Explain Rock a Doodle
Do you like MLM’s? We DON’T!! We talk about the predatory nature of many of these companies and how gross selling can be. Aaron is watching movies! So, obviously we have opinions. Plus, Peter Cullen is amazing.
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SPEAKERS
Collin, Aaron
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Welcome to Oh, brother, a podcast with three brothers trying to figure it all out with your host, Brandon, Colin, and Aaron. On this week's show,
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internet selling. Hello?
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Hello?
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What's new?
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Nothing? Really I
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don't find
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fine. Start the actual show when Aaron gets. Megan, they have to, we get a lot of people that reach out to us for that show, and
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maybe we'll want to be on, that's fine. We have we do we interview other pet sitters. Every now and then you get this request and you're like, something seems off about this. And you go and you look, and they're part of like a, an MLM, or a, you know, this pyramid high. Or like, you know, wanting to come on to basically
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Hawk
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Down to become this new thing, because one of the things that happened during the pandemic was all these pet sitters were out of work petsitting as these predominant everyone was at home. So these were predatory mlms swooped in and started contacting pet sitters saying, Hey, why don't you sell pet food to your client, and toys, client, and you won't have to worry about managing any stock or inventory or sales tax. Because they'll use your super secret special code when they go to our online store. Now get them a discount, plus you get a kickback from it. And so many head sitters bit and are on this train.
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Oh yeah.
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And we get I'm gonna say we probably get to two emails, many LinkedIn messages a week from these people being like,
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hey,
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what you let's talk let's get together. You guys have the show. We want to talk about it. We do stuff. And every time we're just like,
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how about no?
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How about No,
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no, about new about now? Yeah,
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it's so bad. And I know like, that kind of stuff. Some people get in. And it's fine. But I just I just I have physical reaction
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against that kind
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of crap. No, yeah, it's it's it's like he said that word you chose it at predatory is definitely the right one. You know, why? Why are you doing man? Taking advantage of people
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trying to Hawk You're weird,
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like, insurance thing or whatever?
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Oh, yeah. I mean, what it always is, is it's pet supplements.
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It's pet food, joint stuff.
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It toys treat. I actually so I have some, some new and we there's some in the industry that are like, I can recognize the sale pitch, just by reading the first two lines. I'm like, oh, he worked for that call. Yeah. Because they're always like, hey, I've got this great typist, you know, I've got I've increased my revenue through this, you know, with from my home. And my clients absolutely love it, you know, DM me for more information. And so I always, I always respond with what's the name of the company? Because they don't want to tell you that in public. They want you to dm them. They have this offline. But some lady reached out to us and was like, No, see you guys have podcast and your pet sitters. I would love to talk with you about an opportunity. And I'm like,
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so
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I had some spare time. So I was like, sure. Here's the phone number you can call it's the podcasting phone number. And over here call this will talk. Man, you know, if I didn't, you know, if I were less resolve about this, they're so good. They are so good about like, well, your clients are already buying food to why one day, they trust you. Why don't you make these recommendations for blah, blah, blah, blah. And then she was like, so what kind of recommendations do you usually give your client and I was like, we don't give product recommendations to our client. If they have questions, we send them information about how to make a good informed decision and we discuss that with them. We send them to the Better Business Bureau. Like we never give a lot out product recommendation. And there was silent and she was like Well, are you selling anything right? Now and I was like, No, and we don't want to.
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Yeah, my services,
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as you know, and she was like, Well, what kind of food? are you feeding your dog? And I was like, well, dog food.
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I was like, well, it's actually he's on this weird like, like, vegetarian branch of stuff. And she was like, Oh, and I was looking at their website, and they don't have anything that we would feed Coby. It's just like,
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Yeah, no,
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I'm fine. And she said, Well, tell me why you feed him that way. And I was like, because it's dog food at that point, proteins, protein, and as long as it's balanced and not heavy in grains, it does not matter where the protein comes from, because it doesn't. And she, she was like,
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um, anyway, I'll email him information and we'll get back in touch as like.
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Good point as spam. Blam
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Got it? Oh,
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it's so bad. It's, it's Yeah. So I guess. First of all, hello, Aaron has gone. Start the show. Well, I was gonna segue into a
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I got,
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I went to a meeting like that one time. Like, it was one of those things. Like, when my friends was like, come on, bro. We got one we're in Springfield, or whatever. He's like, Oh, yeah, my friend that knows this guy. We're gonna go sing, right. I was like, Alright, whatever. Like, so we got there. And I was lied to. Basically it was like, Oh, yeah, it's this thing about whatever. No, it was this like,
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really weird. Like,
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I don't remember, like, some kind of like, insurance II type of thing.
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Right.
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And it sounded like when he was telling me this, like, I wasn't really paying attention to him. And it was just like, Oh, well, let's go to the meetings, like was informational meetings where they have they go to like, it's like a hotel. Conference Center thing, right? Yeah. And I, you know, I was assuming I'm like, okay, whenever we go, and they give you that, like, Oh, yeah, it was one of those like, well, you become this thing. And then like, later on, you break up and then you can recruit people to work with you and me and this other guy. That was me and my, my other friend that was there. They got dragged to this. We both love each other. We're like, Oh, no, oh, no, no, no.
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Like they were
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you right? though. It's real slick. Like the verb love. The word choice is very specific.
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The like,
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you know that that little sales pitch they gave you is like very focused and targeted. And it's just real slick and polished. But when you start to think about it, you go ha, that's shaped like a pyramid. I was just about to say, yeah, it's interesting. Like, anytime they're like, Oh, yeah, you can do this stuff. And you make sales, and then you can recruit people to sell for you. And you can be like a boss. I was like, Um, no. All right. And it's one of the things like I read, I was listening to a mathematician talking about this one time about that, this this kind of situation. And he's like, it sounds good.
08:31
Right? Yeah.
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It sounds it's just five people, you know, five people,
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right? It's like, if,
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if you continue that, like, you know, you start the thing, one person, they recruit five people, all of those people recruit five people, right? What you have now is an exponentially growing graph. And he was like, if you do that, and it was something stupid, like, if you follow this math out through seven generations, you exceed the number of people on the planet.
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Yeah, right. Like,
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yo.
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So if you don't really think about it too much, right? It kind of makes sense. I could see how people get dry like, oh, man, yeah, it's just, you know, five people, and because you only think about yourself, right? Oh, me, and I know, you know, people that could do this. We can sell x product, whatever that thing is. And then like, all of a sudden, you're going, wait a minute. That's a lot of people. I get to like, shy at numbers real fast. Yeah, that just took your exponential curve just explodes on tenable. There's a really good podcast that I will recommend. And I'll put in the shownotes. It's called the dream. And they walk through this exact thing and talk about the history of MLM of pyramid schemes. In the predatory nature, they interview people involved at all levels of this stuff. They actually, as part of podcast, get involved in one and talk about them on the onboarding process for one of the research purposes, I guess.
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Yeah. for research. Wow.
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It's really good. I've actually gone back and re Listen, I said, like Morgan
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Spurlock. embeded journalism's dive right in there, right? Yeah,
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I think make it an I got invited to one of those things. We were actually in Lubbock, at the time. petsitting. And one of our clients invited us to, to this thing, and we went to their house, and we sat down. And it was so awkward, because there was another person there. And he was like, the waiter from a restaurant that they had eaten at the
10:43
No, no.
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Those things.
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And we're like, it was this thing of like, it was selling a home, like, Home Goods isn't like furniture, but like, it was kind of like an online,
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Costco
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kind of thing, right? And so it was, it was the whole, like, you're already buying this stuff. And if you sign up at this level, you get discounts. And if you want to start, you know, bringing people in and referring to them, you can give them a code of four. They're about buying toilet paper, so why not make money buying toilet paper? And you're going, Okay, and then they totally said, they have that line that every MLM says, Every single one says, We're not a pyramid scheme, because pyramid schemes are in fact illegal. And then they literally flipped the chart today decide right structure of how it worked. And I'm looking at it I'm going that's, that's, that's pyramid. It's pyramid. That's a pyramid.
11:51
Oh, man.
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Yeah. And that's the thing, like whenever the this one that I got suck at, and this was not like recently, by the way, this was like, QA this. I was, like, right after I left Crowder. So this was like,
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you know, you don't have to go.
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Yeah, cuz I don't want to, but it was a long time ago. Over 10 years, let's just leave it there. Like the words he was using, it sounded like legitimate things. Right? Because somebody lied to him. And he was believing them. Right? So it sounded like a legitimate like, I can't remember. It's like some kind of like, insurance eat. Situation number. Something weird, like that. Got all sounded like legit. It wasn't like, supplements or anything like that. Right? It was a weird, like, kind of deal. But then when we got there, and you listen to the thing and saw the full PowerPoint and listed them talking, like being by the front, like, wait a minute. Hold on, right. Hold on. Oh, no, I this is not good.
12:53
mellow rat. Yeah. Yeah.
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And I understand that people get involved for different reasons, right. And they have different motivations and all sorts of stuff. And I don't fault anybody who goes into it, hoping to make a better life for themselves. Right? Because I know that that's really where they fall. Right? They look well, yeah. But that's that that, again, goes to the predatory nature of these things, right? Because they are preying on people like trying to, you know, get out of a situation or trying to, and they're using that, that vulnerability to make themselves some money, and then just like, dump the burden on this poor, quote, unquote, sales representative, right? Like, oh, yeah, oh, you got to buy all this inventory. And you have to buy X number of things per month, and have it in stock for things. So you read by these people, and they like work for like, you know, this kind of thing. And they're selling like, either clothing or supplements or whatever. And they've got garages full of junk, and they can't sell it, and they've had to buy all of it.
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Yeah, they're being forced to buy more,
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but nobody's buying it from them. Right. And that's the thing. Like, when you start looking at, well, if you have to meet like, minimum monthly sales, it's, it's, it's, at some point, you start buying more of this merchandise for yourself, to meet to meet your goal. Yeah. And then you're like, great, I'm spending how many 1000s of dollars just to you know, stay on the leaderboard or whatever to get that $7 mark. or whatever, you know, some of the like, the big park is, like, really enticing. It's like some kind of like, car or a trip or something. Right, but then like, there's no lower tier perks, right? It's like the one and then that's it. So you know, it's not like those, uh, those damn like band fundraisers right where there's just like, he sold three things choose from this guy. Category he sold five things choose from this
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cat. Get a sticker.
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You know where you feel like you're at? feel like you're back at Mr. gettys you've only won like seven tickets. It's our game right? Yeah also deep cut for Springfield Missouri listeners Mr. Gary's pizza. Yo, man. That was some terrible pizza. What a great arcade. Anyway. Yes, I remember playing Hungry Hungry Hippos there actually is what I we had a giant one. Yeah, yes. Sir Gatti. Yeah.
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Yeah. Anyway, but yeah, that
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it's it's that predatory nature that's like, it makes your skin kind of crawl about, like, I know,
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what are you doing? And
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you know, there's some of them are like pretty innocuous. Like, you can buy, like, if you're like you said, if you're already buying, like, I don't know, x product. And you like it, and you get a discount for buying it for yourself. And you can occasionally sell something to your friend.
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Whatever, that's fine. Who cares? Well, that's not really hurting anybody. Right? You know.
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But when they like really try to amp it up and force you into those sales quotas. And like, the ones that really make you like, you have to do this or you lose on these minute benefits that we're giving you, right? You don't get that you, you have to move so much product and make x dollar amount.
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That's the ones
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like we hold on.
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Wait a minute. Yeah. We
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we met with a lady earlier this week, trying to trying to sell us ad spots on the local radio station. For for our business, okay. Yeah.
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You say, listen, we already have too much.
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I didn't take that. But I was like, look like, I genuinely was just interested in that world. Because I have never thought about what does that even cost? like? What does that even look like? How do you work with radio? Right?
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Like, okay,
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I'll go into this for a fact finding information. I'm going to say no, like, I know, no, let's just let's just hear this person out. To been in the position for like, three, four months, maybe a little bit longer than that. But ad spots and radio stations are ridiculous. And they have this weird thing like a, quote, guaranteed impressions. And I was like, how are you guaranteeing 10,000 mean, depression
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on this ad? She's like, well,
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because they know their traffic and blah, blah, and they know how these usually perform and blah, blah. And then I paused and I was like,
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oh, far away? Can
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you feel your this radio station? Right? Because she was like, Oh, I think I could pick it up. But I'm down in Branson. And I was like, Ah, there we go. People who? I don't want me hearing my ad or hearing my Yeah, right. Like, I understand I cannot offer them services. hours away from my house. Totally pointless, right. So that doesn't mean they have to wait. And then she started trying to trying to sell us on a on a website. And john,
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I've already got one yesterday I
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actually am really happy with the traffic that we're getting and we can monitor it and blah blah and we get really good results and and then she's started I probably talking a little bit more than she should have. Because apparently last year, the ad company that they partner with through the radio station sells all the ads bought their sales reps did not have a quota or match for anything.
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But now she is required. She is required
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to sell one website a month.
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Now that's
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websites
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because then her very next statement was well I've already sold seven this year. And I want to reach across the table and smack her and go You are kicking your you're throwing your career in the trash by over achieving. I don't only there's a cap on how many people are going to need that service. I read that out you're gonna if you're required to do your role if you are required to sell one a month and you are bragging about how you've already done seven and she was like, Yeah, apparently the station or the ad company. They only sold two of all last year and I've sold seven this this this already. Then I'm going wow. Like you You are not going to be in this position very long. Because if you are required to sell one a month, there's only so many businesses here in this small town. Right? And even in the remote area around us, it's like, Who are you selling these to?
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Who? Yeah, like who's buying? who's buying this? Stop it.
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If you want to know if you want to see, be in the same position a year from now, you got to slow down, and I hate telling people to stop being productive. But if somebody came to me said, you're required to do one a month, I'd be like, Okay, I got it. We'll do what?
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Yeah. Right. Well, like you said, it's
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a limited resource area. But you know, that's the disconnect was like the sales world, right? Like, must sell more stuff. And that's not i'm not talking to any listeners who happen to be in sales. That is a very important thing, right? Like, I buy lots of stuff. Right? I think it's important part of our society. But like, upselling people stuff they don't need is weird. Like, I don't, you know, that really, and again, whenever your sales are based on volume,
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right. And it's a,
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this isn't the fault of the salesman. So if you are a salesperson, listeners, this is not directed towards you. It's the companies that work for that they work for, right. They're the ones driving this, like ultra competitive behavior. Part of it's like putting sales people against each other, to like, you got to sell more stuff. And you'll, you know, even legitimate businesses, not the MLM stuff. When you are working that way. You're kind of like, you're number one, you're pitting your own workforce against each other. So you have like, weird workplace drama, it's not necessary to, like healthy environment where people want to work. And
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you're like, really,
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like, wearing out your customers.
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You know,
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I'm all about customer service I want if I go into a place to buy something I like want to be held. But if people are like, all over me, I'm like, okay, you need to stop I get. And part of that is my own personality. I understand that some people respond differently to this than me. I understand that. But my initial reaction is, whoa, stop. When you can go away. I'll find you When I need help. Right? Like, like most of them, I can handle and then I will come find you when I'm ready to buy this thing. But like, stay over there. And I I see any of your intrusion when I'm trying to buy like socks or something, man, it's not in the real world. It's in the digital world, too. And yes, it probably just in the circles that we run in online. But the number of people who have a personal Facebook page, that is their sales page, right? Like they've got the header with their they work for and all of their all of their posts are nothing but selling, selling, selling, talking about the latest product, talking about the latest release talking about this thing I get I'm like, if that's what you do with a Facebook page, oh my gosh, like he must be intolerable in.
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Just, I mean, part of that off? Well, yes,
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that's true. But like, I think some of that comes from the fact that it is like online sales really, is still kind of like a new thing. Right? Like, yeah, that's a new situation. And I think a lot of people don't really understand that.
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It's a different,
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it's a different space to sell things in. Right. And it it kind of harkens back to like that, like you are kind of blurring the line a little bit when you are even if you are a let's say that you are like a crafty person. Right? And you are like making a thing or you're starting your own small business, right? We're moving away from like, weird predatory internet selling. Like, so let's pretend you like sell x product. Right? And you want to start your own business. Right? You do need I think you need if you're going to market on Facebook, right? That's a legitimate place to market things. Right? You want visibility you want lots of people use it. You want people to see it, especially local people in your community like you're talking about. I don't if I'm like a, you know, a baker. I don't want to advertise my my bakery on a radio station that is broadcasting for our hundreds of miles,
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right? That's not right.
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That's not it's not gonna be helpful. Call me. I'd be like, what do you live let other two hours from you. Sorry. I told like we were on the way home I ranted to make an about that very process of like what a
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terrible
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customer service interaction where you broadcast and some lady in Branson calls us needs a dog walk tomorrow. And you have to say, No, actually, I'm not in your area, because I'm three and a half hours away. Like,
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that's, yeah, that's messed up, man.
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Right now. Yeah, business owner for being like negligent and who you're reaching out to. So I totally get
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that's a good point. That's true. That's true. But like,
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I still need I still need to delineate my business. From my like, very own personal self.
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Yeah. Right, like so you can,
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because you don't want to be posting like pictures of your dog in the same little timeline as pictures of your baked goods. Right, it sends a weird message. It's cluttered, it's jumbled, you need like a dedicated,
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you know, bakery page. Right.
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I'm only using bakery because the first thing that jumped into my head, sorry, but like, and it's delicious. And I love baked goods, let's be real. So like that you need a separation, because it needs to display your business. Now you can like obviously share it, you know, you can share it from your own personal Facebook page. You know, that's part of the marketing aspect. But they do need to be separate. Well, and I think even if you are going to sell like online, if you're going to sell like vitamin supplements from the internet, yes, still probably. And separately, because it's weird. And I think that like your one personality trait is I sell vitamins. Like what, that's weird. I'll do that. Here's I'll thread this needle back into in the limbs. And we could totally get off this topic because this is raising my blood pressure. But what what it's doing what it's doing when people convert their Facebook private facebook page into their sales center, they are leaning on the techniques of an MLM who What do they say they'll do first, your circle,
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right as a family.
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So that is their audience that you immediately turn to to sell to. Because that's who you know, and you already have you already have 300 people following you. Wow, sell to them. How awesome is that? And you just start selling them and you said you know you were out your customer base. You were your friends and your family because then all of a sudden you're the person who's like, Oh my gosh, you also sent me another bagel. You don't need another bagel I bought one to help you and now stop talking about Yeah,
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yeah
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it's just
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Aaron same as pulls out.
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Well, I mean, you you kind of talk about like that. I don't say like that entrapment of things like that. It really is as I never well. There's been a few times like like you will call these over the phone that definitely Sam um, I called Sam artists, which is not the term but I I use is now that are gonna lie. Hey, is this air is too good to hold good. Olivia. What do you are you are you talking to me? I don't phone people. And so like to have people like contact me in that regard. Like oh, hey, like I heard that you like this stuff. So now like I'm kind of more like intrigued or like, Well, like I know he's big trying to sell me something. But now I'm very interested into like what he's like wanting or they are wanting is I there's been several times where I've been kind of caught in that where people were like, Oh, hey, like are you interested in this? Um, there has been a time where I can't remember what it's called. But we are a Bass Pro Shop in Louisville, Oklahoma City and we got Fraps talking to like no, not a timeshare kind of thing but it's like hey, you know it's your chance to Window those like Yeah, get like a week vacation at some like resort thing. Yep. And we know he's signed up for it. And I see resort he was like Texas somewhere like get some golf retreat. And we signed up for it and you know, we completely forgot about it. And then like, a month or two later, this call people call it Hey, this is ball the ball from Whatever services is like, oh, who? And I think the first time they call on me, I panicked, and I hung up the phone immediately. I was like, Oh, I don't, I don't know who you are. And they told me again. But it was sketchy every single time because they told me from like a different number. That was, it was just different, like every single time. But like, it wasn't the important like, date, date, or it wasn't even from like, you know, the same like area code or anything, it was just like a different number. And so for me, and I'm like, okay, that's a little sketchy. Like, I know, you're from the quote, unquote, sane people. But that's a little bit kind of sketchy. But there's been times where, like, I've been in conversations with people like about that like, either in, in persons. The worst for me is either I'm like, Oh, thanks. I'm good. And like, walk away. or other times, like, oh, what does this mean? Oh, tell me about that. Like, oh, that's crazy. And then I trapped myself? Well, it's hard because
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you're trying to balance like not being just a complete jerk with also being I don't want to hear that. Trying to be like, polite and stuff. And then they like, you feel like they're abusing your politeness because I keep talking like, No, no,
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that that's not what I meant. So there's been there has been a sci fi several times in person over the phone, I was like, pass things by. So there's been times where that has, you know, I've, I've, you know, hung up the phone block the number and like, I don't want to deal with these people again. That's why they call you from different numbers. Yeah. And so I get that, but at the same time, but you don't need to be alone like this. All you have to do, it's not that hard. With with people, it's so like that just kind of how I have not handled but like been a part of situations where it's like, oh, hey, what are you? Ah, there's been a lot of times, especially in on college campuses, where they don't use too much when I was in college before, though, apparently, way back in the day, they have a lot of like credit card, people, like on campus, or like college kids, like give them crap, like, hey, you're broke? Did you like money? And so I'm sure let's have a Saturday, I'm not sure. But like, I heard that being kind of like a really big deal. And I remember our author, being like, do not get a credit card when you're in college. Because people will try to offer you stuff. And I'm like, I don't I don't like talking to people. Like why would people offer me a little little weird things like that, that I that have experienced through through my time dealing with I've never dealt with a pyramid scheme. In many words. I did have a friend that was a part of a super sketchy program that was quote, unquote, affiliated with Amazon, where they would send them like someone's order. And it was your job to like, check the order, like make sure like, Oh, yeah, that's right. Like, this is what this is, and then you pass it up and like, hands off. And surprisingly, they never got paid. And they did it for like a, like two weeks or something. And they're like, Oh, hey, this is a, we should be doing this. And I remember listening to them kind of break it down. They're like, Oh, yeah, they know. They had a they had a sponsor on like, indeed.com. And so you were, you know, we emailed them our resume there, I thought, Hey, you guys got great communication skills. Let me tell you about our program for like an off base of Amazon where, you know, we it's our job to check people's packages that they get, and then we shipped like, then like we should do, then you guys like chip back to us. And then that's what we know, like, whatever they're getting is legit. And I was like, oh, that automatically sounds sketchy. That sounds terrible. And so they got like, a few packages. You know, they got like Google bar coding revolver, like oh, you know, it says, you know, this is the thing that we're supposed to these people associate so they get, they boss up and then set it off for the day. Like, they did it for a week or two. And then they realize, Oh, this is not a real thing because we're not getting it. aid is though they, they, quote unquote dropped out, but I just remember that was like just hearing them tell that it's like, oh, that's horrible and like yeah, we didn't really think too much about what we were getting ourselves into. I'm like now I don't think you did because I just something that would have completely go off my mind something even feasible. So that's not bad.
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Oh man also quickly, timeshares. That's the thing that like on paper sounds great. But in practice, you're like, what the heck man was going? Oh, totally, they don't. Because I've listened to some of those before. You're like,
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Wait, what? And I've known people
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that have done it. And I've like, like, they physically like, have so much like weird stuff that they like, can't do it. So they just like, here. You can go here. It's fine. Like, done that before. And it's a really weird, really weird thing. Like Yeah, and like this sale, the sales people are what did kill you? Because like, and I'm premise, it sounds fine. It's like kind of okay. But the people that are in charge of like selling those are like the pushy is people in the world.
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100%
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AG, what are you doing? Well, and
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I think part of that too, is that those people know, inherently that they are trying to fill a tub with the drain open. Right? They know. Yeah. Or just constantly leaving. Yeah, right. It's high pressure because they know that they're going to lose seven the next day for every one that they get today. So they've got to keep people coming in coming in coming in coming in with more enticing offer and it is just it makes you again, I bristle every time those people start talking about that because
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Nah, no. Yeah. Oh, man. Well,
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there we go. There's most of the show. I'm accident. Hey, guys.
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Welcome. Hey,
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what's going on?
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30 minutes is fine. And that's fine. Oh,
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other than other than that, con, how was the rest of your week? Oh,
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it's been it's been it's been good. We
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have we what have we done? Done?
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Well, we're not not having as many dogs in our house anymore, because we will have stopped traveling for spring break. So like at nighttime. I don't have nice, crazy. pugs staring at me in the dark, which is great. Always about is right. But yeah, no, we've been I've been trying to get the yard prepped for spring and just hanging in there. Really? I don't know a whole lot of interesting things going on, unfortunately. But yeah, other than that, it's just kind of one of those weeks where you're like, a lot of stuff happened, but nothing happened. It's like kind of trivial stuff. Yes. Like just like a bunch of little tiny things that don't add up too much. Like at the end of the week. You don't sit down go. Ah, look what I did. It's like I
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did so much. I'm tired.
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So, anyway, yeah, that's, uh,
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that's when it's ready for the sun. All right. Ready for to stop raining because my backyard needs to dry out for a little bit.
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Oh, man. Okay.
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So this is why I teach weather in the spring though. That's pretty handy. We can just like look outside like, Look, see precipitation, boom, now that like look outside and have all kinds of observation time.
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Ben Aaron, hello. Um, we're going to go take pictures down in Stillwater. Tomorrow it was day 130. So yeah, tomorrow we're gonna go down and just take a couple pictures. Because the boss wants to and so fair enough. We'll we'll go we're gonna do that. And then Saturday is relaxing laundry. And then kind of what we talked about last night after my mind Have resettled and was on was unblocking. We're going to kind of do a an old classic movie binge day where we will watch movies and then Sunday, I will be studying for my Oh get exam which is Monday. Okay, so what was the what is the Oklahoma general education? Like standard 10? Ha. Base basically the main test that you need to be a period Oklahoma. I will be I will be taking back Monday with it was it was always conveniently scheduled. The past few weeks and especially last month, I scheduled it twice. Both of them were canceled due to the weather which conveniently it was. The entire state of Oklahoma was snowed on Yes, I should have I should have had this as big as last month. And in January. Every time it's either been like, oh, the system's down or, hey, you can't get here and there's feet
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of snow. We can't.
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You're right. You're right. I feel you're right. It's fair, though. Fair.
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system down to nine feet of snow. Okay.
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That's what that's what I'll be I will be doing Monday. Right? Well, you
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should, you should explain to the listeners why you're watching so many movies this weekend. This interesting little thing here. It's kind of a I had we had to do similar thing. Right? Well, so let's hear about this. I want to know.
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So I hold on, let me go get my book. Okay, hold on. Oh.
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All right, man, this is gonna be quite a movie marathon if you had to write a big comprehensive list about
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it's not like a super big list by any means. It's just whatever I wait for this list is
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like, whatever. He's like an unrolled the scroll and see that thing where like, bounces across the floor, like goes down the hallway, right? It's
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just a smaller list. Just Just to kind of get it. Get Shelly acclimated to wild one wonderful world of crazy.
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We would think that she'd be somewhat activated by now.
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That right, so I hadn't mentioned like a quote of something from the movie cap something. Right? Which
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nice movies. I have completely forgotten about until you take that you're saying it's like Wait, what?
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Yeah, so great movie by the by. I, I was in there. And so was sitting there like, Oh, yeah. Hey, so it's a great movie. And then we were talking about the other thing I texted you guys about the Disney plus TV show called Bluey, which is about it's an Australian TV show about a family of wakeboard Australian shepherds who just kind of do you know, fun little adventures as a kid. It's a good show, but it's actually very tolerable. And it sounds like it's actually the next one. It's an honorable Hughes. My my friend and his wife, they have a he's a year and a half old. And I was down in Oklahoma City and they're like, no need to watch this kid movies like no you don't you understand out of all the kids show that we watch. This is like the most dollar roll in most like and like the best one. So we're watching that. And then we started talking about you know, animated shows with you know, little critters. And then then that someone said a quote from the engineer top five favorite mice movies of all time, by the way. That episode. Okay, good. So we talked about that. And I was like, Oh, hey, like we have like, we have amazon prime we just watch at Sundance, so put on your tap dance, watched it mine was blown the entire time. Then, like there was a woman's arm dance, who knew? They do have boilers so there's there's a little thing that popped up because it was like showing the credits, the credits minimize. And then you may you may also be interested in and then it gave me the A true of movies that, like I was sitting there and I'm like, Oh my God, forever. Why are you foaming at the mouth, which I can't confirm or deny? I was I was just sitting there. And like, I was just scrolling on the bottom. I'm like, Oh my god, like, this is so great. Like, oh, wow, like this movie. And she's like, what? And then I had to realize one of the second hardest things I've ever had to do was explain the concept of a wackadoodle to a 24 year old individual.
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I mean, yeah, like, it's. Yeah, I thought about it. After you said that. It's like,
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Man, that's not wait. Okay, yeah, hold on. So it's like,
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that meme with the guys at the baseball game. He's like, got the girl, like, hold their head. He's like, yo, look, and she's just like,
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yeah. So like, there's this kid. It was like before that so there's, there's chicken or there's a rooster named chanticleer. And he seems like the more you keep the dark sun comes up. It's raining in my and like to drop due to like disappear or play disappears. It was like, freaking out. No, there's there's an owl. He's a bad guy. And like, halfway through, I was like, Oh,
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I sound insane. I need
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I need to need less medication or a whole lot more.
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That's all
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like, okay, you're right. This is crazy sounding.
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Yeah, so the next Raka doodle was I actually wrote down, baby not seen classic explanation point. ferngully. So underneath the title screen of castle nap, but again, great movie, your board was rocky doodle. And Claire,
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are you telling me that Raka doodle is on Amazon Prime right now?
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Yes. It is like $1. So you need to get on that.
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So
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mad that for $1. So so next to rocky doodle was ferngully the hate that was was ferngully I love which again, that was another really difficult concept to explain to my girlfriend of over a year. And then next that was we are back a dinosaur tail or dinosaur story
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and dinosaur story. Getting that one is impossible to explain. That was messed up, man.
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Yeah. And I was like, it's about dinosaurs that live in our die.
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It's a dude with a bolt in his eyes. It's all
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yeah. I don't I don't remember the plot of that movie. No. I mean, because I think when I was living by myself in in bartlesville, I saw it. Oh my gosh, it's a great movie. Click on it. Like watch like the intro? And like yeah, I'm done. And so what a while since I've, I've watched it. Next. That was the age master. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. So I didn't even bother to try to explain that. And then what's the point of forest and then secret secrets of them. So I made a list. They're all for rent or to buy on Amazon Prime. And we're just going to rent the movies and watch all of them this weekend while we like work on some stuff, because I was like, I mean, anything else to do? So like I don't really want to go anywhere. Like so this is what we'll be doing Saturday. Vary the majority of time. So yeah, that's that's what we got. Do Honestly, I don't know where or how like it actually started of like, Hey, we should watch Yeah, so dance and then it just snowballs into this, this mess that I'm in now of I have a list of all these 1980s 1990s cartoon movies and a little tiny notebook and like what am I doing? That's That's why we got pictures. And then we got
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weird maybe marathon?
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Yeah, we're not so you know, it'd be Yeah.
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So you should, you should be aware
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that
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I've been married for how many years now? And, like 12 months, and she still hasn't watched all the movies that I've been like, Oh, you should watch this. Watch this. Great.
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Okay, yeah.
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And then, again, with this similar thing happened to me as well, like, because I do that listeners will know that I speak in movie quotes sometimes. Or like, show quotes add, like, y'all just look at me, like, What's that mean? Okay, hold on. Wait, let me just, like, before we got married. Susan had never watched the back to the feature movies.
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And I was like, What?
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No, this is illegal was illegal. We got
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we're doing this right now.
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We, we have to, it's just important. Like,
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just because like,
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in order in order for you to understand a lot about me, and where I'm coming from, I need to put together this like movie viewing package, or the weird stuff that I say sometimes. You need to have watched Back to the Future, it's important for you, and sort of what's happening in your life in front of you. Because it will make more sense. If you have context. For the weird stuff I'm talking about. It's just gonna save a lot of time down the road with me how to explain that. Yeah. Yeah. It'll literally be shorter to watch the movie than for me to explain this.
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As Aaron found out prior to
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I mean, to be fair, at one is that one is a doozy. Right? If
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he did different and when you start
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like, like, like he was talking about, would you start explaining it you just like, you can become less sure of your sanity, right? Like, I mean, I mean, it makes more sense. Saying things sentences like Well, I mean, it makes more sense when you watch it and like it's not really that weird. And then like you turn into the you'd have to be their guy, right? Yeah. Nobody wants to be there. It's very confusing. Are you like
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talking? Yeah.
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Usually to see it It's okay. Don't Don't worry. It's fine. Yeah, it'll make more sense.
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That's pretty good.
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That makes me exciting. Let me too excited to hear the follow up about how it goes. And is she gonna be confused? Is she she enjoy her die watch either. He's gonna be like, it's gonna be like what did you just maybe want?
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Me really like rocket doodle? Not rocket Oh, she really like get them and she really like that. That's Bluey that we that we've been watching?
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You're doing good so far.
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I think if I if so if I played this I think you have to strategize on how I order them. So I think firm goalie would be a hit
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underrated Robin Williams classic just to be
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a Master Master
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I could be a hard Miss cuz I'll be honest I don't like page mess
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that's really what the heck so fair enough. I get it we're back probably gonna be a mess. Once upon a forest I'm kind of balls on the fence y'all now when I have no idea
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Oh,
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probably Froggy doodle. I'm gonna I got I'm gonna sell it hard. I think we can pull the pole and get one here though. I'm I got high hopes that and then today and probably not. So I am with the 1.5 out of one. So I'm not passing If I if I can at least get one I think pretty good. So I think I think will be will be
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interesting. Okay. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen once upon a forest
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either
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well is on Amazon.
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I just pulled up the synopsis and the first thing I thought was Hey, this movie is basically ferngully and like,
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I mean, you're not wrong I
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don't think I've seen it like this. These screenshots do not look familiar that kind of poster kinda does.
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Maybe but like yeah, I don't apparently,
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you have been googling this fervently because it my little list here says people have also searched for it's like pagemaster rocket doodle secrets. So apparently these movies go together quite frequently. Apparently the early 90s was a time of much angst in Woodland areas in the animated world. I mean, it was like environmentalism was becoming a thing right? It's we made all these movies about it and looks nobody cares still. So that's fun. Turns out didn't work. Try more. Yeah, this is not familiar. Yeah, I'll definitely be interested to hear what she thinks about this one movie that I don't
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recall.
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It boy it looks familiar. So maybe.
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I don't know. I think a lot of the the animation art style of the time, like most of the woodland critters, kind of look the same. This kind of like, this is Hanna
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Barbera anime what it is? Yeah.
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production.
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Yeah, that's
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tasto made things after the 60s. I had no idea.
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Well, because I thought it was
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like Huckleberry hound, Yogi Bear, Flintstones,
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cuz I think it's based on other IP, like the furlings or whatever, or something like that. What? I'll be honest, that they're brought back to make the part of that show.
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I don't know. I
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don't know. I'm mostly just familiar with like, Scooby Doo, and Hanna Barbera. And that's mostly what I have. I have a distinct memory of like some of these other things like Flintstones, obviously, but the rest of it. I was unaware that there was like an active company or they still do they still do know remained active until 2001. Whoa. That's much longer than I thought they
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did.
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Because they're bought by Time Warner. Everybody's bought by Time Warner eventually.
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Time Warner Disney. Yeah, wow. Yeah. Okay,
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that's me for a little bit of a loop. I associate Hanna Barbera very strongly with 1960s I mean, yeah, all of the ones that when I see 1983 Hanna Barbera my brain was like what what do you record scrap a little knelt down? They're like Wait, wait, wait, wait,
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hold on. Okay, all right. Sorry. Okay.
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citation. Yes. I am very interested to hear about what she thinks about this. If she's like, understands you better or has concerns about afterwards you?
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Cuz I mean, that's all I got. I just pulled up. I did. Top 10 non Disney animated movies. And
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they're all my dogs.
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Right? That one get that one gave me 33 non dizzy. Oh, click on this. I'll go through a few. Let's see. So this one is covered in ADS. So hold on here. So obviously there's no yet non Disney Land Before Time. Ambrose Eldorado Oh, yeah. Spirited Away, screaming the Prince of Egypt. Anastasia. What
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do you think the Prince of Egypt was a great movie.
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I like it. I like really.
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Really also, it's very striking.
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I like this. Okay.
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97 Anastasia
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I also forgot Anastasia existed until just right now. So
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number six has the page master. So let's go. No. Nine the number seven one princess. American tale Iron Giant. Okay, okay, great movie was Ice Age. I want to I didn't like that bereits stallion of the Cimarron movie. Brave Little Toaster
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Oh
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first of all shout executive all holy cow I forgot that movie existed as well. Do like scared all the listeners who are like relaxing. Or Sunday hanging out
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or be as Rapunzel um, How To Train Your Dragon Princess Mononoke a
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why is that why is that below Brave Little Toaster? Oh, what is it? This better not be in order list. Aaron. Better not be below Barbie mood. Get out here when Harrison
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Rise of the Guardians Thumbelina make.
1:01:10
Why is this just not a list of Studio Ghibli movies was having
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a relatively shorter list?
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Oh, talking about Diane Lee. That doesn't fit any. Anywhere, man. That's the answer. When people say anime animated movies are lame, and they don't make you feel things like watch Grave of the Fireflies. Yeah, do it. You know? Like, animate lamb and animated movies in general are boring. Like, Oh, yeah. I watch that movie. And if you're not just bawling, and yeah, come on.
1:01:50
You're lying to yourself. Yeah, the list was skewed afterwards. There was. I think it's just like the top bite. Like a list of just movies. I don't know. Okay. Okay, not ranked, like the back.
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But if only if only we knew someone that could rank these movies eventually, man, I'd be handy. We'll do that after we rank the top 10 mouse movements. I mean, obviously, we got high priorities. Man, this nice movie thing is such a great character for movies, right? Because they're like, I'm assuming. And yet they can be mighty. So?
1:02:39
No. Yes, sidetrack again, sorry. What about you,
1:02:48
Brandon? What are things? Uh, what's the How was the weather? stuff? tie ins? It's wet. And where's trucking along? We got to the point now where
1:03:02
we have
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like, this time last year, like we talked about school without spoilers. Like, yeah, just like, school canceled. So like, again, the point in my plans were I was like, what was I gonna do? I don't remember.
1:03:25
Like, what do I do? Next? Huh? Oh, well, he's gonna wing it.
1:03:33
Anyway, we have plans, obviously. But like, I don't have like details like some other stuff. I was like, okay, I've done that. And now I want to change everything. And I want this like, right. And now my brain my brain has been in like, how do I take what I have and adapt to it and make it better and more useful mode to like?
1:03:52
What? blank mode? So
1:03:57
that's fun. Other than that, not a whole lot of work. Every week, we're gonna have a new superintendent. That's the news from Reno. So
1:04:11
that's it, that's always a wrap.
1:04:15
So that'll be interesting. That's always a weird thing. When somebody like that high up the power structure is like new, like, hey, so what's that mean? Are they gonna, like, do weird change things? Or people are like, kind of in trepidation mode, right? And just because it's a lot of unknown things happening. So it'll be interesting, because the last one, when she was became superintendent, she had been at the school in another capacity before that. So whenever she became superintendent, everyone was pretty much like, aware of the course that we're gonna be on. Sure. But since she's leaving, and this dude's coming in, we're like he's like a big unknown from like, elsewhere. You know, a lot of people it's kind of like,
1:05:05
what's that mean for us? What
1:05:07
are we gonna do?
1:05:08
I don't know. So that'll be Jose. I don't know. Yeah,
1:05:16
I'm sure those transitions are never easy. Really? You know? Yeah. Whenever you like whole system wide direction and initiative. Yeah, it's weird because like, it doesn't affect my, like, daily stuff very much, right? Because I like don't have interactions with the superintendent ever, you know, just because it's not ours. But like, the system is the confusing bit, right? Because you're used to operating inside a certain system. And now it's going to be like, is the system going to be different? Like what's happening? So are wuzzy.
1:05:56
Ah, that's about it.
1:05:59
Maybe this weekend, I'll make Susan watch one of those movies. I haven't she hasn't watched yet. So we can be on the same page there. And maybe I'll try to do that. Well, Erin and Shelby are doing this. So we should watch 13th warrior, because you will watch that movie with me.
1:06:17
I know. I really liked that movie.
1:06:22
it too. I'm gonna try to sneak it in.
1:06:26
When I especially never understood what was going on when I was younger. But now that I'm older, and I'm like, this still makes, but I'm still competing. Anyway.
1:06:38
Yeah, it snows a tiny bit. There's monsters Vikings. It's fine. They go boom. Nailed it. And the dude that's the head Viking guy plays the voice of the
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I forgot his ADR.
1:06:58
Yeah, the jarold in Skyrim. Hey, go. Wow, this guy over external Look, there we go.
1:07:07
Through that is okay.
1:07:08
Yeah. Is the voice of that. Like the big head Viking guy? Yeah, yeah. First on click. So that's good. That's point news. That goes back to your voice actor, Mind blown thing from your text to when you're realizing Who are those people who voiced in capsule dance? Like you had to admit to your other mental explosion of like, Oh my gosh, that that is dead.
1:07:31
Yeah, I still I my brain has somewhat calmed down. But it's those like, I don't know. I don't know if you guys. I did it.
1:07:43
Mostly because like I said, I forgot caste and dance as a movie. But that is a weird thing. Right? Like, because there are people who are just voice actors, right? And you kind of recognize them randomly. Like the guys that voice like the Animaniacs. Right? There's a ton of stuff and you can recognize them every once in a while. Like, oh, hey, that's you know, roughly half Ninja Turtles. That dude is like a super famous voice actor. I forgot his name all the sudden, but like, you kind of picked him out. And then there's people that are like, I don't normally do voice acting, as far as I'm aware, like john Rhys Davies, and you're like, what? Would he didn't hear
1:08:19
what's happening? Here I'm
1:08:23
just you know, surprised. Yeah. Yeah, not
1:08:26
sad. I'm just like, whoa. Like, all of a sudden you're like listen to animate like, well, when you listen to the dub of Prince's non Okay, like, Borden what in the world. And why is Oh, who else is that? I'm shocked by
1:08:44
he plays plays calcifer
1:08:48
IMDb. Yeah, yeah. Well, that. Crystal?
1:08:56
Yeah. Billy Crystal. Yeah, for right again. Yeah.
1:09:01
Capital. Okay. Sorry. Yeah.
1:09:04
Yes, there's a lot of like the ones that just like randomly just show who was the other one and that you were surprised about? I don't remember. He said,
1:09:11
Oh, I got a look at my list here. So I was gonna look back at
1:09:13
your text. But yeah, there was Wow, that'd be a surprise one. Be like, what?
1:09:22
David? Oh, yeah. We
1:09:25
said Don nos. I was like, that's not somebody you expect to be a voice actor. Right.
1:09:33
It's like in other films. Like,
1:09:38
David does that two shows up? Oh, yeah.
1:09:40
Mark Hamill is a huge like, Yeah, he does a lot of like, some a little movie called Star Wars, whatever. Um, but like he'll just like, you know, he does. He did like a lot of the Batman animated series.
1:09:54
You mean the best, the best Joker the best Batman
1:10:01
Yeah, yeah, I mean done.
1:10:03
Oh, by the way, that's it was on pure just want to watch some old Batman episodes because I do that sometimes those are on there. Yeah, Batman The Animated Series is on there. Oh man,
1:10:13
they go. That's really awesome. Yeah,
1:10:19
it's it's surprising because some people I don't know why they do that.
1:10:23
I don't know if it's like
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the director of the movie like seeks them out like, Oh, I need john Rhys Davies voice for this character, it'll be perfect. If he's just like, you know, if his agents just like, Hey, we're you know, there's not any like movies, but there's this casting available. You want to try it? And he's just like, yeah, sure, why not like and then all of a sudden he is voicing an animated voice. I don't know what you like, what?
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What?
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Like, I wonder how that works. I wonder if they like, or if they're like, I want to do voice acting? You know what I mean? Like, I want to do I want to I want to be an animated actor, right? Because, you know, you hear many times when people are creating a script, or they're putting everything together, they'll have an actor in mind to play the role. And I wonder how much that goes into whenever people are putting together an animated movie or like a Yeah, somebody's voice in mind. Yeah, I wonder if they do that? Because like he said, a lot of that because there's, there's full of movies are full of stories. Like this movie was actually written with this person in mind, but they turn it down. You don't mean like,
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Yeah.
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See, I wonder about how they pick who's going to be a voice actor. Can't stone dance. Right, did they? Because I can't imagine john Rees Davis was like, I want to voice a cat. That's my life goal. could be wrong, you know, I, but like, I don't know, maybe he does more than I am not aware of this also very possible. Because you know,
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like,
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that's the other thing too, like a lot of people that are like voice actors don't get a lot of credit a lot, right? Because you're not, we're so used to associating the face with the role. And not necessarily the voice. And a lot of these people are extremely versatile. And sometimes they're voicing different characters, and you have no idea until you look it up and you see the credit. You're like, wait, it's that guy. What the
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world are like,
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oh, that lady's Oh my goodness. I don't even sound like it right? Because they're so good. That you don't even know.
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Yeah, well,
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so like the lady who does all the voices on The Simpsons? I forget. Yeah, right now right where it's just like so crazy or one of my favorite ones is just because again connections to move things these watch the past is Peter Colin, the voice of Optimus Prime from the who then reprised it in all in the live action ones. Yeah, but he's also like the voice of your and. And he did the sound effects for the Really? Yes,
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these sound effects are what?
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The predator all that guy, right? He did that. Yeah, he's like, this breadth of like, he's he's an Autobot. Leader. He's the kind of depressed donkey and he's this space killing fighting thing. Yeah. Crazy. Oh, and he did. Oh, I just I just he did monitor monterey jack in a Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers.
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T Really?
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Yes, he did. Oh, man. It's just
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my favorite childhood TV show ever. Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers?
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Yeah. See, again?
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Sorry, I just, I like the work of voice actors again of like,
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how do you
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a span something like like that? And that's quite in the rain. But also, like, how do people find you? Like, I don't know, like, can't give a headshot and they, you know, go through things like people have to sit down actually listen to tapes, or? I don't know, like it just that well, that whole Yeah, I imagine there's like a they have like,
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audition reel,
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right, where it's a lot of different work kind of showing their range and how well they do it. Yeah. And they probably have a different sort of other Talent Agent probably also has a different skill set. Right. It's a different it's a slightly different circle. But like I said, a lot of them. Some of them do overlap. That's why like, you know, you get like random people that are really famous. And they do that to bolster certain roles, like, famous person acts in excellent. Like, you know, Robert Williams was the genie. Right? Like, oh, but you know, they that's the CD I can grab those big people like, you know, what Simba is like Matthew Broderick, right, like, Oh, yeah, James Earl Jones, like the Lion King boys I can cats is actually insane. Like, look at the people who voiced those, like,
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What?
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How can all these people? So that's a slightly different scenario than just like, you know, those other movies that have like slightly less studio power, but you're still getting like these really great, underappreciated actors and actresses, they're doing these roles that, you know, like I mentioned, like you're not, you know, you don't even know it's the same people a lot of times and they're so good at what they do, and they are, it's just kind of an underappreciated thing, because it adds, so it's so important to the animation is the voice that goes with it.
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Right? Because it right?
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It has to be a certain way. And a lot of times, you know, the draw to the voice and the inflection,
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you know,
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to try to capture the performance, so that they get that goes to the animators and their skill as well. It's like a tag team thing. Yeah, and it really can be quite impressive. You know, really, I mean, it can be amazing, because you're you watch it just like an old movie. You don't really think about it, you don't think like, especially the older ones, like the ones I was talking about that era you like somebody drew that?
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Oh, yeah. Like, by hand.
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And I'm not taking away anything from Digital animators, because that's his own set of challenges, right? Because I can, I can barely use Microsoft Paint, man, come on. So like, No, you're right. That skill set is so impressive where that dynamic between voice actor and animator to get such emotive performances from drawing and where you as the audience member don't even question it. You know, he's watch it for the movie and the story. And the emotions you feel you don't think like, like, it's so good, most of the time that you don't even notice. Like, you don't your brain doesn't compute, like, how many people and how hard it was to make it do that. Right? Well, Walt Disney whenever he was putting it together his production house, that was the one thing that he was really worried about was, would this be immersive enough, because up until that point, animated, things weren't, and nobody thought that Yeah, feature length movie would hold that attention or be as immersive. So they pulled out all the stops for that person. And they continue to do that, obviously, but like, the way they studied animal movement, and they drew and they did all this stuff. So like when, when Snow White came out, 1937 people were completely bowled over and completely shocked by what they were seeing on the screen. Like it was so so impactful. And to think that that's true work, I kind of write that movie off from a, you know, 2021 standpoint of like, it's not really great. And but I'm, you know, you're mentally comparing it to movies that were made today, right? Yeah. But for Yeah, you're right. If If you imagine going to a movie theater and you saw that in 1937 your jaw would be on the floor is happening. This is so amazing. It is again to think like ours, it's so colorful, right? into things like each one was you know, each pain was hand drawn within they went to the color and then they you know, they put it into production like
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it is just
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and then to think of what they took in they do with that these days of the voices in satisfaction. And the the the meshing of Android and computer animation in a lot of films and then you know, the full on computer generated stuff these days, like, we really do take for granted of just how immersive like when I'm sitting there watching an animated film I'm bawling at it. It's like this is animated. None of this is real and yet
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yeah. Boy, and you just have a lot of the bigger ones well, even though you know,
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the basically any of them I've seen recently, the one that comes to mind is from a big production studio, but like, when you watch a movie, like frozen to write all of my complaints about that movie
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are
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like story and character driven. The animation and the voice acting are not like I don't know, cuz I just consider them like characters. Yeah, right. Your brain just goes like, oh, why would I do that? But you're not thinking about like, he never wants Do you think like why do they draw her that way? are what did that lady, you know, what did the actress sound that way? Because it's so flushed out as a character, that it's just, it's there. And so you just you're critiquing, like, just like a normal movie, right? All your critiques are the same as with a live action movie, right? It's about the story and the plot and that movie and all the rest of it. It's so good that it's kind of beyond beyond reproach, there's no problems with like, it's not like, oh, man, I can't believe they animated that way. I can't believe it did that. It's like,
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let's plot a little shaky, like,
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start critiquing it not on the fact that it's generated and totally made like that. Yeah. Like, you're actually looking at the story and the plot and the story structure and the thought, because everything else is so fleshed out in dynamic, that it just you just accept it as part of the thing. And it's so well done. That, yeah, that part is not a thing that you question, really. Except for like, you know, you could say the same things like, well wonder why they chose to use that camera angle. But you know, it's a drawing, but you you're thinking about it in those terms. You know, I
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mean, like, why
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did they draw it from there? But even in my brain, I don't think why they draw it that way. Or why did they animate it that way? My brain says, Why did they shoot it that way? I know that's not technically correct. But like I talked about the camera angle for this. And you're like, wait a minute, there was no camera involved. The camera caught me again. Yeah.
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