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SPEAKERS

Collin, Aaron

 

Collin  00:04

Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast with three brothers trying to figure everything out with your hosts, Brandon, Collin and Aaron. On this week's show. Are you a Finch?

 

00:24

Hello?

 

00:28

Hello

 

00:31

Brandon, rain down there.

 

Collin  00:34

Rainy pull it out, man. All the rain completely yesterday, we were covering floods in science and flashy flooding. And then lo and behold yesterday afternoon Flash Flood Warning. It's like right on the lookout for contextual science. And then today Roy river is completely underwater. So that was scary. They were sending that they were passing that footage around the Department of like, look how fast water rises. Like oh my gosh

 

01:14

Yeah, it's like Oh, hello.

 

Collin  01:17

It took me a minute as Susan showed me a Facebook video a while ago and it took me a good long while to figure out what exactly like where exactly I was looking in the park because it was just so much water I didn't do that.

 

Aaron  01:33

Where am I? Oh

 

Collin  01:39

it's very unrecognizable there's so much fun all the trout are now freed there we go I hope it didn't like flood into the I probably didn't the

 

01:53

the

 

Collin  01:55

pins are up high enough. Well that's what we mean video is I couldn't either because I saw the video the video that I saw was further downstream in the partner sub below the waterfall.

 

02:10

Yeah. The second waterfall I think

 

Collin  02:14

so they were far it was further down. So I don't think it was up by the

 

02:21

battery pins,

 

02:22

but I could I don't know. So that would be bad. Yeah,

 

Collin  02:29

well Plus, you know,

 

02:30

it's just

 

Collin  02:33

yeah, we couldn't tell from some of the videos of how high it got and I don't think they've reported out yet at least from the history side of things what the damage is probably won't know until this rate

 

02:47

Oh no, not till that wire goes down some Yeah, but yeah, it's like oh my cash. So yeah, what

 

Collin  02:55

I think I was looking at was farther down close to the

 

02:59

bridge. I the highway.

 

Collin  03:03

Somewhere between the bridge like I think it was that first big parking lot when you go down there and you turn left to go up towards the hatchery. But there's that low parking lot down there. Kind of on the right side, close to the river where all the fishermen Park.

 

03:17

But

 

Collin  03:18

before you get to the hole where you have to buy all the lands isn't the license building. I think that's what I was looking at. So that's pretty far downhill from the trappings and they're up at the very top by the spring. Right. So that's up quite a hill.

 

Aaron  03:35

Yeah, it's a bit so. I think

 

Collin  03:40

my guess is they're probably okay. Yeah, that's probably why they built them up on top of the hill but had to match this route the springwater too far away. They're just yeah, it's right there by the springs goes to blame.

 

03:56

So yes, but uh, yeah, it was crazy. Think Oh, dang. They're all like

 

Collin  04:06

this Funkhouser you were just talking about flooding and it's flooding Did you have anything to do with that was like no no, no, no, I don't actually not have power but our our little turn around don't drown talk was a very applicable yesterday.

 

04:32

Da

 

Collin  04:34

Aaron Are you there? Is it floating away in Oklahoma or is it just

 

Aaron  04:40

it was pretty is pretty flimsy. Most of the day there's been some pictures people are saying like from other counties of like, Oh, no. Careful of this area. Like oh, it doesn't look that bad. Like flood, and no more building. Oh, Yeah, I definitely should avoid those areas. So it from from here at least it's been it's been jersey and miserable, wet like all day here so I haven't left but apparently all the roads are in or around tolls I have been pretty mad. Yeah, the IT

 

Collin  05:23

guy I don't know when it started raining here. I don't think it was raining when I went to bed at like 11 something last night. But this morning when I woke up it was definitely raining pretty good. And when I was at school first hour, so like eight o'clock I was looking at the Weather Channel. It's like oh, it's already rained almost two inches like

 

Aaron  05:46

ah, hold on.

 

Collin  05:49

So sometime between like, past midnight probably and eight o'clock in the morning it rained two inches down, which is definitely bad. So dark outside this morning that like I couldn't like it was black outside my classroom windows until sometime after nine o'clock. So cloudy and so much pain was happening. It was blackout. That was really weird. I I turned the lights off to see a slide for a second. I was like, oh,

 

06:21

whoa, okay. Yikes. So yeah, it was a

 

06:33

excitement say seems to have or now. So that's good.

 

06:42

Hopefully it slowed down for a bit.

 

Collin  06:44

Yeah, I remember I cannot take anymore so hopefully stops for a while.

 

06:52

Yeah. So I survived that. But how are you? Oh, we are. We are well,

 

Collin  07:04

we had a good day to day. Lilian completed a tight turn in the driveway on her bike with no training wheels on there. She's very proud of herself.

 

07:18

Hey,

 

07:20

no one's getting like foot down like motocross like, are like.

 

07:25

quite well. Wow. Okay. Well, that's, that's

 

07:27

next week.

 

Collin  07:28

Yeah. But on Monday, we were out on bikes, as well. And, you know, it was the first time that I have seen this kind of determination in her where she was trying to make this turn. I mean, it's really tight turn, she can do a big wide burn just fine. But this was kind of a tight like, hairpin turn back around, right. And we go back in the opposite direction and are driving trying to move chicane action. Yeah, she can't act and, and she kept trying and trying and falling and falling and falling. And she kept saying I just want to own more time, just wanna do it one more time, just want to one more time. And it was like 720 at night, and we go to bed at 730. It was like honey, like we have to be done. And she got too angry at me. Because she couldn't keep working on it to meet her goal. And she actually said that she's like, Dad, for not letting me do it. and was like, then she was upset at herself that she couldn't do it. Like she had the heart and her mind was there of this is what I want to do. But she didn't have the ability. And she was really frustrated.

 

08:46

So we have a

 

Collin  08:48

we have a long talk about about that. That's okay. Right, that part of learning something new, we're not always the best at it immediately when we try something that that we need to practice. And we need to hone our skills and that sometimes we might find things that we're not ever going to be good at. But that's okay. We're going to try anyway. It was just there. Tomorrow's for Yeah, right. And if I told you again, we can try again tomorrow like this. I'm not telling you to stop forever. We can try tomorrow. And so we didn't get to it Tuesday. But today we're out there. And he did her first time through. So you know, she had time to think about it, right? plan it out. Like, oh, like I know, you're really excited to try this. And then it was you could see those moments of like, where she was like focusing, but then she'd start to do it and then she'd get excited that she was doing it and then she'd get distracted and then she'd crack. So it was Yes. It was like celebrate is not that is for even three quarters of the way through or even 99% of the way through the turn. It's whenever you are done with the turn and headed back. So

 

10:04

But that was

 

10:05

nice. Yeah,

 

Collin  10:07

it was just an interesting conversation that I wasn't expecting to have, at that time of Wow. Like you are like, this means a lot to you. And you're taking this really, really seriously. And I can see there's a lot of passion in here, especially for a five year old like this is there's a lot of drive here in your eyes. So we need to kind of, not necessarily handle it carefully, but just try and have an open conversation about that with her. And she took it just fine. I mean, she's five, though.

 

10:39

It was fine. But

 

Collin  10:41

no, I thought it was a very interesting, interesting conversation. That's pretty interesting to have it with her already.

 

10:50

The

 

Collin  10:53

that driving, probably a little bit of stubbornness I mentioned during the rest of character.

 

11:01

Well, I know

 

11:01

right away.

 

Collin  11:05

Yeah, that's pretty cool, though. He got it down, though. So it's also good. Like, that's one of the things too, like, you know, sometimes, like, failing at things is good for you. Because then you have to do it again. Right. And I think that, you know, we get so focused on like, doing it that we forget about like, like you said, like, you don't have to do it the first time. That's, in a lot of regards. That's a very unreasonable expectation to have. But it is our expectation of ourselves. And to some extent, the larger society and a lot of times, like, exactly perfect the first time, like, what,

 

11:43

what? Why?

 

Collin  11:46

I guess not. That's not feasible. Right. You know, sometimes I talk to my kids in class too, because we'll do a, we'll do notes, we'll do thing. Like, alright, time, let's see what you can know from just that. And, you know, just like a little silly quiz, it's nothing like it's just for in the notes, right? It's not like an actual, you know, what I mean? Like, it's just for notes. And, uh, you know, at the beginning of your day, a lot of them like, freak out at me. Like, we be like, Listen, is it? Do I expect you to do this exactly perfect. The first time we've ever done it, right? No, no, it's fine. It's okay, we'll get back to it later. Like, we're gonna practice more, I just want to see how you got after our first little intro into it. Right? I think it's fine. It's okay. Don't worry, calm down. So, they need that reassurance even when they when you get older to write and because it is okay. Like, yes, this is the first time you've done something. But it's okay that you didn't like, do the exact perfect thing ever. Like it's alright, it's fine. And the harder the thing, the more time one should reasonably expect to

 

13:05

take to do it.

 

Collin  13:08

Right. But that that gets lost as well, I think, in some cultural mores, whatever. Like, the amount of time to do something very good. If it's like really hard. They still expect it to be like, oh, right now, like, but but it's really hard, though. So like, Why Why? Well, this is, this is kind of why I don't know, like, we try and be very careful with the kind of language that we use when praising either Lilian or Noah, of being very careful to us, you're really good at that. We we tend to say a lot more of man you work really hard on. I see, you're working really hard to do that and appraising more of the effort and the end result? Because, yeah, right, because we don't want to set that expectation of you only tell somebody Oh, you're really good at that. Well, the next time they try they're not good at that. Right, then all of a sudden, yeah. What does that mean to them? Oh, no. Think about in the classroom environment as well. Right? That kind of languages is important because you need to eat you need to be encouraging about all aspects of what's happening. Not just the final product,

 

14:39

right? Like, Hey, good

 

Collin  14:40

work. today.

 

14:42

You worked well,

 

Collin  14:43

you did a good job. You like that. That kind of stuff is what you got to focus on, and also tried to go along with that mildly tangent. The word easy is illegal in my classroom for sort of the opposite reason Right. So it's outlawed. It's a banned word. You cannot say it for the opposite reason, because people will do this things at different speeds.

 

15:10

Right? Yeah.

 

Collin  15:11

So you go, somebody will be like, Oh, man, that was easy. Maybe for you. Yeah. But if you say that a lot. And if I acknowledge that, how does that make the kid who didn't do good the first time feel? Right now actually, it's like, oh, man, apparently, this is easy. But I didn't do a good job. I had I struggled. So now they, their confidence has waned. From that, and they feel bad about themselves, they feel down. And now they don't want to try because like, well, I couldn't do it. So and so the word easy is illegal. Right? We say things like, Oh, I felt good about that. Or I feel confident about how I handled that. Or like, I did, I think I did. Well, like that kind of mindset is what I'm going for, and not the army. And that was easy, because it makes other people that need more time is are discouraged them and gets into their head, and they feel bad about themselves. So I know that might sound silly, but that's the it's illegal. No, I easy, loud. And it takes after a while after they figure it out. Right? Somebody will be like, Oh, man, that was easy. And the kids will call them after all, you can say that quite like? And like, Oh, yeah, oh, my bad, my bad, my bad. But again, what's that doing? It's focusing attention away from the end result in on the work for the phrase, I felt, yeah, I feel confident about that, look, in that test, that builds some good habits for them as well, of recognizing hard work and where their strengths are, right. And, and so that they have that they can start internalizing a little bit of that versus just saying it's easy, because then Oh, if it always comes easy to me, then I'm not gonna I'm gonna stop trying. And I saw that a lot with students later on, where, you know, math was always easy to them, or biology was all science, right was always easy them. And then they get in a physics class, or a came to class, or an upper level ecology class. And all of a sudden, it's not easy anymore. And they, yeah, right. And all of a sudden, they start to struggle. And it's like, but this has always been easy for me, I don't understand what's going wrong, or what's wrong with me now what's happening and you just start to build it, you can avoid that right? By instead of saying, you know, I'm confident about this work. You still do the work, then you can

 

17:53

doubt about it. Yeah.

 

Collin  17:56

Yeah. And I think my perspective is partially because that was me. 100%.

 

18:01

Right. Like,

 

Collin  18:02

right by like, senior year, they talk about stuff like, oh, man, tell us about your study skills. Like

 

18:09

what studies?

 

Collin  18:11

I don't have them. I listened in class, I take the test, and I get fairly decent grades. So yeah, I don't really have study skills. So that became a problem. When I got to college, right, there was finally that I had that final moment where I was like, I have no idea what's happening, right. Like, all of a sudden, the digit outpaced my ability. And I was like, Well, yeah, I'm stuck. I have not developed any sort of habits or abilities about how to overcome this problem, because I have never faced it before. or been confronted with such adversity. You know, even in high school, when I took like, the higher level classes, like they were still like, they weren't, you know, like, super simple, but they were manageable to where I didn't really have to do a ton, you know, and then I got to colleges, couple classes, like,

 

Aaron  19:15

Oh, no,

 

Collin  19:18

that a bad like, I don't know, what's happened here. But Hi. can't cope with this. Oh, yeah. I, it took me a long time to like,

 

19:30

learn

 

Collin  19:31

those skills that other people have more innately because they've used them longer. Right? I really struggled with like trying to find some sort of methodology that worked for me to be able to study and learn things on my own and apply them in that way that's required at that level like it. It was very hard

 

19:55

to, to do that.

 

Collin  19:58

Because now of course you're out of an investment. I mean, where you would think they would teach you that. But, you know, that's the other thing, right? That's weird about school is like, there's a lot of these innate things that we know now that, that we just sort of tell the kids like study for the test.

 

20:22

But like, how

 

20:27

do you like? How does one study? Like,

 

Aaron  20:30

what does that mean? Like, how do you do it?

 

Collin  20:35

Because not everybody does it the same. And like, so like, that's something I think about too, in classes, you know, like sixth grade, we take a lot of notes in science, because, like, there's no way around it, the information that we need to have

 

20:52

is vast.

 

Collin  20:54

Right. And it's very, it starts getting very detailed. And we need to know like, super detailed things. And so we have to learn about how to take notes, because we use them later to like, we don't take them just for the sake of taking them. We use them, we do some of them. But like,

 

21:09

I can't expect a sixth grader.

 

Collin  21:13

I can't just come to them and be like,

 

21:15

Alright, take notes now. Because they've never done it before.

 

Collin  21:23

Right? They never had to do that. It's never been really expected of them. Until that moment. And my clients class. They don't pay, don't ever do it. It's an elementary school skill. Right? It's just not not, that's not something you generally do. Elementary. So when they get to me, and Middle School tabs, and they're like, Alright, we're taking those today. A lot of them at the beginning of the year, like what is what? Wow. And they have no idea all the things, think about all the ways that you take notes.

 

21:59

Think about that for a minute. Yeah. Think about

 

Collin  22:01

the way that you, Aaron, you think about it, because Colin has a very hyper detailed methodology that he's developed over the course of aeons. Right. But we will come back to college methodology in a minute. But just think about that. If you have to take notes for something.

 

22:24

How do you do it?

 

Collin  22:25

listeners you can play along, right? If you are in a meeting, or something where you have to write down information?

 

22:33

How do you do it? There are many methods

 

22:39

and ways to do this. And many people do it differently.

 

Aaron  22:46

But if you're

 

Collin  22:48

now 12, and someone says do that, you have absolutely no starting point

 

22:54

at all.

 

Collin  22:55

So I have tried to be really cognizant of the fact that like, I have to like, give them away right after sort of tell them how to organize their notes. I have to like they do weird stuff. Like if we take notes, some days, we take notes, we write down like

 

23:11

three things. Right? Some days,

 

Collin  23:15

we write down a bunch of stuff. But there are some kids who at the beginning of the year, they will just like, every day they write on a different piece of paper. Like what, you're never gonna be able to find these things again, ever. And I'll say like, you know, for something, I'm like, okay, we're gonna do some review. So we can use our notes, or we're gonna do this product, and you're gonna need your notes to help you. They're gonna be like, it's spread out over 75 pages, and I can't figure out what we have to talk about, like, how do you organize this? How do you fit it together, leave lots of space around your stuff, don't write really small and cram it on the top because you won't be able to reread it when we need it for our project, like we have talked about these things. It's very weird, right? It's just the thing that are very cognizant of some times and you know, I try to do that because I know when they are get to like seventh and eighth grade, they will have teachers that are going to go, I would take notes today and then that's the guidance they're going to get right like that. So we talked about like, we don't always we, at the beginning of the year is now it's fine, but like, we have a lot about like, Okay, this is what we're going to write down. And here's why. Because this, this is the important thing we need to know this piece right here, right right here. Now there's other stuff. This one under like, in bold in a red circle.

 

24:56

Are the slides that I have the write down are read They're color coded,

 

Collin  25:02

like red slide means write this down. Very good.

 

Aaron  25:07

I like that.

 

Collin  25:08

So it's like a encoded into the thing. And every once in a while, I'll change my mind to be like, now we'll skip this one. But you know, they're still sort of, it's encoded into the color, who would be like, oh, oh, hey, we're gonna write this down. Would you like some sort of definition or some sort of like, important? Like information? Something like that? Like, the key info is that's like, bam, write that down. Okay, now, yeah. But we start somewhere, we're going to learn about

 

25:40

how it works.

 

Collin  25:42

Even even that of like, recognizing that there are key take home points, there are pieces of information that are more important than other, right, that starts to develop that critical thinking habit, even at this stage, where you're just kind of blindly telling them like, hey, forget, you can you can walk out this bathroom and not have written down a single thing. But make sure you write this down, right? Because it does come yes, it does come in handy. Because I think one of the first things that many people try and do with note taking is transcribe, right, I'm gonna write down everything, word for word, to the best of my ability. And that way, I it's all there and they won't have to worry about and then like, that's really over. That's terrible. And I've known people I tried that. I did that for a while, right? Yeah, I was bad choice. And then, then you have to start, you know, in some of it is, it's tough. Because I feel like in a classroom setting, it's a little easier because you start to get to know the instructor isn't know that either. And in some of their their habit, if it's just a one off, it can be a little overwhelming and be like, Okay, I have no idea what this person is going to throw out there. I just have a topic title. And that did.

 

27:01

And I know that

 

Collin  27:02

that really influenced how I took note was, I was by early years of college, we're still the time when several professors didn't have PowerPoint. Right? So it was just legit. They're gonna stand there and shout things at you like garrigan style, right? That's what I was thinking about deer like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna stand here. And I have handwritten notes that I put together 28 years ago. And I keep them in a nice little stack. And they'll talk and talk and they'll look at the paper. And then they'll turn it, and then they'll start talking again. And then you know, after five minutes, they'll look down at their paper, kind of skim it and go, Yeah, I got everything, and then they'll turn it. And that's all it is.

 

27:44

Yeah, like, Oh, no.

 

Collin  27:47

And when you are trying to approach that, it does like, you have to immediately decide or you have to go through that process of figuring out what kind of student Am I going to be in the classroom? Do I just need to Hoover everything down? Or as much as I in right now? Or am I able to start processing a little bit of this? Now there's no right or wrong answer. It's just what some people are better at, and what some people aren't? And because that's going to determine how you're able to take notes, and what you're able to take in, because there is that process of going. Okay, I've got to listen for a little while before I can start taking notes, because I got to figure out what this person say. And then yeah, and then I've got to also be actively listening to what they're currently saying. So I can keep up with my updates, you know, a whole system. You're right, that does. It takes time to develop. And it's so personal. And I think no two people will take notes the exact same way. Even if you get 2020 people in a room, they would all take it differently. You know what? I was always in awe of the people who drew her notes, right? They they would do. I like sketching out things. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like sketch notes. That just boggles my mind of how they're able to do. Yes. So he's impressive. Some of those are cool looking. Like, I wish I could skate to that good that fast to make my make sense. Right. Like I

 

29:23

right. I'm not,

 

Collin  29:25

I can't draw. I do a lot of, you know, like, with doodles with labels, I do that a lot. Like, oh, hey, look, I think one of the key things for me when going through science classes was to try and redraw the, if there's a graph or figure on the, on the PowerPoint or on the board to redraw it as best as I could start making my own notes on it. Because as I was redrawing Yeah, I do that sometimes. For diagrams for stuff. I'll be like, Hey, we're gonna draw this. I'll tell everybody, we're gonna draw this diagram. Then we'll come back and label it. But yeah, no, we're gonna draw this,

 

30:03

it'll be great.

 

30:04

Because that's really good for science,

 

Collin  30:06

right? It's very helpful for, I can't tell you how many times I would be taking a test. And the answer for the test would be like, based off of one of those diagrams. And because I had drawn it, and studied it in my own writing, and my own labels, like, it made a lot more sense. And I was able to bring in a lot more information together. And because you can simplify, I mean, there was even one where it was like, I can either write 14 paragraph, or just redraw the graph that showed this biological response and label it and be done with this essay question. You know, yeah, that's literally the point of a graph to distill information into a visual form. But almost like its job, because I'm such a visual learner. I had to do that. I had to make my note visual with lots of like, you know, I, you know, I remember trying the Cornell Method, I don't know, people typically try and do that one, where they break the page up into three different parts, you know, and there's like, a summary, bow. Yeah, age, and then there's tech. Yeah, that one never jumped for me really. Like you put like notes on one part, like key terms on another and like, summaries it Yeah, I can. My brain doesn't function in that way. For me, that was always interesting method. It was all like post processing method. For me, that was a second step, that if I was really struggling with something, I need to condense more information, that's what I would do, I would try and do something like that. But in the class, because I can't summarize on the flyer I slept like, way too much for me. So you're right, that's a good step two, I quickly got into just as basically an outline, where I would just try and summarize II terms in as few sentences or words as possible as I jumped through, leaving plenty of space between them. Because I would always go back and add and I left plenty of space on the side, too, for drawing diagrams, drawing pictures. It took me a long time to figure out the leave space thing. Because for a long time, I would just cram all my notes like on one piece of paper, right? I would be like, Oh, I could fit. And after a while. It sort of it took me a long time of being like, man, I wrote that down. Where is it? Playing? It just being lost in the sea of pin Oh, right. Like, tends to be like,

 

32:39

haha, perhaps if I left room,

 

Collin  32:46

like I'm an idiot, right? Because I spent years like, cramming all this stuff in like my notes, because I was just like, so afraid of writing the paper. For some reason. This was like a fear of mine, some sort of like weird phobia, all the way to every year get to the end of the class and have just like, pages upon pages upon pages of blank paper at the end of my notebook.

 

33:08

Yeah, like, what?

 

Collin  33:15

every time, every time I've ever felt like, all these giant giant section, two pages that were on top.

 

33:23

And then finally, I was like,

 

Collin  33:25

wait, wait a minute, I instead of using one half the notebook and cramming all my stuff in there,

 

33:34

perhaps

 

Collin  33:36

I could spread my notes out. So I could read that. I was big. That was big, right? I I very slow. Sometimes it's very, my notes, my notes always started. So each class got a notebook, its own notebook. And the notes always started on the next right hand paper, I never would start the paper on the new notes on the back of a previous notes page. So no matter how far down I was on that page, I immediately went over and started a fresh page on the right hand side. The main type I didn't care about that went up at the top, the date in the upper right with whoever was presenting, and then like a little bit of summary of where we were before. And then I just dove right into the notes of doing an outline with graphs and diagrams. I was also a big multicolored pen person where I would have a blink green, blue, red, black, plus a highlighter and a pencil. And on my desk while I was taking notes, so I could eat each heading was was a title was it was a color. I was also late to the colored game, right? I was just a black. I was a one color paying guy for forever. Yeah, very late in my college years. I was like,

 

34:52

wait a minute.

 

Collin  34:54

If I have more than one color pin I can do things in different So like the thing I finally, one time I was done with college Finally, and with my teaching degree, I, I had decided that my color according my color system went to thessaly. Normal notes in

 

35:17

black, right?

 

Collin  35:22

definitions in red, I can't remember what I did with. I had blue and green too. I did homework was written in blue, because I just put that in my notes, I would have it. And it could help me with green. I can't remember what I did with green, but I had I had a purpose that

 

35:43

took a long time to get there. It's very busy struggle. Aaron, what

 

Collin  35:48

about you tear by your note taking? I've seen your notebooks. So I know that that happens.

 

Aaron  35:56

Well, is it so mine really took, like over a really long time to actually develop like a, like a legitimate system. I definitely know in a year in the class, you know, I would just write and draw pictures, relatively, you know, that related to whatever we're talking about. So that way, if I needed to look at it real quickly, and be like, Oh, you know, that's a pyramid like, oh, we're talking about the pharaohs. Okay, next thing. And it wasn't, it wasn't until like much later in college, where I was actually able to have a definitive system. And the one thing that really, really helped me was putting dates on everything. Because I never put dates on any of the pages. And it really sucks because if we go into like, Oh, you know, we're covering chapter bla bla bla bla bla, in that's from like, this week to this week, I was actually able to look back and go, Oh, crap is this page and this page. Now I know, like what I'm doing. When I was teaching, it also kind of fluctuate now with, you know, if I'm doing like history notes, it's a vastly different setup than what I do for my job. Because my job I weirdly like shorthand, not like shorthand shorthand, like, put, like, you know, little bitty blips of things. I kind of, you know, don't write full sentences, which is weird, but I I'm able to read my, my notes for what I need to do. But like, if I'm taking, like history notes on something, I have to do it, like, a certain way where, you know, title play on this day, it feels like monday, wednesday or Friday class, you know, whatever day it was on. And then like the day, then, you know, dive on into it, because majority of my college career was, you know, history professors who were well into their 70s 80s who, you know, never used technology that would take them about 10 minutes of class every morning to get set up with, you know, all this projector work yesterday, why is it not doing it now? Before me? Is that on for you, sir? So, it was I pretty much wrote, like, 99% of my college career, because I didn't really have a choice because all my professors were bold, and, and didn't know how to work anything. So I can't I can't have him. History.

 

Collin  38:41

Ran rambley right there the worst about just like

 

Aaron  38:44

I, I had to pretty much like adapt to my environment, which was, you know, I did this or not survive. They go Hey, what? No, sir, you know, I'm sorry. What are we talking about here? Like, oh, why didn't you write that down? I tried for me. So I had to adapt. which, unfortunately, it took me a long time to be able to come up with a system that worked for me, that I'm able to kind of use, you know, whenever I whenever I was teaching of something like oh, this is how I was able to do this. This is a much easier system. Hey, you know, watch me go. So

 

Collin  39:31

think environment is a good topic there. Because that does really kind of influence. What you have to do because different note taking You're right, the environment in which you're taking them also is important because like you said, it's interesting that you brought up you do it differently for different settings. But that kind of makes sense when you start talking about environment because not every situation requires the same

 

40:00

Touch. Right, right.

 

40:03

And so it's interesting that you bring that up, because I hadn't actually thought about that too much until just right now, but you are right, because like some settings you need like,

 

Collin  40:13

like is every job just like, bullets, details, you don't need sentences, you don't need structure you just need that was the thing. It took me a long time to figure out like, I don't have to write in sentences. And I know it's one word that I immediately cut out of all of my note taking was, is the word thought. Right? I just yeah, writing down. You can drop articles, write articles, you don't need them when you're taking. And it speeds up. Yeah. It really does. But you're right here. And they like different environments, you need different things for like your job you need, like details and facts. So just give me I just need that stuff. Right? just bang, bang, bang bang theory. Whereas in a safe environment like,

 

40:57

like history class, there's a lot of

 

41:01

other

 

Collin  41:03

factors that you're trying to add in your notes, right? You're trying to make connections and have context for some of these things. So you need it to be slightly different. And perhaps different looking. I hadn't considered different, like looking note styles for different environments as well. It's very interesting. Oh, no, I was just gonna say, Yeah, when I'm talking about context, it Yeah. For me, it totally does depend on and I hadn't really thought about that either. So that was a good point, Aaron, of, of my notes, whenever I'm in an educational setting, I'm having to actually learn something. versus if I'm trying to apply or get a story from somebody, like whenever I all biologists, many times I'm asking for a historical perspective about a location or a lot of background information. And I'm kind of listed my notes there are kind of listening between their words and trying to write down more like, ooh, if the way they talked about that relationship with the landowner seems a little contentious, I need to make that I need to make sure I note that or sounds like something happened here in the past, that didn't quite work out, I need to make sure I write that down. And not really a lot of the technical aspects of or things that are being laid out. To your purpose, right, or what you're writing notes for, is going to again, dictate what they're going to look like. When you're when you're done. Nice. We've solved it. Yeah, note taking. Accidental weird topic, tangent first day, note

 

42:57

taking

 

43:00

plane. Oh, podcast.

 

Collin  43:04

That's true. Speaking weird. tangents. I have a bit of I have a question for you. Okay. Both of you. That has arisen from my classroom this week.

 

43:18

Okay, let's set the stage for you.

 

Collin  43:21

Our school participates in a snack program, where a local

 

Aaron  43:28

group brings snacks

 

Collin  43:32

for all the children of the school to have at the end of the day. Right. It's for like, it's mostly designed for our kids that don't are not able to eat when they go home for financial reasons. It's like that, yeah, it's a good enough snack that they can take home or eat it at school and it's kind of, you know, sustains you, right? It's kind of what the point of it is. That's pretty cool. Anyway, the I say that to say it's designed to be healthy stuff, right? It's like lots of fruits and the healthier snacky options, like cold, you know, like vegetable crackers and all that kinda. Anyway.

 

44:19

We had raisins

 

44:22

in our snack

 

44:24

yesterday. Alright, so

 

Collin  44:30

we were reading some of the ingredients for the other stuff. She was talking about that

 

44:35

and we, we were a bit stumped by the ingredients for raisins.

 

44:44

Have you ever looked at the ingredients on a box of raisins? No.

 

44:49

No. So the notice says it just says raisins. That's it.

 

Collin  45:03

So this box contains raisins, right? It says it says ingredients, and then it says, raisins.

 

45:09

Okay. And we got to thinking about that. And we feel that is incorrect.

 

45:18

And I want your thoughts on this.

 

45:24

This has caused quite a stir in my classroom, we don't. Are you thinking that they should say dried grapes?

 

Aaron  45:32

I think yes,

 

Collin  45:33

I think it should take grape. Because that's what the reason is, is that grape is a dried grape. But I could say that too. Yeah. But I think it should take great because a reason. It's not like a thing. Right? It's not like a naturally occurring ingredient like you don't go buy a box like a pizza. And the ingredients don't say,

 

45:59

pizza.

 

46:01

That's the

 

Collin  46:02

end product. The reason is that end product. Right? Not the starting product, not the ingredient you had to start with. So is it a grape? Is it a reason I made a Schrodinger is raising or shrinkers grape joke in class, and some of the kids actually knew what I'm talking about as funny.

 

46:23

As

 

Collin  46:27

as I thought. So I want your input on the great raising controversy. Oh, man, that's because I feel like we kind of feel like it's a misleading, because

 

46:43

it's what it's made out of?

 

Collin  46:48

I mean, my only thought or you think my only thought is it? Is this chicken of the sea? Is this chicken? Or is this tuna? Right? If you put

 

47:02

suggest Yes.

 

Collin  47:05

If you put Yes. Very old, very old reference.

 

Aaron  47:09

You put great on the bottom. I want you to think about

 

47:15

just how confused the general American public would be.

 

Aaron  47:20

If it's a great Are you telling me

 

47:26

that the average American person is unaware that a raising

 

Collin  47:33

is made from a grape? I am indeed I would go out on the limb here. I'm not gonna say a majority of people, but there are a depressingly large amount of people who would do don't know

 

47:53

where raisins come from.

 

Collin  48:02

Just you know, it just I smell a new ad campaign raising companies. Uh huh. Well, we right education campaign through it.

 

48:14

I mean,

 

Collin  48:18

I mean, I guess the Californians were trying to tell us all along saying I heard it through the grapevine, right, then

 

48:28

try to educate it.

 

Collin  48:31

Bring back that. So that we know. And what are your thoughts on the grape? Grape or reason to be that

 

Aaron  48:43

is that has been something that I have never thought about

 

Collin  48:47

that have

 

Aaron  48:48

has never even come close to having like, just like a blip in my mind. So I am I always thought reasons were gross. So I've never gone out of my way to so his reason is just an anomaly to me in the first place. Just never by I guess by having a reason today. So it's, it's just forgets of me so.

 

Collin  49:21

Well, I wonder if part of this conundrum comes from the fact that the race off the top of my head, the reason is the only dried fruit that gets a name change. Right, because the rest of them are just right. Banana, or Yeah, like dried apricot, dried Apple dried banana, dried dates, right,

 

Aaron  49:40

whatever. Like, for some reason.

 

Collin  49:46

The grape to raisin is the only one that warrants a name change. I wonder what that I don't know why Dr. Grape isn't the thing.

 

49:55

That's interesting.

 

Collin  49:58

I'm going to have to look into that. I know we're gonna have to ask that question Moto Z creators we need to figure out where Yeah, I thought was weird cuz like if you see like a, you know, cuz I was thinking like a dried apricot thing it's not gonna say like, whatever it's gonna say apricot

 

Aaron  50:17

or like groups. Okay, hold on. Yeah. I guess the moon also

 

Collin  50:26

also undergoes a name change, doesn't it?

 

Aaron  50:28

Yep stoked? Yeah, it dried white grade. Oh that had its own name a nut, a dry fruit that grows inside a hard shell on some types of trees and bush. Many kinds of nuts can be eaten peppercorn is called dried fruit.

 

Collin  50:49

I also think it's weird that they say things like California seedless raisin. Yes, because it was a seedless grape. Right. Like why you're not going out on a bush and picking a raisin? Right? That's what makes it sound like it is like a raisin tree where you just go

 

51:07

right?

 

Collin  51:10

It's very confusing. Oh, no, wait a minute. I am I have I'm having a panic attack here. Oh,

 

51:22

because here's the thing though. There are quote raisin farmers. And what's it about that for a minute?

 

Collin  51:31

How do you raisin farmer?

 

51:33

They're called raisins. What can Kellogg's do? How

 

51:40

does one farm a reason?

 

Collin  51:42

I don't know. But Kellogg's calm has a get to know a raisin farmer. raisins in your Raisin Bran is that yes, it is. I I just flash of like when you said you don't grow raisin? My Brian went. Surely they don't call themselves raisin farmers. They just be called great farmers, right? Nope. No.

 

Aaron  52:08

No.

 

Collin  52:11

Confusion, right.

 

52:13

Oh, my goodness.

 

52:15

I don't understand why it's

 

Aaron  52:17

so weird.

 

Collin  52:24

I don't understand. But it's it's not just that I was. I was curious by this.

 

Aaron  52:29

So I looked at

 

Collin  52:32

I thought it might just I was wondering if it was just like the raisins that we had. But I went online and did a quick search of raisins. And I looked at their labels from images. And they all say that. They all say just raisins. Now this is this is interesting. This is this is very interesting. Because I was looking I was wondering what that etymology of Did you look at you look at this. I was getting ready to but since you've already found it.

 

53:06

Oh, apparently,

 

Collin  53:08

it's what's called a loan word, though where they take something and they kind of read us what it is from Old French. rezone. Okay, zone means grape in French. And a dry grape is a result. And so it sounds like they just kind of rate like, in French. In France, if you said a reason they would be saying grape. And so does he just took a different grape and applied it to the dried grape. So we're just saying

 

53:45

grape

 

Collin  53:48

for reason, which is kind of weird because raisin means prey when it's a result thick. Which is the actual reason that we would think of dried. This is this way, but they dropped off. They dropped out. So the second is dried. It says they dropped that off. Yeah, they've dropped that off to be actual. Right. Okay, well, that explains why it undergoes the name change

 

54:15

from there.

 

Collin  54:18

It's weird. It's a very odd thing to

 

54:22

borrow from. But okay, weird.

 

Collin  54:31

Yeah. All right. Well, that explains that. That's that's still weird though. That also explains, I guess how you could have a raisin farmer if you're speaking French, and you mean, Ray.

 

54:47

Yeah. But

 

Collin  54:51

don't think the modern French word for grape is that

 

54:56

is it. So

 

Collin  55:00

No, because it's from definitely French. And they in the lower end, you take a word, and you don't translate it. You don't try and translate it. You just reuse it. Yeah, you just keep it similar. Or just keep it Yeah, I mean the same word

 

55:14

over again. That's really bizarre. Yes, I agree.

 

55:33

No, no. Modern French is the

 

Collin  55:36

guest. I just looked up liberalism is grape.

 

55:41

Ah,

 

Collin  55:43

okay. So we found another layer to this puzzle. You can have a re can be a raisin farmer, but only in France. Not in California. Sorry. So you're raising rates are revoked. anyway? insert champagne meme here, right? Like, it's only

 

56:11

called a

 

Collin  56:12

raise. And if it's grown in this region of France. Anywhere else? It's a dried grape. Oh. There we go. So by that logic, by that logic, though, the ingredients label should say grape should because the word means grape. Does grape software should say it because it's a great, but that's

 

56:37

great. That's great.

 

56:38

Yeah. So that said, the label should say grapes.

 

56:42

I feel like this was that's what it contains,

 

Collin  56:45

from inception that they decided. I feel like they started writing this dialogue. And they're like, you know what, actually, let's focus more on the dream. No, this is important stuff right here. This is that question. We all really wanted to know the answer to what we this is a public service that we provide. That's true. listeners, tell us first of all, if you've ever even thought about this, second of all, hello, French listeners. I'm sorry. We butchered your language again. Thirdly, we want to know what you think. Should they change it be ingredients to say grapes? We want to know what you think? Do you think it should stay the same? Do you think they should change it? Or do you not care at all? That's the only one who knows this base? international debate that all you know, thinking that's true for 2021 next year, they're gonna announce the label changing. We're here for it. We're pioneering this movement for accuracy. And ingredient lists. That's a big thing. Right? Right now especially accurate ingredient lists are important. We know where food comes from and what's in there. So here we go. We're adding to the list. issues and grapes. Boom. There we go.

 

58:29

Yeah. All right.

 

58:36

I'm glad I got your opinions on this. This is very important.

 

Collin  58:40

Discussions International, is topics of international intrigue,

 

58:46

and laser beautiful.

 

Collin  58:52

Also, we want to know if how many listeners are out there that are like Aaron that are like get your raisins away from me. I don't even care Stop it. I don't want to think about haste Aaron.

 

Aaron  59:06

So it's a little bit about buy. It's just it's just something that like I see in a gas station or something. And if I'm like hungry, like Oh, man, you know what I really want raisins. No, it's I will find anything else there to go to go get I had raisins in like elementary school. I was like one of those little tiny like old snack things. And that was enough for me to have so I don't know really. It's just kind of something that it just never like, interested me. It just it nothing. screamed out of me. It's like oh, brazen. Like oh, there's none of that. Oh, yeah. You know what you need raisins. Like No, it was this. Oh, You know, what it? I don't know. It was just something that was like oh, yeah, never. Never liked the taste. I never like texture. Like, oh, you can you know, try to sell me on that it's a grave all you want. Yeah, whatever. It's it's not a grave it is you know a reincarnated you know,

 

1:00:21

small potato I don't care. It's just something that never really like jumped out at me to have

 

Collin  1:00:28

that's fair. I will agree that raisins have real strong like elementary school vibes right? Like I have a really strong

 

Aaron  1:00:40

little small little small boxes. boxes. Yeah, we got for snack time. Nope, don't want it. don't hear from it. Don't Yeah, it was

 

Collin  1:00:50

did it bother you that they were always just stuck to the box?

 

Aaron  1:00:54

Yes. Okay, let's have like, you couldn't get him out. I guess it was like this gym. That was still kind of like attached to it sort of like that, like, you know that getting like calm. I'm out. I just did it. So I never, ever joined it. never wanted to enjoy it. Never want to join again. I'm fine with never having great or having sort of thing ever again. That's right.

 

Collin  1:01:29

So follow up question. Is that the

 

Aaron  1:01:35

only dried fruit that you

 

Collin  1:01:37

don't like? Or do you not like any fruit at all?

 

Aaron  1:01:41

I like dry, fried, fried, dried, dried bananas. Those are bomb. True, I used this. I could snack on those, like all the time and be fine to

 

Collin  1:01:54

just have a much bigger quality though. So that's kind of a different thing.

 

Aaron  1:01:58

Like the season stuff or season stuff like that stuff to me is like oh, essentially. Okay, I can I can get behind this. Yeah, dry and apples. Also pretty good. I like those. What else? What else? What else? Those are kind of the only two that I will I the past few times we've gone to the grocery store, I have gone and picked up some sort of bag because that's also what I use for a little snag there because there's days where I'm here at work. And I'm literally here like in my house. Yeah, I your time and so like I don't leave. And so like, you know, I kind of want something healthy to snack on and it's not gonna be no. Good. So I'll do that. I think I still have some bananas in there. Also. Those are the only kind of real two that I'll be like, Oh, yeah. Even like people have like a little party things like out here though. Those still tastes good.

 

Collin  1:03:03

Do you pick out the raisins in trail mix? It's like raisins, peanuts m&ms.

 

Aaron  1:03:14

It has been so long since I even had trailmen that I can't give you an answer. Okay, cuz that's an avoided

 

Collin  1:03:20

because there's racism.

 

Aaron  1:03:23

That's not when I was younger. Absolutely. Like, going on those little hikes with, you know, you all and dad to like, yes, that like those places, that's 100% I don't know really like the, I think if I'm going to like a gas station or something to get some sort of snack. Or, you know, especially like baseball when I used to coach it would always just be like a bag of seeds. Never be a trail mix or any of that stuff. But I I it's just been so long since I've gotten trail mix. I can't tell you like what I or how I would eat it now does are just endless possibilities because I can be like this is great. I never want this again. So that's just that just kind of me really. There we go. So follow up question. More tangential

 

Collin  1:04:25

relationship when you I haven't done this in a long time, because I haven't gone anywhere in like a year. Right? But right up to the gas station snack. So if you are on the road, nice.

 

1:04:46

I want to know

 

Collin  1:04:48

what is the go to gas station snack that you try to go for? Do you because like it's hard sometimes because like they're you know Some of them are wildly different and but like nowadays, there's like a lot of the similar things in there. So like, what is if you were having to sustain yourself on a small snack arena from a gas station?

 

1:05:15

What?

 

Collin  1:05:17

What is that? What does what does that look like?

 

Aaron  1:05:21

Well,

 

Collin  1:05:21

I won't call the answer to after this, but I want to.

 

Aaron  1:05:25

So, I mean, if we're talking about, like, straight up food wise, you know, it's got to be something for Kwik Trip. Yeah, that is, that is purely a thing that I have learned from Oklahoma, Oklahoma. If I'm going somewhere, it's got to be some form of quiktrip. Just because, like, they just have all those different possibilities. Of You know, if I want food now, like, especially like when we recently just went up to Missouri last weekend, we stopped at a gas station, and it's mostly just like, a healthy little like coffee drink. And like some gum, and maybe a bag of seeds. And that can you know, but no, when I first started college, it was literally like, new. You redoes urine. Yes. Yeah. You don't like See?

 

Collin  1:06:28

There's sunflower seed. No, I'm not really into that. garden is actually a crow.

 

Aaron  1:06:38

Yeah, no. Yeah, just give a little thing of range flavored flowers eat up and then then you're good to go.

 

1:06:47

Rising.

 

Aaron  1:06:51

Yeah, like the Starbucks got these little like, French Vanilla drinks or some sort of stuff that we get, or that I get asked if I'm going on a long road trip. Yeah. Yeah. Know that. Yeah. Gas stations have those little like Starbucks, like glass models?

 

Collin  1:07:10

Yeah. Oh, the frappuccinos Okay, I got Yeah,

 

1:07:13

sorry, though. I can go like we go to you, man. What is it? Yeah.

 

Collin  1:07:22

Um, you don't have that here in Missouri.

 

Aaron  1:07:25

Just Just go there. And, you know, pick up whatever. Those little like little they're like the little flavor like buffalo sticks. Oh. Those are awesome. Those were definitely a must. But yeah, like when I was in college, going somewhere with my best friend. It was literally Mountain Dew. Doritos. You know, bags, you know, mountains of m&ms things like that. Which we? Which of which we'll go through pretty every consistently. Nowadays since I actually take care of my body. It's, you know, lighter things. If I have a giant think of water bottle, giant water bottle. Now two miles down the road. I'll probably need to go to the bathroom. So

 

Collin  1:08:27

they're exactly

 

1:08:31

Other than that, and it's kind of really bad.

 

1:08:34

right column.

 

Collin  1:08:35

Do you have a do you do this? actually still or no? First of all, do you get snacks from a gas station ever?

 

1:08:41

Oh, yeah.

 

Collin  1:08:42

Every now and then. We will. Okay, we're running in and mine is a nick produce and a snicker.

 

1:08:50

Ah ha.

 

Collin  1:08:51

I could use like nice. Megan's Erie Galilee like a Dr. Pepper in a Slim Jim. And I'm like, hey, go weeping in the corner.

 

1:09:05

That's true. Like

 

Collin  1:09:11

I'm surprised and also impressed that that's our go through. I like it. I like it. I'm proud of this. I get behind that. There we go.

 

1:09:19

What are you doing?

 

1:09:21

Because I find I find Slim Jims. Like, in like, so revolting. He's like, yeah,

 

Collin  1:09:29

it's one of those comfort things, right? If you had it's one of those deals, like if you had one with your kid, it's just like, Ah, yeah. Well, like if you've never had before, it's not something that you probably want to have in your life. Right? Right.

 

1:09:42

I can't help but think the jeopardy.

 

Collin  1:09:46

Yeah, the Macho Man Randy Savage. Oh, oh, ye right. Like my perceptions of him. I mean, it's still correct. They're still the same color. So it's Fine. It's not wrong. That's true. Interesting. Yeah, I used to also like I used to just like straight up. So I haven't done this a long time. And I do, we should probably put this on the list of things to talk about the change in the gas station in our lives because it has become a very different experience from when I was a child. Right? So we're gonna have to add gas station nostalgia to our list, right by the mall that would go together nicely. But, uh, yeah, I tried to, like when I was a kid and actually do this. So like, if you go on like long road trips.

 

1:10:37

And you like,

 

Collin  1:10:38

stop and get snacks, whatever I try to, like, get things from slightly different, like family. So like, I do sometimes want like a candy bar. It's usually like a Snickers or something. And some kind of like cracker, or perhaps chips. And sometimes some sort of like beef jerky. Right? Like, kind of encompassing. Like those families. They're trying to get something like that. And usually so dad when I was a kid, definitely coke like, all the time. Sometimes now it's different things. But like, yeah, I try to get like, mixed up like, I want something like, sweet. And then I need something that's crunchy in my life. Like I have to have that. Right. So it's like checks or like, some crackers or something that's like really crunchy. I like to.

 

1:11:36

So that's what I used to get.

 

Collin  1:11:38

Because, again, gas stations used to be a simpler affair. And so

 

Aaron  1:11:42

now I will I will say, what I

 

Collin  1:11:47

sometimes also m&ms Oh, it's strong. That's a strong urge sometimes.

 

Aaron  1:11:51

McCarran there's a there's a gas station on highway 75. It's not it's not a traditional gas station in any sense of the word. Now, it's not like what they do they sell gas and like. Yeah, it's not like bikinis where they have, like, you know, it's a mall that has a gas station on it or something. Um, and there's a place there's a place called Mondays on highway 75 heading north of bartlesville. And that that place would like, have these mean like, cheese, tater tots, and like cheese sticks. And it's like, it was like a good old, like, trucker gas station, like through and through kind of thing. And it was just like, you know, gas station II stuff. Nothing ever healthy. Like, here's a monster gears. You know, here's, what's the other big thing like jalapeno bites that they have that cook fresh.

 

Collin  1:13:05

Yeah, a lot of fresh air quotes, right? Like,

 

Aaron  1:13:07

a lot of a lot of this stuff during during my time when I was alone. Didn't didn't have anyone didn't really have time to cook. It would be like there. because it'd be you know, I'd go to go to school rundown to practice their game, and then drive home and, you know, either got the acid, Cherokee casino, really good burgers or Monday's gas station. So you got you got to take your pick of what you have what you wanted. And that was usually mine. So say, yeah, just again,

 

Collin  1:13:44

I think when we do revisit gas stations later, we can explain the American truckstop gas station to our international listeners, because Oh, boy, let me tell you, that's a zoo. But ever since I was young, I have been very put off by gas station food. There are a strong stigma attached to that for me. And so I'm like, Oh, yeah, stop and get like actual food at the gas station. My brain goes, Oh, no, don't do that. I have a very like, negative association with that, for whatever reason. I don't think I ever had a particularly negative experience with it. But for some reason. I don't know if it was on my friends or something. But I have a very negative connotation associated with food from a gas station. So inaccurate is that maybe especially now in time of the modern gas station where there's like, it's like a grocery store in there. Absolutely. It's different, but like, from when I was a kid, like you want this gas station sandwich? No, No, you don't. It's not good.

 

Aaron  1:15:00

gate gas station burritos were always frowned upon. Yes. 100%

 

Collin  1:15:08

are those hot dogs that have been in that roller for a very suspiciously long amount of time?

 

1:15:12

Yeah. Yeah, guess what one of those she also frowned upon ever never get get sushi? That's just the hard way. Oh, gosh.

 

Aaron  1:15:23

Oh, no agree. Trip everyone. Bye dude sushi. I was like, Yeah, my guess is that bad? And yeah, I was sick pretty much on like Oklahoma City to, like Missouri turns out it was. Yeah, it was it was. But it's also kind of like a, like a very unique culture behind gas stations. I know I did, especially coming home from football games when I was coaching. You know, that would be like the highlight of the trip, even though we got the snot kicked out of us, you know, 70 to nothing. Like, Oh, no, coach, we're gonna get stuck with the gas station. Yeah, we're gonna stop and and, and weirdly enough, I know, a lot of the kids that I coach in my area that was their only like, real source of food for the night. And so yeah, especially

 

Collin  1:16:16

in rural areas, like where else you can? Yeah, absolutely.

 

Aaron  1:16:19

You know, I mean, like, yeah, it's so like, you know, seeing the excitement on kids, like when we pull up to a quick trip, you know, me, you know, not coming from a state that doesn't have quick trips Really? Or knew how much like how big they were down here. I was like, Why are these? Well, that's gross. Like, why are these kids excited? And I'm like, oh, because it's Kwik Trip and there's nothing else to do this. I got you there we go. So little things like that I always enjoyed or thought that it was it was just unique experience with us by coach we're gonna stop at a gas station I'm like You're gross Get away from me. Then just seeing the amount of food that some of these places had like whoa, that's I didn't know gas stations had all that and then checking up on with with Lucky's is it called Becky's contacts. I have knowledge No. Expert. It is.

 

1:17:19

Yeah, it has, like a cult following.

 

Aaron  1:17:24

Yeah, if you want to do shopping, plus get groceries plus getting gas. But as weird as that sounds,

 

Collin  1:17:33

I mean, it's again, very different from our childhood and we will probably need to revisit this in greater detail later.

 

1:17:39

But

 

Collin  1:17:41

hey, there we go. last topic of the night before we sign off because he's getting ready. I want to hear about the Cherry Blossom Festival Aaron

 

Aaron  1:17:48

report. Oh, yeah. Um, so it was actually Well, what's the word for it? So it was it was while they're not Memorial Foundation were so our little event they had a copious amounts of different things that you co signed up for. They had like a Wilson's Creek battlefield Expo. They had the great grandchildren of Robert E. Lee, and Ulysses S. Grant, that showed up and talked about, you know, their ancestors and during their time in Civil War as hard as was you you donated $25 per ticket for breakfast. And you got to sit in all that money went to the Laura Ingalls Wilder Foundation, which they're working on like restoring the Laura, the Wilder home in Mansfield. So we we did that. And then our speaker, Allison angles, Allison Evans and right. She She played a character on the TV show in the 1970s. And she she wrote a book and I was expecting kind of like, oh, but here in Marshfield, Missouri, like this. This lady was poppin she was just a vibrant she'd like answered like, every single question. It was something that I was 100% not expecting. You know, she talked about a TV show. She talked about her book. She talked about her experience as a child, actor, actress growing up like in the 1970s. And like, her character in the show, Nellie oleson. She like is like a total, you know, not nice lady. She's you know, she's kind of Like the antagonists throughout the whole series, until kind of the the latter end where it's like, oh, you know, I was just lonely need a friend the whole time. But like, the the lady that played her that's not like her. Like that's not her personality. She's like a really sweet heart lady. She's just very kind and she wrote a book on kind of where you can kind of consider like the Joffrey effect of like, you know, the kid that played Joffrey in Game of Thrones, he's like, like, the nicest kid in the world, but everyone thinks he's like a huge like, D bag. It's a character please. I promise I'm nice.

 

Collin  1:20:38

Tom Felton from Harry Potter right the guy Draco

 

Aaron  1:20:42

so it's it's his whole life and but she she showed up like we had breakfast she talked for like an hour. And then we went over to the one of the center's there in Marshfield. And she we show we got a picture with her. She signed, we bought her book. She signed it, we were asked questions a lot busier than I expected. There's the there's one kid that was from the Christmas story that it was the kid that like got his tongue stuck to the pole. Oh, yeah. He was there. He's like the comedian. There's a bunch of like other people, the festival itself, as cold and miserable as it was, you know, we were there. And they were still kind of like setting up. And so we we actually didn't do the whole festival the entire time. We kind of just went there for Friday, hung around for a little bit with all those signing events and everything. And then we pretty much just spent the rest of the time like in Springfield at dad's house. So we didn't you know, participate a lot a lot. Because it was cold. That's true. Spectacular weekend. Yes. But as far as like the some of the show you want to do she got a kick out of it. She It was just something for her because she's a huge, you know, Laurie knows all their fan. Some people use the term fan girl, which she 100% is she she loves the book, she loved the TV series. And so we're trying to you know, get something going to go to the while their house up. And so that's about right. An idea. Yeah. And so like that it's you know, I don't want to say it's like a pilgrimage staying with Bill versioning. So you definitely got to have a bonnet for that one. Yes, which she has. But yeah, that's just something that she just loves to do. And something that she was really excited for it. I was just excited, because I had no idea what I was expecting. And it was because I was I was like a famous actress in the 70s none of you know who I am. But there was like over 100 people that showed up. And like, it wasn't as awkward as I thought it was gonna be. And the actress who played this person was good, very Yeah, it was was very, like, you know, accommodating, she answered all the questions. And there's very few other people from the TV show but we're really here. It was it was just it was just fun. It was something I was never expecting to do with anything so I had a blast as well. And I know to be 100% had a ball so okay,

 

Collin  1:23:53

but it was really successful.

 

Aaron  1:23:55

Yes, and then we spent most of the rest of the weekend like shopping and hanging out hanging out with dad Joby drove the tractor there's a picture I'll find calm I sent you a snapchat you haven't opened up jets in like two weeks you jerk but

 

1:24:13

was yeah wow called out

 

Aaron  1:24:16

Yeah, he didn't do Yeah, but yeah, so like she she was sitting so dad dead typical like oh, I gotta go mow the lawn and like you guys want to help and Toby's like sure to have like, Oh, I don't want a tractor. He's like, why

 

1:24:35

the tractor and got PTSD for mowing the lawn wrong all those times.

 

Aaron  1:24:41

It was as a dad that put it in you know, low gear and Shelby go around the the yard she she had a blast and it was something else like to drive a tractor. Oh my gosh. Okay. It was really fun. So She had fun. I had fun. I spent way too much money shopping. So it's not really having some fun. Even but it was it was a fun weekend just to get away and do something that I would never did in 1000 years expect that I would did. Oh, good.

 

Collin  1:25:16

God, it was successful. Did you were there in fact, cherry blossoms?

 

1:25:21

a fake one? Oh, no. Yeah. So we were in the, like, the town like,

 

Aaron  1:25:33

not Town Center. That is definitely what it's called. The like, every town sort of has one where it's like, people come to like, hang out or Civic Center. That's not right. They have like pictures. And they have like, fake ones posted. But yeah, there was no blossoming anywhere to be. Did they? I wonder if they got got during that big freeze a couple weeks ago?

 

Collin  1:26:02

Yeah, probably it was all like nice and high. And then that day that it's node and was for like froze overnight for two days. That might have done in the cherry blossoms this year. But

 

Aaron  1:26:14

yeah, so we we went we went to the town square. gala and that around there and then we went to the Civic Center place, walked around there for a little bit, autograph pictures taken. And then we drove to Springfield, went to the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame. drove around downtown Springfield for a good chunk of it and then that was all Friday or Saturday and then like yeah, Saturday and Sunday. We pretty much just hung out. Oh, yeah. Saturday we we just spent time just hanging out. We did some shopping. And then we went and left Saturday morning so Sunday morning that's finally responding. My Snapchat. Ruined St. Gallen.

 

1:27:10

Oh, dear.

 

1:27:15

Oh, wow. Oh, goodness.

 

Collin  1:27:23

Yeah, probably not gonna start now. Since I've had it for this long.

 

1:27:27

I think it's good.

 

Collin  1:27:33

Well, we have wandered to and fro as usual, as we do, I hope the weave, but as Gandalf says, not all that wander are lost. There's a threat there. For sure. For some that we may never know. And with that, on that terrible disappointment.

 

1:28:00

Love you guys.

 

1:28:03

Let me do anything right.