panini press limbo

Brandon doesn’t like capitalism in his hot sandwiches. Collin is on a hiring spree. The late 80’s were a heck of a time.

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weird, people, brown, mcdonald, dog, good, happening, sandwich, dan quayle, sandwich maker, person, day, feel, talking, 80s, drive, exist, sitting, leave, walking

SPEAKERS

Brandon, Collin

Collin  00:04

Welcome to Oh, brother, podcast of three brothers trying to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon, Colin, and Aaron. On this week's show, panini press limbo. Hall. Hi.

00:20

Oh, I sound Why am I sound weird? What's going on? What's going on? It'll like this. What it sounds like, Okay,

Brandon  00:25

well, I don't know how to break this to you. But you sound just like you always do to me right now. So I don't

00:34

know what you have done. It's just me having a break from reality. Okay, that's fine. That's fine. As long as one of us as long as we know what's happening.

Brandon  00:41

Yeah, I don't think he's not any different than he does any weirder than normal.

Collin  00:49

Yeah, about that. Well, anyway, one of my one of my all time favorite jokes. That was from Top Gear, was when they would say it would usually be Jeremy giving some long lead up to how they had to do this long, arduous thing the next day, and then he had to leave, you know, super early in the morning and blah, blah, blah. It was like, to the next day at exactly 717 We Oh, yeah. I always knew it was coming. But it was always funny of like this huge buildup, it was all this like, Oh, it's this huge thing. It's a big deal. It's so you know, don't be late than promptly at 737 The next morning.

Brandon  01:35

When he says like, yeah, like 722 and a bit. Yeah. Yeah. Just

Collin  01:45

always makes me laugh. And I think about that whenever I have days like today, where it's just like, I'm always running, like, a little bit behind. I just have Clarkson narrating. Like, yeah. At 342. And a bit, I set off, right. I was gonna

Brandon  02:01

say, yeah, the behind the scenes joke here, listeners is that we started at three or 752. Yeah, got it. Just to cut you in here on the behind the scenes job that's happening here. Our official start time today. 752. And a bit.

Collin  02:27

Which means perfectly.

Brandon  02:30

Precisely what it means to write.

02:33

Yes, exactly. Exactly. Me and I. So the past couple days have been very intense for me. Very intense. And I have been trying to not become overwhelmed with like, the insanity of my schedule, because we did have somebody hired for the mornings.

Collin  02:56

They lasted a day and a half day, lots of things that go into that. Onew. Fortunately, I have hired somebody for the afternoon. So that's fine. I'm still doing mornings. But we can do a little consultation with businessy kind of person. And they were like, yeah, how are you feeling with like, if you were at max capacity with staff right now? Would you still be turning people away? And we were like, oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. We'd still be turning away. And then Twitch they responded with Well, it probably means you need to hire about 50 50% More people than you have currently. And I was like,

03:35

Baby, no, I think

Collin  03:39

put that into perspective at the time was that we were talking with that person. We had 10 people. So we needed five more. And we were already down three. So

Brandon  03:47

that is hiring. Like you're like No, I feel like that's seven,

Collin  03:52

seven people. So what we're doing is we kind of were just like, You know what, let's just let's just see what happens. We're gonna see what happens here. And man, the past two months have been a complete and utter slog to get people to apply I mean, there was some times where we were like, well we'll put this up and see what emails we get in a week and that kind of thing. I don't know what Juju is happening out there in the world. But we use indeed to post our job ads after 20 applicants have hashtag not sponsored Yeah, so we use we use a schmuck beats me good deed

Brandon  04:33

so make clear to listeners as well. We use it whenever you want. I just want to know what Yes, they are unless they want to exactly see

Collin  04:44

feedback and oh brother anyway, so we they have changed their system now to where you post job ad and with it once 20 people apply. They close it out and go if you want this to stay open and either redo the job ad or pay us money and we'll keep it open longer. I get it, they have to make money, whatever. And we were not filling this 20 With for like a month or more the past five days, we have been filling it out almost every day. Hearing. So job ad, usually at night, by the next evening, indeed like, yeah, you have 20 people, you should be done. So this is this is good. This is good. However, our our job application and tracking and management system was not set up for 20 applicants a day. So like, keeping track of where everybody is in the process of scheduling interviews is, you know, me doing the interview?

Brandon  05:59

Yeah, that's tough. It's tough.

Collin  06:04

Yes, yeah. It's it's hard. So especially when it's like, well, yeah, sure. I mean, I'll just schedule like four interviews tomorrow. And then you're like, oh, yeah, but like, each interview also takes like, half an hour, sometimes if a person is really chatty, so I have to save time for that. So I'm just going to, you know, make sure that's budgeted, and that's in the schedule. But now, but also the way I am, if I do back to back to back to back to back to back. I am I'm beat by the I, I keep track of anything. So it's like now I'm gonna have space. Well, now if I'm like, Okay, well, I'm putting 15 minutes in between or 20 minutes in between. Well, then, all of a sudden, these four interviews are taking me like, two hours. Yeah. to do is I'm putting them across other stuff. So it's just like, it never ends. Yeah, that's tough. That's a that's crazy. No,

Brandon  07:01

I don't know what's the first first tantalizing glimpse of actual fall was like, Oh, I know, apply for a job. Like,

Collin  07:11

wait, wait. No, I think this is kind of this is kind of it or we have been getting more applicants that well. So here's, here's the one thing that we have, I think we can tease this back to. We use to job titles. dog walker slash pet sitter and pet sitter slash dog walker, I want you to get you tell me which one you think does better.

Brandon  07:44

To me, it makes no discernible difference. So I'm gonna just, yes, the dog walker slash pet sitter.

07:53

But now why, why would you say that?

Brandon  07:57

Because I feel like the only reason I did this way I feel like it's a connotation with dogwalker is different. Right. I don't know why exactly my brain process that way. But I

Collin  08:13

think like, I just think that that one,

Brandon  08:20

I don't know. I don't really know why I can't really put a finger on it currently. Right. She like, like the connotation of like, dog walking, and then also pet sitting like, I feel like dog walking implies

Collin  08:33

more. Like, I don't know, like,

Brandon  08:39

I know what that means. I know what that entails. Right? That makes sense to me. Like dog walk. I'm gonna take a dog for a walk. Right? petsitting? A little more vague, right? I don't know exactly what that entails. I don't know exactly the connotations of that job. And so I think it would like if it's dog walking first. You're familiar with that went through that. Oh, yeah. I know what that means. Boom. Right.

Collin  09:04

These are my thoughts. Exactly. Because this is what has actually happened. So as soon as we started, got more job ads that say, dog walkers last pet sitter. It's the dog walker. That's kind of catching people's attention. Now with this said, don't have a whole lot of like, dog walking things right now. We are trying to grow and we are getting multiple inquiries, right? So that's, that's where we need to slash want to be growing. It's just like, I can't hire everybody for that position. So we put like when I do petsitting slash dog walking, that it's a trickle and I think it is the fakeness of it. Also. Pet Sitting I think in some people's minds, maybe more involved like dog oh, I'll just walk a dog today. I'll just I'll just just go do this. Versus petsitting.

09:56

Like,

Collin  09:58

what all does that mean? And is a bit more vague, and it sounds like more stuff. Yeah, it sounds like more stuff. You've never seen a

Brandon  10:07

pet sitter in a movie. But you've seen those dudes walking like six dogs at a time. Yeah, right.

Collin  10:14

Exactly. Exactly. And so so it does have this, this connotation of it's more familiar, it seems more light. Right? It seems a little bit more airy. I think for some people. And it's amazing. The very first question that I asked, well, the very first question I asked everybody, before I start asking questions is do you have any questions for me? That's, that's, that's a great place to start. But my second question that I ask is, Tell me, can you please tell me what you know about our business? And what we do? This is this has given me wonderfully illustrious answers such as who? Who are you again? That was? Yeah, that was my personal favorite, where I was, like, kind of like sweet. to Now, with the dog walking first, the majority of people who call and when I asked him this question, say something like, Well, I know you go over to people's houses to walk dogs. And like, I don't know, like, maybe, maybe take care of them if the clients have to go. Versus if it's the other way around. They go, Well, I know you traveled to client's homes while like they're on vacation, and I'm not sure whether you You stay there while they're way or not. So like it is attracting a whole different subset of people

11:36

in the world,

Collin  11:37

that like pet sitting slash dog walking, and it's just it's the exact the ad is the exact same. The exact same ad all the ad copy, it's copy pasted, literally nothing different. It's just the title. dog walker sets Pet Sitter 20 people apply for that day. Pet Sitter says dog walker, bad? No, no, that's not what we want to do. It's like, Ha, this is weird, because now I'm worried of like, I'm getting applicants. I'm doing all these interviews, I'm scheduling in person interviews, I could very well likely over the next month onboard at least three people. But like, now I have to make sure that their expectations are appropriate. Of like, of what their our actually going to be doing. We do dog walks or we do we do absolutely what you will expect them to do a dog walk.

Brandon  12:27

We'll be walking a dog also be

Collin  12:29

doing a lot of pet sitting. But like that's fine. Like we'll just stay with me. Other stuff too.

Brandon  12:36

But there will be walking. We'll be walking,

Collin  12:41

I promise you won't be walking. You're also going to have to scoop some litter and bring in the mail and set up trash and switch all the lights. And anyway, it's fine. Just like Focus. Focus is no tricky, though. You know, it's a lot of weirdness. Yeah, yeah. That's interesting. Really consider that before

13:06

that, that would be a thing that would happen. Right? Yeah. And I know, I haven't calculated that into my thought process here of like, yes.

Brandon  13:19

Those terms have different meanings. And,

Collin  13:23

you know, people respond to them differently. So this has been, this has been a very enlightening last couple of days. I'm exhausted, which is enlightening.

Brandon  13:41

It sounds horrifying. But you know, it's,

Collin  13:44

it's just, you know, so anyway, I've all sorts of weird stuff. But like, you know, I did I actually, I actually did my very, because I typically don't do this because I people give references I have, I've called references like, once before, but like, what does that person going to tell me? You only put a reference on there if the person is going to be glowing? Right. Like they're going to they know, they're going to be a reference for you. I

Brandon  14:09

mean, yeah, that's true. You know.

Collin  14:12

And, and then and legally, like you can, you can get into some gray areas of what you can and cannot ask that person like, it's it's not an open book.

14:23

Yeah. And

Collin  14:26

like, when I worked with the Department of Conservation, the old The only thing they could tell, they could tell that, no, they could only tell a potential person one thing, if you put them as a reference, first off, they, you as a supervisor, were not allowed to take those phone calls. They rerouted them to HR. Okay, so now, now, and all HR will do is say, Yes, this person worked here, January 2023. To march of January 2023.

Brandon  14:59

Yeah, that's how the If schools are too, right, they don't really like they won't. Like if you put the school down like your previous employer, whatever, that's all they say like, yes. Like, did they work there? Yes. Okay, now if it's like a personal reference, right, because I've had people call me for like, I've been put down. It's like a personal reference, stuff like that. And they call it these ask you like, oh, well, what was it like working with this person? Blah, blah? Yeah, that's different. Like,

15:27

the, yeah, the if you call it your employer, that's all they can say is? Yes, they did, in fact, work here. Yep. And so, so I, so it was a little weird, because this person who applied actually worked for another company like ours, in Florida. So I was like, ah, like, I actually do have some questions, because I want to know, what kind of what did this person do. So interestingly, they had the he started working for one person, that person then sold the business to another person. And the person who applied put down both of their numbers. So now, I have a personal reference, who was a former boss, and I have his existing boss for his company.

Collin  16:20

So I could ask them, I could ask all my questions that I wanted to like. And so I write, I was like, Ah, you're no longer in the company. You're no longer the boss, but you were his boss for the company that you sold. Right? So I did ask two questions of the current boss of I said, Did this person actually work for you? And then I asked, if you have the opportunity to, would he be eligible? would this person be eligible to be rehired? I didn't say, would you rehire this person? I said, Yeah. Would this person be eligible to be rehired? That's code for? Did you fire them? Yes, it is. So they said, I said, Absolutely. And then the other person, I could ask some other questions of like, what did they do? How did they perform? Did they like the updates kind of stuff? So we'll see. We'll see what happens from that. But that was kind of was like, Oh, this isn't? This is a first for us. We've never had somebody apply. Who has previous experience working for another company. Hold though. Both both good and bad. I suppose we had interesting wrinkle. Yes. So I was like, oh, fascinating. And then, and then my other brain kicked in. And I was like, should I interview these two people and ask them about how they transition? There is no time for that right now. Um, let me just put this on my note card, or

Brandon  17:50

maybe not, but maybe just one of them. Weird, right.

Collin  17:54

Wow, that's good point. Like, how was this relationship? I don't know. But I was very much like, oh, it's kind of story is there by us. I want to

Brandon  18:01

know my guess.

Collin  18:06

It's got to kind of do something.

18:12

Anyway, that

Collin  18:13

was so that's, that's where we've been? I've been just chipping away at this. And they had it's been so weird. Getting all sorts of people with just crazy. asks, now. What? Like, what what are they asking you to do? Oh, well, just like weird things that come up of like, Oh, hey, we just moved here from California and I actually am moving a catamaran business from California to Missouri. I'm going to be going back and forth over the next month, I need you to possibly take care of my dogs. I may or may not be here on the days that you're here because I'm not exactly sure of my travel schedule. But just go ahead and, you know, still show up anyway. When When are you leaving?

Brandon  19:04

How many catamarans are actually in Missouri that need transporting? That is my actual question here. Right. What? How does this business model translate from a coastal state to the Midwest? What I on earth is happening? I don't I don't have so many questions, right. Like is, is, you know, Taneycomo suitable for catamaran thing like I don't know. And then I guess I get so I get the only thing I can think of is like they'll take your boat from Taneycomo to Stockton to Lake of the Ozarks to Bull Shoals to Beaver to try to think of the right Table Rock, obviously, to harm the tear and Ah, you, Truman. Is that a lake?

Collin  20:05

Yes. Truman. Truman. Yes. Yes.

Brandon  20:07

I'm running out of lakes that I know of in Missouri. That's Yes. So there's probably more but I don't only has like five on it, though, you know,

Collin  20:16

I got the impression that these people were in the like, rehabbing rear end repair business. Ah, fixing the boat fixing fixing said badass. So, I, I as a market for that. There's lots of boats about so, yes. So this was very weird because I was like, okay, like, when When are you leaving? And then we're like, in two days. And I was like, oh, okay, like, that's fine. And then all the people out love Yaks. Now all of a sudden, it's like I like do I actually have availability to come over two or three times a day for the next month. Like, okay,

Brandon  21:00

I have ability to get to your house today. That's the actual

Collin  21:05

oh my gosh, that's the other people. Oh, yeah. I've just straight like, I had a guy. I don't know a people. person called me and said, Hey, do you tell me about your services? Okay, yeah. Here's what we do. Oh, that's cool. It's cool. It's cool. So like, what? Like, if I needed you, if I needed you to start like, tonight? Would that be a problem? And I was like, yes. It is. Seven, seven o'clock. Right now it is tonight. What do you

Brandon  21:39

what do you mean? Tonight is now?

Collin  21:42

It is tonight. It's like two people who call on a Friday and they go, Oh, I just need you for for Saturday and Sunday. And I go, Well, you mean tomorrow? Yeah. You mean in

Brandon  21:53

seven hours from now?

Collin  21:57

Yeah. And I was just like for the person who called about could you do like tonight? I said, No, no, we cannot do that tonight. Best of luck with your search.

Brandon  22:10

Like your neighbor. Bye.

Collin  22:12

Oh my gosh, I technically like sure I could have rushed over and done it and gotten ready and all this stuff. But like, that's not a good fit. Like we know that's not a

Brandon  22:23

precedent to set either like,

Collin  22:25

no, no, I can't. I can't be doing that. It's impossible. So yeah, I had another person who had another basically like it was either same day or the next day. Oh, no, this was the ready for that ready for you. You're not ready for this. Go ahead. Sit down. Okay. Right. So hey, good luck.

Brandon  22:41

Alright. Good thing I already am. Okay, good.

Collin  22:44

Can phone call from this person and they said, I am in Kansas City. With my Great Dane who is losing control of his their limbs. They're on medication. I am, but I am leaving. It was this was This is Wednesday. I am leaving on Friday, for a two week trip that I have planned. And I can't miss this. I can't leave the dog at my house because he does need to be monitored medically like the vet needs to monitor him over the next two weeks while he's recovering from this condition. So what I need I need you to do is oh and they said but here's the problem. My that he's a staff a lot of

Brandon  23:28

problems in this sentence already. I don't really

Collin  23:32

mind. The person said, but the problem is, my vet doesn't do overnight boarding. So what I've arranged is my dog is going to stay at the emergency vet clinic overnight. But then they're going to stay at my vet during the day

24:00

and so and

Collin  24:03

and so what I need to do is I need you to transport my dog in the morning from the emergency vet to my vet but they don't open until state but the vet closes. But that but the overnight boarding portion of the emergency that closes at seven so you'd have to spend an hour with my dog. Take them to my vet when they open at eight and then my vet closes at five but I but you can't take my talk to the emergency vet until seven what

Brandon  24:39

I'm so confused by this whole thing.

Collin  24:45

Oh, and it was it was bad.

Brandon  24:55

That was terrible. Like I don't that is so messed up and then I know, I know what's happening. Also, the other part of your brain is going, I need that fan dang it. I know, I know. I knew it. I knew I needed to.

Collin  25:13

I know, I know, I was just like, I was like what? xe, I, I will put that I'm going like, why this is something like you This is like a this is a true commitment. And then I've kind of spent an hour with this dog in my car, like, what is it? So? Because I am the way I am like, I'm actually sitting here going like, how do I make this work? That's always my, that's my my brain just goes, yeah, how would I make that work? What would how would that look for us? Not? Should you do this? Is that a good idea? Because the

Brandon  25:44

answer is no, you should not do that. To take on

Collin  25:50

viously extreme short notice. It's obviously a no. I, but it's like I I don't have any alternatives. So I can't even be a nice like, oh, we can't help you. But you should record we you know, go to blah, blah, blah. So I was like, No, unfortunately, that's why I actually said I'll I'll call you back. Because I said I want to make sure that I answer you appropriately. Can you can you give me a couple of minutes to put a plan together and see if that's something that we can

Brandon  26:21

do. Yeah. And then I sat by the phone for three minutes. And there's like, Nope, sorry. No,

Collin  26:27

no, I called Megan. And I said, Hold on to your hat. And I explained to her and she was like, obviously, no, we're not no obvious. And I said I said I know, I know. I know. It's obvious but but also like

Brandon  26:42

insane. Like, it's actually the same thing. Like that's, that's wild. Now. I

Collin  26:50

just, I'm just I'm sitting here just thinking about that. flabbergasted and going, who? In what world? Would we have ever been able to take that on? Like, there's just, it's impossible, if it truly, truly is to actually ask that of somebody, even a business of like, Yeah, I know. We've got a lot of employees and stuff and like we can push people around, but remove their schedules and stuff that like dad said, That's not like that. No, that's a lot, but it's way too much. So anyway, that was not that was that was one of the other mind blowing phone calls that I had. This past. This past week. was quite mind blowing. That's That's crazy. I don't know.

Brandon  27:40

I don't know about that. That I don't recommend Yeah, no, definitely not. So

Collin  27:52

yeah, that's uh, but we're I'm very excited. I'd like it's been 64 degrees all day to day

Brandon  27:58

I know it's my

Collin  28:01

gosh, I I've been loving this. It's I couldn't believe

Brandon  28:05

it. I was like this can't be real this can't actually be happening Kenneth like

28:24

you just got your your ACA taken care of. Yes. So much.

Collin  28:32

Absolutely. Love it. Kids. Like it's so cool. Thank you. You're welcome. I told you I warned you. This will happen so deal with it. Because

Brandon  28:44

after this miserable few weeks I are not not even going to think about it being slightly warm in my classroom. No doubt Yeah, it's been nice mid recess. Very nice. Lovely out there. Oh, good.

Collin  29:06

Yeah, yeah.

Brandon  29:09

Oh, sorry about work right now because it's making me very angry and very grumpy about like, just many things. I will I do have Yes. It's not going well. I'm very I'm very upset about my life in general. So I have had a tragedy, though. At home this week. Now not now. You again slightly overuse of the word tragedy. Right.

Collin  29:31

But no, I'm putting it all caps in the show document three exclamation points. Our sandwich maker has died. I'm so sorry. This is a very this is very upsetting. Oh no, right now. I am at

Brandon  29:53

a quandary. We are intraday are at a quandary about what to do about this particular problem.

Collin  30:00

Right. Because, like,

Brandon  30:05

finding a replacement is like, looking like very difficult. Like, the options for sandwich makers, aka like panini press devices are like really weird. And they're either, like, really cheap and bad or like, very expensive.

Collin  30:24

And I'm not really about that part.

Brandon  30:27

So what to do? And so we're, we're talking today a lot about like, it's nice. It's a convenience we use it a lot. We don't like need it or.

Collin  30:46

Yeah.

Brandon  30:47

Other alternatives here. So it's a very we're in a quandary. Right? Okay. I

30:54

don't know what's

Brandon  30:57

out the death of the sandwich maker.

Collin  30:59

Right? It's tragic. Sad. Sad for a long time. Use it like the all the time. And now it's died. So Oh, no, no,

Brandon  31:15

no, we're gonna do here. This is this is this is

Collin  31:20

okay. Appliance death is one of my is a terrifying thing. Because you do get attached. You do get used to how they work and operate. And then yes, you find yourself a decade later going. Ah, it's it's what do I what do I really? Yeah,

Brandon  31:43

yeah, I think we've had this thing for approximately 12 years. So yeah, wait. Yeah. I'd see this as

Collin  31:56

this is like when Megan and I got married I don't know where we got this isn't really appliance. This is just more utensil stuff. But we got to that to this day. My all time favorite spatula, pancake flippers, right. I don't know what these things are made out of. But they are. They're, they're have a very, it's not a super long handle. It's a nice, it's a real short handle. And the the flipper part is like super flexible, but not like that. It will hold its shape. Like if you if you just set it Oh, okay. It's rigid, but it's, it's slightly bendable. It makes it nice when you're trying to like scrape up edges and stuff. It's also not like flare out silicone rubber type situation, perhaps find something similar? Ish. Yeah, it's like firmer, maybe. But it's not rubber. It's not actually not a rubber. It's like a, I would say what the way I envision it is if you scrape the Teflon off of a Teflon plate pan and then like cut it to the shape of a pancake flipper. It's kind of like that texture, but it's a little bit bendable. Anyway, it's, it's weird. One of these was nobody, nobody's gonna we don't know. We don't know who it was. It was me. But I put it in a drawer. And then I shut the door quickly. And the little flipper part was up in between where the door was going to shut and it pinched it and then snapped off a corner of the kickflip. Right. And, and I was like, oh, that's fine. We'll just go get another one. No, they didn't exist don't exist, they do not exist. We went back to the same manufacturer and they've changed it. They've made the flipper part, like wider at the base. Like it really like, spreads way. This nice, narrow thing. And so everything's just like bigger. The proportions are off. It's rounder, it's

Brandon  33:46

ergonomically awkward now.

Collin  33:48

I don't like like I tested it out in the department store and was like, Oh, wow, this is disgusting. And so we are left with a pancake flipper with a notch out of it because I don't I don't we can't replace it. And I don't know what we're gonna do.

Brandon  34:05

So that's what so this the panini press thing that we have is like, really nice because it the plates on it are

Collin  34:11

like ceramic. Right? So there's no like weird,

Brandon  34:16

like, Teflon stuff that like you actually scrape and you die of cancer. Oh yeah. of yours. Because it's like horrible. Right? Right. And so like it's all ceramic. It's real nice. It heats like really good. And even and it's really nice. And it's really good in the morning because like when I make my egg sandwiches Roback because apparently that's an option, right? Hey, okay, Tony. I have made them on there. Right? Like, we've already cooked the egg. And then I throw it on an English muffin with some cheese and I throw it in the sandwich press. Ha and then like you make coffee and you go about blah blah just leave it there for like, you know, 10 minutes or so and it's done. So you don't have you don't actually act like actively do anything. You just sort of set it off in The thing and let it go. And so it's very nice for the morning. And it's very nice to make like, it's I mean, sandwiches, right? When, like, lunches and stuff. I do use it all the time.

Collin  35:09

Like, there's other things in my house,

Brandon  35:13

I can make a sandwich with, like, you know, the oven or I own an actual toaster. Right? But and like, you know, so it's like, well, I don't need it. But it's really convenient. But like, when you look for like, ceramic plated Panini presses, right? They are they don't exist, right? They don't make them anymore. And the company that went with this one is it's like an older one, right? And it, they don't make them anymore. They just like stopped, like two years ago, they like now we're not gonna make they make like, they still make like blenders and all kinds of other stuff. They're like, now we're not gonna make those sandwich maker anymore. Nobody buys them. anymore. No.

Collin  35:59

Yeah. So it really has me thinking of like, really, now I'm going, okay. So the next time we buy one of these, we find one that we like, we have to buy like six, like, just like, we buy last. Because it's another decade, like, who knows what technologies will be out that I'm uncomfortable with? And I want to be able to have access to this? Yeah. Right. Like for a long time.

Brandon  36:21

And then thinking, thinking today, too, right? Like, so.

Collin  36:29

Here's the other problem, right? The sandwich makers, okay. Like,

Brandon  36:38

a lot of them are they do they are like, much more expensive than I want to buy a sandwich maker for right? But but that's because they have like all these other like weird features. Like they can like fold all the way open. And you can use them as like a griddle and door. So there, they have like, lots of variable temperature control things and all that stuff. Like, so part of me is going like, well, I didn't use that before my sandwich maker had a temperature knob.

Collin  37:08

That was it. Right? Boom,

Brandon  37:09

just like it was like, it was like, there was no numbers, it was just like, this side is less hot. This side is more hot. And it was kind of vague. Because you're like, Well, where do I put the knob. But once you find the spot, you leave it there forever, you don't worry about it. And so I'm like, I don't really need that. And I didn't use any other features. But then you're like, Did I not use the other features? Because I wouldn't use them? Or because they're not visible to me. Ah, well, now now your internal questions are like, well, if I did get them, would I actually use it? Or would I just continue using it like only a sandwich maker, because if I want to do that, then I don't want to buy this one that has all these extra features because then I'm not getting good value here, right? Like my value per dollar spent is lesson because I'm not utilizing the things here. It's very easy, it's very problematic, but I don't know

Collin  38:15

it is because because a lot of these things get added to a product over time because it's like value packing is what they're trying to do. Of going solenoid. Well we need to you know, we can we can now put all this in here so that we can charge more for it but the the marginal cost of adding an extra button is less than we're going to get out of it at the end that we can charge for now look at this panini press with 17 different features when yeah a decade ago it only had to let's look at that and going I don't I don't need okay I just have to where's the base model just have a base model that'd be really nice. It's like all the upgrades on cars Yeah, absolutely

Brandon  38:59

the same thing like

Collin  39:01

nobody wants the the base model and not the not just that they don't want them but they very rarely stopped even know like it's almost if you go into a car lot and try and find bare bones base model the locks don't have those I suppose

Brandon  39:21

existed name only right yeah, I don't know if they made the requisite they might have made like the requisite 500 that you have to have to be like yes it exists and then that there's actually no more right? Yeah, like where

Collin  39:35

where does this actually where are these and so yeah, it's it. So what they do is in ice ice is if you look at the cars being sold, like just look at the little badges on the side like I drive around and it's not just a where you live kind of thing. It's really is a what stocked what are people ordering so like we know just look at right now the new Tahoe is rolling out and everyone's buying them like, I don't see any, either. The most common one that I see is the high country like at this like way l mega trim. That's I see that all over the place. And it's frustrating because I know like, well prices on everything's are going up but like are they going up? Because like, are we just are we just not make? are we unable to make things cheaply like in less expensive? Or are manufacturers choosing not to because they can get a lot of profit on those those higher end models?

Brandon  40:28

And it makes me angry. Yeah, that makes me very angry as well. Right? Like,

Collin  40:35

because, like, if

Brandon  40:37

you think about it on the continuum, right? Like there are there are absorption points in the profit margin, where like, like, here's the maximum profit I could make, right? But if I did these other things, I could make slightly less profit. And then, like, still make things affordable for people. But it seems that all the decisions go, no, no, no, no. Why would you do that? I must maximize every cent of this right? That's just like what is expected for some reason, because apparently, it's not 2023. It's like 1883, because this is like a very Gilded Age like thing, right? This is what how, you know, you got to think about this. This is all like, what do you think about when you hear about like, the robber barons and stuff like Andrew Carnegie and all this stuff. This is like what they were doing, right? It's like is we're just gonna, like, who cares how much it actually cost to make it? Here's what we're gonna charge for it. So it's like, is it? Like, is it actually worth that price? At no, no, it's not really. It's like, this is what we're gonna charge you for, though. And this is what you're gonna buy. We're gonna put all these other trappings on it to make it look exciting, but it's like, not that it doesn't. It's like not worth it. Right? Just want sandwiches. That's all I don't want. I don't need to think about like, macro economics. I just want a warm sandwich. Okay, and I just don't want to use the microwave because it gets soggy. Right? What do you want to sound like soggy sandwiches? Unless they're supposed to be soggy, like a dip or something like that? That's different. Like that. Don't. Cheese? Don't want an unintentionally soggy sandwich. Hey, gosh, clarify.

Collin  42:42

There you go. Thank you for that. So yeah, so yeah, I mean, so I mean, where do you? Where does the panini press stand? At this moment,

Brandon  42:51

we don't know I still in limbo, right? So in limbo, we're going to I think what we're gonna do, is we're gonna just, you know, this one's done. So we're gonna do just throw it out. And then we're gonna take some time and see how we manage sans Panini breath. And we're gonna see if it's actually an integral part of life. Or, hey, if, if we can be replaced by the things that already exist in our house. So that is the it's gonna be experimentation. Time, right? To see. Plus, you know, like in the background, maybe continue looking at the presses

Collin  43:29

from, you know, see if there's anything even remotely

Brandon  43:34

in the ballpark of what I want to spend on a sandwich maker. Because again, this is not a it needs to turn on and become hot. I do not think this needs to require an exorbitant amount of money to procure, right so

Collin  43:49

now I'm sitting here thinking like yeah, do we go do you go and try to hit up the garage sales and like try and find us versions and like, you know, I feel bad that we maybe like chip up on eBay. See if you could find way

Brandon  44:06

right? Go Oh, my get him to now. They'd be like, Oh, discontinued sandwich maker. $3,000.

44:15

That's exactly what I

Brandon  44:20

get out of here. Speaking capitalism Get out of my hot sandwiches. Okay, I just want a sandwich. It's not cold. That's all I want. Yeah, here's my big quandary for the moment. What to do about this kitchen appliance that is no longer

Collin  44:49

pretty sad. But I don't know. I don't know.

Brandon  44:57

Big countries, big countries here. These are important. questions in life here is? Well,

45:02

I mean, they really are because this is. So this, this gets back to something that I have been thinking about. Recently, as I have been in a rush, I've been watching other people like rush around me, and how, like so she did a little bit of experiment yesterday of like, I'm going to try and rush like these people do and drive like these people do. And I'm going to keep up with them. And I'm going to aggressively like

Brandon  45:33

veer because there's people that drive more aggressively than you do. Are these people and get me away from it, because

45:44

these are the people that drive that fly by me like, and I certainly picked

Brandon  45:50

this as bad as as, as a person who lived in Dallas for a long time. Collins driving is a bit aggressive. enthusiastic.

Collin  46:02

So if you must know I live with somebody who's more enthusiastic than I am. That's all I'm going to say.

Brandon  46:08

I wasn't gonna bring that up. I didn't I But additionally,

Collin  46:12

the other people on the road that I am not married to not naming names, that I have been trying to keep up with them this past week. And I was like,

Brandon  46:21

I'm avoiding that. You know, that like Einstein thought experiment about traveling at the speed of light in a rocket ship. Yes, that you? Is that what you're doing right now observing the other people traveling in the other speed of

Collin  46:32

light in the rocketship? Yes, I was I was trying to see this alternate reality that they were existing in. And I came away from the just a girl being like, I was so exhausted, like, I'm tired now. It's just exhausting to live like that of like, always pushing driving, going, like frantic. Like I went through a drive thru to pick up some lunch and like, like, the lady around me was like, cutting in and like screeching to a halt next to me, it was like racing me out the window. It was one of those double ones where you're like, I'm at this one. And the person's on the other side, and I could tell she was like, racing to get me done. And I was like, I am sorry. Like, what? This is a fast food restaurant, like what are you? What are you joy? Like, I I understand that things happen. And things come up. But like, you're racing me at the window to order your food. What? Go home and talk to yourself about that in the mirror like oh my gosh, it was exhausting. Just trying to like always basically call it like, it was like a stoplights of like, from zero to red line. Like, that's what like people drive like that. Like it just immediately dark. Oh, like attack. I don't know, how these people live their lives. And, and just putting everything into context being like, at the end of the day, the important questions are which, which panini press are you going to buy? Like they asked us? That's really what matters. It's not like racing a window or like beating me off the line. It's, it's you're coming out comfortable. You are at your home. And having nice things around you is just like, oh, so bad. Yeah, we, we.

Brandon  48:22

Yesterday, we were coming home and we stopped, like in the, you know, at the light the four way light you were turning to the right. So we pulled into the thing. And then we had to wait kind of like there's like a yield thing, where you're waiting for the cross traffic to see if they're coming in the intersection you kind of double up and then like kind of look. Okay. And you never know. Right? You You understand that? You're not supposed to change lanes in the middle of the intersection. Yeah, we all know that people do. So we pulled up and we're waiting, kind of wait to see. And then like, hesitate. Like, seven seconds. Right? Pull up. Look, hesitate. And in that time, the dude behind this like came up real close to start honking

Collin  49:05

like, what are you

49:09

doing? What are you actually doing

Brandon  49:10

right now? So he came up, he drove by past us, right. And then he got another lane and we got and then we ended up at the same stoplight. We pulled up to the white thing. We pulled up to the white thing and he would not pull up a meet us window to get like the front of his car came to like the back wheel of our car. He would not pull up.

Collin  49:45

Yeah, I hope you're embarrassed. I hope you're embarrassed for that laughing

Brandon  49:49

so like I was trying to not be was not cheering to channel my inner dad, right? So I was just like laughing at him hysterically. And when he finally did pass us, he kind of looked over at US I just like gave him the thumbs up. Good job, buddy. Glad that you like actual thumbs up. I was given the nice hand sign him comes up and was like, can you go but good job. I'm glad that you conquered driving today. Glad that you met this challenge. It was so difficult for you to do that.

Collin  50:19

Yes, yep. Yep, exact same thing happened to me last night. I'm going home. I'm on the I'm on the highway. I'm going 65 in a 60. Okay, and I've got on cruise control. And we're driving along, and there's a truck. And of course, it's a lifted, dodge naturally RAM. And he is right on my tail, like right on my tail. And like, he's kind of doing the like, swerving back and forth that aggressively swerving, but like he's going drifting back and forth in the same lane. Like a Formula One driver. Exactly. And I know what he's doing is that he has calculated that the next turn is too close for him to veer around me aggressively and then get into that, but it's just far enough away that he has to he has to wait right in with it. He's really angry about that. And so what he does is as soon as that little right lane like, opens up Jaws a little bit where he can do, he veers over to the right, I see a huge cloud of diesel come up behind him. And then he has to be the same on his brakes, because there was a car broken down on the side of the road. And I did I too, gave him a thumbs up as I drove past. But that's what I started

Brandon  51:38

doing. I've been just giving them a thumbs up right when they do like really dumb things. And they just like I just like, good job. Yeah. Okay. inside of yourself. I hope you're proud that that was your response to this today. Wait, like, I think,

Collin  51:54

yeah, it's less passive aggressive than the clapping that I used to do.

Brandon  51:57

Oh, yeah. Sometimes. Yeah.

Collin  52:01

Yeah. So just the big like, rig jolly thumbs up. Really down. I've just been, I have been thinking about that whole thing a lot the past past three days, really, because of just how hectic My schedule is. And like I really am, like, just extremely time constrained. And there's not a room for a lot of extra things. But I've also been trying to not feel not internalize that aspect of like feeling the anxiousness of feeling of like, no, like, I really have to leave in the next two minutes. And if I don't my entire days off, like, not getting to that point of like anxiety, because it just it becomes all consuming. And then when I tried to live it for a little bit as an experiment, it was I was just like, who I need. can lay down for a little bit. This is too much. Yeah, yes. That's, that sounds terrible. I don't like

Brandon  52:56

I have to be like that in my days. it to some extent because like, I do have 55 minutes of class time, right. So I'm like, Okay, I have to maximize like, all of these seconds. So I do find myself having to be like, Yeah, we gotta go. But like, I try not to overdo it too much.

Collin  53:15

Yeah, and I think it's it I think you can i is a fine line. You can be timely, without being anxious about it, though. Right? Like, yeah, like that, or not being worked up about it. And that's where I go. I think this also, I this kicked me in the face, because I've been doing 30 minute visits for petsitting for 11 years, like, yeah, I feel very natural to me. I know I have a flow like there was one day Yeah, a couple of times, a couple of times this week, where I didn't even look at my phone, like track my time. I just kind of like, ended and I was like, oh, okay, yeah, I had three minutes to spare, cool. Because I just can't get into this pace. But one of our new hires, we finished a visit. And her first words out of her mouth were oh my gosh, they went by really fast. And I could tell that it was it was this, like, this anxiety was going to was starting to grow as they thought about the rush of time, and how quickly that went by and how they were worried about this now and having to go, I had to actually at the end of all of our visits, I pulled aside and went 30 minutes is sufficient for you to do whatever you need to get done. And if it doesn't get done, it wasn't important. Right? Like we prioritize the important things. And if you can't get to it, just let us know. Now this isn't an excuse to not do anything in 30 minutes. You can be busy, but kind of just trusting. I can get everything I need to get done. And if it didn't get done It wasn't supposed to. And and being okay with that, and and really like having that mindset of going I can I have enough hours today, right like I really do to get done what needs to get done. And do I get everything done that I want to know. But here's tomorrow, right? I'll I'll try again.

55:22

Yeah, this is hard and annoying. Oh yeah. No,

55:25

it is I want to I want

Brandon  55:33

to backtrack to somebody that you were talking about earlier. Oh, I got the restaurant thing. The drive thru thing? Oh, sure. Yeah,

Collin  55:40

I read, I read an article yesterday.

Brandon  55:45

And I feel like I'm not the first person to say this, right. But I feel like I'm just gonna throw him into this rant here. I feel like McDonald's has lost the plot. Right? I feel like they don't remember that they're a fast food restaurant. Because I saw a thing yesterday, that was like McDonald's plans to remove self serve drinking fountains by 2032.

Collin  56:09

Or like drink dispensers. And I was like, why? What is the? Like? You know, I

Brandon  56:19

think they're thinking about it, like people don't want to go in to McDonald's. Right, you know, focus on like, drive thru itself. But I haven't met just too many McDonald's employees in my life that are

Collin  56:33

happy. Right? And so

Brandon  56:39

asking them to give me more beverage, I feel like it's just really not going to play out.

Collin  56:48

Well, you know,

Brandon  56:50

like, they're already, like overworked and stressed about a lot of things. And they have to deal with a whole bunch of like, craziness. And then if they're gonna have like, lines of people just being like, Yo, can I have some more drink? I'd be like they used to be a way to solve this problem.

57:10

Yeah. When people did their own thing out, and here's what the heirs think. Which one is which one is cheaper to run a self serve or a full sell? Or full service? Yeah, kind of restaurant. Or like, this is why we don't have like, this is why we have self service gas stations. Now we don't have full service because it's too costly. It's not efficient. It doesn't make sense. Like there are benefits. It

Brandon  57:34

makes sense. Sorry, who that was it Oregon or whatever. Washington. Which one of you has seltzers gas stations now? That's ridiculous. Yeah. Like yeah, yeah. It's so weird. And I feel like just on top of like, all the like, we have premium sandwiches. You're picking Donald's Dude, you're not nobody wants to spend $12 on a hamburger? at McDonalds. Okay, that's not Yeah, that's not why you exist. Okay. You exist to be cheap and fast. That's it. That was it as a there's only quite as the only thing. I feel as though this like feels, though this started with their with their branding of the MC cafe.

Collin  58:16

Yeah, I don't like the McAfee thing. When they brought in all the kind of like, weird ish coffees. Food items, things

Brandon  58:30

like this about the time they all turned brown. Yes, but not in like a cool 80s way

Collin  58:36

Enlai was just a Kool Aid. It's not a Kool Aid. He's Brown.

Brandon  58:42

That's like a boring generic Brown. Right. Like,

58:45

I know, we've talked about this before, but like, I enjoyed

Brandon  58:51

when every single McDonald's you ever went into was completely different on the Yes. It was unnatural. Like, it was like an adventure. It was

Collin  59:02

like what am I walking into today? What world will this be? What how many different shaped tiles? Will there be? On the ground? Andrew?

Brandon  59:11

Will? Will my Berg will my stool be the weird hamburger police officer guy? Yeah, who knows? Right now?

Collin  59:23

You don't know today? We don't know today. We're gonna find out they're

Brandon  59:27

a fry guy tray holder? Don't know.

Collin  59:30

That's one can only hope. And and and I think more importantly, how much residual smell of cigarette smoke will there be in this bill?

Brandon  59:41

Last year. Have you seen that? I might have sent this to you at some point. But have you seen the meme that's like I'm this old and it's the McDonald's ashtray like

Collin  59:55

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yes, yes. Listen There's, it really wasn't that long ago. And I'm not saying that just because I'm afraid of my own mortality, but like, it was not that long ago in the grand scheme of things, but there were just ashtrays like public ashtrays everywhere like that you could use that were available in the McDonald's. Like, just,

Brandon  1:00:15

yeah. i His name was officer Big Mac, how could I forget that?

Collin  1:00:22

Right, one of the key? Yeah,

Brandon  1:00:26

but I think at some point, we might have to do some sort of McDonald's retrospective about these characters, just how bizarre this was.

1:00:32

Like, we might.

Brandon  1:00:35

Some of them, you could go in there and there would be like, it's just Mayor McCheese hanging out and like, birdie, the earlybird on a mural on the wall or like, an actually, like painted on the trashcan, and other ones were like, strange, like, they're just all there's all manner of insanity in these places.

Collin  1:00:57

What I what I what I think happened is when you opened up your franchise, they gave you a palette of options to put into your, your store, right? They were like, Here, here's a catalogue of all of our figurines. And all the far all of the paintings that you may have taken choose your own adventure. People have fun, like, go really go to town. And some people were like, I wanted all I wanted all this themed other people were like, No, it's just, I don't want that.

Brandon  1:01:26

The boring ones were just like, oh, we just want the Ronald McDonald thing that the bench out front the bench. She had the bench the weird bench, though the real ones had like the McNugget buddies, or like the Happy Meal gang thing. Those weird things? Craziness. So yes, yeah, when we moved away from like that, like it's just cheap food fast. Now, it's like, ah, we have like premium food, but it's also moderately quick. Like, that's the that's the weird trade off like, now you're paying more money. And

Collin  1:02:03

it's slower. Yeah, so

Brandon  1:02:07

we're going why would I want to go?

Collin  1:02:11

Back in Time here, right back in time.

Brandon  1:02:14

Yeah, I hold. The whole reason that you were invented, is to thwart this problem making. No, like, the reason you exist, is so that people have another option that is not expensive and slow. Uh huh. Wow. You have devolved into x in slow, like, Why? Why would you want to go there. But

Collin  1:02:45

the reason that they did that, like, you can tell that they are swinging back from the volume of sales now to the cost for each item and going, Oh, if I make a somewhat fancy burger, I can charge $4 more for it.

1:03:05

And

1:03:06

it sure cost me a little bit more to make it but I have to sell fewer of those then my really super cheap 99 cent burger to get there. Which, yeah, that's just Yeah. It was faster. And and controversially, is my controversial take here. Right.

Brandon  1:03:26

When they changed they changed their beef patties, right on some of their burgers because now it's like they're all like, Oh, it's 100% Fresh ground

Collin  1:03:35

beef. Right. Well, whatever. I I like the old ones better.

Brandon  1:03:42

I do not like the new quarter pounders with cheese. You see if they used to be my favorite like Quarter Pounder right the Old Quarter for I liked it. I liked the old frozen already cooked one because the new ones couple things happen. Number one, they're not cooked right sometimes and they look raw. Out here, they look bad. You're like, I don't want to eat that. Like, I don't trust this person who's been working at McDonald's since seven o'clock this morning has actually cooked this burger. Oh, yeah, their fault. It's just that, you know, they've been here for a double shift. And I didn't. Yeah, I don't know. So there needs to be some more margin for error. Right. I feel like it's not a it's not like a Michelin star like hyper focus quality. Now there's got to be margin of error here. Right. There's got to be some. No, it's got to be quick got to be easy to make. Got to be fast. There needs to be you know, you don't want to overtax the employees when they have to do this 100,000 times a day. You don't want them to have to like perform brain surgery or 1000 times a day because it's more mentally exhausting that way

Collin  1:04:52

this is why I would argue there needs to be less margin for error which is why all the prepackaged stuff, pre cooked stuff, but it was in the freezer was great big cuz it Yeah, a double shift hungover person, you know, who might have a little bit of an addiction to some other aspect. It's like, they can bake this, they can make this just as good as the person comes in fresh off the street like there's no.

Brandon  1:05:14

Like, yeah, I need it to be quick and I, you know, again, this is like a I'm not like I'm not trying to like put down the people that work at fast food places, right? Like I used to work at best like restaurants, stuff like that. So like, this is like a normal human being job, right? Yeah. Yeah, like, it's all you also have to do like lots of other things like you were talking about with other jobs like yours. When you work at a place like this, you're not just you don't have to just make food, you also have to, like, do inventory and like clean stuff, and like, you know, fix things and do there's like lots of other tasks that are happening simultaneously in the life of a person that works in this place. So yes, making that job more stressful. is not good for the the output of the stuff, right? So. And McDonald's has always been on this, like, for a while now. They've been trying to do this, like, oh, no, where were they? Like, pretend that they're like, food is healthy. Right? They like lighting. Sometimes they like oh, yeah, no, it's totally healthy. Like, first of all, it's a cheeseburger. So stop. I don't mix salad shaker. Never that

1:06:33

weird thing. Yeah, they was like, really reaching for that one. I was like, yeah. Or like, they

Brandon  1:06:38

have those weird salad things like, with all the stuff like that. So when you say like, Oh, my beef is like, because also weirdly, there's some sort of like intranet cult of like, what beef is like important or whatever, I don't know. But they're like, Oh, this is like 100. It's like fresh beef. And it's blah, blah, blah. And like, I don't know, maybe Wendy's just heard McDonald's in a tweet at some point. And they just feel the need to like really,

Collin  1:07:03

like, push back and say, No,

Brandon  1:07:05

we have we've raised

1:07:06

beef to Dave Toby's talk about like, but it just, it just feels wrong. It's not good. It feels off brand to me, for the brand that I once knew and loved as a child. It just feels off.

Brandon  1:07:24

Right? It just doesn't feel like not that I've actually eaten McDonald's in like a year. So like, you know, this is part of the reason why, like, it's way too expensive. It's not cost effective. And it's not even really that good. Because

1:07:39

I put it all together. It's you know,

Brandon  1:07:41

put it all together. I'm going to talk about All right, that's really what's

1:07:48

your certainly lost business.

1:07:51

It's really what boils down to

Collin  1:07:58

ah, yeah. Yeah, since in this thing is all about change. And I there are other changes that they've made as well, like, they changed not just the kind of salt but the amount of salt that they used and through all the oils that they use now. And so yes, things do. They do taste different. And then, I think the whole point of this discussion of like, when you said McDonald's has lost the plot, like all these other changes that they've done. Like, like the salts in the oils and the berries, like, that's one thing, but I think overall, just the like, Who do they think not, this is not okay, I'm gonna say this phrase. And it's not meant how people usually see this, but like, Who do they think they are? Right?

Brandon  1:08:41

I mean, yeah, you're not like Ruby Tuesday. Okay, calm down. Like I think whenever you start taking away the Hamburglar that there's a sign of trouble, right? Like, because like McDonald's is supposed to be like, fun. Right? I was like, you go there as a kid. Right. That's why you have nostalgic memories of McDonald's because it was an enjoyable experience. Yeah, right. Sitting in a brown room. But again, not a cool 80s Brown. Okay, there's a different distinction here. Very cool. 80s Brown is different. But it's an important distinction that we have to hold dear it is like, there's like stuff to look at. And it's like, interesting, like visually interesting and like there's all this stuff. And then now if you go in there it just looks like you could be in any like generic coffee shop ever but there's somebody eat french fries, like what is happening? Yeah,

Collin  1:09:45

it was kind of like a like a knockoff Panera on the inside.

Brandon  1:09:49

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like Panera Bread inside. It's a little bit weird in there. Right? It's too like it's a weird Brown. And then the breads all brown and inside. I felt strange, like weird in there. Like, keep it Donald sort of look like that. It's supposed to be like a if they're, you know, they like moved away from like a family thing with cheap food and blah blah like, no now it's just like, see, like there's Yeah, that's the area feels way too seriously.

Collin  1:10:16

Uh huh. Don't have whimsy, right. That's the first time whimsy and good. Oh, that's good. I like that. And I think that that's just been a general trend and a lot of things of businesses in general not having a cork or being not that they have to be like, Ooh, look at me you're like, but like, I

Brandon  1:10:37

mean, you don't want to be too. You don't want me to like, Oh, I'm not like other girls, right? You don't be like that. But like,

Collin  1:10:43

I literally have a clown. Okay, clown. Let's be very real about this. Like, it's clown. So like, let's work shop that a little bit. And they did. And in the 80s and 90s. It was insane. Like it was a lot going on. But it was fun. And it had whimsy and it was quirky. And it was kind of different in weird than everything else. But they had all that built up around it. And you just don't see that anymore in any business. Really. Everyone's like who I'm from like we're in a board meeting. You're like, ah, Cheez Whiz. Oh, this is why our logo, my logo of our PetSafe business. The cat and the dog are wearing hats. Okay, like, this is very important. These are weird and they're kind of like,

Brandon  1:11:36

why? This is why we're gonna have to make an old brother t shirt. It's like 90 themed right? It's gonna look like you could have bought it at Discovery Zone.

1:11:45

Yes. Oh my gosh. Well, I I may have to sit. I make sure I don't have caffeine before I see that bread. Yes, yeah.

Brandon  1:11:51

Oh, it's gonna look like a cross between you could buy it in the Discovery Zone gift shop and like the opening credits of Saved by the Bell. It's like BAM

Collin  1:12:09

Yes, yes. Yeah. Okay, so that brings up a very good point here of like, we have a color that I saw a lot growing up through through the 90s that you don't really see a lot out in the world right now. Is actually is the color purple? I don't say electric blue. Well elect okay. It's fine electric. But yes, like, Saved by the Bell but it's like blue green. Yeah. Purple. Like, like you just Yes. Yes. People going like why would you? Why would you combine those colors? I don't know. Okay, but they did and it worked. It was glorious.

1:12:50

Oh, well, yeah, right. Right. There's a lot of weird like that. It's not. Yeah, it's whimsical. It's like fun. It's like a new it's not brown and it's not again, cool brown. Like yeah, weird. 80s living room Brown. Like

Collin  1:13:10

I'm gonna search here we're gonna 1980s Brown and I just want to see what comes up and yeah

1:13:19

I was gonna I this okay, well, this may have to be the short I think I've Yeah, it's

Brandon  1:13:25

not gonna be Yeah, cuz we might get in trouble for us the big nugget buddies. I think we might. Well

1:13:29

I was definitely not doing this. Like

Brandon  1:13:34

McDonald's isn't using them anymore. So

Collin  1:13:37

I'm sure their IP is a little a little you know, little open. Oh, it gets right here. Oh, yeah, this is this is beautiful. I want to send you this. Okay, this is actually this is so on brand right now for what we're talking about. I liked

Brandon  1:13:52

I liked it. This first one has a captain's wheel chandelier. That's important. For this.

1:14:01

What's happening?

Brandon  1:14:04

Yes. That's the McDonald's that we know. And

1:14:09

what's important about this is that it's brown. Brown,

Brandon  1:14:17

Brown Buick in front of it. And a reddish brown nation way.

Collin  1:14:25

Oh, that's as soon as I saw

Brandon  1:14:28

that. Okay. The brown the brown and cream right? That's just that is madness. Beautiful. That is I love it. You gotta appreciate these pictures so much. You don't even understand

Collin  1:14:46

Oh, it's wonderful. It's just anyway, I that's when you knew as like, yeah. When you pulled up and you saw that McDonald's. You were like, Yeah, I don't. I don't know what this is. to a whole world something here like this is amazing.

Brandon  1:15:03

And then you remember that weird like, some of them have that not just with dogs but other ones have this like they had like the seating and it was like a weird like half arch glass window. On the side.

Collin  1:15:16

Yeah, there were Yeah, there was lot of bricks inside if I remember in some of the archways with the planters with the planters, right.

Brandon  1:15:24

It was like a brick wall with like, Yes. On the top. Yes. Yeah. But then that beside had that, like, I don't really it was like a half of you an inverted half. Just the whole thing was window. And then the bottom half was break. And there's just tables. Brown tables, all

Collin  1:15:44

wonderful. Yep. Oh, man. Yes. Ah, it's lovely. Yeah, and then I see the ice. Yeah, like this. You don't get that anymore. And everything. So I'm going to say roll is a word sterile and industrial. Right. And this is, I think, the browns. The Beige is to creams, that kind of stuff. Like, it felt a lot more. It just felt a lot more earthy. I mean, it's literally brown. It's really like, so like, it just but it just felt more like, I don't know, just less no more approachable or whatever. I don't know. But like, yeah, now everything is steel and high gloss. And like,

Brandon  1:16:29

yeah, it's a very, it feels like a surgical room. You know, like, weird, like, like, the like, you know, I did when I talked about that extolling the virtues of the new library in town, right? Oh, yeah. I like all the features and like, all this stuff, but it does have that sterile vibe. And the lady that's worked there for like, ever. She said the same thing. She's like, it's just not like, warm and inviting, you know what I mean? It's very, like, the like said the new construction of our school building. Right? Some of it's finally done, holy cow. But like, it has that same vibe. It's like, sterile, and like, austere, but like, in a weird way. Like it's not. It's just not an inviting space to be in. Right? It's just not like, it's like some of its like, some of the tile the walls like very stark white and like, like hurtful, right? It's like, it's like what you'd see like a Stanley Kubrick movie, where they're trying to give you an environment of like discomfort, right?

Collin  1:17:29

That's what it's like. Yeah, it's very harsh. Harsh. Yeah.

Brandon  1:17:35

And that that pair that with like, LED lighting it's like

Collin  1:17:39

Yeah, yeah, it's not not it not an inviting place to be at all. Yeah, go

Brandon  1:17:49

hashtag where's the brown? That's what I go more brown.

Collin  1:17:54

Yeah, I've got a lot of brown just recover at this time. This is going to be just have to like that living room. That's pretty exciting. Somebody

Brandon  1:18:03

that had that couch right? I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure I've seen that couch in real life.

1:18:10

And what I love about this photo is that we are you know, we're not going to say how many years we are on from from this, this this timeframe? Because it's depressing, but I will say that like, like all of these elements can be found out in the world in different aspects, but to believe that there was a time where they were all in the same

Collin  1:18:32

space it's it's a bit shocking whenever you think about it in that way of like, Oh, I've seen that lamp and I've seen that thing I've seen but like there was a time 40 years ago show that they were all together together

Brandon  1:18:50

so I like the wood paneling with the stone wall.

Collin  1:18:56

Oh the stone that stone wall is key to the success of corn

Brandon  1:18:59

right again, I knew people that have that in their house. So this is this is glorious. I'm just gonna make that my phone wallpaper maybe

1:19:13

it's very, very relaxing. So when you have that you're like I just need to go find my hack.

Brandon  1:19:19

Here it is a 1980s late 80s living room

Collin  1:19:27

Yeah, man that's great I can I can

Brandon  1:19:38

I can hear Dan Quayle spelling potato right now. That's what I can do. Right it's it's an extremely niche 80s reference gentleman as you like.

1:19:53

It's both it's both Oh, it's so depressing. It's really is Hey, Dan Quayle.

1:20:02

How's that for you?

Collin  1:20:03

Well, I, I mean, I just Yeah, people think oh, that you know, we live in the most ridiculous era of our, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff and it's like no, like, no this these things have been happening for a very, very long time. Yeah, for sure. For sure, man. No need to find difficult bio Taito

Brandon  1:20:22

in case in case our listeners are not old enough to realize that Dan Quayle doesn't know how to spell potato, he puts an E on the end of it. This is a tweet I sock back. Yes. Yeah.

1:20:34

I figured that was it. 90 news on net Netflix versus the 80s IRL says the lady in like the blue shorts and purple tights and like hair, frizzy hair with weird geometric shapes on your shirt. And then next to it is the brown and McDonald's ashtray.

Brandon  1:20:54

It says as if we were fair, there was a lot of geometric shapes happening, right? There was right.

Collin  1:21:00

Yes, this is but this was, you know, this was also like, yeah, really late. 80s. Early 90s is where now? Yeah, I remember seeing lots but anyway, but yes, like, underneath it says a very old person. I feel qualified to say that the most modern media set on the 80s fails to capture how effing brown everything

Brandon  1:21:17

is true. can confirm can confirm. Oh my gosh.

Collin  1:21:28

Oh, yes. Wonderful. It is wonderful. Yeah. And then I'll throw a link in here of Dan Quayle struggling to sell potato

Brandon  1:21:40

preview. I was thinking about that today. Yesterday, actually, because he's and I were talking about what our conversation we had a couple weeks ago about the generational thing and how I feel like, you know, generations are made up but they're also real. Yeah. And about how like, the term millennial I find struggling because like, technically, I am a millennial. But I feel like if you can remember Dan Coyle, you may not need to be counted as the same type of millennial as people born in like, 1985. I just feel like it's not the same. If you remember Dan Quayle in the Cold War, and David Hasselhoff breaking down the Berlin Wall. I just feel even within millennials, there's a generational gap that

Collin  1:22:24

yes, yeah, there's there's, there's some things in there that you don't need to worry about. Yeah, just just

Brandon  1:22:30

include it. Yeah. If you don't love Brown, I feel like that's the,

Collin  1:22:36

you know, yeah, this is actually what we need to do. This is what we need to figure out. We need to take these tests of like, what do you like, or don't like? Like, like, yeah, when you think, oh, even better? What year do you think was 20 years ago? Right? That's a good one. Right? Like, that's

Brandon  1:22:55

like, no, it should just be like one of the you know, that when they put like six pictures, and they're all the same, but you have to like pick your favorite one. Right?

Collin  1:23:03

Yeah. You know, it's

Brandon  1:23:04

like, you know, pick your favorite like, I don't know, there's weird like BuzzFeed ones, where it's like your aesthetic. And it's like, the favorite like something. It should just be like couches, and it's just, yeah, it's designed for decades. And what about lamps? And then it's like ones like, what's a lamp? The other one's like a weed led thing. The other one has like, a giant lit tubular lampshade on it. It's like way to be excellent. I feel like that'd be important. Yeah,

1:23:38

these are these are the things that are important in life. Right, stop. People stop rushing to get through the drive thru and frantically weaving your way in and out of traffic. Just remember that life is brown one time and we all arrived was it was glorious. It was very glorious, gloriously Brown,

Brandon  1:24:01

in the West. But oh, yeah. Before we wrap up, I have a question for you. Okay. Sure. Sure. Would. Would you be interested in a Halloween themed movie watching challenge?

Collin  1:24:14

Yes, very much, please. Okay, so

Brandon  1:24:17

I think we don't have to do it like, so we can set the date for a few weeks. Okay, you have time to complete this. And so we can do some research here, but I think we should bring forth best Halloween movie.

Collin  1:24:30

Oh, okay.

Brandon  1:24:31

It doesn't have to be like can be anything right. I feel like we should automatically I think again, this should be like best Halloween movie. Not named. It's a great Pumpkin Charlie Brown. I feel like that's

1:24:47

that's fine. That's fine.

Brandon  1:24:49

That's important. But like I was it is fall. Right. We have just come off the book reading thing. And we I think we need something to do. And it is this is he Even like timely and seasonal look at us. Look at us listeners. Look at that. This is

Collin  1:25:07

not like us at all. So I just think it's very off brand I don't like I never mind. Just bad idea. Well, the on

Brandon  1:25:15

brand part is it's very vague. And I imagine the answers are not going to be the same at all.

Collin  1:25:20

i Yes, yes. I am very interested to see what the answer is. Yes. I like this. I liked this idea. Best Halloween movie that it's not named. It's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown.

Brandon  1:25:31

Because, I mean, if there's, I don't really like love Halloween. It's like my favorite time of year. But I am excited to be for it to be fall because it has been 1000 degrees outside. So I thought this would be a good way to celebrate that. But the only Halloween movie that I ever watch. It's a great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown. And I don't want that to be the answer. Okay, because that's just way too easy. Because it's wonderful. Okay. Yeah, I laid it out for a couple of weeks from now, but

Collin  1:26:02

okay. Yeah, well, this will give plenty of time but to sit and think yeah, and then we can. Yeah, like this week is something we can work towards and have have brewing the hotseat. Oh, oh, man. Okay, well, this is yeah, best movie. Do you want to do like a way in the past? We've done like a top five or top three or something? Or do you just want to workshop that part?

Brandon  1:26:25

Okay. Yeah, that way again for a couple weeks away from now. So we can we can offline we can think about that. Yes. We can do five or three or something

Collin  1:26:32

like whatever. Yeah, I think that'd be fine. Because those are usually my I like doing those of like, yeah, ranking couple different ones. And like what we bring to the table, so plus, then we can watch more ridiculous Halloween Halloween movies, which I do enjoy. So if now to start the search, okay. Yes, it's good.

Brandon  1:26:50

I already have one in mind. Yeah, I want to watch it again a long time, but I have one that's going on the list.

Collin  1:26:57

somewhere probably. I like Well, yeah, I mean, depending on how I group things. Yeah, I think I may I may I already may already have three. So oh, oh, man. I gotta get with it here. Anyway, but yeah, we will do that. I liked that idea. We'll, we'll try our best so Okay, well, hello. Work that wired. Yes,

Brandon  1:27:29

that bombshell. We gave ourselves time we homework.

Collin  1:27:31

We're titling as a credible and not just timely homework, but we gave ourselves time to actually do it. It's sort of like well, let's figure if we could do this next week or something. So cram it in. So look at this look at this is called the adult at its best. Yes. It's difficult to welcome

1:27:46

this once. Again. Don't expect a lot people it's fine. Yeah, true. Okay, well, very good. Well, we will we will move forward with that. All right. Love you. Love you. Bye bye.