cavernous in nature

Collin found a skull. Brandon is in debate preparation. And we count John Grisham entries.

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SUMMARY KEYWORDS

rain, flooding, courtroom dramas, John Grisham, legal thrillers, 1990s movies, My Cousin Vinny, To Kill a Mockingbird, 12 Angry Men, A Few Good Men, The Rainmaker, Primal Fear, legal cases, Missouri prairie, frost wedging

SPEAKERS

Collin, Brandon

Collin  00:00

Music. Welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out. Your host, Brandon and Collin on this week's show, cavernous in nature, ahoy. Ahoy.

00:19

How's it

Collin  00:21

going? Pretty good. How are you good? I am recording in a remote location currently. So, I mean, it's, it's normal one, it's, it's our where we grew up, but it's fine, still, still remote. It's not like I'm in the bush somewhere,

00:39

but no,

Brandon  00:44

man, well, did you? Did you survive the deluge of water and rain? Yeah, did? I didn't get near as bad as they thought it was gonna be. So good news, good news, no, they were like, we had a very high like, tornado threat thing. Oh, no, I'm not, like, a professional meteorologist thing, but I was looking at the radar going, How so, like, I but we had, like, we didn't have some pretty big wind and, like, a ton of rain in like, a very short amount of time, it was like five on the Easter. It was like five to 10 minutes of just like brutally intense, hard rain. And then it was like, okay, like, I could it was very difficult to see the other side of the street for a moment. There right rain, just like lashing off of rooftop, yeah, and then it was fine again, yeah, yeah. It was lot though, but add that on top of the rain from the previous five days. So it was quite it was quite floody about town. You know? So, yeah, there was a lot of high water, a lot of flooding. We weren't walking in the park, yeah? Yesterday, yeah, yeah. Yesterday, there is a little creek that runs through the park, and there, there's a little bridge that goes over, like a little foot bridge thing. And you could definitely there was some suspicious debris lines running parallel to the river, up on on this footpath thing, because it's like, it's a culvert, right? So it's like a solid thing where this culverted through, and it's where the water comes through. It's like, basically the beginning of the creek, you know? So it's not always where it's a headwater situation, really is what it is. But when it rains, all the drainage rushes through there. And it's like, really a lot of water goes through there really quickly, sure. But there was definitely some like leaf debris lines quite high out of the banks, right several feet away from the bank. Yeah, there's two right. Ah, we had high and then another one, so a little bit lower, so you can see there was quite a lot of water. So that means there would have been a at least maybe a foot or plus of water running over the top of this bridge. Wow, right, which is a lot for where this place is, right? So, a bunch of water. Oh no, yeah, oh yeah,

Collin  03:38

we, we ended up getting just over five inches of rain began, yeah, it was a lot. It was so much that the last little rain drops we got were like, Sunday morning, and we were still under A flood watch until this afternoon at like three. Yeah, it was lots of things underwater. Oh, did it rain there? Sunday afternoon? Um, oh, maybe it was Sunday afternoon, I was gonna say, because

Brandon  04:07

the one here is a ripped through, right about, well after two. Oh,

04:12

you know what? Yeah,

04:14

okay, okay, okay, so that was pretty much it fair. Fair.

Collin  04:16

It was roughly somewhere that, because we were watching, we were watching, honey. I Shrunk the Kids because we were trying to think of a movie, movie. And I was like, What do you think happens in this one the game where the kids were like, they shrink the kids. I was like, yes, yes, they do. And so here we are. So we were watching like

Brandon  04:36

that. Have you ever been so sad about an ant death in your entire I came in. No, you cannot,

Collin  04:43

no, no, nobody has and you know what, nobody will again. You never will again. No, bugs, life and but no, no, nope, it. So, yeah, we were watching that while I was making lunch. So yes, it was roughly around that time. So yeah, which was I. Which was good. It was a it was good, but, yeah, we had so much rain. And of course, it's also that time of year where all the oak stamens, as mentioned on last week's episode, in full effect, right? And so our gutters were just like, am I full of stamens? Am I full of water? Yes, the answer is yes. So I was, like, in the downpour, like on my front porch, like reaching up and I it's so janky I have, I have my gutter cleaning stick that I found that is just the right curve that allows me to reach up and use it like a hook to kind of shush things out and down while I'm walking. It's perfect. Is it just a cane? You found ditch? There it is. No, no, it's a

05:44

stick. And the lady,

Collin  05:47

our roof line comes really far down on the front of the house. I can just stand and, like, I could kind of do it with my hand, but having the stick really helps me get it all so that's what I was doing for like, 10 minutes in the downpour, getting getting that cleaned out. Because I was like, well, this needs to get done. There you go. So that was flush it out. Why? What's going just like,

06:10

yeah, me trying to

Collin  06:12

just give it a little boost, and then it would flush out. And so, oh my gosh, yes, it was so much rain. But yeah, we, we, we survived as well. We were actually very this this weekend was really nice. In between the rain, we were doing lots of outside time we have I learned that the prairie that is 15 minutes south of our house is considered one of the best examples of Missouri, of native Missouri prairie left in existence. Well, hell. Well, you know that? I know. And it's just like, well, we just so we go there, trying to do there one or two times every season ish, just to see and talk about. And there, though, you can see the difference between the burn side and the not burn side. And, you know, we've talked about all that stuff,

Brandon  07:06

and we came back with some collections. Oh, so is this allowed to remove things from the prairie? Oh, yeah. Well,

Collin  07:16

yeah, because this one, this one was not technically in the weary it was in a ditch. Okay, okay, right, yeah, I know we're not harvesting, just

Brandon  07:25

making sure, making sure. I was like, I didn't want you to admit anything on there.

Collin  07:32

No, no, but no, it was really neat, because we got to talk about the we're walking along and all of a sudden, like, what are these weird mounds here in this Oh, crayfish. That's right, that's right. We got to talk about prairie crayfish. And at first, the kids did not believe me, what? Well, it's fine. Look, look, it's okay. See the stream that's like, 45 feet that way? Yeah, they're over here, and they burrow down. And as they burrow, they make these little cones to kind of protect them and seal everything in and keep them safe and overwinter in and and, oh, look, here is one that's open and a print. The crayfish carcass is right here next to it. So yes, I and bird footprints,

Brandon  08:17

and mysteriously, next to it, I can't imagine what's happened.

Collin  08:21

So weird, so weird. I don't know. Why

08:27

could it be these crow feathers over here? I

Collin  08:30

know, unknown why this is here. So we talked about that. So I got to show them crayfish. And they were like, wow, that's cool. I was like, I know. We got to see some of the early paintbrush plants, flowers coming up with the produce named after. Got to see all sorts of cool butterflies and stuff. But along the side of the road we're walking and all of a sudden, Noah says, what is that? And I say, looks like some sort of bone, but it was not just a bone. It was, it was, it was a deer skull. And without hesitation, he

09:07

said, Can we take this home? And and I

Collin  09:11

was like, Well, yeah, What

09:15

did mom say about this? What did

Collin  09:16

mom say, You know what, this is, what I wanted to get to me was like, Sure, bring it home.

09:23

Wow. I was like, okay,

Collin  09:25

so we, we, I learned. So I was ignorant of what you do with bone. So I was like, Oh, we're supposed to bleach the skull. Like, I know that part, like, either you're supposed to get flesh eating beetles to mince off all the meat this, this skull had been in there probably since last fall. So that part was not necessary, not necessary. I didn't need to boil any fat or flesh off of this. Didn't didn't need that. But I was like, Oh, we could. We should bleach this. Then I'll also sanitize it a little bit.

Brandon  09:53

Doesn't that usually just mean you're supposed to leave it outside so you can

Collin  09:56

Sun bleach it. Yes, yeah. What that? What the people. What they do is, I thought they used actual bleach. They don't. This is really bad for the bones, apparently. Yeah. What you do is you use hydrogen peroxide because, okay, this will also bleach. Now, the real the people who do this that are going to do, like the European mounts, where they want, like the deeper white color, yeah, what they use is they actually go get the hydrogen peroxide that they use in hair bleaching at salons, higher concentration, higher concentration. And they paint it on because it's a paste, and then they wrap it in

10:30

saran wrap,

Collin  10:32

and that keeps it all in, and you leave it on there for 24 hours. We just soaked ours for 24 hours in like a 3% solution, yeah, in a bucket, and it's fine. And now is next to our reading nook. But I had this lot of we have a deer skull in our house now it was like, Honey, you know, there are two camps in the world. There's the camp that has skulls in their house, and then there's the the camp that doesn't, and we have most definitely placed ourselves firmly in the full cost of line, like we have, really, because there's no like in between, right? You can't, no, no. Kind of are you have dead animals and you do not have dead Yes,

11:15

that is exactly yeah.

Collin  11:17

So, so they're very excited about this. We're already putting together some a lesson plan on that to look at some of the plates and something Wendigo exactly that we've Yeah, the weird hand bones next to this were a little weird, but I think it's fine. We'll try and reassemble the whole thing. We need the full moon to do this. Probably

11:41

true.

Collin  11:46

But I anyway, this is going, this is also, it's springtime, so this is also going well with the with the owl pellet that I found in the park that's in our freezer right now. We were, we were out doing an Easter egg hunt that Megan's folks had put out for the kids. And I'm standing we have, I hear the barred owl. It's, I think we have two or three in our area. They're so loud at night, it's so much fun. I've seen them sitting on top of the telephone poles and stuff, and I was looking for eggs, and I looked down, and I'm like, Well, I know what that is. So because I'm a dog walker, I pull a poop bag out of my pocket and I pick it up and of course,

12:29

of course, as

12:30

one does, yeah, because you're supposed to dissect

Collin  12:33

it and then glue the skeleton back together and see what you got. What you're supposed to do, mandatory, that's what we're gonna do. It's what it's what the current plan is. I don't know what the other options were, but Megan. Megan's dad definitely looked at me and went, please watch your wash your hands before you come into our house. It's fine. It's fair. It's fair. So this is said, I never wash my hands when I'm in your house. All right. This is, you know what? I'm gonna actively unwash My hands, yeah,

13:11

wipe them on things

Collin  13:13

aggressively,

Brandon  13:15

and hide your paper towel. What? Now? Okay, oh my gosh. So that's, yeah, it's been

Collin  13:26

a, it's been a whirlwind. But then we, we went to our, our local art museum, and it's not a, it's weird. I think I've just tried to describe this place before. It's not like a Museum, Museum. It's a, it is an art showroom, like, they call it a museum, but it's not like for old pieces, like they actively rotate through. They put on collections, they do expositions, and, you know, have people come in with their artwork. It's, it's a teaching museum as well. So they have, this is a museum that is well known for its pottery, especially like of South American origin, but they have global pottery as well. So they decided, yes, and they but it's not, I'm gonna say pottery, but it's not like a tea pot. It's like, oh, this is a glazed earthenware rep, like, like, fish hook that would Yeah, they're

14:28

like, sculpty, right?

Collin  14:31

They call them pottery, but it's like, that's kind of a misnomer,

Brandon  14:34

yeah, but I mean, it's made of clay, Clay, but like, yeah, they're more sculptures, not like, like plates, yeah, not like or plates and bowls and stuff. Yes, yes,

Collin  14:48

yes, um, apparently they have like, I've, I didn't realize how they have people come from Art Institutes from all over the world to come and look at their collection and do this stuff. But. Uh, we hadn't been in several, several months, and they had put a new one together. And this one was neat. Of it wasn't any new pieces, but they were doing just rearranging them, putting them different collections of like kinds. So what? Oh, one of them was about,

15:24

what was it? Oh,

Collin  15:28

it was called portraits, or photos, photos, okay, but it was a different take on photos, so I did have to look up the process of what a lithograph was.

Brandon  15:37

Oh, yeah, okay, like,

Collin  15:41

this is, this is what it was like. This is what they do, if they're like, is it a painting? No, it's a lithograph. And this is, oh, my goodness, is this a, you know, is this a? Is this a painting? No, it's an engraving, where they engrave the metal, and then the put the paint, and then they put the thing. And the sound bit like Bill Cosby there in

16:02

the little Yeah.

Collin  16:07

But we really went, because once we found the heading exhibit that was called Orange, orange, orange to meet you, something like that. Whatever it was, it was all of their paintings and stuff that had orange in them, which is Noah's favorite color. We were like, Okay, well, we, we have to go now. Well, I mean, yes. And then the basement was a was called collected chaos. So this was all,

16:32

Hey, what are they doing in my room?

16:36

Stop touching my piles. I know

16:40

exactly what's in there. We

Collin  16:42

do, oh, this was where I realized that it doesn't really

16:49

matter.

Collin  16:51

Museum sub tweeted by an art museum. And so, of course, what we do every time we go to this museum, at any museum is in each room, we have to, we pick out two or three of our favorites, and then we have to go and explain why they're our favorites, right? Kind of talk about them a little bit in that way. And this is where I realized that all the ones in the basement like it. I couldn't really put my finger on it, but after collecting later, and kind of looking at them, I was like, Oh, those were the three largest paintings I'd ever seen in my life. They were like, like, floor to massive ceiling and like, 13 feet long, kind of paintings, right? Was like. I was like, I'd like this Rembrandt style is enormous, like, but, but because it's also a of Modern Art, you know, it is definitely one of those where you look at something and go, I don't know what this is like. There's no like. It's not a classical painting museum. So that that also makes it interesting to have discussions about and talk about why we like things, or really, like, what emotions is this eliciting right now, because we'll have those two of we'll walk by things like, and, you know, the kids will say things, you know, like, oh, I don't like that one at all. I don't I like, I'm like, yeah, why don't we like that one? What is that making us feel? Or, why does that, you know, make them look at stuff, and this just feels too chaotic. I don't like the disorganized, you know, she didn't like anything in the basement, which is basically because, like, Were you looking

18:31

wounded when she said these things, like, hey,

Collin  18:37

just don't take, like, if you took a picture, if you took an overhead shot of my desk, and then, just like made a painting out of it, it would fit really well down here. I don't know how I feel about this,

Brandon  18:49

but no, it's pretty cool. Is our this is our art exhibit. This is what we gotta take. Photo top down, photographs of people's desks and work areas. Oh, my

19:01

goodness, I like this a lot.

Brandon  19:05

This is great. Oh, yo, yeah, yeah, I'm thinking, I'm into this. I wonder if I can get people at work. Let me do

Collin  19:22

just have to get rid of some of the identifying information. Yeah,

Brandon  19:30

there's like, just, like, put a folder over that. But like, Sure, just the general vibe of like, like, turn the paper upside down right. But like, let me see this. Yes, yeah, it would be good.

19:46

Yeah, it was

Collin  19:50

that was nice. And we did that just as the rain started to kick in that day. So it ended up being, being really nice. We ended in. The day into the exhibit, they were just doing a student art exhibit as well. So to see the, see the students, which was interesting to see, like, okay, what are we presenting? What are we talking about? And they have this one. I don't know if I'm gonna send this to you or not. It's called fishing for light. And what the person had done is he had taken a light pole, carved this, what light pole, kind of bent it to make it give us a little hunched form. It's holding a fishing pole. The fishing pole goes down into what is a pond. But the pond is like a translucent, kind of opaque surface, and underneath they have sparkling lights. So that kind of looks like the fishing for lights for the lamppole. I was like, Oh, that's cool. I like the idea in this concept very much

20:51

whimsical. Yes, yes.

Collin  20:55

It is, indeed, lots of whimsy. And this, yes so and it's also neat the when we go to these exhibits, because our one of our neighbors is, like, really, really, really well known modern painting guy, and he actually was the original curator of this museum. And so every now and then we'll come around a corner and be like, hey, that's our neighbor's painting. Okay, I know that guy. I know that guy. Talk to him because he walks by. So that's always, that's always fun. And the kids get a kick out of seeing that, because they'll be like,

21:35

we know. I'm like, Yeah, I know. I know we do. Like, yeah, we know people. It's fine.

Collin  21:44

He's the guy

21:45

years

Collin  21:46

ago, Noah had a little dirt hole out by our sidewalk that he was excavating into a little mound. Oh, okay, okay, yeah, where he would toss the change into the dirt hole, and it just, it was so cute. I

22:04

I'm like, Okay, this is

Collin  22:08

so thankful for neighbors like that. That made it nice. That's fun.

22:20

Well, sorry, excuse me. Like trying to not hiccup right directly into the microphone?

Collin  22:24

Oh, I'm actively drinking water and trying to cough quietly and mute myself at the same time going on both ends of our microphone.

Brandon  22:31

So that was awkward and too long, awkward post. Yeah. So yeah, our weekend was pretty good. We took this time to do nothing. It was great. Nice watch a lot of movies, and like, once, once I got figured out how to make Amazon work on the TV season, was just

22:50

like, well, what are we watching next then? Huh?

Brandon  22:52

So we finished up the old Clarksons farm season three, and so we're waiting for a month or so till the next one, and then we've watched all kinds of other random things. So that's what we did, because my wife is who she is. The first thing we had to watch, of course, was twisters. You know, obviously, as you do current weather situation or no, we're watching tornado movies. Losers get out of the way. Yeah, we did that. And then we had the some of the fam over for Easter lunch. Oh yeah, action, right, Dad pop by, and then her mom and her husband came over, so a little Easter lunch action going on. That's pretty good. So that was pretty much it. I peeled potatoes and then stayed out of the way. Yeah, yeah. Job so brilliantly. Peeled potatoes aside, I had nothing to do with the rest of the preparation. Oh, set the table. They go, these are my jobs. Stay out of the way. So that's pretty much all we did. Got testing tomorrow. Oh, man, oh man, yeah. So my strategy to make the kids take their mind off the testing and not worry about too much, because I am not telling them what their project is for Friday. Oh, why not? I'm like, Oh, just because I think it's fun to not tell them things. I get a great kick out of this. I hate it very much. But I'm like, I'll tell you later, because we've, we've been doing, like, the assignments we've been doing are, like, I've been telling them, Look, this is really important. You have to treat this like research for the project we're doing. Yeah, okay, you need this for later. Like, well, what are we doing? I

24:54

can't tell you right now, but just know that you're gonna need this for later. Hold on to this, right? Don't keep telling, I just keep telling them things, like,

Brandon  25:03

I've assigned your groups for you already. Like, what? What do you mean? Yes, groups for what? I can't tell you that, but I can.

Collin  25:13

And enough questions, moving on, next Yeah, moving on, next question please.

Brandon  25:19

So yeah, double check those tomorrow. But yeah, we're doing, we're doing the social studies group project that I haven't told them about, like I've told them about the science, what they know, what they're doing for the science. One, the river map thing I told you about, that is happening Friday, right after testing, where I was trying to make sure, like I was trying to make sure we have things to focus on after the test is done, right? So we will be doing these things. We're going to be doing this. So we're gonna, we gotta do this minor inconvenience, and then we'll get back to

25:43

the real science action here. It's gonna be

Brandon  25:47

great, great. But I did not, have not told them what their social studies project is, right? We are doing a debate, right? Wow. And they have been assigned sides of the debate we're talking about Athens in Sparta, Greek city states, right? Oh, yeah. So they're, they're getting assigned different ones, and they have to debate like, which one is the best one? That's what they're doing. So they have part, they have a group, they have a team, and then within that team, they have a partner, because each there's three debate topics that they will be arguing right, like the economics of each city state, like the values right, and then, like the something else. I can't remember what's on my list, but they each get a thing right, so they get a little team to focus on that. And so they have to stand up and tell why they're just the best based on the information of that, which are the things that we were reading about all last week and finish up today, right? So those are all the slides and stuff that we were reading and like writing about or those things. And now they have to use them in their debate, plus anything we read in the book too. So, like, they have all that. So they're going to be doing debate prep. We're going to talk about structure, basically, just like come up with we're going to be, round one, why you are the best. Round two, why your opponent sucks, right? And then Round three is, like, closing statements, or, if you want to address anything the other side said, right? That's when they can you get with their whole group. And they can come up with points to argue, like, while they're listening, right? They can be jotting down notes and talking about things. And then

Collin  27:36

I, I think it's, I like the fact that you are assigning the sides, because that it is, requires a little bit more work on their part, but also it makes it so that, I mean, it's going to stretch people

Brandon  27:52

a little bit, yeah, and it gives them an opponent, right? Because if you let them pick, then, what if they all pick same side? Well, that's not a particularly interesting debate, right? I mean, they could debate me, I guess, but, like, that's not very fun. So okay, we don't, we don't do that. And I tell them, there's, there's a score sheet, right? The score sheet is, like, if you use a factual statement in your argument, you get a point, right? If you have, like, an impactful statement, like a mic drop, boom, good point for that, right? And then we taught up all the points at the end. And that's how we decide who wins, like, who has the most facts, who has the best like, arguments, right? So that's what we do. So it's basically opening statements, then like, rebuttal round, which is like, just talking about, like, why they're not great or whatever, sure. And then closing argument when I'm done. So we'll do like, one of those per day. So we'll give them several days to, like, work on their stuff, and then they can, like, they so they'll work within their teams, but then they can, like, help present to their whole group, you know? So they can kind of work together as a bigger team to get stuff going, but then they have to present to the class afterwards. So it's it's, sometimes it's fantastic, right? And it either goes like, super super well, or like, really badly. So I've done this for just a couple years. I started this a couple years ago. It's like, a new thing I did. And like, one year it was like, like, the first year I did it, I had some kids that, like, did really great. And then I had other kids that, like, they crashed so hard, right? Because they, they had no, like, actual argument, right? They thought they did, but they actually had nothing to say. So they got up there, and they're just like, yeah, yeah. And then, so, yeah and, like. Like, yeah, I think last year was it last year, I can't remember there, like, there was one side where, like, one side was, like, clearly winning, like, by miles. But then they had some people that, like, one of the groups just bombed so hard, like, they didn't do any of the stuff I asked him to do, and the other team ended up winning. Like, oh, because they just like, it was like, it was like a like, the first round was like, it destroyed them. The second round it was like, really close, like, and it was really even right. Both sides were like, there was, like, one point separating them, maybe. But then the third round that they just bombed, like, that group just bombed so hard that, like their whole team ended up losing. Oh, no, see, this is good, because now I can tell them this, and this kind of helps motivate them, right? A little bit to be like, listen, doesn't you think you think you got it, but like, you could let the whole side down. You know, could let the whole side with this. So don't be like, I've seen it happen, right? We like, I've seen it happen before. They're like, what really like, yeah, yeah. So buckle down. We gotta go.

Collin  31:22

Yeah? We've seen the crash and burn before. Yeah, here's your here's your message, exactly. So we gotta be safe, right?

Brandon  31:31

I like it. So yeah, that's what we're getting ready for. So they don't know it yet, but that's what's coming soon. So it's our post test, one of our post test activities to kind of keep us focused on stuff, so we have things to do, you know, so we don't just be like, Oh, we're done. We don't do anything. No, no, no, no, no no, this. We're doing this.

Collin  32:01

Well, that'll be good. Sounds like fun? I think,

Brandon  32:04

yeah, it usually is pretty fun to watch it. So they enjoy it. They have enjoyed it in the past. So we'll see if this group also enjoyed it. That's that's the hope here. So speaking of arguing,

Collin  32:19

oh, oh, oh, real quick before we get there, sorry, we're gonna get there. I was I meant to bring up. I was looking at this, is this? This is this will be a Forte's. I want to talk about this now, because then we'll dive into this, this other thing. I think we should do this now. I did look at something that we had tried to plan for roughly this time of year. Oh, yeah,

32:41

I saw that too.

Collin  32:44

I was like, Huh. Look, we tried to do a thing and look, nobody else would know about this unless I brought it up. I'm just gonna say, I think I'm gonna preemptively say that we should do this challenge for next time that we record, I wanted to make sure that I mentioned this before I forgot, because I was like, I've got to do this. Otherwise it's not going to happen. We're going to miss it. So okay, I think we should do this challenge. Okay,

Brandon  33:11

next week. Yeah, absolutely okay. All right. There we go. Look at this. Ladies and gentlemen, back to back. Top five list exclusive here.

Collin  33:21

Ha, so 289 Yeah, I was like, you probably let the ladies and gentlemen know what the heck we're on about here that might be useful last year, one listener that might know we play back the tapes last year, we set forth a challenge for us for this year. Yeah, we forgot about it, which is fine, because it's not surprising, not surprising. It was on the calendar so it didn't fall through the cracks, kind of but the challenge that we said for ourself was too for Arbor Day. We should do a top five Missouri trees challenge, yes, and we are recording this on Earth Day. This Friday will be Arbor Day. Okay, so when we record next time we're right here, we're right in the middle of that's

34:09

true. It's forgot to go for it. Then, yeah,

Collin  34:12

we just gotta do it. So I Oh, look at that. So, but for this week's challenge, we're gonna get back on track here. Oh, wait.

Brandon  34:21

Do we have a fair update? By the way? Do we know? Oh, yes, we knew. Let's check fair update. Sorry, yes, that's okay. I just thought about that too. Sorry, we're going out of the segues are falling apart today. It's all gone wrong. Yes,

Collin  34:38

I should just have this on like, a same tab

Brandon  34:41

or something, but like, yes. Okay, so last half

Collin  34:46

day we had Oliver Anthony, yes, and some car thing. Oh, right. We had the power powery. Powery, 410, sprint cars, right? Sprint. Cars, cars, cars. They are still missing August 11 and August 16. Oh, okay, so still holding

Brandon  35:09

out, then holding out for Skid Row.

Collin  35:14

Oh, come on, 11th, that's what I'm thinking.

Brandon  35:20

Okay, all right, so I just wanted to update here see how it's going. But okay, yeah, man,

Collin  35:27

because they've got to have more very variety in here. Because this is aside for pretty aside for flow rider, it is looking even more random than normal. Now it's looking and blues travelers, I guess Blues Traveler, I choose fine, but like outliers, Judd, Anthony Anderson, Queen Westbrook, very country, so I think they need to. They gotta pick up something else. We gotta

Brandon  35:55

step it up, guys. Come on run, put us on your committee. Okay, well, guess

36:03

best fair grandson

Brandon  36:05

ever, right? Put the oh brother crew on, on this. We will, we will knock it out of the park. I promise,

Collin  36:15

State Fair Park. Oh,

36:17

that's

Collin  36:19

maybe, maybe

36:28

the love feel right.

Collin  36:35

Speaking of arguing, oh yes, we had as a challenge for this week to pick our what top five, yes, courtroom dramas, yes, and this. I don't know why, for some reason, my brain, when I see when I hear courtroom drama, my brain immediately goes to TV shows. I mean, that is

Brandon  37:00

true. This is where they lie. Currently, when I was looking at the list trying to fill out my top five, I was noticing a big pattern, right? This is a genre that is, like, very 90s heavy, very right? Like, yeah, so many 90s movies, and like, it's kind of tapered off. There's just a couple here and there ever since, you know, 2000 right? Yes, like, it's not the hard hitting genre that it was, you know, that that during that time. So I think that is very interesting, because now I do think about it as television or series based, right? I think that's where a lot of us transition to, maybe, but like the movie aspect, seems to have fallen off a

Collin  37:55

little bit. I do agree that it has. It's very, I don't know very, I don't know why. I mean, we've moved on to other things. It

Brandon  38:06

might be over saturation problem. It might be one of those, right? This could be what's happening, right? I think, I think that's, I think we can, might, we might be able to blame somebody we have to put on watch on this list, right? I am proposing we might need a John Grisham counter. Okay, we might need, look, I think we might need, we might need a John Grisham tally. And I think the fact that we might need to have a John Grisham tally tells you about the oversaturation of the courtroom drama as a movie in the 90s, right? I feel like

Collin  38:42

it was like every year from one Oh yeah.

Brandon  38:48

On my top five, four of them are from the 90s, right? With two more honorable mentions. So definitely oversaturated, not necessarily in a bad way, because there are some gems, but I think we are. I think there was an oversaturation issue, and then that's why it went away, because people were just like, I can't watch any more super dramatic courtroom movies right now, and it's not making them right. I think that could be what's going on. Yes,

Collin  39:30

okay, but we'll work on our Grisham tally. How did you define courtroom drama? I think we have to start. So

Brandon  39:37

I was because a lot of these have, like, side plots, right? But I was looking for a large part of the story to take place in a courtroom, okay, right? That's what I was, kind of facing my thing, or, like, near a courtroom, right? One of mine is like courtroom adjacent, sort of, so, like. But the the main focus of the thing must be a trial. There should be lawyers prominently featured, right, like the lead actor should probably be a lawyer right, or the client right. That should be right there. So that's kind of what I was thinking about. I was thinking because one of the I had to demote a movie to honorable mention because there was not enough loitering happening. Pretty good movie, right? But the amount of litigation occurring quite small. So I placed it in the honorable mention because, because it's a good movie, I like the movie, and I watched it again, and it's pretty good, but holds up, but there was not enough courtroom, so there needs to be, like, lots of courtroom, Judge, things happening there. That needs to be the focus. In my opinion, that's what I thought about. What about you? I

Collin  40:59

Yes, I expanded just a little bit to say that the or the court room had to play a major role for part of the plot, whether it was like screen time in the court or like

41:18

there was intrigue

Collin  41:20

and drama around a court proceeding that involved the characters. Like it was kind of, like, did this? Did was the film centered around court and like, how that played out? So, yeah, mine, yeah. Well, it sounds like we're kind of on the same page, kind of on the same page. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. So, yeah, well, do you do you want to go first? Let me get some I gotta get some my notes pulled up here. So, yeah, that's fine. I'll go first here.

Brandon  41:46

So coming to you, hey, straight from 1997 1997 here we are, right and and our first tally on the John Grisham board. Oh no, already, already coming out of the gate with John Grisham telling I picked the Rainmaker. Okay? Ryan, with Matt Damon. Damon, Damon. So, so I definitely had to re watch this movie over the weekend, right? Because, like, I vaguely recalled this, but as I watched it again and for free, just randomly on the internet. So that's handy. So, like, pretty good, right? It's, you know, new. It's like that new lawyer coming into thing, right? It's a very like, seedy thing. I forgot he works for a guy named Bruiser, which there's two clues that bruiser is not on the up and up. Number one, his name is bruiser. Bruiser. Number two is played by Mickey Rourke, so also

Collin  42:50

his name Bruiser, yeah, yeah.

Brandon  42:55

This is how you know he's no good. But anyway, it is predominantly about like a litigation against a health insurance company for denying claims to a terminally ill patient, right? So this is very courtroom heavy, lots of litigation action like him cutting his teeth as a new lawyer, brand new lawyer, with his sidekick, Danny DeVito. So bonus points for Danny

Speaker 2  43:23

DeVito. I did too. And so I was like,

Collin  43:26

Oh, there he is.

Brandon  43:30

Now, I did put this at five because there is a very there's this other random subplot in this movie that's like Matt Damon falling in love with this woman that he meets in the hospital as he's ambulance chasing, who's like the victim of domestic violence. And like, this is, it's a very weird side thing that's happening in this movie. And I think, like, if you cut out all of that, this movie would be 30 minutes shorter, and I think better. So, like,

Collin  44:04

just for a long movie,

Brandon  44:08

this is a really weird it's a really weird he's like, in the hospital, because Mickey Rourke's little firm thing he's got going on is, like, you just go to the hospital. It's like, literal ambulance changers, right? He like sees her, and he, like, falls in love with her immediately. But then the scene is like, her boyfriend, like screaming at her and throwing water at her in the house. She like, what is happening? This seems wrong and bad on so many levels. Like, it's like, icky, like, what so the side plot there makes it a fair number five because the lawyering is excellent this movie. But there's this. There's some other thing that's, like, not related at all to the case. Like, really, kind of drags me down a little bit for me, but I put the Rainmaker at number five because he's very firmly. A courtroom, like, a lot of stuff is happening in the courtroom. John Voight is the defense attorney, right? John Voight being the bad guy, like, you know, he does so well, so doing good

45:12

as as he is smarmy,

45:13

right? He's being smarmy. That's right. Yes.

Collin  45:23

Oh, as he is good. Well, yeah, my number five is number five, because, does a large part of the movie take place in a courtroom? No, it does not. Does a major plot point of the entire film hinge around a courtroom setting. Yes, is one of the main characters, also a lawyer? Also, yes. Is it one that we have watched recently as a family? Also, yes. So this one was top of mind when I picked i a miracle on 34th Street.

46:04

Ah, this, okay, this definitely qualifies. Count it taught it up.

Collin  46:12

And sure I don't. You can choose the 1994 or the 1947 version, whatever I it's, it's the courtroom setting is, I think, I think it's the spill, it's a, it's a little weird on the technicality that they used to get off on this. But I'm not here to judge legal grounds.

46:36

We're here to watch movies, not be active judges.

Collin  46:40

I don't even, yeah, I'm not a judge. I don't even play one on TV. I just watch the movies about them and the lawyers that they play. So, no, I don't have a lot to say on this one, because the courtroom setting, I think, is about three minutes long for the movie. It's fine. It's fine. It's the crux of the whole crux. This is why I picked it. And honestly, when you say courtroom setting, because we just watched this one over Christmas. This one immediately came to mind, as far as I think this fits the bill, because it everything is is hinged around this so that, yes, I would say, that's fair. That's I will enter. Specifically I will enter the the two, the 1994 version to stick with our 90s themes.

47:25

Oh, okay, okay, you can put both

Brandon  47:32

my number four movie, once again, firmly ensconced in 1996 this is definitely the whole the main character is a lawyer. The whole thing is about the legal proceeding of a murder case, right? Presuming like did like trying to figure out who like is the client, guilty or innocent of murder, right? He's trying to get him off. I'm gonna go with

Collin  48:00

Primal Fear. Primal Fear, okay, Richard Gere and

48:04

Ed Norton, man,

Collin  48:08

young Ed Norton too. Right, very young and

Brandon  48:11

extremely young Ed Norton, right, like baby phase Ed Edward Norton. I think he might have still been Edward Norton Jr, at this point his career, yes, think, I think that was still there. So this is a pretty good, it's like, firmly in the, like, court thriller kind of subcategory. Yes, say, because it's, like, very psychological, right? And there's all kinds of twists and turns there. And, like, no spoilers, but like, the end is like, Oh, wow, what the heck? So, like, like, a big ending, right? So this is a it's but it's all about one very specific case, right? Where the lawyer is, like, uncovering all the evidence and doing all this stuff, right? I'm pretty sure the police were supposed to do some of that. That's fine. That's fine. It's no good. It's okay. It's okay. The second 30 minutes of Law and Order sometimes has lawyers doing that stuff. So we'll count

Collin  49:10

it not Not true,

Brandon  49:11

not not true, right? They gotta do discovery and all these things, so working to uncover all this stuff around this, like murder that has occurred in the church, right? So it's like this whole big, big thing. So, yeah, I'm gonna put primal fear, because it's pretty it's pretty good movie, right? It is. The rewatch ability is little low, sure, right? Little once you get the Yeah, right, once you know the end, like, this is one of those movies where like you, maybe you watch it like a second time, because then you can like you, you know what to look for all the way through. But then, you know, it goes down a little. It's still good movie. It's very well acted by Richard Gere and Edward Norton Jr. So, yeah,

Collin  49:54

well, and what's, I don't know, and I think the Yeah, he Greer, yeah. Gear. Plays the lawyer, and like the his his motivations, he really plays his own motivations well in this too, which makes this, I think, which is part of what makes a good courtroom drama is that it's not just about it's not just about the case, right? It's a bit of people trying the case and involved in the case that have their own motivations and desires and stuff, not just the legalities. Because there is definitely also a sub genre of legal dramas like that, I think does a little bit different of of No, this is about the technicalities and about the case and stuff. But, yeah, this is more about the trauma job.

Brandon  50:43

Yeah, yeah, that's true. This one does have the thriller aspect, but lawyer motivation of like, you know, he's trying to do the right thing and trying to do the stuff, and so that's, you know, it adds to the the overall going on here. So that's my number four. I'll put that one on there. Okay, I do also remember the first time I watched. It was

Collin  51:08

like, I I also so my number four is from, what is this? 1992 this one. I this one is, is famous for a couple of different reasons, but I like this because of the of the motivations of the people that are working on it. And I just also just really, like a few good men from 1992 you know when you have a movie that's basically known for

51:44

one line, one,

Collin  51:48

yeah, five words. It's five words people, you and everybody knows truth. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows that. And and even I was like, no, wait, what were the I had to go back and do, like, do a quick watch through and like, some reading on this to remember what the whole thing about this was, as far as following the orders or not following the orders of the Yeah, because it's a military court, it's a military court. I also like as well, because it makes it a bit different. It's not the Yeah, you know, public anyway, it's good So, yep, yep, that's a good

Brandon  52:28

one. That's a good one. That's true, that's true. I was wondering if you were going to put that because I didn't have it. It's not not appearing on my list. Oh. So I was like, Oh, I kind of didn't put on there. Okay. I was like, oh, oh, I wonder if Collin will, because I feel like, feel like, you got to

Collin  52:44

put it on there, right? It's just like, I think I have to get this is like,

Brandon  52:47

one of the movie. Yes, you know what? I mean, that's pretty good. Uh, speaking of another the movie, right? Number three, still in 1996 oh, here we go. And John Grisham, alert number two, oh, no, time to kill. Oh, no, okay, just excellent,

Collin  53:16

yes, right, it's got Sandra Bullock in it. Yeah. Sandra

Brandon  53:19

Bullock, right? Samuel Jackson, Matthew McConaughey, what more could you possibly want? My God, right, yeah, what, what other like? Come on, come on. What a power trio like? What? What you do? Come on. Man, yeah, 96 was a good thing, yes, yeah. So very charged movie, right? Very charged and so the whole thing about, like, it's, it starts out as one type of case, right? But then, of course, we change a little bit because, you know, spoilers, Samuel Jackson does the thing and he kills the guys. Now we have a whole other situation unraveling, right, in this whole southern atmosphere, right? So this is this movie is just excellent, like acting this movie is like, so good, right? This is movie. Like, I used to watch this movie over and over and like does. So it's this excellent movie, right? I think it's really, really good. So that's why it's my number three.

Collin  54:27

Like it. I love it. Okay, well, my number three sticking with things in the South. We're going to, we're going to throw in one that is a To Kill a Mockingbird, 19. Oh, nice. I put this one on here. It's one of those. Again.

54:51

I

Collin  54:53

have watched this a couple times, and I think it's just a very it's a very good. Movie, right? I guess, yeah. Peck, yes, Gregory Peck, with Atticus Finch, it has the family implications for man standing up for his beliefs, you know, and how you know, how that's impacting within the community and all these things as well. So it definitely is the drama behind that and the impacts that it has on larger outside of the courtroom, which I think is important too, and I think is good for what kind of what a good courtroom drama does is kind of shows the impacts that the case has on people around it, not even just the people you know, not even the lawyers of the defendant or whatever, like just the town, the town, right? Is Here is what they're what they're after. So, yeah, very good.

Brandon  55:48

That's a good one. That is really good one. Um, sticking with not being in the 90s. Oh, right. My number two takes us back a ways as well, right? I think this movie, like this movie, is good. The storytelling in this movie is excellent. The cinematography that is used to tell the story in this movie is in credible like the camera work, right? Because I am, of course, talking about 1957 12 Angry Men. Oh, right. This is a one room. The whole movie takes place in one room. Yeah, right, the juror room. Good, right? Yeah, so, like telling the entire story in a single room, right? The way they play with the camera, where it starts out, like certain ways it starts moving in, like, real tight, the longer they stay in there, right? Just, it's all, you know, and they just go gritty as they, you know, go through these personal battles and like they're kind of

57:08

going through their own biases and all this stuff. That movie's just excellent, right? So I put 12 Angry Men is my number two, right?

Collin  57:15

That's that I have not seen that movie in a very long time, and I am adding it to my watch list right now. Oh yeah, it's

Brandon  57:22

so good. Like, I just randomly thought about it, like once last year, and I just, I was like, Susan, we're watching this movie because she's never seen it. And she was like, Oh my gosh, what in the world, every single actor in that movie is is so good. Yeah, right. It's so good. There's 12 people in a room for the whole movie, and it flies by so good. Well, I mean, with,

Collin  57:44

yeah, you power in that room, yeah, well, you've got to. It's so good. You've you've got to. You have to have

58:00

stellar

Collin  58:02

actors for a movie to pull off a movie like that, like it, oh, yeah, relies only on that for

Brandon  58:09

sure. Yeah. Henry Fonda Lee Cobb, Joseph Sweeney, Martin, Bosman, Ed Bagley, I mean, just wham, wham, wham. So Jack warden. He hit him in there. So good. And the fact that they never know, they just refer to themselves as numbers, like, you don't even know their name, yeah, you know, like, all kinds of stuff about their life by the end, and it's you never know their name, yeah? Well, how you couldn't, right? Yeah, yeah, that's how it was supposed to be, yeah. So good. So that's my number. That's my number two.

Collin  58:40

Number two. Okay, my number two bring us back to the 90s, and adding a bit of comedy

58:50

to this list

Collin  58:53

is also well known for for a scene I'm of course, speaking about My Cousin Vinny from 1992 Yeah, the four degrees top dead center. Like it just,

59:14

I,

Collin  59:16

I like the, you know, it plays with different tropes, you know, the city guy in the country, and, you know, the different, you know, the the different, oh gosh, you know, it's a culture clash, fish out of water kind of story too, which I think is makes it all the more interesting in relation to that too. So also, it's just, it's just a lot of fun. And I really enjoy watching this. It's a lot of fun, so

Brandon  59:43

fun, in fact, it's my number one on the list.

59:46

Oh, nice, right? So good, good, good.

Brandon  59:50

I think it does really good job of, like, being really good about, like, the courtroom stuff. And it's also hilarious, right? Yeah. And. Stand out. Marisa Tomei, right, obviously, right. Like, the dynamic between her and Joe Peggy is so good. It's so good. Like, her character, like, makes the whole movie, right? It's so good. Like, the fact that she, like, goes through this whole arc of, like, she wants to help and do all this stuff, and he's all mad because he wants to do it all himself, and then she ends up being the whole key to the whole thing anyway. And

Collin  1:00:27

so it's, it's, it's great, it's well done. I lose, I do. They do make the movie, and it is the comedy is just, it's a funny movie, like it's just, it's just straight funny. So, yeah, so no one that is as my number one is not really a funny movie, and it's one of the movies that I watched that I think really were more in line with this, this genre, this one definitely is more of a court case, more than courtroom drama, and one that I remember watching and just and just being enthralled the entire time I watched this. I'm speaking of Aaron Brockovich, Oh, nice. There we go. One that the entire thing is around, you know, building a case, building a case, talking with people, knowing people like everything that goes into that, putting together the mode, all of these things go into this, the I you know again, Sandra Bullock, sorry, not Sandra Julie Roberts, so sorry. I had another tab open and I saw Sandra Bullock. So Julie Roberts, fantastic acting. Actor in this. And just, I don't know, I don't know this, this, I it's one of those where it's a, you know, a peek behind, kind of what's going on in this, retelling the story, and kind of clean, cleaning up this mess, and trying to get what's right for people. So I really enjoy this. This movie quite a lot.

Brandon  1:02:03

Yeah, that's a really good one, right? Very nice, very nice. So,

Collin  1:02:08

did you have so I had, you had Rainmaker, Primal Fear, time to kill 12 Angry Men and My Cousin Vinny. I had Miracle on 34th Street, A Few Good Men To Kill a Mockingbird, my cousin, Vinny and Aaron Brockovich, beautiful, did you have any runner ups?

Brandon  1:02:26

I did. I was gonna mention To Kill a Mockingbird if you did not, because I was on my runner up list. Right? The movie that I demoted right is, of course, John Grisham, watch number 319, 94 is the COVID the client, okay, right? This one is, it's very much about the case, but it's like, it's not, it's kind of light on the lawyering action, right? Yeah, the they talk to the like the kid talks to the lawyer a lot, yeah. And then the lawyer and Tommy Lee Jones talk a lot, but like, there's no like, court case happening, right? No, it's just about, like, it's just about trying to get the kid to know. Like they just, everyone wants to know what the kids saw happen, right? And it's like a push and like, the FBI is trying to get to him and talk to him, and the mob is also trying to get to talk to us like you just have like Susan Sarandon and making questionable legal decisions by helping your client, right? Also shout out to returning actress, my second favorite, Susan, Susan Sarandon, right, Susan sarand is live, right? She's good, yeah, no, it's really good for me. But, like, so it's, it's a I watched it again right over the weekend. It was kind of like, it's not a courtroom drama. It is about a case, right? But, like, some of the stuff they do is, like, I don't even know that's legal. Story, right? It's a good story, right? But, like, it's a little light on the actual legalness, so I didn't put it on the full list. Gotcha, that's the only one that I want to mention for sure, because you mentioned kill knocking bird already side. It wasn't

Collin  1:04:19

gonna do that. Okay? I was going to do a think, I think another Grisham watch list, Runaway Jury.

1:04:29

Oh yeah. Mentioned that one when I was talking about this 2003

Collin  1:04:37

is that one that I just, I think that's just more familiarity with it, like, Oh, I think I knew that, and I didn't bother looking into it. So I didn't want to mention that one. I also can't do one of these without mentioning, you mentioned 12 Angry Men. I am going to offer the monster piece theater by alair Cookie. 12 Angry men's version of this. I don't know if you remember this, but I find this.

1:05:05

I do remember this.

Collin  1:05:09

I don't know.

Brandon  1:05:11

I'll send you this link. There's a remake of 12 acre in with Jack Lemmon. Apparently, I don't think I saw that one. So I know

Collin  1:05:17

this is with Cookie Monster, who says 12 Angry Men, with 12 very angry men. And then it shoots to three cows. And he says, Oh no, I'm sorry. We've called Three sad cows. About three sad cows. They actually go to the court. It's ridiculous. I watched, I watched this, and it's only like, dude, the whole sketch is only two minutes long. So anyway, it's ridiculous. I did also want to bring in Megan's favorite I had mentioned that this is a genre that Megan absolutely loves, which I think to say that Megan really loves John Grisham, but yeah, Susan

Brandon  1:06:04

also really loves that's what I learned also when she's Susan has apparently read a lot of John Grisham,

Collin  1:06:12

yeah, and that's because Megan's all time favorite courtroom drama movie is the firm from 1993

1:06:20

Oh, Okay, nice. Yes,

Collin  1:06:25

this is, this is one that she and I have actually watched together one long time ago. And I don't know if she really likes this, because it has Tom Cruise or Wilfred Brimley in it. I haven't decided and be able to figure out

1:06:37

tough call, really.

Collin  1:06:40

But her, her very, very close second was a few good men. So she is firmly in that camp. So I did want to bring this up, so we had that excellent input. So, excellent, yes, oh, I have to send this to him. Didn't even send you the link for the Sesame Street monster piece, theater rendition, sorry, I just say it over to you. Don't go, okay, you can watch the camera down here. Tell me. Tell me if you remember that, or if this is just popped up in my brain from my fever dreams, maybe

1:07:13

before. Yes, so good. I

Collin  1:07:17

like this list. I have re added a few things to my watch list. All right, so I am 12 anger. Man is definitely one of them. Oh yeah.

1:07:27

So good. It's a good one. So good cinematography, master class, right? Like, wow. It's beautiful. Love it. Oh man. All right, hey, I have

Collin  1:07:42

to find, I have to find my Haiku hole on i Alright,

Brandon  1:07:45

there we go. So vamping, wow, try to remember where we wrote things. I do this where I always use two I can't, you think I'd be able to find my notes at by now, but no, it's always like, where, which, where did I think dramatic, right? This is why you need a big yellow legal pad, apparently, apparently, to, like, throw on the table dramatically, lots of legal pads, right? In these movies, by the way, right? If you're wondering, that a legal pad count, dang it All right, next time. Oh yeah, the rain maker. There's like, 47 so, okay, this is

Collin  1:08:27

a callback to topic from last week. So here we go. Oh and, and I have a follow up on this, actually. So I'll read, I'll read the Haiku, and then I'll do the follow up. Potholes patched with care. Gravel hums beneath new tar, smooth paths reappear,

1:08:45

lovely. The

Collin  1:08:47

The city has come out and is fixing some city roads and and when I will say that I had mentioned that some of the some of the potholes are quite, quite large and terrible, which doesn't you know, it makes people like screaming at MoDOT to fix the city and city to fix the motor. So like the city, the county, the people have had started to describe some of our potholes as cavernous. So they were getting

1:09:14

real human in nature,

Collin  1:09:17

in nature, to the point one was so bad that last fall, somebody planted, went to Home Depot, sorry, went to Lowe's, got bought a tree and planted a tree in

Brandon  1:09:32

the pothole to tie in the next week staging of top five Missouri trees, yes, to start raising awareness for how horrible this pothole was. So

Collin  1:09:42

anyway, so those are, those are fixed. So I can report that at least at least two that I know of that showed up on our community Facebook pages have been, have been fixed. So COVID,

Brandon  1:09:53

I guess, I guess, not only do we need to teach them about Governor. Mental structures, but also about how potholes form, weathering and frost wedging. Lesson on this as well, because when you have the world like super gross winters, they just sprout, like frizzy like when your winter goes negative, 2050

Speaker 2  1:10:24

negative, 2050 negative, 2050 then, like, add in some semi trucks, Insta pothole, right? Like, you can't do much about that, and it's just just gonna happen. It is, it is people. So stop. Stay tuned for our discussion on frost wedging as well.

Collin  1:10:44

And oh, riveting. Hey, I'm writing it down right above top Missouri trees. I'm gonna stop frost wedging brands got a hot, hot three minutes on frost wedge. Oh yeah, let's go. Okay, expect that. Expect that. Follow up. Okay. Oh goodness. Well, lots to look forward to next time. Another channel, indeed, lesson on prospecting, will Yes, see if we can get it all accomplished in under hour and a half. We'll see. We'll see.

1:11:09

No telling, telling, good. Well,

Collin  1:11:13

Love you. Love

1:11:14

you too. Bye, bye.