Brandon got rain. Collin went to a ballgame. We critique skylines.

We’ve got rain!!!
Definitely brown
Ironic clapping
8-bit noise
Retro gaming
It’s a worse offender
Cross country running
Brandon’s haiku

Anticipation
Nervous energy waiting to be released
Bang

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00:04

Collin, welcome to Oh brother, a podcast where we try to figure it all out with your hosts, Brandon and Collin on this week's show, eight bit noise,

00:18

ahoy.

00:20

Ahoy. What's

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going on? Well, you know, not the lot. The

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weather calmed down a little bit now. Doesn't appear to be

00:30

violently lightning outside, so that's good.

00:35

Yeah, it's been a few it's been interesting weather week. Yeah, it's a good thing that we didn't record yesterday, because I don't know if you'd been able to hear me talking over the sound of the continuous thunder that was happening outside my window. Oh no,

00:53

oh no, yeah. Big storms through. Yeah, big ones. And it like we lost power for a while last night, like,

01:03

it's like, I don't know, 1130

01:08

maybe somewhere on there, we lost some power. That was cool. It was only off for like, an hour

01:18

and a half. Perhaps it was on sometime around one

01:24

still was like, Yeah, nobody liked that, that's for sure. No.

01:32

01:33

that was a eventful Right? Like, doesn't rain for months and then just like, nope, all the rain. It was just like, oh, by the way, flood warning.

01:43

I saw that report. What did they

01:49

instead rain for the last two months in our area?

01:53

Point five, five inches, right? So little overhead sounds about right. Rain on Thursday.

02:01

Point five, three,

02:04

all in one day,

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size of the storm and the horrible conditions in the area prior to it.

02:17

Yeah, it's pretty nuts. So you know, we'll see, but the

02:23

see how this week goes, right? It's too rainy and stuff, so I don't know. Other

02:32

than that, how have you been Oh,

02:35

man, we had another week that we barreled through. We started, started off the week by celebrating Miss cinnamon gotcha day. Oh yeah. Monday was our gotcha day for the little, little puppy. That was, wow, fine. It was kind of like, oh my gosh, yeah. That has been a year. Things happened. So we, she got a extra large pop cup that we made for and don't think anybody saying anything, but it was good. So, you know, it's fine. And

03:17

quite a lot that going on. And we, we also joined a new a new Chamber of Commerce. So I've been, Oh, of course, of course, and everything, people have already got a chamber of the commerce, right? And to the Commerce chamber, you know? Okay, so

03:39

there's a town south of Springfield, uh, Nixa, um,

03:46

yeah, Branson, nope. Uh, surely not Reed spring right? Like, I'm surely not, though.

03:53

And I attended this is, this is insane. I attended

03:58

the, like, ribbon cutting for their brand new, like, indoor athletic arena, yeah, okay, they have an indoor athletic arena that the city or just like the school, okay, yeah, because Nixon school is insane, like, yeah, yep, it's insane. Um, I remember when we went to a there was a band competition there, and we went into their brand new

04:23

band room, yeah, right. And was like, holy moly, yeah. I think we did

04:30

one of those, like,

04:33

like, the concert band contest thing, Rico, when you play your score. But I think we also did a drum line thing there. Maybe, I don't remember. Maybe I think I did. I wasn't

04:47

Anyway, yes, yes, they have a new it's indoor. It's an entire football field inside.

04:55

And it was, it cost $18 million

05:00

Is, yeah, I did, Jason, please. It's insane. What the heck I was telling dad this? And he goes, Wait, what is it? I said, it's an enclosed football place field with like one end lightly dedicated to, like a classroom and meeting space. Is it the coach's office? He said. He said, Do you know how much the entire Rogersville High School cost when they built it brand new? The entire probably, roughly, I'm gonna go with roughly $18 million $15 million

05:37

Oh, steel. You got an entire high end. Yeah, look at that. I mean, they did build it 20 years ago. They did

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so, like, there is that, that's, that's what you that's what inflation gets you. That was all you could get, is a lousy indoor practice facility, yeah, yeah. And tell you could tell that. So during the speech, they were trying hard to mention everything else other than football, everything else, yeah, we all know, right, right, like we know, did they? But they were so excited Brandon that this week, the the science classes for a MP were running between the yard lines to test their heart rates, right? They couldn't do that before. Did you know? No, you couldn't do that on the sidewalk. They didn't know how far to run because now they've got hash marks, right? Yeah, because there's nobody at Nixa High School has a tape measure.

06:41

You know, I was just not possible. Oh, but our seventh and eighth, I think the seventh grade class was doing that this week outside, because I could see them out my window. And, you know what? She had a tape measure. No, no and a parking lot squares like that afford that. What are you talking about tape measures. Well, everyone gets a tape measure. Yeah, man, that would only cost, like, $18 like, what do you Nice? Yeah, and I forget the other stuff, of, like, like, you know, band and some other thing. And I was, I want to be like, and football, like, we all know it's football, right? And like, we also know, hey, like, this

07:28

is also weird, like it's, I mean, it's not weird because Nixa is a massive school district. It is, like, super rich. And like, to be fair, they are a very good school district, right? Like they are, like, ranked very highly in, like, educational things, like, throughout the state in Missouri, like they're continually, like, top Missouri schools, like Nixa is one of them, right? But also,

07:55

awkwardly,

07:57

not really a great football team ever. So, like, I don't really know what the plan here. Is

08:04

this a field of dream situation, right? Like, is this a yeah, if you build it, they will come like, type deal or like, turns out they were, the only thing they were missing all these gears was an indoor practice, an indoor practice facility year round. Yeah, that, yeah, that's what it is. They can't run enough. Like, I don't

08:24

really know. I think is it just a thing that, like, once you get to a certain size of school, you're like, well, built everything else. So, like,

08:34

I don't guess indoor football field it is, like, I don't,

08:38

you know what I mean? Like, what?

08:42

Wait, I don't see, I don't know, because, like, what like, how do you make the jump to like, we need that like we that's, that's, that's a good question. Like, now, now could be

08:56

because it is Nixa.

08:58

This could also be fueled by just like, donation, right? Like, you gotta think about that. What name did they put on the building? No, no side note. There's no person's name on this. But is there a plaque with many people's names nearby? Sure. But also, they did take this to voters. Oh, doll voters. What the heck voters? Yeah, yeah. I forgot to mention also his bond issue. But, okay, this was bond. Well, sometimes what schools can do, like, if there is a bond in existence, right, they can just be like, Hey, can we just

09:37

keep it rolling? Extend? Is that cool? Yeah? Like, we just keep going. Like, yeah, if it's gonna, you know, if it's close to expire, or whatever they can, like, I don't know what the bond issue for refinancing is, but you can, like, do that kind of thing just like, hey, can we just, like, keep it going? Yeah, I don't you know what I mean. So sometimes they do that too. Like, it might not be, like, a new one financing on this, but yes, yeah, I'm.

10:00

Standing in this facility that cost $18 million next to their really, really, really nice football stadium. Like, really nice, yeah, $18 million nice to know, is it? I think it's, it might be. It might be. It's probably like, $25 million nice. But I, I came around the corner and, like, I kept my mouth kind of hung open a little bit, like, what really makes you miss, like, rickety wooden bleachers. Yeah, remember the old Rogersville bleachers, the brown wood ones? I mean, I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be maroon, but it was brown. Let's be real with the chain link on the back. Oh yeah, makes

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it means, makes it means. Makes you nostalgic for tons of splinters, yeah? It makes me nostalgic for a football stadium where the bleachers cost like 10s of dollars, yes. Instead, this is just like a bed, yeah? Those old seats, the bench, benches for everyone, yeah? This is as God intended, yeah, high school sports, that is what was intended. You don't need. Oh, yes. I was standing in this facility next to this other facility,

11:10

and he started with the amp classes running to check their heart rates. And I was like,

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no, no, we all see this, right? Like everybody's seeing, yeah, I just, I had to laugh whenever he said that, because then we, like, walked out into the field, and they had their own school, has their own, like, media team. So there was the media drone to take pictures of everything, and clearly all this stuff. But I'm just like, I Okay, I'll grab my free cookie, and I'm gonna leave after I shake some

11:49

like, Oh my gosh. So that was that was eye opening. But I ultimately the other part that they do with this as well is, since they are such a massive school and school district, they it sounds like I was reading between the lines for things that they were really excited that they could do with this. It sounds like more and more they have, like the main school building, and then they are building out all of these little like outposts and outbuildings and stuff that aren't connected to the main school and school room, and those are the buildings that they're trying to open up to the community to use. Yeah, that is true. So the community isn't using the main school room, right? There's, so they can use it for other stuff. Yeah, yeah, well, there's. And you should think about it like, if somebody's like, yeah, I want to host. I want to do a class on knitting. Previously, the school would be kind, and they'd open up the entire school, and then there, you know, people would have access to all the internal buildings. And that's true. Now they can be like, okay, cool. You can. You can use this one room in this one building that you're that you'll only have access to, like everything else is locked down.

13:03

You can see it from that perspective of it also adds them, like more security to the building and more, you know, things like that, and can multiple uses across their campus. But that's true. The other secret ingredient here is that the Missouri State Government, is like, been like, just like, very close to passing the like. What is it called the like,

13:34

the thing where you can just go to whatever school you want to, yeah, the school choice thing, right? The gerrymandered Republican controlled state of Missouri is like, very close to passing school choice. Like they're every year they're just like, barely don't do it. And so facilities are a big thing that schools are focusing on, just kind of like in general, because that will get that they want to use that as, like a draw, like a college does, where they're, like, look at our stuff. Sure. Don't you want to come here for the stuff? That's what that's the other

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reason here. This is the other secret ingredient that makes sense.

14:14

Yeah. So they also do that. I know, like, a lot of schools are talking about that, like, oh, like, why would people want to go here? Like, I don't know why Nixon would have that problem. But, like, problem, but like,

14:24

schools are spending money on things like softball field renovations or stuff like that. To be like, Oh, we might need to convince people that they want to come here, so we have to make it look nicer.

14:38

Ta, da.

14:42

That's true of their Yeah, not that everybody should be entitled to a free and equal education. No, no, no, that's that's silly.

14:51

Get access to an indoor sports arena. Yeah, right,

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yes. Oh.

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15:01

that was, that was my like, I don't know, like, I like going to these events because of that kind of stuff. Of like, Huh? I never would have thought about it in this way. Or I see, you know, things working in the background around, oh, yeah, thanks. Anyway. It was kind of neat to

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see that, to see what you can buy with $18 million yeah, just in case, just in case you ever need.

15:29

I ever

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just run across as bear. They flew school board members up to Wisconsin to tour other facilities before Wisconsin? Yeah, I don't, I mean, I guess if there is a state that's going to have indoor facilities, it's going to be a state with, like, horrendous winter conditions. So, you know, Okay, never mind. Wisconsin kind of makes sense. I guess, like there's,

15:56

I take it back that that would make a lot more sense than

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some other things. Yep, so that's something that they did, like, and that was another thing I'm like, oh, right, the school board members just like, travel around the country looking at different options and different things. That's weird. That's weird. That's weird to me. That is weird. That's too that's like, What the heck are you doing? Like, what are you what's happening right

16:31

now? We're just

16:34

had her first volleyball game. Oh, yes, all right, yes, this was nice. This was nice. And I was at a much smaller town to our west, and we, you know, so our town is big enough at least, that there are, like, several different, if just fifth grade only themes, yeah, okay. They're not quite big enough, so they have a fifth and sixth grade, yeah, right, got you which you could tell you're like, Oh, okay. Like, yeah, these girls like, Man, what a difference a grade makes. Wow, it does. It really does. Yeah, it's kind of astounding. Sometimes, like, Wow, you're a foot taller. What's going on?

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So,

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and they had, you know, it was a big deal. And the coaches were very serious, very, very serious coaches, of course, because it's their team, right? And I think it's also part of, like their school, that's, it's not, oh, it's not, like an independence, yeah. So our parks thing, like, we're kind of slide in just like, shuck it in, Jive in. Our coach, this is her first be doing it. She has no idea what she's doing. It's fine. Like, again, just volleying the ball, man, let's go right, right off the bat. They go, Oh, hey, we need a line judge. Oh, oh. And they like, so they put forward somebody's like, right? They do it, and they look, obviously to the similar small number of people our side, and everybody immediately has found the most interesting by their feet. Like they're just like, wow, oh yeah, literally, wood grain on these bleachers. Like, I can't believe the intricate nature of which these are fastened together. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, okay, fine. I raised my hand. I'm like, I'll do it. They're like, all right, Larry guy, let's go

18:29

fast forward, by the way, by the way, since you mentioned that I'm leaving the complex, and some guy puts his hand on my shoulder and goes, Hey, has anyone called you Larry Bird?

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Like, not today. And I said,

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not today.

18:46

Oh, really. And so I told him, the very first time that I ever was called Larry Bird. I was standing at a crosswalk trying to get off of campus at Missouri State, and I'm standing there minding my own business, sunny day, and some guy just drives by with his window wrote down, and yells, hey, Larry, and keeps driving. The

19:09

first time that that happened, and I remember just standing there like, what, what? What

19:16

did somebody call me? Who's Larry? What's going on for a long time?

19:21

That's a yes. So the guy thought that that was a funny story. And he was like, it's on campus, on a basketball court, har har, har har. And I was like, oh yeah. Really great.

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But the so

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the the game was, was fine. They have the kind of coaches that the coaches will preemptively call the ball before the girls have a chance to, like, comprehend what's going on.

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Oh, like, what Come on. So, like, it kind of removes, kind of let them do the thing. Yeah, right, like, of the individual, or even just like the team, like, do I go for the ball? Or.

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Not like you've got to make that decision as a player. And I understand people are listening to this, and I'm going Collin fifth grade, get over it. Yeah, I get it. But like, these are skills that, like you you develop. Like, this is a skill you can't learn it if, yeah, trajectory of a ball to know whether it's in or not, to whether you're going to dive for it and whether you're going to make a, you know, a mess of it by punting the ball further out of bounds, or whether you can actually manage to get it back in if it's if you think it's playable. Like, these are skills that girls will develop and while they're playing and but these coaches would just yell like, obnoxiously laugh like at the girl, like, Yo, you know, I don't know, Tina, whoever you are, like, if we would serve it before it was even like over the net, the coaches, who obviously have played a lot of volleyball, would just yell, whether it was out or, Oh, what the heck, completely robbing Yeah.

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And so I was a line judge back there trying to go in and out. I was really to the point where I just want to start yelling in when they didn't yell out. I just if they didn't yell out, I just want to screen in just to start like, Oh, I was so annoyed at this. I was like, No, bro, is it? I saw it right here, right there. Like, just, you know, because that's what it was. It was just like this reactive, like,

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screech from across the court, oh my goodness.

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And then, of course, they're the kind of team that's like, at every changeover, it's like, let's go in,

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like that. Like, every, oh yeah, every person comes.

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That's a volleyball thing, right? They do. I know

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they have things that they say, not like all the time. You just have to, like an ace or like

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a point. Sometimes they do that like little thingy. I don't know, but all the time is that's you gotta, you gotta calm down guys,

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like they'd Clap loudly when we would mess up, and, you know, because they would get a point, you know, like,

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and so I was the one that was like, I'm a drum major. I was a drum major. I can Clap loudly, well, on cue so and I can count. I can clap. I can get the four really loud. So, like, every time they would mess up

22:34

because the parents were doing it too. Like, parents, it's the most annoying when the kids do it. Like, okay, whatever. But, like,

22:43

the parents are doing it, like, you get Come on, because it was so small, because it was an away game, there was, it was also very apparent our girls weren't getting a lot of clap for so every time that there was something like that, I was the one who was a line coach. Okay, fine. I'm standing in the middle court clapping as loud as I can for a beat or two too long. Like, that's what I was doing a little bit like, oh no. Not No, no, not ironic clapping. No, that's the worst kind no ironic clapping. That was awful. I hate it so much. I yell at the kids all the time. When I do that, I'm like, quick,

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a little bit too long. Yeah, nobody likes that. Everyone stop it. I enjoyed it a lot.

23:31

So it was fun. We ended up winning. And

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so there was much, much rejoicing and clapping.

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And then the guy asked me,

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yeah, not today,

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once, once or twice, you know? Oh, funny. I love it so much.

23:53

Oh, man. And then then

23:57

our control board in our upstairs air conditioner die.

24:03

Oh yes, oh no. At first I was like, oh, is our air conditioner broken? No, I call for cool, and it turns on. The outside unit will turn on, hmm, but no fan is blowing, so let me turn off the air conditioner. I'll just tell the fan. A fan, be a fan.

24:23

And said, No. It was like, Oh no. Well,

24:28

gotta call somebody. I came up, called into our attic, like, yep,

24:33

oh yeah, I called. And the person was like, I can get him over tonight, but it'll be an after hours fee, which is time and a half. I said, No, yeah,

24:43

we'll be fine. And so they were like, Okay, well, they can come in two days, like, oh, well, um, I guess we'll do two days. So they came on Friday in the morning and looked, and they were like, Hmm, controller, uh.

25:00

We can get one in, but we won't be here until Tuesday. It was like,

25:06

so now it has been a week basically since we will not have had air upstairs, air conditioning. Oh, yeah, so I'm very thankful that it's not like, super mega hot.

25:19

Yeah, it's been a little better this week, yeah, but that's been fun. So we've been sleeping with our windows open more nice.

25:28

Yeah, still been hot,

25:34

but yeah. And then we went to, went to St Louis today, and went to a ball game, which was fun, went to the Science Center, which was also fun, nice, yes, had to go Science Center, obviously. And after, out of all the things, all the things that the Science Center and the

25:54

space center being across the road is the thing that my brain, I was just there, you know, the thing with the stuff, yeah, the thing and the planets, whatever, planetarium, planetarium, yes, okay, there we go. I mean, that's also sciencey. So, like, I always think of those two things as being together. I guess I know they're not. But like, my brain does put them together because planetariums are

26:20

sciency. So, like,

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I don't really,

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I don't, I don't know why.

26:28

Like, oh yeah, you know the thing stuff to the planets. Ah, planetarium. We went. We went there. Out of all the things that are in there, guess which part was my kid's favorite of all the things in, oh, I don't even know. I cannot really tell you the last time I've even been there,

26:51

so is unchanged, especially like the basement with like the dinosaurs. Okay, I like the dinosaurs. I'm

26:59

a big no. It's right, when you walk in, it's the it's the big, like, balls are rolling through the metal tracks, and they're up and down and spinning and like, and this, this one's that we stood there probably a good hour, like, an hour we were there for four hours, an hour of that cumulatively, throughout that entire time, every time we'd walk by, we just stand and stop and we'd stare at a new part and just be like, what is happening over here? Because there's so much going on. Yeah, but they all agreed that was their all time favorite thing of that entire thing. I'm like, You know what? Well, all right, amazing. Cool. Is it right in the entrance? Yes, yeah. As a little, as a little anti climactic, like, it's the very first thing you see, and you're like, Oh, well,

27:48

dang it. Like, I don't

27:51

like, Okay, well,

27:54

I guess that's fine. Like, you know, it's cool that you like that, but there's, there's more stuff. Like, you can

28:02

come over here, look at the more stuff, right? Yeah,

28:08

a new section, like, kind of their rotating thing. One of the sections, this is where they put in new things, is, it's all about games. So they have different like, older games, new games, board games. They have games where, oh, like, one of the things that's kind of cool, instead of

28:26

ping pong, table tennis, whatever, like, it's usually flat, they've taken that flat board and wrapped it into a cylinder, and you play through the cylinder so you can play off of, like, the ceiling stuff, too, around you. Oh, that's way cool. Way cool. Yes, that's cool. We're like, hey, what? What does it mean to play this game if we change this parameter? Or, like, the other thing that they change was imagine chess instead of being in front of you. Imagine the chess board was turned on its side and, like, glued to a wall. You played top to bottom or bottom up. Like, does that change? Yeah. So they have things like that. No, they play Fisher random tests.

29:10

Or they have, like, they had the 3d chess sets and they had a 40 chess set thing with you,

29:17

Noah's fair game, all time. Fair game,

29:21

the original Zelda, uh, yeah, there we go. He played that for so long, died. He was maddening. Actually, what that game is, it's so maddening, don't even so so many times it was just hear that eight minute noise, dude, it

29:38

was red. And then you around,

29:45

sorry, sorry, I don't get copyrighted here. It's fine,

29:49

perfect rendition of the but the question is, the coolest part about this is that they had these, the game stations where you were.

30:00

Sure, okay, I'm gonna try and send this to you in real time. This means, okay, my favorite. But what they had was they had generations of the game. So they had

30:12

an Atari, yeah, they had the original Nintendo. Then they had a Sega Genesis, Sega Master System. Let's go. And then they had a the original PlayStation, they were all in a row, and what they had it was the game play in front of you. But then they had an example of that unit, like, blown apart so that you could see, oh, cool, like, the internals and stuff of it right in front of you, like that wasn't running the game that was doing behind the scenes, probably in an emulator, if we're being perfectly honest. But you had the original. You had a controller that was like, it let me know if that comes through or not. It was kind of neat how they had this display. Yes, I'm trying to parse what I was looking at in this picture. It was very cool looking. Yeah, so yeah, you played. You sat on a little bench, and then there's a TV screen above you, but like, right at desk level was the thing with, like, the motherboard removed and, like, plastic panels and stuff. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it was, that was neat. Okay, I can see the inside of the Nintendo here, yeah, yeah. It's also crazy how, like, not many parts there are there nothing There's right, the

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old cartridge one is, like, it's just this board. Like, there's no fancy that's all I got. It's air cooled. What are you talking about? Why would you active cooling system in this Oh, it's Sonic the Hedgehog. Oh yes. They're playing Sonic the Hedgehog on the Genesis. And then for the PlayStation, they were playing Crash Bandicoot. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then they had, on the other side, the Nintendo 64 and they were doing Donkey Kong car things.

31:53

So they had like eight, eight players that set up that you could play, and they all had their own individual team, yeah, several different games were like that. He loved this section of this. It's very interesting.

32:06

I was okay, so I was reading about retro games this week,

32:11

weirdly, and it was talking about

32:15

how the

32:18

if you play them today,

32:20

right, they don't look like you remember, like your brain remembers them looking better, right? You know, because, like, when you when you play them a lot now, they're like, super pixelated, and it's like, it looks kind of messy, right? Sure. And part of the reason that is because

32:36

the modern TV monitors are too good, oh, sure. And the old,

32:43

whatever, the old TV technology, right? The C Yeah, the CRT technology was factored into the game design. And so if you play those old, like low bit games on the CRT monitor, it looks better

33:01

because they're not as high resolution, right, right? So they're like, the little sprites, the little character sprites, right? Like, if you play them now on, like, a modern like, led, or whatever TV, like, they look really messy and weird, and you're kind of will go like, Man, I

33:15

remember when I was a kid, this used to look awesome. That's because it did look awesome, because the CRT monitors like

33:25

blended it out together, because they were also pixelated how it was rendered. Yeah, yeah. So how it how it was projected on the monitor was like

33:34

an important part of how the game was actually designed. So like the rounded edges that you remember they existed in the original format, shown on the CRT monitors. And I was like, Oh,

33:50

that's pretty cool. Like these,

33:57

yeah, it's like, when people complain, like it's because their TV is too good.

34:03

The modern emulators will try and, like, upscale, yeah. They try to, like, fuzz that bit map or whatever match what what it is. So they're doubling and tripling whatever's on there. But it's, yeah, it's not the same, right? The CRT is critical to this.

34:24

I've also heard that that's why. Well, one of the reasons why a lot of the

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like single person, like the shooter kind of games where you're like in whatever, like, they like the CRT, because there's no lag in the processing. Oh, yeah, right, yeah, you actually get better reaction times too. Because, again, there's no

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because now modern day monitors and TVs are just computers. Yes, pretty much things that are going on inside.

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Yeah, it's pretty nuts. Like people want those sometimes, like certain people kind of like.

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Not like everybody, but like, there are some people who are like, No, I want that. Why?

35:07

Interesting? But if you're gonna do that, if you do, like, retro game, things like, it's way better, because that's what it's designed to be used for, you know? So it's like to make sense that it would be so good on there, because that's what it was designed, how it was designed to be used. So, like,

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even, like, PS One games, right? Like, that's, you know, that's, uh, that was just, those were just yesterday, definitely not a long time ago, and,

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right? I remember buying my PS One Best Buy,

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just yesterday. Yeah, it was just yesterday.

35:45

Holy cow. And

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he sat in raptured for this, and we actually ended up coming back to the game room so he could play again after we had kind of done through walking you loop around, yeah, yep, yep, move around, came back to the game room.

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Then today we would do the ball game. And that was fun, nice. Yeah, it was a day game, so we got to stay and watch till the end the whole thing. Always good. Day games are nice. Yes, was it super was it super hot today? It wasn't too bad. Wait, like, 84

36:17

Okay, with like, definitely could be worse. So in the city, breeze out of the south. Yeah, there wasn't a breeze that you could feel, and we were in the shade, thankfully. Okay, good, that's good, yeah. So that was nice. Very nice. Does get a little Bakey in there? Like? Because

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I don't think I've been to the new stadium.

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No, I don't think so. I mean, I'm not a baseball person in general, like I went to watch some Cardinals games with some people in high school once or twice.

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But that means it's the old stadium that I've been to. I don't believe I've been to the new one ever.

37:02

Huh? Think that's true. That sounds accurate.

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It was just trying to, like, timeline, this out in my mind a little bit like, yeah, no, I'm old. Okay. Got it nailed. It done.

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Let me go sit down for a little bit. One of my favorite things to do while sitting in the stadium, because this is my, my second time there. Wow.

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I'm a regular season ticket holder over here. Yeah, I know

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is to look at the skyline and try and identify all of the buildings that you can see from this from the perch in there, yeah, and I discovered that clearly a riveting game today. If this is the very,

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very thing you know who they played today. Collin, do you even

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know what's happening? Okay, from there, you can see that I'm trying to, I'm trying to pull it up now, because it's so it's so insane, I'm going to send you this link, because you'll be like, There's no way. Like, yeah, this is, this is way, and you beg, no way. Well, I mean, as a person who is not just like, hyper familiar with the

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skyline of St Louis, you know, I might, I might believe this. I don't know. No, you're gonna, you're gonna get to, I'm gonna send you a link to the Thomas F Eagleton, United Eagleton, well, United States Courthouse,

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okay, this is the largest courthouse in the United States, oh, oh, yes, yes, because this was, it's Tartarian in design, don't you know, don't you right? Yeah, this obviously, okay, you know this, you know, yeah. Like, I do know this image. I did not take this. I did not take this photo, but this is one of the most like, I

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this is an insane looking building. Like it is. It is so

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oppressive looking. Like, I don't know whether I like the look of this building or not. Like, yeah, yeah. It's kind of weird, right? Like, it's, yeah.

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I don't really don't really,

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yeah, I Yes, I don't, I know what you mean. Like, it's,

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it's weird that it, it has, like the dome, but like, the rest of it is, like, pretty, just right Angley, and it's like, so tall that it it feels

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like out of proportion, kind of somehow, right, like the little step thing at the bottom, it doesn't feel wide enough,

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you know, yeah, I mean, like, it feels like this building should be wider. Like.

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It does. It feels like something is wrong with this. Like, I don't know. I mean, probably it's because a lot of it is buried by the mud flood, right, obviously. So, like, you can't see the rest of the architecture that was designed by the Tartarian. Oh, people, right, clearly, clearly, that is the problem. I had forgotten that. Yeah, yeah, how could you forget? How could you forget that? I don't

40:35

much forgetting. It's 557, feet tall, yeah? Because then the other thing that is insane is classical, tripartite. This is what I'm looking for. Is

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this picture that I'm sending you now. So the one that I sent you before is the Eagleton, whatever, whatever. Yes, largest one, this one that I'm sending to you is the 22nd Judicial Circuit Court of Missouri. This thing is also the proportions are also wrong here the columns at the top. Why do you have like? Well, it's like it, I mean it so I think it's supposed to look like

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the Parthenon on the hill, yes, right. That's kind of, I think it's supposed to be

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like the hilltop in Athens right where the rest of the bill, it's this is, this is also looks like two buildings stuck together, right? Because the bottom is just like

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a rectangle, yeah, right. And then the top, we do have some

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the roof is weird. The roof doesn't match the rest of the architecture either. But I guess, because it's like a deco style building, right? Because the top of this building, this is very art decoy, right?

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But then mixed with the like, Corinthian, not Corinthian. These like Ionic columns here,

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around all the top

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but so that's like, very Greek. But then the rest of it's just like, meh. Like, I don't know some of the front door, like, that's weird. It's like, Haha, here's some more columns. But these are Doric columns, and that doesn't that's confusing also, but

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Right? This is, this is the part of the oh brother podcast where we, like use our very rudimentary architectural knowledge too,

42:42

through this, yeah, we need that. There's a lady on YouTube that, like, it does, like all kinds of crazy architect stuff. When you get collab with her, do a much

42:53

more interesting conversation about these buildings. I mean, yeah, right? Others, great.

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These make me feel weird, and you be, yeah. I mean, it does I feel, I feel I understand, yeah, what you're talking about, because the proportions seem wrong and also right. Also, I don't know if I grab a picture from where we were, because we sat kind of, like, higher up this time, which is fine, because it's like, whatever, but like, Oh, I didn't, I did not get a picture that way, because we're sitting high up. And then you look to your left, and you see the column and like you said, like, it looks like I'm eye level with a building at ground level. When all Yeah, you're like, I'm I'm 18 stories up, I turn to my left and I see just like the part or whatever, you know, whatever, like over here with columns, like, I should be able to just walk straight into it, but then you realize I'm hundreds of feet above the ground. It's so weird why it is lifted up and above it, yeah, it's, it's, it's weird that is, I think it's supposed to be, I think

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it's supposed to be about

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the Parthenon, like I think that. I mean, maybe it's not supposed to be, but that's what I'm getting. That's the vibe I'm getting. Yeah, your screenshot. I did take a video of kind of like sweeping left and right. And in this picture, I think you'll, in this picture, you'll be able to see both of these buildings. You'll be able to see the 20 the first one, the Eagleton

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to the left, and then the 22nd Judicial Circuit Court to the right. And they just look so out of place

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in the skyline, I don't I, even though the 22nd judicial one has been there since 1930 and

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the Eagleton one has been there for a while too.

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This is what I did during the ball game. Was like, that's all right. This is the lady I was talking about, by the way. This.

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Oh, bang, you go. Oh, yeah, you can't see him right there. Yeah. See how they just look weird. I don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see Yeah. Proportionally, these buildings are kind of strange, very weird additions, especially this. I feel like the this Civic courts one is worse.

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I feel, I feel like it's a worse offender. Yeah, because it does feel like this one, it looks like two buildings stuck together, yeah, possibly three. Because, again, this roof is confusing me, and I don't really understand what. It's almost like

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pagoda E but like, it's not, but like, you

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know what I mean, like, because it's so pyramidal, it's like smashed on the top, but it's like an art deco pagoda roof. That's what's weird about that. Yeah,

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yeah. I feel like, yeah. I feel like maybe it would be slightly less weird

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if the very top wasn't a pyramid. Yeah, if there's a pyramid and there is, like, some sort of, I don't know, not a Sphinx, but there's two somethings sitting on top of the roof of this thing, well, they're eagles, eagles. Well, in the corners, these are eagles. No, yeah, so corners are eagles, but on the very tip top of the roof, oh yeah, it's just like a big face. And that's a very Art Deco, yeah thing, right? Like to have like a big, giant

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metal face on there, like, I don't know, so it's weird giving Bioshock, I guess, a little bit, but that's

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it's weird to have these two buildings with an eyesight of each other. The again, the 22nd circuit court was built in the 1930s the Eagleton, I just found out, was completed in the year 2000

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right? Well completed. Or do they like renovate it? Or like fix it? It says the courthouse has 29 stories tall. Covers almost a million square feet, fifth tallest habitable building in Missouri, largest courthouse in the United States. And

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the construction of the building was completed in 2000

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architects. The buildings were Hellmuth, Obata and Casa bomb medium Incorporated. It cost, look man, this is a steal. It cost $186

47:22

million to build. Oh man, that's like, that's nothing, yes, how many field houses can you give for that? I see, hold on,

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oh man, you get 12 indoor football facilities for that

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bargain.

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It's just, again, this is the most building I can kind of live with, the 22nd secret court, but the Eagleton, something about it, just, I have a visceral response. This building, I don't know. Okay, so the channel I mentioned earlier, when I said it's the one lady, it's that Tommy Lee lady, and get her, get her on the phone here figure out, why do I hate looking into this building? Who's gonna ask a max expert here? Why does this it makes me uncomfortable? Why does looking at this building make me ill, like why

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I very Why Does it burn my eyes? Kind of interaction for a building? And yet, I've now gone to two ball games. I've stared at this in photo after photo after photo, and I'm just like, No, no. I'm not I'm not having listeners. Let us know if we're off base here, and I need you to look at some pictures of this building. We need your input.

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Is it bad, or is it just us? Do we have I

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don't think with the Civic courts when I think we're totally right on this one, like I feel like

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it's just not it okay, but I we needed to know. We need your thoughts. Need your opinions here. What is wrong here? We need experts to weigh in,

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maybe other people that are offended by ugly buildings. I don't

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know, yeah, and that'd be a wonderful thing. Like, hey, does this make you You like this one? No, you like this one? No, be like a Rorschach test, but just with buildings, right? Like,

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oh. And how does this one make you feel? Like,

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turns out Collin only likes art deco building. That's, that's what I mean, yeah. But like, good ones, right? Like, here's some brutalist architecture. Here's some

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something by Frank Lloyd Wright. Probably here's a

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decent Louis buildings. Oh, no, make it stop.

49:43

We did. I will say that part of our architectural journey, I did not get to make it to the state fair pavilion over in Forest Park. But we Okay, did not make it there because we ran out of time, however, to go see this. Listen it to you. I.

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Oh, but wait, there's more. It

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is, oh, this, it's called the jewel box. It was built in 1936 and it's an all glass thing. It's definitely looks at part of the Botanical Garden. Ah, okay, this, this should be part of the Botanical Gardens. This is very greenhouse, yes. Now, if you zoom in on that photo, you will see that a few of the panes are broken, right? Well, I mean, yeah, but that's how it works, right? When you know you have glass buildings, sometimes you know what they say, Collin people in glass buildings or glass houses sink ships, they do. So everybody to do, yeah, it's fact, yes.

50:44

Also, like, I like this door. What I like the entrance? Oh, it is a weird juxtaposition between, like, the big, like, stone edifice and just like the whole rest of building be made of glass. But I think because it's all right angles, you see, and it's proportional, yes, yeah, it all works together. Yeah, nicely. Oh, here's a bit of a better picture of the of the weird, like, yes, the stone arch, yeah. But look at them, Oh, yeah. But look how proportional. This is. Just columns, yeah. They're reminiscent of dork columns, oh, but, like, yes. Notice how the sides step out evenly and then go down at like, appropriate, like, yeah, this building is just so proportional and nice looking,

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you know,

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as opposed to the other mess of a building,

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yes,

51:36

yeah, I'm gonna put my thinking cap, but yeah, so this is this building fell in love with. I was like, Yes, this is doing it right? Weird, courthouses things, and I know, like, I know courthouses are supposed to communicate, like, power and scale and like to there's they're supposed to be oppressive, like they are, like, I mean, right, okay. But like, should they be? Could you think, should you be thinking of the justice system as

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oppressive?

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I want to go with no here, like, I want to say that's a negative. And I was like, this is true. And I think that's also because a lot of the courthouses that, like I love and like I find are beautiful. Are, like, the classical courthouses from, like, the old ones, like, from the 1800s like, oh no. These are just beautiful. These are very nice looking. This, like weird, like post modern, like blight, like, it's just, man, it just, I can see this, this, this building. If this is not if this building is not used, if 1984 is ever remade, and they do not use shots of this building,

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they will have lost that. They will missed the point, because that building is what that's about, right? Like, that's what that is. Like, tall, menacing, always there. Like, makes you feel weird to look at like that. That's what it is.

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Yeah, I don't know if there's enough that's not quite brutalist enough for that, though I feel like it's not. There's not enough cement, right? I don't have cement in there. Well, maybe they'll cover in in post. They'll cover up some of the glass. Okay, maybe, yeah, other floor. Beat windows. Oh, okay, maybe that'll help, but that's fine.

53:26

Okay, we got so we're on the game, which is fun. Stop looking at that picture. There we go. Nice, yeah, so just put it down. Collin, turn the phone over. It can't hurt you. Look away. It's not here. Thomas, can't, yeah, can't hurt you. All right.

53:45

Do I need to send you a picture of, like,

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Stockholm or something to, like, make you feel better? Like, I don't know, I have some What's What do I got here, here, here, I'm gonna send you a picture of a Danish train station, Yeah?

54:00

That'd be great. Literally, right across the street from this is, is the old courthouse, right? Sits kind of by the arch that gives you that class. Oh yeah, the old courthouse is nice. That just like, yes. Oh, see, look, that's a train station too. That's a train station.

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That's the train station in Denmark.

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Great.

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More of that.

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This.

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So I'll just look at these pictures now, because the old courthouse. Oh, this is even more missing. Sorry. This

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is also Denmark, just to rub it down. Take that. Yeah,

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see, yes, this is what I'm talking about. Look at that. And then, Old Courthouse, yes, yes. People, huge dome, yeah, lots of calls. Look at that picture I just sent you it. Put the juxta.

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Poses the old one versus the one. Oh no, oh no, oh no, looming in the ground. Yeah, like that. Yeah, see bad, yeah, that's weird. Yeah, totally, yeah. That's worse. It's like peeking out of the bushes at you, like looking weird.

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But here the other pic. Okay, so the awkward, the juxtapose, that juxtapose the old courthouse to the picture I sent you. That's the second one, the green roof building. That's Frederick's church. Yeah, in in Copenhagen, Copenhagen, sorry, sorry, that's

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Frederick's church building. There you go. It's the same, but like that one just older, yeah, yeah, there's that abilities,

55:49

competition, yeah, get them. Come on, guys.

55:55

So anyway, so that was our

55:59

architectural musings at the St Louis Cardinals.

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This was me, just like, like trying desperately to watch the game, but every now and then, just like my eyes being like, slightly lifted up into the left to stairs, like no building, and then, like looking back down, and then, like looking up and then looking back down. Do

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see

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all I

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did three hours

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baseball game. Sorry, I was looking at something just flashed across my screen of football.

56:36

It's fine. Oh my goodness. So yeah, that was, that was our trip. And then we drove back in the rain, and we're all here. Um,

56:44

nice now and ready for the next week. And I'm traveling again this week. So is it this week? It is this week? Oh, no, now, uh, this little behind the curtain stuff real quick. Uh, wait, I will plan to do the recording on this coming Thursday. Okay, I've got to take my stuff anyway, so we'll just

57:07

live on location. We'll see, we'll see, potentially, yeah,

57:14

subject to chain, it's all good. No worries. Yeah, you have staying at the I don't know, like my plan. I wanted to, this is so ridiculous. So I'm flying into I'm doing the exact same thing that we did for our Texas trip, where we flew into Houston and then took a 40 minute plane ride from Houston into San Antonio. Okay, I'm doing the exact same thing where I'm flying into Greensboro and then Greensboro I'm flying into something which is like some other place, hour away. I genuinely don't remember the name of this thing, but right, it's not Raleigh. It's not Raleigh. I can tell you that they go definitely not Raleigh.

57:56

Do we know any other North Carolina town? I

58:01

need to check my I don't know Charlotte, Charlotte, probably not. Charlotte. Is it Charlotte? Is it? I don't know. I'm just looking at a map of North Carolina. Oh, no, I am flying into Charlotte. Okay, so I'm flying okay, then from Charlotte if fly into Greensboro and I Okay, yes, greens Yes, yes. And that flight is

58:23

49 minutes long. I was gonna say, is it like, seven seconds long? It's like, really short. Okay, well, you know.

58:32

And so I'm staying, I'm getting in kind of late that day, but it's fine. And I'm gonna stay at some place. I don't know why. Don't ask me why I don't, it's not important. I've always wanted to

58:45

say, This better be good. This lead up is killer. Like, come on. You gotta I just feel people don't let me down. Now, don't fumble with the goal. I just, I just think, I just take it the airport hotel. Just wanted to stay well, all right, I just go, Yeah, I don't know. So we're gonna do our thing. Have you looked at the building architecturally before you made this decision? Like, are you going to be able to stomach the building? It is this, I can't, yeah. Did you like, look and be like, Oh no, I can't.

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Too bad.

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Oh, it's so oppressive. So I feel oppressed, so

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bad. I don't, I doubt there's any that kind of, I don't think. I don't. You never know that oppressive kind of.

59:36

You never know. I don't know. I don't know. I can't, I can't on this map, I cannot locate the airport in, uh, Greensboro, so I don't know exactly. I'm looking at shots of this place's skyline. There's four total buildings. It's not gonna bad. I mean, that's true, but you never know, right? You may come across like,

59:58

no, there's one true.

1:00:00

Really bad in there. Oh no,

1:00:04

I'll make this the show arts people can play along. Here's great, the collage of bad buildings I'm gonna be flying into. I don't know.

1:00:14

I mean, I have so much short that's okay. Put some links in there. Oh yeah, one of these things is not like together.

1:00:25

What in the doctor, evil is happening in skyline?

1:00:29

What on earth?

1:00:33

What? Oh, my days.

1:00:38

I don't know what's happening on the right side of this photo, I don't either it's weird, real fast, yeah, that's awkward. Okay,

1:00:51

what is this? What I

1:00:56

got?

1:00:58

I don't,

1:01:01

yeah, I don't know either. Oh man,

1:01:08

great, okay, well, yeah, I guess we'll

1:01:12

be Yeah,

1:01:15

that's fun. That's real fun and exciting. Cool.

1:01:25

On, no, surely, it's not a courthouse. Surely, surely it's got to be something like,

1:01:31

actually useful, right? Surely it's just like, I don't know, or just like a building that has stuff in it, right? Like, just like office building, you know, how they have the you know, just like, oh, there's just things here now, like,

1:01:47

so I don't know, I don't know, I don't know,

1:01:54

but I guess you'll find out, and you'll tell us, I will

1:01:58

All about the excitement and wonder it is whatever that strange building is.

1:02:10

Yeah, no, yes, that's was that's been us. It's been good, and we've been

1:02:18

going so trying to get caught up and pull more things ahead for this coming week. Um, as best. And

1:02:28

so because of, because, when I'm traveling for these things, it's like, have a lot of downtime, especially for this one where they're set, oh yeah, when you're the game, see, man. And I'm also, like, giving a talk, like, I'm like, oh, double duty, yeah, yeah, that I haven't

1:02:45

talk

1:02:48

maybe.

1:02:50

Okay, you read a story, a little bit of this. Hey, there you go. Yeah, be fine, everything,

1:03:00

yup, ah. Nice, nice, wow, somewhere, I have a haiku to end this on here. Ah, yes, if you're ready for that, there we go. Ah, all right. So before I guess, I should tell the other thing I did this week, briefly. Before that, we did go to the cross country meet, okay, right? This week, right? So

1:03:24

I had some kids running cross country, and so the in middle school, they started in middle school now, so we went to the cross country meet, right? Good times. It's always fun. I mean, I don't know it's not fun for me. I don't have sense for them, necessarily, but it's just at the city park, so it's kind of cool that you can just like, you know, just show up and whatever. And so it's real accessible to the public. So you can watch people. A lot of people come to watch, right? So that's good, I think, for the kids that they have, they can have people there because there's a lot of parking, and then you can just

1:04:00

like, wander over and be like, whoo, and then you leave again. So it's nice, yeah, I think that. I think it's nice when you have a community that's around, not just those in the school thing, right? Like, I'm sure, yeah, school oriented people, but like, at least, well, I mean, yeah, they're all like, parents, but you can, like, it's there are a lot of parents that come, or just like, other school people that come, right? So, like, so that's good, um, so it's at the City Park, right? But again, the car, it's like, it's from what I understand, like one of the girls that was running, we also had to go, because it's her senior year, right? And so we've gone to, like, a bunch of her meets and stuff. And so we had to go. She was like, you're coming, right? Yes.

1:04:45

So,

1:04:48

like, it's a very, very hilly course, very hilly. It's a little rough, like, and so they run out, they start in the park, and then they actually.

1:05:00

Run out across, like the golf course area that's next to the park. So they actually also get to use the they could shut down the golf course all golf cart, disc, disc, golf golf cart guy is all upset. Probably can't use his golf cart, right? But he's locked out.

1:05:17

He blinked, yeah, there's like, no.

1:05:21

So they run, like, way back on the golf course, and it's just super hilly, like, the whole thing is very undulating terrain, right? And then when they get to the end, the finish line is basically at the top of, like, the biggest hill in the park. Oh, that's mean, it's like, very steep. It's like, not very long, but it's like, it's not a very like, steep, like, it's not a very long hill, but it's like a short, steep monster, just like, right up the grass, boom. Like, here it is, sure, and then then you run, like, another 40 or 50 yards after that to the finish line.

1:05:57

But like, it is, you have to the way the course is set out. Just to get the last enough length, you have to run by the hill,

1:06:06

and then you run down and you loop around some trees, and then you come back towards it. So you have

1:06:12

to, like, run by and look at, which is a little like, it's like a power move, right?

1:06:19

Like, man, that's rude. Why would you do that? Speaking of looming over you during something? Mike, yeah, it was crazy. It's most kind of stuck for the maybe I'm reading too much. Maybe they don't care. But, like, it is kind of weird that you have to run by it. You're like, Oh, dang it, there it is. And then you come back

1:06:37

and you run up. But

1:06:40

our kids did pretty good. They did really good job. So I had one girl, like, this is her first year she she got, like, 16th, like, what,

1:06:48

what?

1:06:50

Cow. I'm pretty good. I have, like, a bunch. There's like 80 some kids actually, wow, boom.

1:06:57

So anyway, that is an important context for the rest of this, haiku. Okay, there we go.

1:07:05

Anticipation,

1:07:08

nervous energy, waiting to be released.

1:07:16

Bang, nice, the mass start. You know, they give this big master things Ta da,

1:07:24

and off

1:07:26

they go. And they go, that's perfect.

1:07:33

Very

1:07:35

cool. I'm glad do that. I like that, the coup,

1:07:42

whatever.

1:07:46

1:07:47

ugly buildings. Maybe who knows, who knows,

1:07:51

or maybe in flight, snacks we don't know we'll see, right? No one knows what will happen. Collin, literally, a tagline, okay, I don't know.

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Least of us, least, which is us? I know right?

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I get people ask you guys like, plan out what you're gonna do.

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No,

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sometimes, obviously, not often, only

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when we read,

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only read, or we make Top Five lists, which

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you've done in a while, we need to find something to make a list

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about. Okay, we will see if I can be inspired by see if you can think of any list things, top five, ugliest buildings in dessert. No.

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Good things, good things, oh yeah, oh yeah, positive, positivity, positivity, right. Here we go. There we go. So

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we'll work on that, yeah, please realize

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we will that that blooming over us, oh

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hill or a courthouse or a courthouse, next time,

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oppressively breathing down your neck, literally and figuratively, happy feelings.

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All right. Love you too. Bye. Bye. You.