:05:29
Like he knows that she's there. Christian surplus known whenever he comes back.
1:05:34
But like,
1:05:36
there's no like, moment of like, Ah, yes.
1:05:40
There's a there's like, there's no closure. He's just sort of left
1:05:45
air like I don't
1:05:48
know. Yeah. Yeah.
1:05:53
So it's, it's really weird. Again, if we're if we're going by, besides the legend of cows, and the more child friendly,
1:06:03
I
1:06:03
guess, like
1:06:04
darker some of the Vikings look a little life you're really young to be like, oh my gosh. I can't totally just an adult movie with like, some of the language that gives us like, Oh, yeah, it's not it's not for kids. For sure. So if you're gonna watch this with children, no, that is not what you want to have around. Oh, is you can watch it in French though, so they won't even know probably, but like
1:06:26
reading.
1:06:27
Yeah, they read the captions like, hey, what I gotta say, I know what remind. I did of course watch it in French because it makes it better but
Aaron 1:06:35
yeah, yeah.
1:06:37
So I watched those. I was I was just I can't, I wanted to like the list of the secret of called the legend, the secret of Kells. Because I really thought it was really pretty. And it was set up in such a good story in the end was just like I was just really put off by the ending. Yeah, I mean, that's barely Yeah. But it's interesting that again, like
1:07:06
the
Collin 1:07:07
So again, just the depth the width of I guess, I don't know that my brain just completely broke there. I'm sorry. The how that medium can be stretched so wide and cover, you know, the different animation styles and then again, but it comes down to story right? If
Aaron 1:07:27
the story is not good? Yeah. Yeah, right. Like,
1:07:33
I've watched Cadbury's again tomorrow, but I don't think I'd probably watched the secret of Kells again. Okay, nice. It just put me off to the end. I was like, Whatever, man. I guess stop me like that. Come on.
1:07:50
Cuz I was like, the whole time. I
Collin 1:07:51
was like, man, I got a lot to do and movies almost over and just was over. Like,
1:07:55
wait, what?
1:07:57
Yeah, well, at that point that they were, they were kind of like, man, we have a lot to do we need to get this movie to wrap up. Anyway, we're gonna stop here. Like
1:08:08
Okay, yeah.
1:08:10
It was a choice they made. Yeah. Good. Yeah. No, there was my two that I snuck through there may go
Aaron 1:08:17
a little bit. Okay, so Aaron, Aaron. Oh, well, so mine was a bit different. The the movies that I picked, again, were from a list of animated films. But one of the only I've seen both of them. I've seen all the ones that I that I have picked, I want to take the movies that I've seen and watch them more as an adult because I don't remember you know, I last seen these movies like 10 years ago, maybe more than that. So I kind of wanted more of like an adult. Look at these films because when I was younger, I always saw them as a cartoon nerd. I just never really thought like the quote unquote, deeper meaning behind it. So the first movie is triplets of belville or also known as this triplet DB visit, which is from 2003 it is listed as a comedy musical a lot of these fit movies that come out I always for some reason get tied up in looking at like the rotten tomatoes score and a Metacritic and just so my my own personal feelings. This is one of like the highest rated animated films. Yeah, it has a 94 and Rotten Tomato. Which is more than save and one of the other ones. I know it's, it's pretty much like a silent film. Essentially. I I'm not have been able to tell you the names of the characters without subtitles or looking pathlight the wiki page isn't basically. So the format of the form. Just Just for me like copying and pasting animated film follows elderly French woman, Madame soza, as she becomes involved in international entry when her grandson who's named as champion of a pro cycle is kidnapped and taken abroad during the Tour de France. Join our faithful dog, Bruno Silva embarks on a journey to find champion of in stumbled across and unlikely allies in the form of three sisters. Or the veterans of the kind of 19 1920s song and dance era. tracking down champion champions criminal captors, the quartet of old women use their wits to try to win the day. Now, when I was younger. So this when I was younger, this film was basically, you know, old lady, you know, trains her grandson, to be a cyclist, he gets kidnapped, and gets put into some show, and he goes and rescues them. Apparently, there's whole like a sub thing underneath it of like, Oh, he's kidnapped by the mob to be used as kind of like an indoor racehorse or like gambling beds. And it's like a deeper meaning of that family. And because during it, it's pretty much like, Oh, she's focused on, you know, getting him trained for cycling, because that's what he was then training during training. And then it the way that he is drawn and animated, you can kind of see like, okay, he literally looks like a horse, like he is being trained and groomed, just to be a cyclist, aka just a racehorse. And so this whole film plays out of the earth heard this journey of, you know, trying to track him down. And then she meets up with, with the sisters, who, when the movie starts, it's definitely kind of got like that 1920s 1930s like animation, like really wiggly drawn design. As far as you know, like, like the older cartoons of Mickey Mouse, like everything's like really wiggly, everything's really kind of like silly. And then it plays into I guess, quote, unquote, modern day France, where everything is, is very bright colored, but everything's still kind of very rigid. And so that's kind of the world that you're in. And then you see this relationship. Again, there is hardly any words spoken. It's either via like the radio, or like the TV or something going on in the background, like the main characters don't talk at all. And so that's how I would have never have guessed. Any of these people's names, if I hadn't looked it up, or the different captains weren't on. It's, it's a very different film than anything I've ever seen. Like when I was, especially when I was younger, because it's a cartoon movie. It's very, it's never it never gets like a dark point. Because it's always very, like cheerful, sort of, throughout the whole film. It's something that I never expected. Like there's one famous scene that one of the sisters she's going out, what's your assuming to fish that she's going to niche down an umbrella, she's got a chair. She goes out to like a pond or something. And she literally takes out a grenade and Chuck's in the water, and then boom, all these frogs jump out to the frogs. That's what they have for dinner. Yeah. When I watched that, then to when I watched it, like, because I watched it today, when I was at work, like it just, it just made me like really giggly. like yeah, that's not what you expect. That's so cool. Um, it's just kind of Colin said earlier, you know, the French who loved their film, in the French absolutely love this film, because it's kind of that French architect that French style that French you know, because as that's put into it, that's not like any other animated shows, especially on my list, that that look like that or act like that or feel like that. It's supposed to transport you back into a very kind of, like older world of kind of, you know, aesthetic, but still very pleasing. As far as budget, this movie had a budget of $9.5 million, and at the box office paid $14.8 million. So it did really well. And so, and this is also kind of like, I don't know if it's like the biggest are kind of one of those, like films that I was kind of like co produced and like France, the UK and Belgium and Canada. It's kind of like a wide range of, of influences, but it's just a really fun movie. And if, if you just want like a very simple, enjoyable movie to watch, this would be a very good movie. To be good animated movies to just sit just sit down and be like, wait, what am I watching? Oh, this is very enjoyable. Sweet. That's my first one. I kind of went down the rabbit hole on this one I didn't mean to. I haven't watched this movie in forever, but I kind of just wanted to enjoy talking about it. Because it kind of did a spin off of like other movies or other movies really influenced that, or especially the books influenced the next one Watership Down 1978 apparently, john hurt his voice is one of the rabbits isn't that he's got a lot of these weird UK animated films from like the early 80s. And so basically, there's some world where the rabbits have like this weird religion and one rabbit these like this vision of everyone dying. And so they're like, we have to escape the war. And it's basically like their journey trying to find like a new home. But it is extremely dark. And very, not at all what I was expecting, especially when I was younger. Also, if it was very like, you know, if you're if you're just sitting there like, I want a sad movie to watch this and play dogs are a perfect film to watch. Oh, my gosh. Oh, very depressing. Very like, Oh, it's funny. So her death was in it. So it's a very British film, which that was one commenters thing that I found. It's like, Dude, this is a very British film, because it doesn't care about your feelings. It doesn't care about cute fuzzy animals. No. Yeah. And then that I found that movie, or refound a movie that plagued dogs and then the 1970s or 1980s for animated films of Animal Farm was also very depressing. It just it just spiraled. The other film and this was one that I especially when I was younger, like I wanted to enjoy, but every time I tried to watch it now I'm like, turn off, um, was key Tina, the prophecy is a 2003 French Canadian CGI animated fantasy film. The some of the English actors are here like Mary or the the English voiceovers are actually you know, pretty well known people apparently like Kristen Dunn's. Isn't this movie apparently. It came out in 2003 in France he was born in the United States from my trip with of belville 94% on Rotten Tomatoes. This movie got a seven on Rotten Tomatoes. Why is extremely it's it's kind of like this alternate universe universe earth that like an alien ship crashes, then I would sprouts this like gigantic life tree. And there's like these weird humanoid inhabitants that live just in this tree and they can't go, they can't climb up or down because there's these weird aliens? Are these weird, like creatures that will eat them. But then like something in the spaceship starts to wake up. And then it's kena and she's trying to like, you know, discover herself and save her people. The animation is terrible. The voice acting is terrible. It's it's very like it looks cool. But if you just YouTube the boat as a call, not the intro. The trailer like it's like, Oh, that looks terrible. But it's a French film technically. And so I I ended up and I was like, Man, this is Oh, this is why I don't watch it. And then come to the last film that I always really enjoyed. But apparently it's a it's it counts as a UK film, but it was more produced in the United States. It's it's the thief and the cobbler 1993 as a 50% on Rotten Tomatoes princess and a shoemaker united they bagged it by restoring regal balls on the tallest like, tower thing. Vincent Price voices the main bad guy and Matthew Broderick voices the cobbler. So if you want like a very, like wonky film, because it's the art style is definitely something that I never seen before because it's like when I pulled it up. It's all like a video clip. And I was like, Oh, that's right. That's this movie, because that's how I remember it just because it is just so unbelievably weird. The budget was apparently like 28 million in the box off, but only 600,000 bucks. I mean, it didn't do that great. Just it is just a weird movie that I enjoyed as a kid. And then like when I kind of watched it or tried to watch it like recently, I was like, Oh, yeah, definitely not something I expected. But if you out of all of the movies, if you haven't seen a good international film, I would highly recommend 100% The triplets of Melville, just because it is just a pleasing to watch, and just fun. And it's got a lot of weird humor in it. That I didn't get when I was younger. Now that I'm older, I'm like, That's funny. So if you want something just just enjoyable trip.
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Nice.
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You sometimes just fall down those rabbit holes. It's okay. It's alright. Well, it's productive. And we all actually finish our movie this time.
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All right.
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I felt bad if I didn't, because I felt like I was doing something wrong.
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So I
Collin 1:21:36
really enjoyed this, this challenge. And I don't know if that's just because of the movie that I randomly picked. Or it was scratching an animated itch on me that I that I needed that, you know, I can only watch. I mean, I can only watch so many Miyazaki so many times before you're like, Okay, else is there?
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Oh, yeah.
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You want to see something new? And that? Yeah, I agree. I felt the same way. I even though I didn't, like I didn't like wasn't in love with the first movie that I watched.
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I didn't think it was fun and pretty. Right. And it was just, it was nice to see.
Brandon 1:22:20
Something that was different than the normal printed like, the normal, animated fair that I like, easily more easily accessible, I guess. Or that I'm more familiar with, right? It was nice to see something outside the box is different type of story. There's different types of animation. And these different creative ideas presented in through that medium, right? It was just I agree, I really fun. I really enjoyed this one too. Just Just for all the kinds of similar reasons, right? And that, you know, I always, I'm always interested in looking for, like, you know, I guess maybe trying to find like, How the heck do I even find this? Like, what do I have to do? Like, how do I even begin to discover what this means? And it's not something I probably without this I would not have like gone out of my way to have been like, Oh, hey, I should watch a foreign language animated film. I would like so. Yeah. Well, it's fun to do that. Yeah, that's what it makes it kind of searching part. Yeah, they're not very, they're not accessible, like at all and so you end up like, trying to find the most accessible one to you. And I still I mean, for me, I
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don't I have to watch foreign films,
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language or films in a foreign language in their original language. I cannot do dubbed over they've got to they've, I mean, I can but I like to watch them in the original language especially first. Yeah,
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luckily one of mine was from Ireland. So it was just English with really heavy Irish accents. I still had to have the subtitles on but anyway, no, it wasn't it wasn't like super Gaelic, right? Maybe next time never know maybe.
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Well, I can I really like this. We need to
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take this and branch off and start doing into do some more of these these as well. different genres, because it's very good. I think so. Or at least maybe like, try to find other countries because we know we know that France is a well trodden animation hub, right? Or at least we remembered that through halfway through this challenge. I did the same thing that you guys it was like Okay, so maybe you have to pin down some other ones because I do like the exploring other media from other countries just to see kind of what it offers. So we will have to workshop it into some something similar like we did put some other ones so it was good to add to that. I liked it. Yeah. Good. Okay. Lots of good and the animated ones were shorter than the one calling watch that
Collin 1:25:07
the two the two movies that I watched were shorter than that one movie but the right selves. Yeah, no joke. movie I watched Walt with with Bashir. Its total runtime is halfway through how much of the of the film that I watched for Bollywood? Okay, so like I know I still
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Oh good. Okay. Good things like yes. We'll keep doing these and
Collin 1:25:40
we'll be back again next time.
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All right, sounds good.
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I love you guys.